Mea Culpa
All right, everybody. I'm really, really sorry. Ever since I posed the question of who would hurt this team the most if they were to go down, we've had nothing but bad luck. Young ace pitcher, down. Greatest Hitter in the Game, down. What next? You know what, I'm not even going to vocalise that question out of fear. Still, I obviously somehow invited in the bad kharma, and for that I apologise. I just thought I was trying to start a discussion, not end our season.
I can't find confirmation of it anywhere just yet, (edit: right here ) but KTRS is reporting that the Cardinals have already informed Chris Duncan he's on his way back up. I'm not exactly sure how I feel about this move. It's obviously the most sensible, easiest move, but I wonder if it's really the right one. Duncan was sent down to Memphis in order to try and get his stroke back, in a lower pressure environment, with less of the microscope that comes with failing at the major league level. He hasn't done that. He's played six games total since being optioned, (and isn't starting against left handed pitchers there, either) and is currently hitting .190 without a homer. That's not exactly indicative of a player who has his stroke back.
Of course, our only other real option at this point is to put Joey Bombs over at first for the time being, and Mather isn't exactly lighting the world on fire at the moment either. He's not lost at the plate or anything, he just looks like a rookie getting his first taste of major league calibre pitching. Personally, I think he'll make the adjustments and get himself going, but maybe filling in for the best hitter in baseball isn't the best situation for him to try and get himself going. Thoughts?
It looks like Pineiro is going to be able to take his turn on Thursday, which is excellent news. As good as the Cards' young pitchers have been this year, (and even Parisi was quite good in a bullpen role) I'm not sure that I'm particularly eager to tempt fate further by bringing up someone like a Jaime Garcia, Mortensen, or Jess Todd just yet. I don't think any of those guys are quite ready yet, and I would hate to see one of them come up, get knocked around, and lose confidence because of it. Sort of win the battle, lose the war sort of proposition, if you ask me. Thankfully, Jo-El, (does anyone find themselves wishing that we still had Cal Eldred on this team, just so we could have Jo-El and Cal-El at the same time?) appears to be ready to come back.
Enough doom and gloom. Let's talk about positives. Let's talk about Mitchell Boggs making his debut.
I've got to say, Boggs was really, really good last night. He didn't blow the Reds away or anything, but for a guy making his major league starting debut on both short notice and somewhat short rest, he was fantastic.
You could tell he was amped out of the gate; he couldn't find the strikezone and was consistently throwing 94-95 in that first inning. Luckily, the Cincinnati nine helped him out a bit with some poor situational hitting, and Mr. Boggs settled in nicely after that. His fastball was sitting pretty comfortably at 93 or so, and his sinker hummed in there at right about 90. What I was surprised by was just how much movement he has on that two seamer of his. All the scouting reports I've read on him have mentioned that he has good sink, but I wasn't prepared for the hard boring action he was producing on those pitches. Speaking of scouting reports, I'm a little curious about something. From Baseball America:
"Boggs has scrapped his curve and has developed a wipeout slider that now ranks as one of the best in the system."- Prospect Handbook 2008
I have to admit, I'm not seeing the wipeout slider. I saw a nice little curveball that he struggled a bit to command last night, but no slider. A while back, over at Future Redbirds , Azruavatar wrote up a detailed scouting report on Boggs that said about the same thing. And I quote:
"The slider was a fringe pitch thrown only 5-6 times over the course of the game."
Az graded Boggs' slider as about a 30 on the 20-80 scouting scale, and I think I would be inclined to basically agree with that. I think it might be a little better than a 30, but not much. Regardless of the exact grade, the pitch that Boggs throws is a far cry from the "wipeout" slider that was described by BA. I have to wonder, what became of the pitch that the BA scouts saw? If anyone has any sort of inside info on what exactly is going on with Mitchell's breaking pitches, I would greatly appreciate some assistance.
