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Last week I suggested that the Cardinals look at acquiring Brian Roberts as the only really viable upgrade at 2B.  A lot of people brought up Dan Uggla as an alternative but I don't think the Marlins are sellers right now.  One name that I overlooked, and who is almost certainly available, is Ray Durham.  He's hitting .302/.385/.420 in his age 36 year.  He had a down year last year in which he suffered some injuries and hit into some bad luck.  He's hitting more line drives this year and his walk rate has trended upward as his ISO has gone down (a common career path for aging power hitters).  I don't expect Durham to continue with a .385 OBP moving forward but something along the line of .280/.350/.400 seems eminently reasonable going forward.

Brian Sabean is one of the worst GMs around and given Durham's age, a package of prospects wouldn't be hard to assemble at all.  Mark Hamilton/Cody Hearther and some minor league reliever would probably be enough to pry Durham free.  The most notable downside to this is that Durham's defense has been on the decline for several years and appears to be continuing that trend.  It's possible that once his defense is accounted for he's no better than Miles, Kennedy or Ryan would be at 2nd.  I'd personally prefer him over Miles or Kennedy because he offers some semblance of power but that may not be a statistically sound evaluation.

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Wellemeyer is set to start tonight's game against the Phillies.  When I last checked in, I had noted that he was throwing a significantly greater number of his pitches for strikes.   400 pitches later, he's raised his strike% from 63.4% to 65%.  Pretty incredible.  The changeup is getting used more (maybe we're facing a greater # of lefties -- dunno) so that his pitch selection isn't quite as extreme as it was.  Hopefully, the arm problem isn't a long term issue.

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A little over a month ago , I made some predictions about 6 different people (or groups of people) that I wanted to follow up on.

The first was Ryan Franklin who continues to be a source of disagreement.  He's seen his ERA rise about a half point over the last month, mainly due to allowing some HRs.  But there's still a significant difference between his peripherals and his ERA.  His FIP is over a run higher and his BABIP is due to climb a bit more unless he starts to generate more groundballs.  He continues to make me uneasy in the closer's role and I'm just not sold on him as more than a medium leverage kind of reliever.

Kyle Lohse suffered greatly from me noting that his ERA wasn't what we should expect moving forward.  Much as with Franklin, his flyballs starting going into stands and Lohse ERA starting rising rapidly.  The good news is that he's posting the best FIP of his career despite having a career low in K/9.  Most of that is a result of fewer HRs than in previous years -- typically, this is when I would furiously type that he can't sustain that, which he can't.  He is, however, becoming a much more severe groundball pitcher which will help reduce the number of HRs.  Taking a stab in the dark, I think he's exchanged some changeups for sinkers and that is what has created the above average groundball rates.

I also mentioned that the Cardinals hadn't suffered many injuries.  Thankfully, we can stick the red baron with the blame for Pujols injury since his post on player's we'd miss was more recent than mine.  (Watch your head as I throw you under the bus, RB; wouldn't want you to hurt yourself.)

Some words of encouragement were offered on Troy Glaus, who hit his 8th HR last night and 5th HR in June.  Expect his OPS to continue to rise as his HR/FB% closes in around career norms.

Ryan Ludwick may not be hitting 40% of his balls for line drives anymore (he's down to a measly 30%) but one out of every 4 flyballs off his bat leaves the park.  That's a remarkably hight number.  To reiterate, Ludwick's numbers are real in the sense that he hasn't been particularly lucky or unlucky but that's not to say we should expect him to be a 1.000+ OPS player for the rest of the year.  (He raised his OPS 40pts from the time of my first post to last night's 1.077.)

I wish I had some explanation of what's wrong with Chris Duncan.  His BABIP all looks like career norms or better.  His batting approach seems to have gotten better in fact.  Looking at his swing% on Fangraphs, he's actually swinging at fewer pitches outside the zone.  When he does swing at a pitch outside the zone, he's making contact MORE often.  He still swings at the same percentage of pitches but would seem to have done a better job of waiting for his pitch.  In any case, he obviously didn't fare as well as I expected him too, accented by a trip to Memphis. 

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As the Cardinals play the Phillies, I'll be watching Chase Utley who is having a beast of a year.  Outside of Utley and Burrell, the Phillies lineup has been good but not great.  Can you imagine having Utley as our 2nd baseman -- that's like getting Pujols type production from the middle of your infield.

TGIF Cardinal Nation!

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Az, I hope

red baron wasn’t wearing his favorite Cards tee when you threw him under the bus – tire tracks can be a bear to get out in the wash. J/K :) He has taken some heat for that post already.

