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Game 69 Open Thread: June 13 2008

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Philadelphia Phillies @ St. Louis Cardinals


Kendrick Wellemeyer
5-2, 4.87 7-1, 2.93

the cards keep lucking out as far as opposition rotations go --- they missed peavy (due to injury) down in san diego; they didn't  have to face harang or volzquez in cincinnati, nor zambrano when the cubs visited; they missed kazmir when the rays were in town, and they only caught ben sheets once in 3 series vs the brewers. and during this series vs the phillies, they don't have to face cole hamels. cool.

altho the phillies play in an extreme hitter's park, their lineup does not have a sharp home/road split. their pitchers do --- but it's skewed toward their home park, where they allow half a run per game less than they do on the road. go figure. tonight's pitcher is a case in point --- he's 3-1, 3.86 in philadelphia but 2-1, 5.80 on the road. he has displayed fine control at home (1.5 walks per 9) but poor control on the road (about 4.5 bb/9) . . . . .

if my memory serves, the last cardinal starting pitcher to open a season with an 8-1 record was matt morris in 2005.

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number 99!

I, personally, am excited to see the So man play 2nite. Hope he gets in the game. I appreciated all Taguchi did for us.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Jun 13, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not an autograph guy

But sunday I’m bringing a batting glove he threw into the crowd after winning the series, just in case he’ll be signing.

by Merry CRasmus on Jun 13, 2008 7:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i have his autograph,

from when he was with the memphis redbirds—he signed in english and a japanese character…

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on Jun 13, 2008 8:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lineups per STLtoday.com

PHI

Rollins SS
Victorino CF
Utley 2B
Howard 1B
Burrell LF
Jenkins RF
Feliz 3B
Ruiz C
Kendrick P

STL

Schumaker LF
Kennedy 2B
Ludwick RF
Ankiel CF
Glaus 3B
Duncan 1B
Molina C
Wellemeyer P
Izturis SS

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No Mather or Ryan

Sigh. Otherwise not that much to complain about.

by DriverZn on Jun 13, 2008 7:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kennedy in the 2 hole qualfies as "much" to me

.152 /.211/.152 since May 8th. That SLG is not a typo. .363 OPS. Three Six Three.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 13, 2008 7:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That was where I thought Ryan should be.

Also I think Mather should be starting for Skip swaping Ryan to leadoff.

by DriverZn on Jun 13, 2008 7:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Taguchi-San! Ganbatte kudasai! Kennedy-San -DAF ASAP

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 13, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Springfield's game tonight

was rained out, so both Clement and Mulder will be pitching at AA tomorrow at some point in the double header.

by liam on Jun 13, 2008 7:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's hope Wellemeyer

isn’t rusty. I’ve become a big fan of his.

by mikeonthecards on Jun 13, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so has timmy k on ESPN..

nominated him for his All-Star team, along w. Ludwick.

by longhornscardinals on Jun 13, 2008 7:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm really pissed off the Big FOX picked up tomorrow's game

there’s no way now i’ll be able to watch it. all of ohio gets the f’ing red sox vs reds.

go out & get a win tonight boys. here’s hoping Welley’s elbow is 100%

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 13, 2008 7:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hypothetically:

what do y’all think the cardinals would have done had they not hit paydirt with Pujols? would they have traded for a big named slugger, or shelled out the bucks during free-agency? would they probably have been content with the same teams, just with Jimmy in the 3-hole?

by longhornscardinals on Jun 13, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thats an awesome question

probably no WS in 06 , or 04 unless we would have made a big move

by from First to Third on Jun 13, 2008 8:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Mulder trade would never have happend.

Then Wainwright, Haren, Carp lead the team to victory in the 1990s braves mold.

by DriverZn on Jun 13, 2008 8:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Drew trade probably never happens either

There’s just a million variables between 2001-2006 that would have changed it’s nearly impossible to assess any of that. I wouldn’t imagine we’d think we were in the position to deal for Rolen either.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 13, 2008 8:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dont take the fun out of it!

i know it’s impossible to speculate, but its fun nonetheless. its just amazing how lucky we got with pujols. very tom brady-esque.

by longhornscardinals on Jun 13, 2008 8:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tom Brady-esque

If Tom Brady played for the Northeastern Michigan CC Lake People

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 8:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha fair enough...

i was only taking the comparison as far as the draft, but point taken.

by longhornscardinals on Jun 13, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We won the central in 2000 with no Pujols

I think we had a pretty solid core built by that point. Maybe they try and pick up someone else off the FA list or maybe make an impact trade that we wouldn’t have thought of with Pujols.