Overall, though, I was encouraged by what I saw on the mound last night. I think Boggs has an excellent delivery, and should remain very durable, which in itself has a lot of value. His two fastballs should be enough, even without better secondary pitches, to allow him to have some success at this level. If he could figure out a way to improve that slider or maybe add a splitter or something, I think he could be a very successful major league pitcher. As it stands now, Wainwright looks to be out at least three weeks, so we're going to need some players to pitch in and shoulder the load. I think Boggs is up to the challenge.
News and notes:
There's a nice little article over at the P-D which details, among other things, exactly what is wrong with A.D.A.M. There's also some updates on the progress of Matt "the Chin" Clement and Muldoo.
The Cards aren't wasting any time in signing their recent draft picks, according to the Scout Network website. This makes me a very happy panda. Included in the article, and highlighted in one that requires a subscription, is also the news that they've agreed to terms with their supplemental pick, Lance Lynn from Ole Miss. Plug for the Scout guys: if you aren't a subscriber to their service, you should consider becoming one. Outstanding stuff on a daily basis.
Speaking of Lynn, Chris O' Leary had a nice breakdown of Lynn over at his site. I do really like the kid's delivery, and O' Leary absolutely loves him. He's a little higher on Lynn than I am overall, but I definitely think Lynn has the potential to be a great value pick for the Cardinals. With his size and mechanics, he should deliver the innings, at the very least.
I wonder how long before the Cardinals look to promote Fernando Salas to Memphis? They signed him as a free agent out of Mexico in early 2007, and he's been kicking ass and chewing bubblegum ever since. (By the way, Fernando Salas doesn't chew bubblegum.) There are really only three numbers you need to know about Mr. Salas; to know more would only force you to confront your own mortality.
35 2/3 innings pitched
8 bases on balls
56 strikeouts.
So, I wonder when he's moving up?
The Cards have already guaranteed themselves a winning road trip, taking 5 out of the first seven with two to play. Now comes the tough part, though: playing without Albert. Let's hope they're up to the challenge.
0 recs |
315
comments
Comments
sorry, I don't have anything to say...
I don’t feel too well right now…need to go back to bed…get into fetal position.
by tbell61 on Jun 11, 2008 8:09 AM EDT 0 recs
....sokay...
El Hombre’ will bounce back, hes a healer and resilent type….besides, he cant stand watching! Being on the bench creates mang-size catchecolamines that speed healing in the injured area and creates a great need in the brain to have a bat and glove nearby at all times….at least in Alberts case. Lets hope he takes the time to actually heal up.
by cardschinmusic on
Jun 11, 2008 8:35 AM EDT
up
0 recs
Did they play without him already?
Only 2 games in Wsh but they did play without him and split those 2. Also he was 0-12 or something in Hou and they won 2-1 in that series. It will be harder without the threat of AP but I think this group could play fine without him.
Vs RHP Schumaker, Miles/Ryan, Ankiel, Ludwick, Glaus, Duncan, Molina, Pitcher, Kennedy/Izturis
Vs LHP Ryan, Barton, Ludwick, Ankiel, Glaus, Mather, Molina, Pitcher, Izturis/Miles
Not the same without AP but not horrible either.
by StLHugo on Jun 11, 2008 8:26 AM EDT 0 recs
yeah
if it’s short term (rest of the month or so) then we’ll be ok.
In that 0-12 he still represented the #2 hitters getting decent pitches, even if he’s 0’fer whatever he’s still making an impact, and as far as the doubleheader goes..
remember, it was the nationals and he did have a PH bomb in the day game
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on
Jun 11, 2008 9:15 AM EDT
up
0 recs
There's a difference...
Between him taking a day off and not being able to play. His mere presence in the lineup raises OBP for the team and situational pitching issues for the other manager. I think that Tony will have to put more runners in motion with him out, looking to steal some bases and playing small ball to get some runs. This really comes at the worst possible time for the club as well— the next two weeks have a horribly difficult schedule of games.
