Game 37 overflow
i'm wearing a hawaiian shirt, standing in front of a cash box, ringing up purchases at my kids' school fund-raiser. my drinks are free, but i can't drink ---- because i'm driving 3 or 4 drunk dads home. my life sucks, in other words. only a st louis victory can salvage anything of value from this evening; don't let me down fellahs. at the time i programmed this post, the cards led 1-0 and had the sacks jammed, nobody out in the top of the second, with wellemeyer batting; win expectancy 75 percent.
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i want a win! lets go redbirds!
I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!
by dangpenguins on May 9, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This team is kind of ridiculous
great in OBP, but we counteract that by NOT hitting HRs or XBH and grounding into a TON of DPs.
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
it's like we're everywhere
and no where
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
an enigma wrapped in a pretzel
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mmm, Enigma filled pretzels......
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on May 9, 2008 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ultimate
base-clogging team.
Thank God Dusty’s not out manager.
by Phizzle on May 9, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
As I posted before this new thread
Mo needs to find us an RBI guy in a month or so if we are going to make a serious run for the division this year.
by KYCards on May 9, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just need glaus to BECOME that rbi guy
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How much longer
should they give him before they need to start looking for possible trades?
by KYCards on May 9, 2008 10:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
out errrored the brewers 3-1
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
time to yank welly
nt
It could be worse, you could be on fire.
by themanthemyth on May 9, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I say we leave him in...
It’s easy to say after he gets out of it.
by Evilfrog on May 9, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
0 BB by Welley
Man he seems to be avoiding walks this season.
by StLHugo on May 9, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Its been said before, control is the only skill that improves
for pitchers as they age (in general)
Its very possible this is a real change in his skill set. If so we got a steal.
by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that's a really good comment
and it seems to be true. i have been really impressed with wellemeyer all year long. i just wish he could pitch deeper into games but maybe that is something that takes time? idk
by riotmute on May 9, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
huge play there
have a chance
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by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If we were up to bat, this would be a taylor made
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
there ya go!!!
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Let's keep this rolling
No way we score any runs in the 7th…
by cloistermaximus on May 9, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
“a potbelly stove in the middle of the basketball court”
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hell yeah
atta kid welley
way to get out of that one
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by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
In the immortal words of Mike Shannon
Come on you Redbirds!
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Now it's a battle of the bullpens
Who’s is worse? Ours or theirs?
by cloistermaximus on May 9, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This was a debate
just the other day.
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I recall
And I think initially I thought theirs was worse.. Then Izzy melted down again, coupled with Franklin giving up some runs.. now I’m not so sure.
by cloistermaximus on May 9, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Theirs. No doubt about that.
The closers, however…
by StanTheManFan on May 9, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'd take izzy over gagne.
but that’s not saying much.
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah, c’mon now
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
all right all....
I’m out franklins to drink on the town. Good luck GO CARDS!
by poohrat on May 9, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
dunc sighting
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Chris Duncan should go back to closing is eyes
and just swinging. He might just get lucky.
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah
anything would help at this point
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
uhoh dunc
not goin yr way dude
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That Pepsi commerical is going to Merriweather's head
he keeps calling these checkswings strikes when the hitter’s clearly aren’t going through the zone.
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
of Duncy boy...
when is it your going to find whatever it is your looking for?
I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!
by dangpenguins on May 9, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Izz2 cranks one
and it floats out to a short CF. ugh
by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 10:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Colby Ks
Colby starts off the day with a K for Memphis. Come on guys give Reyes a W
by StLHugo on May 9, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
here here!
I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!
by dangpenguins on May 9, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barden Singles
Come on Mather. Lets start this game with a lead.
by StLHugo on May 9, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bunt?
Miles must be using that blazing speed.
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Hey Tone...
...I’m just gonna lay one down here, m’kay?”
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, he is a "player-coach"...
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i miss fernando vina
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
before or after the steroids
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by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How long before we see Mather?
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by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone know if Pineiro will be ready to go
for his next start? If not, who gets it? Parisi pitched 2 innings yesterday, what is his availibilty to start that game if Pineiro can’t go?
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he's listed
on the cards site and ready to go.
I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!
by dangpenguins on May 9, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The AAA starter on Monday was....
Mulder….ouch
by StLHugo on May 9, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rico Washington swinging on a 3-0 count?
Does he not know he is RICO FUCKING WASHINGTON?
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
troy goes on DL??
does uncle rico come back???
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by dangpenguins on May 9, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Mather
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by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wouldn’t mind seeing that happen
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I mean
if he’s on the DL
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I sure as hell hope not
how good is Mather’s glove at 3B?
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd asume its decent
seeing as how he was a ss before he filled out.
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by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How strange would it be if Freese was called up
the day after Edmonds was released?
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
heh
I think Freese is going to be a badass
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Freese isnt on the 40 man roster
our choices are Mather, Uncle Rico, Hoffpauir, and Barden. I dont think Hoff can play 3rd.
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by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
barden isn't either
but we have a couple of guys who could be moved to the 60-day DL.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barden then
Barden then….since he is a 3B as well.
by StLHugo on May 9, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Reyes begins his game with a Walk
Not smart kid.. not smart
by cloistermaximus on May 9, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reyes, starts with a BB
Come on man don’t walk AAA batters.
by StLHugo on May 9, 2008 10:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
give hime an inning to de-duncan
and rember its ok to pitch his way
by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
bizzam!
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many good Reyes starts before he's traded?
by akaitori on May 9, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone watching?
Minor League gameday doesn’t have speed, how hard is he pumping?
by StLHugo on May 9, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just got home from dinner and mother's day shopping
Let’s get a few more in just for the hell of it. Not that I don’t trust Franklin and Izzy or anything….
