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Game 67 Open Thread: June 11 2008

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St. Louis @ Cincinnati


Looper Cueto
7-5, 4.86 5-5, 5.06

over his last 7 starts, looper has yielded a .351 / .399 / .509 line to opposing hitters. but so what? over that same span he's batting .500 / .600 / .583. . . . . too bad he can't hit off himself.

by now you've hard that albert probably won't appear again until after the all-star break. the cardinals have 30 games to play between now and then, beginning with tonight's.

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OT: InBev is making a bid to buyout Anheuser-Busch today, will most likely be accepted.

Possibility that this could spell the end of A-B in St. Louis.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jun 11, 2008 6:23 PM EDT   0 recs

that's not what i'm hearing out of STL

i know people who know people at AB, and they say AB is going to fight it.

InBev doesn’t want a fight, so don’t count on AB being sold just yet.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 11, 2008 6:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I know alot of people in the company

and i’m hearing it’s as good as done. $65/a share = Too good to pass up.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jun 11, 2008 6:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

really? that's not at all what i'm hearing

um,,,,

guess we’ll find out soon enough.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 11, 2008 7:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Time for Schlafly to prevail

much better brewery anyways

That was a real test," Soriano said of the play. "He didn’t call the ball, I didn’t call the ball, but I saw him close to the ball and I let him get the ball."

by Cardsfan_inCHI on Jun 11, 2008 7:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Here here!!

(Hear hear?)

Their Pilsner has been splendid this summer.

Well who the hell can see forever?

by Alxfritz on Jun 11, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I prefer their Scotch Ale and Winter ESB.

But they are all great beers!

That was a real test," Soriano said of the play. "He didn’t call the ball, I didn’t call the ball, but I saw him close to the ball and I let him get the ball."

by Cardsfan_inCHI on Jun 11, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

if it happens

does the stadium get to keep the name?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jun 11, 2008 7:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

sponsored by the brewery

not the man

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jun 12, 2008 6:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

PS: Can Looper play 1st?

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jun 11, 2008 6:23 PM EDT   0 recs

No

But neither can Duncan.

by TheBirds on Jun 11, 2008 6:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Does anybody know

If Jay Bruce was a leadoff guy before getting called up? Seems wierd to give a new guy another responsibility this early. He was doing pretty good before the move.

by hoofhearted-pujols on Jun 11, 2008 6:38 PM EDT   0 recs

no

he batted third or clean up in louisville.

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by cardsfan84 on Jun 11, 2008 6:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

any one watching the pre game?

the cat just had Frank & Worrell taste testing Sky Line chili. it was awesome. both did not approve.

as some one who lives in ohio, i concur. their chili is crap.

every one i know says gold star chili is the move. although i’ve never had it.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 11, 2008 6:41 PM EDT   0 recs

gold star

Gold Star is by far the better of the two. I spent lots of time down in cincy during my days at tOSU

by stlhulsey on Jun 11, 2008 8:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Gut-Check Time

How do our Redbirds respond? Teams go in two directions when something like this happens:

-Morale drops and the team feels sorry for themselves. Negative result.

-Team comes together and says “we’re gonna hold this together until the big guns come back then we’re gonna kick some ass!” Positive result.

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by stltrav09 on Jun 11, 2008 6:45 PM EDT   0 recs

Indeed

I’m hoping for result #2.

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 11, 2008 6:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I wish it was anyone else on the mound, other than Looper

We need a victory today, for morale sake, and Looper lowers those chances exponentially.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Jun 11, 2008 6:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Looper's OPS+ = 85

Looking at those other teams, he would be better than about 2 starters in their rotation. I still don’t think they’d want him. If they do, they can have him….for a price.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 11, 2008 7:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

the real question might be

name 4 teams that would consider him one of their top 3 starters, which he is for us. Really considered our #2 going into this season.

by hoofhearted-pujols on Jun 11, 2008 7:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What?

You put Piniero/Parisi as our #4

by hoofhearted-pujols on Jun 11, 2008 7:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

Piniero is a fine pitcher.

by TheBirds on Jun 11, 2008 7:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

I’d have to say Looper is our #5

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 11, 2008 7:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm not too worried...

I had way too much time on my hands today, so I did a little number crunching….now this is not scientific, but it gives us a rough idea of how the Cards stand….

So far this season, WPA has been a pretty good statistic to describe the Cards. They have an average of .0909 WPA per game (i.e. a .5909 perdicted winning percentage), with an actual winning percentage (39-27) of .5909.

If you remove Pujols and Wainwright’s contributions (along with the others injured or sent to AAA) and spread the AB’s and IP among the remaining players, your average WPA for future games is .0026, a decrease of .09064. This lowers the Cardinals predicted home winning percentage to .527 and road winning percentage to .472.

If we use these numbers, average the winning percentage of the appropriate home and away records with the Cards and Cubs remaining schedules to the All-Star Break, it looks as follows:

Cards 14.24 – 15.76
Cubs 16.66 – 13.34

Granted, this assumes that the Cubs continue being cold on the road (and TB, CWS, etc. stay hot at home).....the numbers aren’t exact, but I don’t think we will get blown out of the water in the next month.

by NorseKaiser on Jun 11, 2008 7:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Memphis mafia

So, on any given night over the next 30 days:

1B – Duncan
2B – Ryan
LF – Mather
RF- Ludwick/Skippy
CF – Ankiel

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 11, 2008 6:54 PM EDT   0 recs

was at last nights game

it was fun until albert got hurt. some fans behind us showed no class when he got injured.