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 8:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2000 also had McGwire with a beastly year in his limited playing time

Vina with a career year in the leadoff spot, Tatis had a good year but was in full “Buffet-like Symptoms” decline, even Ray Lankford chipped in with a nice line. That was a rapidly aging offense on the verge of becoming irrelevant. It’s tough to overstate the impact Pujols has had on this franchise.

By 2002 you have Tino Martinez at first being below average, Edmonds being a monster in center, Vina fell off, Polanco was still bad, Renteria a +...and that’s it for the offense basically. That’s a bad team with basically just Morris stabilizing the staff and we have no need to go get a Woody Williams so that doesn’t happen. I’d say by 2002 we’d have had to go into full rebuilding mode because that’d have been a mediocre team without a future.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 13, 2008 8:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not trading for rolen

probably means our MI stayed edgar/placido ;) And we’d have had the payroll to sign Burnett.

I think the Drew trade happens; he was really hated and the braves massively overpaid.

"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton

by SleepyCA on Jun 13, 2008 8:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

probably wouldn't have traded Barton

so we’d have had Haren in the rotation in ‘06…

"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton

by SleepyCA on Jun 13, 2008 8:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone remember Tino?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 13, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rolen...

just went deep against the Cubbies, back to back with Matt Stairs.

by longhornscardinals on Jun 13, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good

Help out your old club, Scotty!

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 8:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I still love me

some scotty rolen

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jun 13, 2008 8:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's unfortunate that this series this weekend

will be buried under all the pomp and circumstance that is Interleague play. This is a huge series for this point in the season! Both teams are 40-28. But instead they’ll be talking about how the Pirates have never been to Baltimore and it’s a big deal.

Note: I did zero research on that last sentence. I don’t know if they’ve ever met in the Series or in IL play. Feel free to correct the hell out of me. I still stand by the basic sentiment of the statement.

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

pomp and circumstance

those your keywords for crap too?

I don’t like interleague play. I dont like it at all

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jun 13, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I actually like interleague (don't throw stones please!)

I know I’m one of the few, but my point is that the token NL-NL matchup always gets buried under the IL matchups. I agree with longhorns above, though…don’t like the AL; stupid DH!

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 8:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Give the Buccos some credit

They’re whipping up on the Browns right now.

by liam on Jun 13, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i like interleague

but it is a good post by Mr redbird and throwing in somegraduation humor as well

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jun 13, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nice Game day 95 mph on fastball. .

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 13, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

evening all

colonel looks good real early here.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 13, 2008 8:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ah shit

Don’t you want to play for us, Chase?

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gotta hand it to Uttley.

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 13, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

seriously?

a second basemen with 22 homers? in june?

what is that like?

by longhornscardinals on Jun 13, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

eh

he’s kinda good too.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 13, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn, Welley!

Come on now!

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

KusoX 2!

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 13, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

in the bleachers

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 13, 2008 8:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no way

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Jun 13, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

back to back to back

are you even trying wellemeyer?

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jun 13, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

eh

he’s kinda good X3

by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 13, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Someone move the screen back out for BP

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 13, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fuck this shit

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jun 13, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Never seen

Cardinals fans as excited about a visitor’s home run as the one that Howard hit.

From the fan reaction, I assumed it was foul.

Let’s go back-to-back-to-back now, Skip, Kennedy, and Lud.

by liam on Jun 13, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kennedy?

that’s almost as bad as larue.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 13, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well...

he is from St. Louis, after all.

Start Ludwick

by DiscoJer on Jun 13, 2008 8:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kennedy got a hold of that one

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 13, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Attaboy, Adam

Get this comeback started!

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hit and run

almost kept us out of the DP there.

