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i'm wearing a hawaiian shirt, standing in front of a cash box, ringing up purchases at my kids' school fund-raiser. my drinks are free, but i can't drink ---- because i'm driving 3 or 4 drunk dads home. my life sucks, in other words. only a st louis victory can salvage anything of value from this evening; don't let me down fellahs. at the time i programmed this post, the cards led 1-0 and had the sacks jammed, nobody out in the top of the second, with wellemeyer batting; win expectancy 75 percent.

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i want a win! lets go redbirds!

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 9, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This team is kind of ridiculous

great in OBP, but we counteract that by NOT hitting HRs or XBH and grounding into a TON of DPs.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The ultimate

base-clogging team.

Thank God Dusty’s not out manager.

by Phizzle on May 9, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I posted before this new thread

Mo needs to find us an RBI guy in a month or so if we are going to make a serious run for the division this year.

by KYCards on May 9, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How much longer

should they give him before they need to start looking for possible trades?

by KYCards on May 9, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

they need an error mercy rule in MLB; if you give up 4 errors in one game, your team automatically loses.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

time to yank welly

nt

It could be worse, you could be on fire.

by themanthemyth on May 9, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I say we leave him in...

It’s easy to say after he gets out of it.

by Evilfrog on May 9, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Get em up

those balls were ripped

by poohrat on May 9, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

0 BB by Welley

Man he seems to be avoiding walks this season.

by StLHugo on May 9, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Its been said before, control is the only skill that improves

for pitchers as they age (in general)

Its very possible this is a real change in his skill set. If so we got a steal.

by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's a really good comment

and it seems to be true. i have been really impressed with wellemeyer all year long. i just wish he could pitch deeper into games but maybe that is something that takes time? idk

by riotmute on May 9, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

huge play there

have a chance

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

“a potbelly stove in the middle of the basketball court”

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hell yeah

atta kid welley
way to get out of that one

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

SOLID

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I recall

And I think initially I thought theirs was worse.. Then Izzy melted down again, coupled with Franklin giving up some runs.. now I’m not so sure.

by cloistermaximus on May 9, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i'd take izzy over gagne.

but that’s not saying much.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, c’mon now

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

all right all....

I’m out franklins to drink on the town. Good luck GO CARDS!

by poohrat on May 9, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

uhoh dunc

not goin yr way dude

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That Pepsi commerical is going to Merriweather's head

he keeps calling these checkswings strikes when the hitter’s clearly aren’t going through the zone.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

of Duncy boy...

when is it your going to find whatever it is your looking for?

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 9, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

before or after the steroids

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How long before we see Mather?

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Anyone know if Pineiro will be ready to go

for his next start? If not, who gets it? Parisi pitched 2 innings yesterday, what is his availibilty to start that game if Pineiro can’t go?

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he's listed

on the cards site and ready to go.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 9, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

troy goes on DL??

does uncle rico come back???

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 9, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mather

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wouldn’t mind seeing that happen

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I mean

if he’s on the DL

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd asume its decent

seeing as how he was a ss before he filled out.

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

doubt it

Freese or Mather probably.

by StLHugo on May 9, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Freese isnt on the 40 man roster

our choices are Mather, Uncle Rico, Hoffpauir, and Barden. I dont think Hoff can play 3rd.

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

barden isn't either

but we have a couple of guys who could be moved to the 60-day DL.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Barden then

Barden then….since he is a 3B as well.

by StLHugo on May 9, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Reyes, starts with a BB

Come on man don’t walk AAA batters.

by StLHugo on May 9, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just got home from dinner and mother's day shopping

Let’s get a few more in just for the hell of it. Not that I don’t trust Franklin and Izzy or anything….

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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

way to work it ank

plz lets get one yadi

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

crap

all indians no chiefs

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Get your money down now

who coughs up the lead, Franklin in the 8th or Izzy in the 9th.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why not both?

Franklin in the 8th, we get it back in the top of the 9th off of Gagne, then lose in the bottom of the 9th

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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

damn

i really get the feeling 3 runs isn’t going to win this.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

on the flip side.

if the pen holds this, thats a huge boost.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 9, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

memphis up 2-0

on a mark johnson single, hoff and d’angelo scored. reyes hitting now. top 2nd.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

at least we have the lead!

