Sign Sidney Ponson!
by Molina4MVP on Jun 10, 2008 12:58 AM EDT
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With our starting pitching troubles at the moment, I think we should sign Sidney Ponson.
In 9 games this season with the Rangers, Ponson is 4-1 with a 3.88 ERA. He was just designated for assignment because he has a bad attitude. We should wait and see if he clears waivers, and if he does, we should try to sign him. We could use him until our boys get healthy and then release him if he struggles/has behavior problems. (He didn't have any alcohol problems in Texas, he just got mad at the manager for taking him out of a game he struggled in when he pitched on only 3 days rest http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=3431411&campaign=rss&source=MLBHeadlines )
At home, in what seems to be considered at hitters park, he went 2-0 with a 4.41 ERA in 6 starts. he faced the twins, royals, A's (twice), Astros, and Indians.
On the road, he went 2-1 with a 3.00 ERA in 3 starts. He pitched at Seattle, Minnesota, and Tampa Bay.
He had 25:16 k:bb ratio, but had allowed 71 hits in 55.2 innings. These aren't staggering numbers, but I feel like they will be better than anyone we could call up to fill his place. He also suffered from having a sub-par defense behind him, and he got by on his 57.3% groundout rate, which would do well with us.
This would be better than calling up a young guy that isn't ready (i.e. Jaime Garcia, who I am a BIG fan of, but could struggle early because of his limited playing time above AA. It would be better to avoid having to rush him up into the majors) or throwing Parisi out there or converting K-Mac to a starter.
Some may disagree, and that's cool. I just feel that this would be an easy temporary solution for our starting pitching problem that we have right now, (I'm sorry if this has been brought up already, I have been out of town all weekend at a wedding).
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Why?
We’ve got Wellemeyer, Lohse, Pineiro, Looper and Boggs in the rotation right now. Without having seen Boggs pitch as a starter yet in the Majors, the only pitcher Ponson is better than is Looper and they won’t be removing him from the rotation unless Carpenter comes back to force him out and the team refuses to trade Lohse.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2008 1:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yea, but
Wellemeyer is missing his next start (and with our medical staff, who knows how hurt he really is….) and isn’t Pineiro still hurt? (as I said, I have been out of town the last 4 days, so I haven’t heard if he is going to be back soon or not)
I wouldn’t say that Boggs is automatically awesome (Or even better than Ponson at this point). I know he has been good in AAA, but that doesn’t mean he will continue performing that well in the majors (i.e. Anthony Reyes, but I really don’t want to open up that entire can of worms…), especially with this being his first year in AAA.
Ponson’s experience could be beneficial, seeing as Wellemeyer, Looper, and Boggs don’t have more than 1 1/2 seasons as a starter under their belt yet.
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Jun 10, 2008 1:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
Pineiro will start on Thursday and Wellemeyer will be starting in the weekend series vs Philadelphia (probably in the ‘Pineiro/Parisi’ original spot).
The rotation looks to be
Tuesday – Boggs
Wednesday – Looper
Thursday – Pineiro
Friday – Lohse
Saturday – Wellemeyer
Sunday – Boggs (?)
This, of course, assumes that Boggs doesn’t blow hard like Parisi did.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2008 2:35 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We will have an off-day on Monday again
which will allow them to re-sort the rotation before our 6 straight games vs the AL.
Then we get another Monday off and Wainwright (hopefully healed) is eligible to come of the DL and regain the rotation on Tuesday June 24 vs the Tigers.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2008 2:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
what the hell was I saying?
He will come ‘off’ the DL and ‘rejoin’ the rotation.
by Hardcore Legend on Jun 10, 2008 2:40 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also
I wasn’t saying that Ponson is an incredible option, I just think he would be cheap and we could cut him loose at any point, but he could eat innings for us and make starts while we let our pitchers get healthy without us having to rush out Minor Leaguers that may not be ready to bring up at this point and would benefit from more time refining their pitching in AAA.
"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean
by Molina4MVP on Jun 10, 2008 1:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
With the team trying to shed it's "embarrising/tragic" off field image of the past 2 years
I highly doubt they are going to sign Sidney and the unwanted baggage that comes with him….for a 2ND time!!
Been there done that, bought the T-Shirt…..no thanks.
by KYCards on Jun 10, 2008 2:56 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
after a crappy day at work
this headline made me laugh. Thank you.
by effin fisk on Jun 10, 2008 4:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Laughing is good...
No, but designate Kennedy and call up Barden, fill his spot on the 40 man roster with Garcia and clear Rico and Haerther (or Hawksworth) off the 40 roster and add Salas and Wasdin…. watch the Brewers wire to see what they do with Weaver after Sunday, they have to call him up or he can ask for his release.
Garcia and Reyes then become the first two ports in the injury strom.
... Weaver, the ageless yet equally unimpressive Wasdin and down the road, the forever rehabbing Clement could throw some innings if needed. If Weaver is worth signing and would sign, Hawksworth can be moved from the 40 man? Ha ha ha… Im laughing, because Wainwright , Wellemeyer and Piniero are fine!
by cardschinmusic on Jun 10, 2008 7:36 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't this about as likely to happen as calling up Reyes?
Have we forgotten why it is that the portly Ponson is no longer wearing the birds on bat? It is possible-slightly-that LaDunc hate Ponson even more than Reyes. Why would Mo want to revisit one of Walt’s unqualified trash heap failures?
by bgh on Jun 10, 2008 8:53 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
There is only one word that needs to be said about signing ponson..
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
"Even when the rain falls, Even when the flood starts rising, Even when the storm comes, I am washed by the water! -NeedToBreath
by Calhoun on Jun 10, 2008 9:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
beat me to it
I was going to post the exact same thing.
I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.
by madding on Jun 10, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hell if the team wants to sign someone with a drinking problem
they could do it much cheaper by signing one of the many of us here. Hell,Ponson doesn’t even know what a franklin is.
I stand by what I said before, my brain thinks I could be a major league pitcher, and as much as grief as I give it, it might be a better idea than giving Ponson multiple starts.
People do remember Cardinal Ponson V1.0, right?
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on Jun 10, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ponson is a horrible pitcher. There's no reason to sign him.
by JI on Jun 11, 2008 4:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
...I mean he's worse the Piniero, Looper, and Thompson
that’s some elite company.
by JI on Jun 11, 2008 4:06 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no
not just no, hell no
He was released because of a bad attitude and had a bad one here to when he wouldn’t do any conditioning
"Textbooks are Soviet propaganda" - Rev. Jerry Falwell
by elirock83 on Jun 11, 2008 10:19 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That's a horrible idea.
If he lasts into the 3rd inning, that was good. C’mon.
Prospects are good. Especially when they aren't rushed.
by CraveCase on Jun 11, 2008 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ponson got off to a decent start for the Cards too...
And we all saw where that went.
by TheBirds on Jun 11, 2008 3:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Last game I attened in person I sat over the bull pen and wathced the frowns on Dunc's face
face as Lord Sidney lobbed cement mixers before the game. He didn’t make it out of the first inning though he did make it out of the 314 area code shortly thereafter. He ain’t coming back, I hope
An optimist is a man who upon discovering that a rose smells better than a cabbage concludes it will make better soup.
HL Mencken
by akaitori on Jun 11, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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