Question: When do we get to play the Tigers at home? I believe this is 3 years in a row that the Cards have had to go to Detroit….
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Jun 11, 2008 9:49 AM EDT
up
0 recs
You are correct, sir.
Three years in a row playing the Tigers at Comerica.
by cardsgirl95 on
Jun 11, 2008 10:04 AM EDT
up
0 recs
Exactly
I believe they’ve also gone to Boston every time they’ve played the Sox. How can the interleague play be so unbalanced every single year?
I would guess it has something to do with the fact that the National League has more teams or something, but that would explain why the AL has a much better record in interleague play, THEY GET MORE GAMES AT HOME.
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Jun 11, 2008 10:14 AM EDT
up
0 recs
we played
The Rays and the Royels here.
So in interleauge we are playing 6 at home and 6 on the road.
by Evilfrog on
Jun 11, 2008 10:18 AM EDT
up
0 recs
Still no excuse...
for playing the Tigers three years in a row on the road….
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Jun 11, 2008 10:21 AM EDT
up
0 recs
Not true
We play the Royals, Red Sox and Tigers on the road. We get Tampa Bay and KC at home. That makes 9 on the road and 6 at home.
by indakind on
Jun 11, 2008 12:50 PM EDT
up
0 recs
doh!
We play KC on the Road too.
I hate interleague play. I hate the American league. Baseball is played by 9 people not freakin 10.
by Evilfrog on
Jun 11, 2008 12:54 PM EDT
up
0 recs
exactly
i find it very annoying that actual baseball teams have to play against arena baseball teams at all, let alone for some sort of imaginary “world championship”.
by mattybobo on
Jun 11, 2008 1:02 PM EDT
up
0 recs
I don't think it's gay,
just “different” and not as good. I will always favor NL, however, I totally consider the AL a different sport entirely.
Somebody put it best here, I cant remember who:
“the winner of the national league is actually the champion of baseball. then there’s the american league, which plays something a lot like baseball, only the pitchers don’t have to hit, and according to official rules only teams from boston and new york are allowed to compete for the championship. then the winner of baseball (NL) and bizarro-ball play in a seven game exhibition "world series"
anybody remember who said that let me know, that shit’s going on my myspace as a quote.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on
Jun 11, 2008 1:57 PM EDT
up
0 recs
that was totally me!
i was sort of alluding to it above in the hopes that anybody remembered it. i would be honored to be quoted, i found it rather amusing myself.
by mattybobo on
Jun 11, 2008 2:07 PM EDT
up
0 recs
and in fairness
it’s sort of based on a couple baseball conversations between myself and my other clever buddies, so it’s not entirely original material
by mattybobo on
Jun 11, 2008 2:08 PM EDT
up
0 recs
NL Central is always messed up
because there’s more teams in it than the other divisions, I believe.
by saladdays on
Jun 11, 2008 3:56 PM EDT
up
0 recs
No
The Yankees and the Red Sox came to old Busch for Interleague in ‘05.
by cardsgirl95 on
Jun 11, 2008 10:20 AM EDT
up
0 recs
We played the Red Sox at home the last year of Old Busch.
It was Renteria’s homecoming.
by Ray Lankford on
Jun 11, 2008 11:04 AM EDT
up
0 recs
not so
I saw the Cards play the BoSox in Busch II in 2005.
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jun 11, 2008 1:53 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Earlier this spring MLB admitted it was a mistake
On a side note – I married a die hard Tiger fan and went to Commerica the last 2 years for the games. Talk about a bunch of idiot fans.
by birdo rojo on
Jun 11, 2008 11:45 AM EDT
up
0 recs
I saw that too...
thing is, how does a mistake like that get made??? Does anybody check this kind of thing out? You would think that someone can check their scheduling database and say, ”... you know, St Louis has visited Detroit the last two years. Perhaps we shouldn’t schedule them there a third year…”
I have found that my tolerance for this sort of thing in the Bud Selig era is at zero…not a fan of interleague play to begin with, but at least the first several years, you could figure out the format…now I don’t know what they are doing!!
by tbell61 on
Jun 11, 2008 12:40 PM EDT
up
0 recs
hey hey
at least David Stern isn’t our commish. Mr. Corruption-Central over there.