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 13, 2008 8:35 AM EDT   0 recs

Oh, Chase Utley. I think he's the best player in the National League right now.

In last night’s game, Jamie Moyer (!) had a no hitter going into the 6th. It was broken up by Scott Olson-just barely. Utley tried to fly vertically to get to a ball several feet over his head, and it glanced off of his glove. He damn near made this incredible play-expected to, seemed disappointed that he didn’t…....He’s just great all around.

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on Jun 13, 2008 8:46 AM EDT   0 recs

Pujols (when healthy) is still better imo

but Utleys value, relative to his position, is greater than Pujols.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jun 13, 2008 10:06 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Utley is damn good and all

but he is no Pujols. Playing in that bandbox doesn’t hurt him either. He would still be good not playing half of his games there, but he wouldn’t be this good

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jun 13, 2008 4:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Encouraging outing for Jo-el last night

If he, the Colonel, and Lohse can keep taking the ball every 5th day until Wainwright gets back then we still have a shot.

by mikedallas45 on Jun 13, 2008 9:07 AM EDT   0 recs

Sabean

FJM did work on a rather humorous article a few weeks ago that posited that Sabean was a superior GM to Billy Beane. Yes, that Billy Beane. I think they could have just posted that article and not even bothered with it, b/c that premise is so incredibly absurd. The guy built a team around 150-year olds, and not particularly good ones either. And we used to complain about the LaRussa/Jocketty regime…at least they brought in people who weren’t yet considered fossils!

Anyway, I think Durham would be a respectable fit. His defense wouldn’t be great, obviously, but its not as if Kennedy and Miles are lighting the world on fire with the leather. He’d certainly be a better offensive force than either of them.

"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.

by redbirdnation8206 on Jun 13, 2008 9:08 AM EDT   0 recs

Ah, but Kennedy IS lighting the world on fire with his leather.

He’s rated one of the best 2b in the league, defensively.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jun 13, 2008 9:23 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe he mentioned that yesterday

...during his meeting with TLR about playing time.

Very juicy stuff here:

La Russa started Aaron Miles at second base for the second straight game Thursday after Brendan Ryan played there Tuesday. La Russa said Kennedy would be in tonight’s starting lineup against Phillies righthander Kyle Kendrick but saw no reason to scrutinize the timeshare.

“Miles is getting shorted more than anyone. So he’s played back-to-back,” La Russa said. “I think Adam’s looked like he has for most of his career, but I’m going to play all four guys.”

La Russa considers shortstop Cesar Izturis in the four-man mix since he is increasingly inclined to spot Ryan there... [emphasis added]

Increasingly inclined to play Ryan at short?

Cesar: “Et tu, Ton-eh?”

by bgh on Jun 13, 2008 9:28 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i think that is good news

i said all along that the should have just gave the job to ryan with the incrediblly weak ss market, save so money

Will somebody please make iz2 bat only right handed please?

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by elirock83 on Jun 13, 2008 12:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Miles getting shorted (pun intended?)

Izturis 60
Miles 49
Kennedy 46
Ryan 35

Or, by innings played:

Izturis 456
Kennedy 322
Miles 280
Ryan 203

Ryan was hurt earlier so his numbers aren’t accurately reflected. A better way would be % of games/innings off the DL but I’m not interested enough to do it. I still wouldn’t say Miles is getting shorted more than anyone, though.

Glad to hear TLR wants to put Ryan in more…

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 1:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

maybe, but

i’d rather pay more for someone with a little more promise down the road, e.g., o-dog or mark ellis.

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Jun 13, 2008 10:30 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The I-Cub Isle

Cardsfan84 posted about the Memphis ownership offering their stadium for the Iowa Cubs to play since flood waters continue to rise across Iowa, and in downtown Des Moines, where the I-Cubs’ stadium sits at the intersection of the Raccoon and Des Moines Rivers. The situation in places like Iowa City, Cedar Rapids, and Waterloo (as well as countless other communities) is catastrophic. Downtown Des Moines is looking more and more precarious, with the Birdland neighborhood being the most-threatened at this point. (I’m going to be sandbagging there a little bit later.)

To update folks on the baseball aspect of this statewide emergency, the Iowa Cubs are stating that they will play all eight of their games in Des Moines, at Principal Park, despite the rising rivers (which are supposed to crest today). Frankly, I don’t know how they are going to manage. Their stadium is fastly becoming an island with the Raccon and Des Moines Rivers forming a moat. Right now, the field is dry, but we Des Moines-area natives need only look back fifteen years for a sobering reminder of the fate that could await the stadium. You can see video from a helicopter of how high the waters have gotten so far this morning here in their video viewer.