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on May 9, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

crack open the franklins

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I should have left the house by now

but this game somehow compels me. dammit

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

every game this year, it seems

I’m almost exhausted from watching this crap. hour after hour, night after night, of compelling, stressful baseball.

Can we please, just ONCE, win a game by 10 runs?

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Watching both the MLB and Milb

I am not sure which team would win a MIF hitting deathmatch. Barden and Hoff just might be able to outhit Izz2 and Miles.

Ok, on second thought, its really not even close…

by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

one down

franklin you crazy basteech

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ok vote.

leave franklin in. bring Izzy in.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 9, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good Lord

That shot by Fielder was a Franklin if I’ve ever seen one.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Lucky it was right at the Ludinator

So…3 outs left.. Why not let Frank get a 2 inning save?

by cloistermaximus on May 9, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Meaning

you have to be drunk to handle some of the contact he gives up.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i believe it was proposed by

“cloistermaximus”. He proposed that we make a drinking game out of Franklin’s pitching prowess as early as april 5th...

Since then it has grown in popularity and now any time an alcoholic beverage is consumed, it is called a franklin, and any time an event in a ball game causes you to be nervous, it is considered worthy of consuming a franklin.

I predict that all of VEB-dome will be in a recovery program by July at this rate.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ludwick

starting OF

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Prince Fielder= Largest singles hitter in the history of mankind

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Holy jeez

That was quick, Ryan! Do that every time.

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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Franklins

I have a fridge full for the late innings. But that 8th was great. Hardly had time to get a Franklin. Good thing, since it is still early morning!

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on May 9, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've gone from CTA

to cabbin it for this game. gonna cost me some dinero

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

smart man

i just moved from chicago. cta is the worst!

by riotmute on May 9, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I was thinking about riding my bike

with a ton of gear on my back. haven’t done that since last summer. not trustin the chicago drivers right now

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hey

do you go to the nyc cardinal group things?

by riotmute on May 9, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i haven't so far.

always ended up having to work. but i’d really like to at some point. maybe this tuesday?

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah i might go

i’ve been a couple times. it’s fun but that bar sucks ass

by riotmute on May 9, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Izzy2 squares up another pitch

pitcher picks it up and tosses to 1st. I miss having a SS for which a long drive might reach the seats, or at least warning track.

by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

gotta have my sixth franklin

before I go play guitar somewhere

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Coming up in the bottom of the 9th

vs Izzy:

Hart: 1 for 3, 0 K
Hall: 0 for 12, 0 K
Hardy: 1 for 9, 0 K

If he doesn’t lock this down, his hip is toast.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I

can’t watch this without a massive dose of Franklins.

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on May 9, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miles makes the play at 3rd

throws to Izzy for the cut and gets the out at 1st on the groundball.

Good job.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he looked great on that

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apparently, Izzy and Franklin are in a hurry to go get their own Franklins

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lets go redbirds…

come on izzy…back to basics

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." Bob Gibson

by jodicards on May 9, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice work ank

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

shhhhhhhhhhhh

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

positive thinking

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." Bob Gibson

by jodicards on May 9, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I have confidence that Ank can pull it back in.

But might need to make one hell of a catch after this cutter.

by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

As I said, de-duncan'ed

Funny how if Mulder had this start at AAA he would be starting in the MLB 5 days.

by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm going to vomit

Too much for my nerves!

by bjork24 on May 9, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Someone want to charge the field and break Izzy's pitching arm?

ANYTHING to keep La Russa from using him!

Your first thought when your team’s closer comes in should not be “oh shit”!

by craig3410 on May 9, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hang in there Izzy

Cheer with a franklin, don’t cry in it.

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by ColinMacLeod on May 9, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH

"because at the end of the day they still are the Chicago Cubs"

by rockin the red on May 9, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I saw this comment and through Izzy gave up a walk-off. We’re still alive with the walk.

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by ColinMacLeod on May 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

here it is

talk him up albert

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

How can you walk someone who is 2-17 lifetime against you???

by BSell81 on May 9, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is ridiculous

2 outs and he lets three on

by OCCardsFan on May 9, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Gamedayshows the last two balls as strikes?

were they close?

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on May 9, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ball 4 wasn't close.

almost got away from yadi.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Where were pitches 3 and 4?

Looked like meatballs on GameDay.

by WastedTalent on May 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

see above.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How about parisi now?