On with the (good) youth movement!
by aet15 on
Jun 11, 2008 12:57 PM EDT
up
0 recs
it seems like even they
don’t know what they are doing.
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jun 11, 2008 1:55 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Late post here
but fyi, I think one of the reasons is that they changed the way the schedule was done. Baseball schedules were, apparently, actually created by one guy, or one guy and his wife.
At some point in the last few years, MLB stopped that. it’s either done by MLB committee or computer now.
by sdrone on
Jun 11, 2008 3:20 PM EDT
up
0 recs
They played em at home in 2006
That hole world series thing.. Ahh, fuzzy memories.
by cloistermaximus on
Jun 11, 2008 10:08 AM EDT
up
0 recs
That
totally wasn’t my point. Mr. Selig doesn’t “schedule” the World Series….
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Jun 11, 2008 10:15 AM EDT
up
0 recs
I was speaking strictly of
Interleague play – we have gone to Comerica the last three years in a row and Detroit has yet to come to St. Louis. My question is why have we played the Tigers three years in a row anywhere? Isn’t this supposed to be the year we take on the AL East? And last year, weren’t we playing the AL West? Why the Tigers three years in a row? Have we suddenly developed a rivalry we don’t know about?
by cardsgirl95 on
Jun 11, 2008 10:26 AM EDT
up
0 recs
yeah
I’m sick of playing the Tigers. Bring on someone new!
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jun 11, 2008 1:56 PM EDT
up
0 recs
+1
part of the mike maroth deal?
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
by sportsman on
Jun 11, 2008 7:38 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Re: the next two weeks have a horribly difficult schedule of games
I don’t see these weeks as horribly difficult (aside from the trip to Boston). The Tigers have scuffled, and even though their offense has the ability to put up runs, they have been shut out plenty of times this year. The Royals are a joke, I saw them play in Chicago against the Sox and they have all of the weapons as ,, uh,, I guess the Nationals. We see them 6 times in next 3 weeks which should help to cushion this stretch. That leaves us with the Phils who are also a legitimate threat, but I think being home gives us the edge. Guys, it’s not our offense that is overwhelming other teams, it’s the pitching! So lets get some good outings by The Colonel, Lohse, and crew before we concede this season. We just need to keep our heads above water at this point, I’m not talking winning every other game… just maintaining at least 10 over .500… which I don’t think is a stretch at this point. I think El Hombre and Waino will be back by early July which will also be around the time we will be talking about a healthy Carp. A 2nd half push is not out of the question… and the Flubs will have to start losing at some point!!
by Cardsfan_inCHI on
Jun 11, 2008 10:29 AM EDT
up
0 recs
I ain't concedin' nothin!
we got depth booooyeeee
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jun 11, 2008 1:57 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Thats the optimism I like to see.
Wanna help me wipe out the Cubs fanbase?
by Cardsfan_inCHI on
Jun 11, 2008 4:01 PM EDT
up
0 recs
well
my little brother is a Cubs fan, so not really… but we should watch a game sometime. I almost went to Sedgwick’s on a whim last weekend for the 6pm game on Sat., but got soaked while riding my bike. I was totally in the area too and was within minutes of finding a dry place and a cold beer and cardinals baseball.