Should have.

by liam on Jun 13, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why not just let

Ludwick pick his pitches and not force him to swing. He was having a good AB

by poohrat on Jun 13, 2008 8:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was a 3-2 count

He doesn’t need to swing at just anything.

Sending the runner on that count isn’t a controversial move by any stretch.

by liam on Jun 13, 2008 8:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Im not trying to make a controversy out of it

that was more a gut reaction to the play. It also is frustarating when we have speed on base we don’t just steal a base to keep preasure on the pitcher/catcher. But we will always hit and run.

by poohrat on Jun 13, 2008 8:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fortunately we have Adam Kennedy running the bases

I can’t control my hatred for him anymore. He’s the worst regular in the big leagues.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 13, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not sure I'd classify him a a "regular" anymore

I think even Tony knows he’s the last option. He can’t hit, and he only hits lefty. At least Miles and Izturis can switch hit (maybe not in Iz2’s case).

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 8:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

*Outside of Tony Pena Jr

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 13, 2008 8:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, this might be...

a long night.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Jun 13, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ugh

Got a bad feeling this could get ugly in a hurry

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

welley is getting bashed early.

franklins might be comin early and often tonight.

by stlcardinalsfang on Jun 13, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

im so glad i

put welly back in my fantasy rotation

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jun 13, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK

Get the pen ready

Anyone else feel like this is that scene in Rookie of the Year when he falls and tweaks his elbow and can’t throw the heat anymore? Maybe Welley tweaked his elbow back into sucking or something like that.

Maybe they just rushed him back.

Maybe he’s just having a bad night.

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 8:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd call it rust

He’s got velo up in the mid-nineties and his change looks good.

Just leaving pitches up, from what I’m seeing.

Needs to settle down in a hurry so he can keep us in this one. (And keep his pitch count down enough to go 5 or 6)

by liam on Jun 13, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

He seems to have lost his new-found ability to throw strikes regularly though. Hope it’s just a one-start thing!

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 8:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe your thinking too much

he hit 97 a few times

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jun 13, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I wouldn't assume it

He’s hitting 95 regularly and touching 96

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 8:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

now your post above is

even more confusing haha

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jun 13, 2008 8:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I didn't mean it's like Rookie of the Year

Because he loses his velocity. It wasn’t an exact analogy, just saying that when Rowengartner hurt his elbow at the end, he couldn’t throw heat. Maybe with Welley, when he tweaked his elbow, he couldn’t throw strikes?

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ah got ya now

it sounded worriesome when i read it… when i helped coach little league we always yelled at out pitcher reknbocker roenhoser whatever how the coach messed up his name and would say throw em the fat stinking cheese…almost made one of our pitchers balk he was laughing so hard

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jun 13, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

looks like 6-4

not counting tonight.

"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton

by SleepyCA on Jun 13, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

for the hell of it

Sunday 6-4
Monday 3-4
Tuesday 6-5
Wednesday 8-2
Thursday 4-6
Friday 6-4
Saturday 7-3

by adiueordie on Jun 13, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no

S-A-T-U-R-D-A-Y Night…the bay city rollers

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jun 13, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thx

yeah wednesday
boo monday

by poohrat on Jun 13, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Victorino

Tough to double up.

by liam on Jun 13, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Clever

Attempted the 1-4-5 DP.

by liam on Jun 13, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thats one way to take em out

tag em in the face

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jun 13, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

meanwhile, in toronto

AJ burnett is over 100 pitches in the 5th inning. Argh.

"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton

by SleepyCA on Jun 13, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

gameday video highlights

are all about the ex-cards. edmonds robs eckstein, rolen homers, edmonds rbi double… i still can’t get used to seeing these guys in other uniforms, though i like the toronto throwbacks.

by adiueordie on Jun 13, 2008 8:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Utley

Dude ain’t clutch.

(/sarcasm)

by liam on Jun 13, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

when Howard one MVP

Utley got grossly overlooked

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jun 13, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i mean how he sets him up

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jun 13, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

come on santa

we need a present

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by dangpenguins on Jun 13, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well

Rick down by 3 and you swing away at a 3-0 pitch…..not real great.

by KYCards on Jun 13, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Count was 3-1

And a fastball, cock-high.