The heartening aspect of this set of tragedies is the way that communities have come together, locked arms, and worked to keep one another high and dry. The goodwill has not been restricted to within Iowa’s borders and the offer from the Memphis ownership is deeply appreciated. Right now, however, there are more pressing concerns than baseball. Say a prayer for Iowans today. The rivers are supposed to crest and we’ll need all the help we can get.

by bgh on Jun 13, 2008 9:10 AM EDT   0 recs

Be safe out there, bgh

You (and the rest of Iowa) are in my prayers.

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 13, 2008 9:22 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Good luck!!!

After experiencing the ‘93 floods upstream in Ames I know how hard that can be. My only advice is not to fill the bags too full – any smaller people down the line will greatly thank you.

by birdo rojo on Jun 13, 2008 10:21 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Are You a Fellow Stater?

I just graduate from ISU in May….

New Member of the Skip Schumaker Fan Club

by cyko42 on Jun 13, 2008 12:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yep

Congrats – my graduation was a few years ago though.

by birdo rojo on Jun 13, 2008 12:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I-Cubs postponed their game tonight

I could not believe their decision yesterday to try to play here this weekend. In addition to the water headed toward the ballpark - and it got there this morning, as the photos show - trying to play requires at least some police presence and a diversion of resources, however minimal, that ought to be applied elsewhere. In other parts of the city there are people about to lose their homes this morning, if that has not happened already. The voluntary evacuations in those neighborhoods will soon be mandatory.

It’s much worse in Cedar Rapids. Much worse. On the whole, Des Moines is doing reasonably well considering the incredible amount of water surging through here. Still, it’s quite possible things could get much uglier before it’s over.

The Quad Cities ballpark must have water very close to it, too. Last I looked, they were planning to keep playing there as well. That was a few days ago.

by Youneverknow on Jun 13, 2008 11:22 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

"Good but not great"

Last I heard, Rollins was leading the league in doubles since his return from the DL. I mean, I’m not saing we should give this guy an MVP award or anything silly like that - oh wait - but he’s still a really good player and he’s swinging a good stick.

by mojowo11 on Jun 13, 2008 9:11 AM EDT   0 recs

What I think is wild

is that Howard already has almost 100 Ks. the man is just a K machine.

by sdrone on Jun 13, 2008 9:13 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

My friend and I were discussing this

It was part of a larger conversation about young players signing long-term deals while still under team control. When Prince Fielder came up, my friend stated, “The reason they can’t sign Fielder is because he wants Ryan Howard money when Ryan Howard isn’t even worth Ryan Howard money.”

Ryan Howard’s 2008 line: .204 BA / .306 OBP / .436 SLG / .742 OPS / 15 HR / 45 RBI / $10M Salary

Granted, this is selective, but there is no arguing that Ryan Howard, so far this season, is not a $10M player, unless you value strikeouts as sdrone already pointed out.

by bgh on Jun 13, 2008 9:20 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

sad...

I have Howard, Dunn, and Sexson on a fantasy team—then someone told me the strikeouts category was for PITCHERS…awwwww shucks, thought I was running away with that one…..................

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jun 13, 2008 12:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Et tu, Az?

What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?

by the red baron on Jun 13, 2008 9:13 AM EDT   0 recs

It's ok Baron

What Az doesn’t know is I’m driving the bus. When he throws you out in front I plan on swerving to miss you and hit him. After all the bus might kill you, we’ll just need to put the azruavatar unit back together after I hit him. Can we make him look like a flying saucer, that would be cool.

"Do what you want to the women and children but leave me alone"- George Carlin

by That's a Winner on Jun 13, 2008 11:26 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Roberts

I loved the Roberts idea when it was floated until I saw the initial UZR numbers for 2008. Roberts was among the worst at 2B. Kennedy was among the best.

Who caught my eye was Mark Ellis. He is a free agent after this year and offers a bit more offense than the current 2B on the Cards.

by bdief on Jun 13, 2008 9:42 AM EDT   0 recs

I could get

on board with the Ellis idea.

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 13, 2008 9:49 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ellis reminds to much of Kennedy...

Diminutive 2B from a American League team in CA w/ career average of .270/.280 in his early 30s…

I fear it could end up being Kennedy part II. With that being said I have never really seen him play and he does seem to have a little sock in his bat but I thought Kennedy did too.