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on May 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i swear to god

if he walks in a run here i will cry

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well, thats worse

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Unbelievable

Izzy is so done!

by bjork24 on May 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

can we make izzy

a one batter specialist?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hes done

this is redic

It could be worse, you could be on fire.

by themanthemyth on May 9, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hate to say it

but yeah, it’s going downhill fast. everyone has him figured out

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I hope that was rhetorical...

because there’s probably another month of this, based on the 2006 model…

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually

I hope the plug is pulled soon…but with Tony’s history, I doubt it.

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on May 9, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

in the off season

skid at 3 games…many opportunities blown again and bad iz

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hardcore

that is the smartest thing I have heard from you in week.

by ridgesee on May 9, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

closer

can we get gibby to close? He’s only, what, 65? Can’t be any worse.

by cardsfanincolo on May 9, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Injury or no

Izzy should be out as closer, and Wellemeyer just lost a win.

"because at the end of the day they still are the Chicago Cubs"

by rockin the red on May 9, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm gonna go cry in my franklin...

Wait, I don’t drink franklins. Maybe I should start.

sigh

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by ColinMacLeod on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hahahhah

not yet, ill wait till the all star break

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by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This has grown tiresome

Let’s shut him down

No reason not to bring Perez up. I’m tired of these “control” problem excuses. The results can’t be much worse then what we have seen the last few weeks.

by OCCardsFan on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so many rough losses this year

my heart hurts

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So true

Once the bottom of the 9th started with Izzy protecting only a one-run lead I knew the game was over. The scary thing: a small part of me was actually ROOTING for him to blow it so we could cut bait on him as closer now, in May, and hopefully save ourselves months of headaches ahead…

Brian Gunn

by briangunn on May 9, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I admit it

part of me was doing the same thing, but I didn’t want to come out and say it.

Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle."

by erik on May 9, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well shit

At least we get to look forward to the Bill Hall Mother’s Day walkoff special…

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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

fuck it

It could be worse, you could be on fire.

by themanthemyth on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Two pitches to get the first 2 outs

then he couldn’t get another out in the game.

AND ONCE AGAIN SKIP WAS COMPLETELY OUT OF POSITION!

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WOW

this is not Skip’s fault

by TheBirds on May 9, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Once again he was playing in the LCF gap for Rickie Weeks

and a ball hit straight away to LCF finds the wall. It’s not his fault he is out of position. For some reason we keep swinging him WAAAY over.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

First 3 game loosing streak of the year

2 of them the really really hard way

40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?

by Podlol on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Show of hands....

How many expected to lose this game, once the ninth inning began?

by tinstl on May 9, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

:hand raised:

Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle."

by erik on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Raises hands*

Izzy keeps throwing straight pitches over the middle of the plate.

by TheBirds on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this guy

It could be worse, you could be on fire.

by themanthemyth on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

/raises hand

actually, since about the 7th. i knew if they didn’t score again, it was done.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hand up, thumb down

Imagine the Cardinals winning it all in 2008

by Johnny64 on May 9, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

How many pitches did Franklin throw in the 8th?

5? 6? He should’ve been out there.

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on May 9, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hand

and starting to worry that the fall is coming

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 9, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hand down

I thought he had that for sure.

Really disappointing.

by liam on May 10, 2008 3:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

raises hand...late

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on May 10, 2008 4:04 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah

uh…ah…uh…um….yeah….well, that’s that.

Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle."

by erik on May 9, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What a waste

I don’t like dumping on Izzy, but this is no longer a syndrome, it is a disease. Why did we let Percival loose anyhow?

by kkkkathmandubirdsview on May 9, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

because he wanted to be a closer.

and we had a closer. Aargh.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is unbearable

K-Mac for closer. Jesus Christ.

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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

screw it

gimme aaron miles…

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bullshit

this game sucked. izzy sucks. try someone else, tony

by riotmute on May 9, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Izzy's ERA up to 7.47

At least its still less than one an inning

by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hey, he's a Boeing jumbo jet!

Sorry, trying to find some humor in this…

"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."

by MilCardFan on May 9, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He is done!

When I saw him in the pen i thought, “of shit we need insurance!”

by nybirdfan on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is 2006 regular season all over again..

Izzy costing the Cardinals game after game, and Tony continues to run him out there. It was a miracle they managed to still win the division with 83 games, I don’t think that will be the case this year.