For what it’s worth.

by liam on Jun 13, 2008 8:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this year

we’ve put the ball in play on 3-0 8 times. Eight. With an OPS just shy of 2.5.

If anything, we don’t swing at nearly enough 3-0 pitches…

"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton

by SleepyCA on Jun 13, 2008 8:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You cant be serious, can you….? Geez!

by cardschinmusic on Jun 14, 2008 4:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ooopps, the above directed at Jack White, thanks for the voice of reason from SleepyCA in response. This team needs to jack some 3-0 pitches into the bleacher seats.

by cardschinmusic on Jun 14, 2008 4:41 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

duncan

does something

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Jun 13, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and he attacked the first pitch

this is a good thing.

"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton

by SleepyCA on Jun 13, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who knew?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jun 13, 2008 8:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kennedys up?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Jun 13, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not quite

Just the man who has as many GIDP as XBH

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 8:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, good to see that he made kendrick work

wellemeyer, also.

"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton

by SleepyCA on Jun 13, 2008 8:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

3 straight first-pitch swings

I wonder if they’ve caught something Kendrick’s doing?

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 8:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

man.

i was so lookin forward to this game allday, just to go to the crapper in the first inning.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Jun 13, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey! We're still in it.

I wouldn’t say down by four is in the crapper. Maybe in the bathroom, but not the crapper.

by mikeonthecards on Jun 13, 2008 8:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good bye Dan & Rick

hello Harry Callus

totally forgot he was still calling philly games. if i’m going to watch the Cards lose, i might as well get some joy out of it.

great K Welley

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 13, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interesting factoid they just showed

Last Cardinal pitcher to give up back-to-back-to-back HR was Matt Morris in 2005.

That could be two of 2005 Morris’ notables that Wellemeyer ties tonight.

by liam on Jun 13, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

6 out of the 16 batters Welley's faced

Have gotten to 3-ball counts. Another two put the ball in play on a 2-0 count. He needs to stop getting behind batters.

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looked good

Through 4 pitches there.

More, please.

by liam on Jun 13, 2008 9:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah he did

But since then he’s thrown all balls and one ground-rule double

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 9:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SKIPPY!

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 13, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

An understatement

“Not a good swing from Kennedy”

by TNTinCO on Jun 13, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually for Kennedy it was rather better than (his) average

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HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 13, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Attaboy Skip

Welley needs to throw up some zeroes and let us chip away…

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 9:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

come on Welley

bare down & end this inning right here dude

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 13, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

AARRRRGGGHHHHH

Get that ball DOWN!!!!!!

"It ain't braggin' if you can do it." -- Dizzy Dean

by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jun 13, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tony can't leave in now can he?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 13, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

why’s he only throwing fastballs???

by sbentley on Jun 13, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

M Shannon

really doesn’t like the idea of replays.

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

by Dave Barry on Jun 13, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, not Dave. . . TLR!!!!!

"It ain't braggin' if you can do it." -- Dizzy Dean

by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jun 13, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What do you mean. . .he's EARNED it.

What, earned a GS?????

"It ain't braggin' if you can do it." -- Dizzy Dean

by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jun 13, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Dammit

Get Utley there and you have a big mo shifter.

by liam on Jun 13, 2008 9:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

game over

shouldn’t have left him in Tony.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 13, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

mlb.tv mosaic

anyone used this? i just downloaded it and its pretty awesome if you’re really into fantasy baseball. six games at once!

by adiueordie on Jun 13, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

About 4-5 batters too late. . .

"It ain't braggin' if you can do it." -- Dizzy Dean

by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jun 13, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OK Todd

We know it’s your first game back. All will be forgiven if you come back after this start pitching like you were before the elbow problems.

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DFA Adam Kennedy!
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oooph..

welley’s ERA went from really niiiiiiiiice to nice.

by longhornscardinals on Jun 13, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the Cards just do not play well

after they have to travel. in this day & age, there’s really no excuse for it. it’s a 45min flight from the Natti. they should have gotten plenty of sleep last night & be fully rested.

but no. instead it looks like they were all out drinking till 4pm this afternoon. and the scoreboard proves my point.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 13, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Has anyone else posted about Carpenter having elbow discomfort

the likelihood of him coming back this year is now at about 10%

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jun 13, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

perfect**

where did you hear this news?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 13, 2008 9:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Linky?