I would pass unless you could get him for spare parts and I’ not sure Beane would just give him up. Maybe we could trade a spare OF at the AA or AAA level.

"Why does he keep saying that?"

by Red Blazer on Jun 13, 2008 10:30 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

UZR

Everything I’ve read cautions that you should be even more wary of small sample sizes with fielding metrics than you are with batting metrics. After all, he’s got Duncan among the best in LF so far this year and do we really believe that? Roberts was middle of the pack in 2007 in RZR and 1st in 2006, so unless our scouts think he’s really lost a step compared to last year I wouldn’t be too worried about the defense.

by mikedallas45 on Jun 13, 2008 9:53 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ellis

I forgot to add that Ellis has really nice RZR rankings all the way back to 2005, I could get on board with him.

by mikedallas45 on Jun 13, 2008 9:55 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Typically the confidence level for one year of offensive data

is the same as TWO years of defensive data (or so MGL has stated previously). So the error bars are much larger with defensive metrics—even when you have a full season of data.

by azruavatar on Jun 13, 2008 10:18 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Mark Ellis has been quoted that he would prefer to stay in Oakland.

He may not even file for free agency. Ha, Beane could trade him at the deadline and have him re sign with them in the off season.

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on Jun 13, 2008 10:39 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

B Ryan

I am admittedly not a saber guy, nor would I even know where to look to find certain information. That’s why I rely on you fine people.

Can someone explain the argument against B Ryan? As a sophomoric fan, it seems like his glove has improved and he hits as well, maybe even with more promise, than any other platoon option. What’s his major downfall at the moment?

by mattysha on Jun 13, 2008 9:52 AM EDT   0 recs

Ryan

Compared to last year, his ISO is down and his K rate is up. I prefer him over Miles as the backup 2B/SS but he’s not exactly banging down the door to become an everyday player. What it basically comes down to for me is that we have 4 replacement-level players at 2B and SS right now. They each have their own pluses and minuses, but none of them should really be getting more than 300 ABs a season on a playoff-caliber team.

by mikedallas45 on Jun 13, 2008 10:02 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Umm

McVeteran goodness?

by mikedallas45 on Jun 13, 2008 1:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

his defense

is not too shabby

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 13, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

True

But (from all accounts I’ve seen) his attitude is bad, like he feels entitled or something. He doesn’t hit. Not for average, not for power, for nothing. I just don’t see how he has a place on this team.

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 13, 2008 2:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

I’m part of the Kennedy DFA ASAP crew as well

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 13, 2008 3:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I was just looking that up

and I can’t figure out the argument against him. His OPS is better than any of the other options and his defense appears to be just as good—at least at short. The sample size at 2nd is so small it can’t be reliable but those numbers are considerably worse than Miles and Kennedy. Seems to be a sample size issue as much as anything.

He’s w/o a doubt our best MI option vs. lefties and probably, based on the numbers, should be our everyday SS.

There is one major caveat to all of this: he probably deserves to start based on the fact that we have nobody better. His numbers aren’t outstanding so I’ll not say that he DEFINITELY should be starting over Izturis or Kennedy/Miles (except vs. lefties). He is, as mikedallas says, about replacement level but he appears to be slightly better than any of the other 3 options. If we had even decent middle infielders, he’d be the utility guy.

by houstoncardinal on Jun 13, 2008 10:26 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

He’s the only guy of that bunch that could hit .300/.350/.420 and people wouldn’t be surprised. Not saying that’s going to happen, but none of the other MI could hit for that over a full season at this point. So he should be starting until he’s hitting worse than Miles and Kennedy.

I love the fact that Dan and Al keep bringing up the fact that Miles is “clutch” and that’s why he’s playing. By definition, shouldn’t a “clutch” hitter be the #1 pinch hitter for a ballclub, similar to what Mark Loretta did for years in the NL? If that’s why he’s playing, fellas, then it’s be much better to leave him on the bench as a late substitution.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Jun 13, 2008 12:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah, good point

Miles should be our go-to pinch hitter, since no one else is getting the job done there. he’s experienced enough to be level-headed in those type of situations. I think Ryan is definitely capable of hitting .300, and should be starting… but I’ve been saying that all season.

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 13, 2008 2:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Mitch Harris...

Was told to report to his ship. Oh well. It was fun while it lasted.

by Evilfrog on Jun 13, 2008 10:21 AM EDT   0 recs

May be different after election

He was most likely going to serve 2 years in some form or another (i.e., David Robinson), and it seemed very unlikely that he would get the type of deal the Lions NFL draftee got since he would only be in the minor leagues. Not surprising to see him sent out.