Start Ludwick

by DiscoJer on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't know what to say

but there is no way in hell we will contend with Izzy as our closer and the lack of clutch hits. The free fall has begun I’m afraid unless there are some changes to the team.

by KYCards on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

repeat after me: "hey hey

ho ho

isringhausen’s got to go”

i appreciate his past with the team, but he has no future.

by sdesserman on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is 2006 all over again

I don’t care if Izzy feels like he’s making the right fucking pitches. Something is wrong. Yet Tony trots his ass out there to get his shit knocked around night after night. Something is wrong. How long until the team figures that out and tries something different. There’s a reason Izzy leads the team in losses. When you are the last Cardinal pitcher on the mound and you give up fucking game winning runs, you are going to accumulate losses.

by azruavatar on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He felt fine then, right?

Until he finally admitted he didn’t.

by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

right

just like Mark Mulder felt fine until they looked in his shoulder and realized that it was literally hanging by threads.

by azruavatar on May 9, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What I don't get

Is why Izzy, Springer, Mulder get so damn much rope but our younger pitchers get almost none. Except for KMac, I don’t get how TLR chooses who to use.

by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

drinking game

Izzy blows a save: finish the case.

by azruavatar on May 9, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i cant afford that much beer

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well, who would have predicted that?

Wait, I know—everyone!

maybe someone can figure out when the last time a Cards closer had three blown saves in a week

by tdawg on May 9, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Without doing the research...

i’d assume Izzy 2006

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on May 10, 2008 4:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ugh

Once is an exception, two is a trend, three is the norm, and four is….bad.

That game really hurt.

"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."

by MilCardFan on May 9, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that was actually five

sigh…

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

- .791 Win Expectency for Izzy

So he didn’t lose the came all by himself, just 80% of it in one inning.

Curse you Endy!!!!!

by boisebird on May 9, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Can we get La Russa to resign now?

I’m sure the org can find someone that isn’t dumb enough to bring in Izzy with a 1-run lead.

Like the potted plants in the f*ing home clubhouse, for instance.

by craig3410 on May 9, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

don't over react

we are one fair way decent closer away from contention

mattnj

by mattnj on May 9, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We're in contention with the worst closer in baseball

Imagine what Percival, Rivera, Papelbon, etc. would do for us?

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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

with a decent closer

we haven’t even lost 10 games yet!

mattnj

by mattnj on May 9, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is what is bull**** about the closer role

Izzy is struggling at yet we put him in a 1 run game in the 9th because we think his job is to get saves instead of getting batters out. Your “closer” should be the “best pitcher in the BP atm”

by TheBirds on May 9, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I agree

But it was actually Franklin who drew the ace role tonight, by getting out Cameron, Braun, and Fielder in the the 8th. Izzy didn’t even have the toughest assignment on the night and he still managed to let the game slip away.

Brian Gunn

by briangunn on May 9, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i completely agree with this

I just don’t see why the ninth inning is any different that the 8th, or the 7th. it’s the same monkeys with the same lumber trying to do the same thing. Any pitcher able to pitch in the majors should be able to save 9 games out of 10.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I want the Mac

or heck, I’ll even take Villone at this point

Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle."

by erik on May 9, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Amen

I would hope after tonight Izzy has lost his spot as the closer. Time to audition somebody else.

by KYCards on May 9, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ain't gonna happen

Izzy’s Tony’s guy, and he’ll ride him all the way out of contention.

"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."

by MilCardFan on May 9, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then Dewitt, Mo or somebody..

Needs to let Tony go if he isn’t going to put the best guy out there to give us a win.

by KYCards on May 9, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ain't gonna happen

Tony is to Dewitt as Izzy is to Tony

Start Ludwick

by DiscoJer on May 9, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

might've already dunnit

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

PLEASE IZZY JUST ADMIT IT...

YOU ARE HURTING…BE A MAN ABOUT IT

DON’T GO OUT THERE WITH A BROKEN WING!

mattnj

by mattnj on May 9, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Regardless of whether he's hurt or not

He needs to ditch the “cutter”...it doesn’t cut, and it sits in at about 88 mph over the heart of the plate.

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
Track 'em Tigers - An SB Nation Blog for Auburn Tigers fans

by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm gonna go put my head in a black plastic bag.

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We Must Remember

the entire NL Central is going through this right now, especially the Brew Crew. Chances are the favor will be returned to us at some point this year.