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 13, 2008 9:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Where did you hear about this?

There was mention of a minor setback a week and a half ago that he bounced back from. This something new?

by liam on Jun 13, 2008 9:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bernie was talking about it

says from what he is hearing “it’s not good”

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jun 13, 2008 9:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ass Crepe

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 13, 2008 9:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kennedy Kennedy

The 2nd Kennedy works because he’s dead meat.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 13, 2008 9:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Corksucking Cantaloupe

sorry- my StL Catholic upbringing won’t allow me use “cocksucker” and cantaloupe together…

going to be one of those nights.

I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck

by bukowski on Jun 13, 2008 9:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hey mo

while you are at it, how about a couple of decent left handed relief pitchers? may be a spot for mulder that doesn’t alter the rotation after all

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jun 13, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

7 runs?

pshhhhh. i never lose faith in the 2008 edition of the cardinals.

by longhornscardinals on Jun 13, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't think it's gonna happen tonight

It was tough enough against the Nats

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bad call on that walk

This is getting hideous.

How cold can Kendrick possibly get during this long, loong, looong inning.

I’m listening to the rest on the radio and getting work done.

by liam on Jun 13, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

half way to 20

this if freaking pathetic

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 13, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

in retrospect

you deserve the blame for those 10 other runs.

by enoscountry on Jun 13, 2008 11:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Quick, is there ANY chance of rain???

"It ain't braggin' if you can do it." -- Dizzy Dean

by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jun 13, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Insert Ankiel pitching joke

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by joker24 on Jun 13, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

rumor has it

scott downs is a free agent this year. cross fingers

Looks like I picked the wrong week to quit sniffing glue.

by Dave Barry on Jun 13, 2008 9:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Villone's pitching even worse than Wellemeyer was!

Hopefully they cool off tomorrow and Sunday. And we get a good SP performance.

I’m not watching this anymore. Good night y’all.

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i had no idea today was Friday the 13th

of course Carp would need to go back under the knife & the pitching staff would crap the bed.

8 more to 20

wheeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeeee

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 13, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if she's left handed

I’ll settle for Rowengartner’s mom

by random on Jun 13, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone know the record for the longest inning pitched by an Italian?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 13, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

might have well activate Mildew

tonight & see what he’s got

he can’t do any worse can he?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 13, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

To be an insensitive dick

That would get us out of 60 million…

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 13, 2008 9:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Somewhere in the back of Busch Stadium pythagoras is screaming

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 13, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nobody on that field can feel more frustrated

than Yadi. . .

he puts the glove down here and catches the ball up there

he puts the glove outside and catches the ball inside

"It ain't braggin' if you can do it." -- Dizzy Dean

by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jun 13, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he probably tired as hell too

from squating for 30 straight minutes

by poohrat on Jun 13, 2008 9:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My knees are hurting in sympathy

"It ain't braggin' if you can do it." -- Dizzy Dean

by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jun 13, 2008 9:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

villone

doesnt look like a major league pitcher this is awful

by huts04 on Jun 13, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I object to him staying out there......

the guy has nothing.

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on Jun 13, 2008 9:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't

it’s one of those “You’re the guy who’s going to bend over and take it” nights. Might as well rag his arm and save others.

I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck

by bukowski on Jun 13, 2008 9:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

man, it's either HR or nothing with howard

he had no business swinging at that

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 13, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so

which pitcher gets called up tomorrow?

by adiueordie on Jun 13, 2008 9:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well at least the Reds beat Boston

I can’t stand the Red Sox so I guess I can let this be my good news for the night.

by KYCards on Jun 13, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

NL wins a good thing minus the Cubs

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 13, 2008 9:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, Pujols is saying he wants to get out there at the end of two weeks

I am trying to look for the positives here boys. Who am I kidding I am so bipolar right now but
we are gonna win the next two games of this series and Carp is going to be fine and Wainwright is going to come back this season and we are gonna win the whole damn thing.
Thats what I want to happen anyway

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jun 13, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree

but I am glad he is sooo enthusiastic about the injury

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jun 13, 2008 9:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And dammit if I have anything to say

it is gonna happen.
Hell why not come back and win this game. might as freaking well do that too.
GO CARDs!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

They say I look like yadier molina

by ANDYAK47 on Jun 13, 2008 9:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow, is it possible the Phillies have forgotten

how to play defense in that long wait?