It has been said that this decision is made by the Secretary of Navy who is a Bush appointee. Depending on who wins the election and whether that administration declares us to be at war or not (no comment) this decision could change.

I wish him all the best.

by enoscountry on Jun 13, 2008 10:39 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

"Why does he keep saying that?"

by Red Blazer on Jun 13, 2008 10:51 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

eh

He went to a top rated school on my dime. Im not to upset that the Goverment is asking him to preform his part of the bargin.

I’ll wish him a short and safe trip.

by Evilfrog on Jun 13, 2008 11:09 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

wouldn't the organization have taken this into account when they drafted him?

i mean, the possibility that this would be what ended up happening?

by mattybobo on Jun 13, 2008 11:26 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It was another lottery ticket...

Mo likes to gamble.

"Why does he keep saying that?"

by Red Blazer on Jun 13, 2008 1:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

well, right

i guess that makes sense; every draft is about calculated risks. i just hope nobody is surprised by it, but i’m guessing nobody really is.

by mattybobo on Jun 13, 2008 1:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Mr. Harris

Godspeed Mr. Harris, and thanks for serving our great country!

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on Jun 13, 2008 10:30 AM EDT   0 recs

yeah

hope so… although not sure how much luck that requires…

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 13, 2008 2:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ryan is an unknown commodity at this time

He hasn’t been given the chance to prove his worth or unworth. He has shown some signs of having a flair for getting a hit or making something happen in key spots when he does play..enough that I personally would like to see a little more of him before entering into discussions of trading prospects for a 36 year old 2nd basemen that is currently playing over his head.
The biggest handicap to seeing what level Ryan is capable of reaching and maintaining is the fact that kennedy is still on the Cardinal roster. The first step to solving the MI problem IMO, should be to release Kennedy and go from there.

by ridgesee on Jun 13, 2008 10:33 AM EDT   0 recs

another reason to give him more playing time right now

is to see if he’s a viable MI starter next year

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 13, 2008 2:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I would love to have Ugla but seriously why would FLA give him to us & at what cost..

Roberts would be nice but how about Polanco???

If the Tigers do tear it down(I think they can still make a run) would they move Placido? I would love to have him back home .

Also maybe no Ugla but can we talk to the Rangers about Kinsler? He seems a tick off on Defense but so is Ugla and you can improve defense with a fungoe and an Oquendo.

"Why does he keep saying that?"

by Red Blazer on Jun 13, 2008 10:54 AM EDT   0 recs

Kinsler

We’d have to give up some serious pitching prospects for the Rangers to consider moving Kinsler. I’m pretty sure they’re focusing on getting rid of Blalock (if he ever gets of the DL).

by launchshuttle on Jun 13, 2008 11:16 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

chris duncan and white elephants

you all are going to hate me for this but am i the only one who feels like there is a white elephant in the room when we talk about duncan’s mysterious loss of a power stroke?

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by themanthemyth on Jun 13, 2008 11:06 AM EDT   0 recs

Good one

that is, at least I learned what a white elephant is today. ;-)

by Woodwork on Jun 13, 2008 11:12 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I doubt it's steroid related

he’s not even elevating balls any more. If he were hitting a bunch of warning track shots now, then i’d agree that it may be a steroid issue. He just got knocked completely out of whack with the double hernia and his confidence is shot as well.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jun 13, 2008 11:26 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

Exactly. Without core strength (i.e. his guts), he can’t transfer power from his legs to his bat, which is the prototypical way to generate power from a swing. If you look at the guy, he isn’t “cut.” He’s not all biceps and shoulders, so he must have been depending on those legs in the past.

I wouldn’t expect him to be recovered for another year, and not without some pretty intense core body work.

"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz

by taiko on Jun 13, 2008 11:50 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

for the sake of argument

aren’t core injuries like oblique strains and hernias the new post-steroid era injury as players are trying to make up for lost torque?

How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor

by themanthemyth on Jun 13, 2008 11:54 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

for the sake of argument

Have you seen him crash into stuff before? Take a bad route where he awakwardly stubbles around. Im really surprised he hasn’t managed to decapitate himself yet.

by Evilfrog on Jun 13, 2008 12:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

point taken

the furious dry humping of inanimate objects could also be a contributing factor.

How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor

by themanthemyth on Jun 13, 2008 2:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Is it okay to rout for the Astros once in awhile?

Because I really hope the light up Joba.

by Evilfrog on Jun 13, 2008 11:14 AM EDT   0 recs