"because at the end of the day they still are the Chicago Cubs"

by rockin the red on May 9, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So?

Just because every other closer in the division sucks doesn’t mean we should go along with the trend.

One or two blown saves is one thing; that happens and that’s part of baseball. But there have been three or four games that the Cardinals have let slip away, and it has cost them the chance to put an early hammer lock on the division.

I love Izzy, but he’s either hurt or done. It saddens me to say it, but the Cardinals need to seriously look at putting him on the DL and seeing what McClellan can do.

You can’t win the division in April and May, but you can definitely lose it.

"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."

by MilCardFan on May 9, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Closers

I didn’t mean to imply that we should go along with the trend, I was merely pointing out that this is the same thing our opponents are going through too. Chances are we’ll have the same kind of luck against Gagne or Wood. I really hope we fix our problem so we can solely capitalize on theirs.

"because at the end of the day they still are the Chicago Cubs"

by rockin the red on May 9, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Toughest because

LB called this in his post yesterday. Come on Tony. Be smarter than the Blogs.

by tinstl on May 9, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So is TLR just doing it

So Izzy can reach 300? Is it worth 10 more blown saves for him to get to that milestone?

by bjork24 on May 9, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Izzy did NOT throw a single off-speed pitch.

Every pitch was 89-91 mph, with the exception of 1 pitch that didn’t register on the FSN radar…. Nothing but fastballs – most of which were right over the plate. No slider. Not one single curveball despite the fact that he has (had?) a great curve.

I understand back-to-basics, blah blah blah…. But if you throw cut-fastball after cut-fastball after cut-fastball you’re going to lose every time. Especially when they ain’t cutting!

by Kirkwood on May 9, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The breakdown.

Pitches in play:

1: Cutter hit to 3rd, out one
#2: Fastball ripped to center and saved by Ank
#3: Cutter, single
#4: Fastball, single
#5: Cutter, ripped for a single to win the game

He simply doesn’t have anything, except the curve he won’t throw, that will get a swing and miss.

by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Tony says...

If Tony says “Sometimes you just have to tip your hat” and “we got beat with our best,” I will yell at the tv.

Clearly Izzy is not “our best.” He hasn’t been “our best” all year long. This is pathetic because these are games we should win. I can handle a 9-3 loss when we our starter has a bad game but when we are in a position to win, we have to win.

by Brownale on May 9, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TONY!

After two straight base hits or 4 hard hit balls, how can you not have someone up in the pen. So, after the walk you can pull your worst pitcher!

by chicagocardfan on May 9, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shoulder

Velocity is down and he won’t throw his curve, which puts more torque on the shoulder on the follow through.

"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."

by MilCardFan on May 9, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Could be what BP calls a cascade.

If his hip was bothering him and he tried to adjust by using his arm or shouder more he may have hurt something else.

This is the same thing that ended mulder. Hip went, then he hurt his back adjusting to that, then started throwing with his shoulder more to adjust. We know how that ended.

by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Franklin locked down the heart of Milwaukee's order

The guy has been nails, for the most part, since he’s worn the Birds on the Bat.

"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."

by MilCardFan on May 9, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and we can make many drinking games on it

like we need them with loses like this though

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this just in

reyes has walked 3 in 3+ innings. in AAA. im sad.

by longhornscardinals on May 9, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

and has now been pulled

without recording an out in the 3rd.

current line: 3IP, 0R, 3BB, 3K, 4H for 7 base runners in 3 innings.

he’s also currently responsible for the runner on first.

by longhornscardinals on May 9, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't be too sad. The run didn't score.

The walks, I don’t like, the hits I don’t like. Managing to get out of jams doesn’t hurt as far as being a better pitcher. He did that, including Mather throwing out a runner at home. Just hope he can get a little sharper after adjusting back into the starting rotation. Anyway, his job is trade chip, and it isn’t his fault they haven’t traded him. Just don’t pay him no mind. He’s not a factor.

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on May 10, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Argh, its not just bad pitch selection.

Since they were hammering 2 of his 3 pitches.

by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

even the second out

than ankiel caught could easily have been a double.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm done with this team until something is done about Izzy

what’s the point of enjoying a game for 3 hours only to have it ruined in 10 minutes by an incompetent closer?

I know he’s done alot for St. Louis, but he’s done, and should no longer be allowed to pitch in the 9th.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 9, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Tony says he wants to talk to Izzy about it.