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jun 11, 2008 5:10 PM EDT
up
0 recs
There is no doubt
that losing the best hitter in baseball is not a plus. However, I have seen a whole new side of Tony LaRusa and consider this his best managing job to date. As long as Pujols isn’t looking at season ending surgery, this is yet another opportunity for the kids to show what they can do. I like Mather at first because I think that he is a fundamentally better hitter than Duncan. Bring Duncan in as a 4th or 5th outfielder. I think you have to start Shuey, Ankiel, and Ludwick right now with minimal platooning to keep Barton fresh. If we can hold it together and end up 9 or 10 over heading into the break, I would be ecstatic. That would be about 1 month of recoup for Pujols, which, if it is just a strain, may be just enough.
For everyone worrying about the northsiders, remember 1 thing…..they’re the Cubs. Bad stuff is going to start happening to them. The only thing I wish, regarding them, is that Harry was still alive to butcher Fukodome in the 7th after a few buds. The censor would have to be ready every time that guy came up just in case he needed to bleep something.
Go CARDS!
by ckeiner on Jun 11, 2008 8:30 AM EDT 0 recs
Sorry...
With all the pitching injuries, Pujols going down, and the tough schedule coming up, I’d be surprised if the club can get to the break better than 5 games over .500. They play on the road at Boston and Chicago, who have the best home records in basebalI - I don’t see them winning either of those series, I just hope they don’t get swept. I guess it depends on how long Albert and Adam miss - but I doubt either are back and effective by the All-Star break…
"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller
by fourstick on
Jun 11, 2008 9:59 AM EDT
up
0 recs
I didn't see them winning half of the series they have pulled out
Let’s give them a chance… it’s our team after all
by Cardsfan_inCHI on
Jun 11, 2008 10:32 AM EDT
up
0 recs
Cubs are at home
we don’t visit Chicago until August and only have six games in Chicago. The big away games between now and the all star game are 3 Boston (6/20-6/22), 3 Detroit (6/24-6/26) and 3 @ Philly (7/8-7/10). The other away games involve Cincy, KC and the Pirates.
Play .450 ball to the all star break and we end up nine games over .500 at the break. How many of us (besides Red Blazer) thought this team would be above .500 in mid June?
by ubeddie on
Jun 11, 2008 11:31 AM EDT
up
0 recs
whoever did was a homer.
That would be like predicting the Yankees collapsing this year.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on
Jun 11, 2008 11:36 AM EDT
up
0 recs
I predicted the Yankees collapse
and the Rays winning the AL East.
by Hardcore Legend on
Jun 11, 2008 2:11 PM EDT
up
0 recs
I did
Didn’t think the pitching would be this good, though. And had a hard time believing Izturis would get to so many grounders.
by liam on
Jun 11, 2008 1:12 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Thanks for the honorable mention. 95 wins or bust!
"Why does he keep saying that?"
by Red Blazer on
Jun 11, 2008 3:45 PM EDT
up
0 recs
as much as I love Pujols and Wainer
this is a team after all, and we wouldn’t be where we are if they weren’t a good team
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jun 11, 2008 1:59 PM EDT
up
0 recs
+1
It is gonna suck not having those guys on the field for awhile but the team has good depth. Hopefully it will force guys to raise thier game.
"Why does he keep saying that?"
by Red Blazer on
Jun 11, 2008 3:47 PM EDT
up
0 recs
that's one thing that's making this team exciting and competitive
is the competition for spots and playing time within the team
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jun 11, 2008 5:10 PM EDT
up
0 recs
btw
all your links have an extra http in them that will make them dead links
by StLHugo on Jun 11, 2008 8:33 AM EDT 0 recs
Whoops.
Sorry about that; I think they’re all fixed now.
What this book presupposes is, maybe he didn't?
by the red baron on
Jun 11, 2008 8:55 AM EDT
up
0 recs
Um,
So, based on your posting, I would assume that Adam Kennedy just chews bubblegum? Perhaps he’s the reason everyobdy is all out of bubblegum?