"It ain't braggin' if you can do it." -- Dizzy Dean

by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jun 13, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is there news about Carp? I missed it. .

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 13, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"Soreness". . . whatever THAT means.

"It ain't braggin' if you can do it." -- Dizzy Dean

by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jun 13, 2008 9:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Per Bernie: elbow discomfort

“Doesn’t sound good” from what he hears.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 13, 2008 9:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Has Bernie been wrong before?

btw, saw him on FNS MW tonight. Guy doesn’t look well…

I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck

by bukowski on Jun 13, 2008 9:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He has indeed

But at this point, on matters regarding any health issues with the Cardinals I think pessimism is realism.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 13, 2008 9:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bernie said the team will make “an announcement” after the game…

by adiueordie on Jun 13, 2008 9:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good day for it

no one will be watching…

"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton

by SleepyCA on Jun 13, 2008 9:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if carp complained today

there is likely no way they really could know whether its going to be really bad or not already

by huts04 on Jun 13, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So, um, yeah

Hey, at least Rasmus homered tonight.

by mikedallas45 on Jun 13, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hmm.

Just got in. This game looks like it has sucked ass so far. Poor Colonel.

by Evilfrog on Jun 13, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chirp....chirp....chirp....

I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck

by bukowski on Jun 13, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Kennedy just stands up there

it looks like he’s golfing, trying to pick what club he’s going to use between swings.

Really, really, really don’t like him.

I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck

by bukowski on Jun 13, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On that note: this just in, Tiger Woods is good

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 13, 2008 10:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cubs actually lost

one . . .

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 13, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We need to start a pool as to how long

it will take for one of the announcers to remark that
Mark Worrell is NOT related to Todd Worrell. . .

tonight, 2 minutes 32 seconds.

"It ain't braggin' if you can do it." -- Dizzy Dean

by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jun 13, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Add it to the drinking game

Waterfall till they mention it.

"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA

by joker24 on Jun 13, 2008 10:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

funny

i’m talking to my dad on the phone, and he just asked “hey, is this worrell guy related to…”

"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton

by SleepyCA on Jun 13, 2008 10:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I did. . .

but I put it down to the alcohol.

"It ain't braggin' if you can do it." -- Dizzy Dean

by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jun 13, 2008 10:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Standing "O" for So

"It ain't braggin' if you can do it." -- Dizzy Dean

by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jun 13, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

suddenly the "Why" behind "TLR won't give worrell a chance"

becomes clear.

"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton

by SleepyCA on Jun 13, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

standing O for SO?

with the Cards down this much?

guess that’s why you are the best fans in baseball

3 more to 20

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 13, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I lay the 2006 World Series at So's feet

"It ain't braggin' if you can do it." -- Dizzy Dean

by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jun 13, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wonder how So and Wagner get along?

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 13, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

28 more like that we'll be right back in the game. . . .drinks on me on that happenstance. .

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 13, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Airfare, too????

"It ain't braggin' if you can do it." -- Dizzy Dean

by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jun 13, 2008 10:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

absollutely . . all the way to Bangkok - I'm moving there in two weeks. .

An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.

HL Mencken

by akaitori on Jun 13, 2008 10:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SWEET. . .

C’mon Redbirds!

"It ain't braggin' if you can do it." -- Dizzy Dean

by '54 Cardinal Fan on Jun 13, 2008 10:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

paying for the hotel too?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jun 13, 2008 11:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well who is ready

for a 15 run inning

Yadi is my hero

by Big Phil on Jun 13, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sad thing is

we would still be losing

Yadi is my hero

by Big Phil on Jun 13, 2008 10:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

harshing my mellow

Was still thinking about Taguchi against the Mets in 2006…

by random on Jun 13, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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