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by cardsfan84 on Jun 11, 2008 6:56 PM EDT   0 recs

That's disappointing

When he was helped off the field, there was a nice round of applause.

by cardsgirl95 on Jun 11, 2008 6:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Both of these pitchers

are either really good or really bad it seems, so it’s kinda like rolling dice (advantage home team of course).

by TheBirds on Jun 11, 2008 7:14 PM EDT   0 recs

i wish we had yadi in the tonight

really need that bat with pujols down, especially the day after he gets hurt

give him a day off another time

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by ihavebadknees on Jun 11, 2008 7:15 PM EDT   0 recs

Yeah, i understand resting him

but it always seems to be at the wrong time.

by TheBirds on Jun 11, 2008 7:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Why did he need rest already?

He got Monday off and he’ll get next Monday off. Then again, catching 6 straight days can be extremely tiring.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 11, 2008 7:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Duncan not a bad choice for tonight

with this guys command (or lack there of), the bat on shoulder strategy might actually work.

by TheBirds on Jun 11, 2008 7:16 PM EDT   0 recs

whatever it takes for larue to drive him in

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jun 11, 2008 7:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

psychic much?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jun 11, 2008 7:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

good start so far

get to him early boys. get to him early.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 11, 2008 7:17 PM EDT   0 recs

YES ANKIEL!!!!

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 11, 2008 7:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hahahahahah

atta kid ank, homer

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jun 11, 2008 7:18 PM EDT   0 recs

OUCH!

says the baseball

by TheBirds on Jun 11, 2008 7:18 PM EDT   0 recs

hells yea

good start to the albert injury period

by VolsnCards5 on Jun 11, 2008 7:18 PM EDT   0 recs

To quote Around the Horn today

“The cardinal outfield is in shambles”

by TheBirds on Jun 11, 2008 7:18 PM EDT   0 recs

It was Woody Paige

They all said the Cardinals were done since Pujols is hurt.

I think it was Cowlishaw that actually name four of our starters, I was impessed.

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 11, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

how is it in shambles?

in what way?

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 11, 2008 7:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Because there aren't any "superstars" in it

That would be my guess. Because our Schumaker, Ankiel, Ludwick, Barton, Mather, Duncan outfield is just about the best in the biz..

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DFA Adam Kennedy!
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 11, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

here's a good tip

stop watching the WWL. especially the shit like around the horn.

those idiots on that show don’t know their asses from their elbows

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 11, 2008 7:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's entertaining for me

Not because I gain any useful knowledge from it, but because I get to see how many times they get shit wrong…

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
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by Mr Redbird on Jun 11, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

the one time i watched that show

my brain almost exploded due to their stupidity.

i just can’t believe it’s on TV. it’s beyond awful

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 11, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Knew that one was coming

having to throw a fastball to a dead fastball hitter is painful for pitchers.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 11, 2008 7:19 PM EDT   0 recs

that was actually a breaking pitch

that didn’t break much. Ankiel was sitting on it. Probably figured “he can’t get the fb over I bet he comes with a breaking pitch”

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by stltrav09 on Jun 11, 2008 7:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Or the breaking pitch was so bad

that it was straight as an arrow and he was even still a tad out in front of it.

Who knows. Whatever it was, it was right down the middle.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 11, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah it didn't break at all

it just spun in the middle of the zone & Rick crushed it

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 11, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think it was a fastball

because he just threw and 86 mph first pitch fastball to Duncan.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 11, 2008 7:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

if you have DVR go watch it

i’m almost 100% positive it was a curve that didn’t curve

tomato, tomato.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 11, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

it was a breaking ball

at least it tried to be a breaking ball

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on Jun 11, 2008 7:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I saw the replay on BBTN just now

it was definitely a breaking pitch

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by Mr Redbird on Jun 11, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

dunno about this year

but last year, ankiel was much better against breaking balls than fastballs, going by the bornbybits data.

"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton

by SleepyCA on Jun 11, 2008 10:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ahh

now if we can keep this up over the next 30 games

by FunkeeC on Jun 11, 2008 7:19 PM EDT   0 recs

We got plenty of guys

who could carry a team when on a hot streak. If Glaus and Ankiel could stay hot, we are in good shape.

That was a real test," Soriano said of the play. "He didn’t call the ball, I didn’t call the ball, but I saw him close to the ball and I let him get the ball."

by Cardsfan_inCHI on Jun 11, 2008 7:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

hang em & bang em indeed

that ball was crushed

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Jun 11, 2008 7:19 PM EDT   0 recs

man, can rick drill a mistake pitch

he is so good at it, its rediculous

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Jun 11, 2008 7:19 PM EDT   0 recs

ANKIEL!!

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Jun 11, 2008 7:21 PM EDT   0 recs

Dick Pole...

that gets me every time

Proud President of the Unofficial Skip Schumaker Fan Club!

I don't care about your fantasy team.

by stltrav09 on Jun 11, 2008 7:21 PM EDT   0 recs

How strong is Adam Dunn?

Ankiel killed that ball and only hit it about 10 rows up. Dunn hit that HR vs Cleveland and it almost left the stadium.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Jun 11, 2008 7:21 PM EDT   0 recs

Not a bad swing

almost warning track opposite field, haven’t seen that in a while.

by TheBirds on Jun 11, 2008 7:22 PM EDT   0 recs