The guys on FSN say that Tony’s asked him, and Izzy says he’s all right, so he keeps getting sent out there.

Now how smart is it to listen to the guy whose job depends on Playing, rather than what the results are, or what you can see with your eyes.

Time for some managers to quit doing things the old fashioned way and think a little outside the box. Remember the ‘06 playoffs? Some of your best unconventional thinking, there, TLR.

by tinstl on May 9, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love it...

rather than sending a player who clearly has something wrong with him physically to a doctor, they just ask him how he’s feeling.

This team isn’t even in the 20th century in terms of medicine, much less 21st.

Start Ludwick

by DiscoJer on May 9, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Results matter more

It doesn’t matter why he isn’t getting them, but until he can we need someone else to do the job. Its not like we won’t have innings for him to figure it out. They just don’t have to be high leverage innings.

by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

or MLB innings

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2006 all over again

How many months of Izzy going out there blowing save after save and making EVERY stupid game interesting and just generally sucking. And then finally he says “i’m hurting” and we think back to how “brave” he was to pitch while injured (and losing games left and right).

5 blown saves, a 7.5 ERA (and going up every game) ... Izzy is just not the person I want to see out there. Neither is Glaus… ugh!

Tony is so afraid to “mix it up” and break with tradition and bat the pitcher 8th. Well time to mix it up again… and stop using the closer just because he’s the closer.

by redbird2006 on May 10, 2008 4:00 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is why i have no problem booing izzy

that’s wonderful that he has saved so many games for us, but now he is blatantly hurting the team and is too stubborn to do the right thing and step down.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 9, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Glaus is out for any length of time...

we are in trouble. Brendan Ryan is pretty terrible over there at 3rd. Glaus may not be able to hit a beach ball with a tennis racket, but atleast he can field his position.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 9, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

larussa actually seems to think...

brendan is much better at third and second than at short; for whatever that’s worth…

by RedbirdAvenger on May 9, 2008 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well, TLR see's him play much more than I do

so maybe it was just a couple bad games for Ryan, the errors probably wouldn’t of been so magnified but each time the opposing team has gone on to score runs.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 10, 2008 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damn you Izzy

I’m so mad at you, and then I watch the clubhouse interviews and the damn guy looks like he is about to cry and so incredibly frustrated and now I feel guilty. Please just retire or become a bullpen coach or something.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 9, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Guilty?

I don’t feel guilty. The guy gets paid 8 mm+ a year to play baseball. He’s made tons of money in his career. If he can’t perform up to the level we pay him for, he should retire.

If I had such a huge dropoff in performance, my boss would certainly can my ass.

by rencelas on May 9, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i know, i still feel guilty though

it’s stupid, but it’s empathy.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 9, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The roasting of Izzy

is about to start on KTRS extra innings show..if anybody wants to listen online.

by KYCards on May 9, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wellemeyer is making a real case for himself as a key starter on this team

I was liking the thought of him as a closer, but he’s been pretty damn valuable starting games this year.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 9, 2008 11:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ugh, Rasmus is hitting under the mendoza line now

Would someone just lie to the kid and tell him he has a chance of making the major league team, if that is what will make him stop sucking.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 9, 2008 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He was not sharp....he walked three, gave up 4 hits....but no runs

He hasn’t pitced regularly or even very much since spring training. Or maybe they finally killed him…...

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on May 10, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Other options for closer

So, what are our options for closer beyond Izzy? If he cannot do the job, is it handed over to McClellan or Franklin? Does one of the young guys get called up? Are their adequate options outside of the organization? If so, who is a trading chip and how much would Mo be able to give up to bring someone in?

Tough situation, glad I’m not the one who has to figure it out.

Ichiro, Andruw, or Torii for CF '08

by scoot on May 10, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If you dare....pick up the phone and ask for Mr. Beane........

See what he wants for Huston Street…....dealing pitching with the A’s is a big time risk, though.

I wish they would just call someone from the AAA team.

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on May 10, 2008 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Huston Street

has gotten off to a rough start as well. That said, it’s not near as bad as Izzy’s.

by VORPistoonerdy on May 10, 2008 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Actually, Ron Villone has been the best bullpen guy lately.

Let him handle the 9th for a week or ten days, let Izzy get some down time, see if he can’t work out his issues.