I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck
by bukowski on Jun 11, 2008 8:40 AM EDT 0 recs
a stick of bubble gum a day keeps the DFA away
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on
Jun 11, 2008 9:12 AM EDT
up
0 recs
Interesting discussion over at Bleed Cubbie Blue
on AP’s injury. Surprisingly, most of the posts are not of the asshat variety.
I have discovered in twenty years of moving around a ball park, that the knowledge of the game is usually in inverse proportion to the price of the seats. ~Bill Veeck
by bukowski on Jun 11, 2008 8:53 AM EDT 0 recs
Credit Where it's Due
This is hilarious.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
by Titus Pullo on
Jun 11, 2008 11:14 AM EDT
up
0 recs
link
wont work for me. not sure why :-(
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on
Jun 11, 2008 12:43 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Take the extra http out of the url
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
DFA Adam Kennedy!
Track 'em Tigers - An SB Nation Blog for Auburn Tigers fans
by Mr Redbird on
Jun 11, 2008 12:44 PM EDT
up
0 recs
the part about the bear
just about made me piss myself
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Jun 11, 2008 6:37 PM EDT
up
0 recs
the choppers finished it
off to find some clean undies
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Jun 11, 2008 6:43 PM EDT
up
0 recs
they dont want to tempt the baseball gods
if you make asshat comments regarding other teams injuries, then the baseball gods smite you.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on
Jun 11, 2008 12:20 PM EDT
up
0 recs
I was listening to Cubs analysts on ESPN radio the other day
and the two of them alone made enough comments of the asshat variety to smite all of Chicago. They were gloating over the fact that they may not have to face Chipper Jones in the Atlanta series and were celebrating Waino’s and Welley’s injuries and saying that Cardinals have no staying power (wtf have they been doing all season long?!?). Karma is due to set the Cubs on a long stretch of winless series!!!
by Cardsfan_inCHI on
Jun 11, 2008 4:07 PM EDT
up
0 recs
The 40 man...
Need to get Salas on the 40 man (wicked and seems mature beyond his years), along with Garcia and Wasdin maybe….hes unspectacular but can eat some innings in a spot bullpen start along with Villone. At any rate, the 40 man roster needs an overhaul.
Whats going to happen with Izzy? Theres a question!
Boggs never used the slider much in AA either, he needs another pitch, but I believe in the kid over the long haul, he and Garcia have a future. We got a few young arms! And apparently need’em.
I believe Mather will heat up…hes playing the defense I thought he would, he makes his plays without much drama.
When was Villones last start?
by cardschinmusic on Jun 11, 2008 8:55 AM EDT 0 recs
Wasdin sucks, and is nothing more than AAA filler
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on
Jun 11, 2008 12:26 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Nicely stated, indicative of your level of understanding...
He and Jack White certainly do suck, but I dont have a picture of Wasdin for an avatar…you never know who might save your ass in a pinch, and it might be Wasdin in a bullpen start.
by cardschinmusic on
Jun 12, 2008 7:24 AM EDT
up
0 recs
Bring up Wallace?
Come on, who else wants to see us make Wallace the next “straight to the Majors” guy, even if only for a few weeks?
by Craig341 on Jun 11, 2008 9:02 AM EDT 0 recs
Not sure about actually doing it.....
But we could certainly make him think it was an option, to get him to sign quickly. Haha
by SoonerfanTU on
Jun 11, 2008 9:22 AM EDT
up
0 recs
nah
I wouldn’t just bring him up like that. Not enough reason to.
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on
Jun 11, 2008 2:03 PM EDT
up
0 recs
give it a go
If it happens , I WILL be at that game
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on
Jun 11, 2008 6:44 PM EDT
up
0 recs
Screaming in pain
From the P-D:
After falling, Pujols tried to stretch the muscle before assistant trainer Greg Hauck got to him. Catcher Yadier Molina and reliever Ron Villone lifted Pujols, who recoiled after once touching his left toe to the ground on the way to the dugout.Pujols grimaced while being carried an