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on May 10, 2008 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Silver lining

Jeff Gordon’s column got trashed on firejoemorgan.com. Always good to see a little local flavor on FJM.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 10, 2008 12:55 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good for FJM

That guy is major tool, and deserves the ridicule.

There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

by Mr Clean on May 10, 2008 4:54 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sigh

Why can’t we clone K-Mac a few times and call them L-Mac, N-Mac, Z-Mac and have a staff full of Macs..

The 9th inning has now had more runs plate than 7 other innings. I don’t know how that rates in the mlb as a whole, but as a Cards fan that fk’n blows.

How many bullpen losses have we had this year? One too damn many if you ask me.

I’ve backed Izzy through his early struggles, but after these last 2 or 3 outings, I’m out.

If it were me I’d go aggressive on our 40man and 60 day dl all of those “medical mysteries” that we have trolling on it that clearly aren’t going to do anything between now and the all-star break. Then I’d fill it with some of the promising bullpen options (perez and flores (despite last night, has a nice k/bb ratio, era, whip). keeping in mind that worrell and jimenez are already on it.

I’m not 100% on the technicalities of shifting on and off 40man and what it does overall, but why is Hawksworth on it when his numbers… um, suck at the moment.

Then start shifting as our bullpen tires out. This has got to stop, too many damn times we’re having excellent quality starts only to lose them in the last couple of innings.

Don’t know about anyone else, but when Oct runs around if we’re sitting a couple games out of first, as a fan and a Cards loyalist, I’ll be pissed.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 10, 2008 2:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

While not clones

there is nothing preventing us from calling up Perez or Motte, except that Springer/Parisi have to go. These two guys have ridiculous strikeout:BB rates. I’d rather watch them struggle through than Izzy.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 10, 2008 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wish

Tony would tear a page out of the winning formula of ‘06. We won the World Series that year precisely b/c La Russa, in the postseason, stopped making decisions based on contracts, or predetermined roles, or reputation. Instead he went with results, and that meant turning the bullpen over to the youngsters. So far this year he’s half-learned that lesson by giving so much leeway to McClellan. Time to go all the way and give Perez a shot in place of Izzy.

Brian Gunn

by briangunn on May 10, 2008 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Exactly

I mean, let’s place Izzy on DL, hell, make him throw simulated innings during bp to try getting something back, and while he’s doing that see if someone can take his job.

Personally I’d drop Springer easily and bring in Flores (bias, I like what I see) even though it means another lefty. I’d love to see Perez, I’d even like to see Worrell (who I think would be a nice setup man down the road).. imagine soon having a worrell – perez 8th and 9th. Yum, soak in that goodness.

Having issues is one thing, but having two outs and can’t get anything on 4 straight batters. Is BS from a closer, i’m tired of witnessing the collapse

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 10, 2008 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Another thing

I contend that we need to go to our farm for this. K-Mac shouldnt be the answer.

Too many times we’ve needed to win the game earlier than the 9th and hes came in and shut the threat down, I don’t want to lose that. With the way our starters tend to fade fast, that’s a scary scenario to lose a shutdown guy.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 10, 2008 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah...

That was pretty craptastic.

I alllllmost turned off the Tivo when the FSN camera cut to Izzy warming up in the pen with a 1 run lead. Why he didn’t stick with Franklin (after, what…8 pitches?) is beyond me. Well, okay…that’s not true. To Tony’s peculiarly rigid thinking, if it’s a save situation, that means Izzy.

I dare say we all knew what was coming. Did any Brewers batter even swing and miss a single one of his pitches? Hell, did they even foul one off, or were they all rifled between the lines? I can’t recall. It was just a cavalcade of hard hit balls. If only someone with a blog had written an article analyzing Izzy’s obvious decline and his inability to get batters to swing and miss…and then if only someone else from a local paper had copied it!

I love what Izzy has done for us over the years, but he’s not right. He’s no longer nails. On the same sad day that Edmonds was released by the Padres, I hope Tony makes a move with another Cardinals legacy…his closer. Izzy is not fooling anyone any more. If Tony won’t do it, I hope Mo will. This is not good baseball.

There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

by Mr Clean on May 10, 2008 5:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's time for Perez to get a shot

I don’t know what else he has to prove at AAA. His numbers are sick. Call him up.

by mojowo11 on May 10, 2008 5:44 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 10, 2008 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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