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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 10:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
way to work it ank
plz lets get one yadi
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by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
crap
all indians no chiefs
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Get your money down now
who coughs up the lead, Franklin in the 8th or Izzy in the 9th.
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why not both?
Franklin in the 8th, we get it back in the top of the 9th off of Gagne, then lose in the bottom of the 9th
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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn
i really get the feeling 3 runs isn’t going to win this.
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What, you don't have faith in a 1-run lead
With Izzy and Franklin pitching?
by cloistermaximus on May 9, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
on the flip side.
if the pen holds this, thats a huge boost.
I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!
by dangpenguins on May 9, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
memphis up 2-0
on a mark johnson single, hoff and d’angelo scored. reyes hitting now. top 2nd.
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
at least we have the lead!
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
by 82Special on May 9, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hold 'em
StL
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
crack open the franklins
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 10:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I should have left the house by now
but this game somehow compels me. dammit
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
every game this year, it seems
I’m almost exhausted from watching this crap. hour after hour, night after night, of compelling, stressful baseball.
Can we please, just ONCE, win a game by 10 runs?
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watching both the MLB and Milb
I am not sure which team would win a MIF hitting deathmatch. Barden and Hoff just might be able to outhit Izz2 and Miles.
Ok, on second thought, its really not even close…
by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
one down
franklin you crazy basteech
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
vereh nice
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ok vote.
leave franklin in. bring Izzy in.
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by dangpenguins on May 9, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good Lord
That shot by Fielder was a Franklin if I’ve ever seen one.
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lucky it was right at the Ludinator
So…3 outs left.. Why not let Frank get a 2 inning save?
by cloistermaximus on May 9, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've now seen this posted a couple times; what does Franklin mean?
by riotmute on May 9, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meaning
you have to be drunk to handle some of the contact he gives up.
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i believe it was proposed by
“cloistermaximus”. He proposed that we make a drinking game out of Franklin’s pitching prowess as early as april 5th...
Since then it has grown in popularity and now any time an alcoholic beverage is consumed, it is called a franklin, and any time an event in a ball game causes you to be nervous, it is considered worthy of consuming a franklin.
I predict that all of VEB-dome will be in a recovery program by July at this rate.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Might be OK on this one. Fielder doesn't eat meatballs now
by akaitori on May 9, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He still almost hit a hole through
Ludwick’s midsection.
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Serious Question...Is Dunc still eating meat?? See where I'm going with this...
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by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ludwick
starting OF
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Prince Fielder= Largest singles hitter in the history of mankind
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by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy jeez
That was quick, Ryan! Do that every time.
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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Franklins
I have a fridge full for the late innings. But that 8th was great. Hardly had time to get a Franklin. Good thing, since it is still early morning!
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on May 9, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've gone from CTA
to cabbin it for this game. gonna cost me some dinero
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
smart man
i just moved from chicago. cta is the worst!
by riotmute on May 9, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking about riding my bike
with a ton of gear on my back. haven’t done that since last summer. not trustin the chicago drivers right now
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way
What happened to Glaus?
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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hbp
left elbow – tried to continue, left game.
by sdesserman on May 9, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hit in elbow in 1st AB
stayed in the game but in 2nd AB looked like Rolen circa 2005.
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is he gonna be ok?
Or are we looking at DL time?
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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You just play one on TV
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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hey
do you go to the nyc cardinal group things?
by riotmute on May 9, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i haven't so far.
always ended up having to work. but i’d really like to at some point. maybe this tuesday?
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah i might go
i’ve been a couple times. it’s fun but that bar sucks ass
by riotmute on May 9, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our middle infield...
...is the thing I can do without.
by WastedTalent on May 9, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Miles...
...I’m talking to you
by Merry CRasmus on May 10, 2008 2:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Izzy2 squares up another pitch
pitcher picks it up and tosses to 1st. I miss having a SS for which a long drive might reach the seats, or at least warning track.
by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
gotta have my sixth franklin
before I go play guitar somewhere
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Coming up in the bottom of the 9th
vs Izzy:
Hart: 1 for 3, 0 K
Hall: 0 for 12, 0 K
Hardy: 1 for 9, 0 K
If he doesn’t lock this down, his hip is toast.
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I
can’t watch this without a massive dose of Franklins.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on May 9, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
See how far he can toss a cutter. I'd guess about 420 feet
by akaitori on May 9, 2008 10:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't say the C-word
Knucklecurves, Izzy. Knucklecurves.
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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miles makes the play at 3rd
throws to Izzy for the cut and gets the out at 1st on the groundball.
Good job.
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he looked great on that
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Apparently, Izzy and Franklin are in a hurry to go get their own Franklins
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by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Colby
Who? We have a CF.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on May 9, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lets go redbirds…
come on izzy…back to basics
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by jodicards on May 9, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
shhhhhhhhhhhh
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by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 10:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
positive thinking
"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." Bob Gibson
by jodicards on May 9, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I have confidence that Ank can pull it back in.
But might need to make one hell of a catch after this cutter.
by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 Ks for reyes through 2
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
As I said, de-duncan'ed
Funny how if Mulder had this start at AAA he would be starting in the MLB 5 days.
by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm going to vomit
Too much for my nerves!
by bjork24 on May 9, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gulp
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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Someone want to charge the field and break Izzy's pitching arm?
ANYTHING to keep La Russa from using him!
Your first thought when your team’s closer comes in should not be “oh shit”!
by craig3410 on May 9, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
izzy crazy?
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm warming the sake if anyone's in the neighborhood
by akaitori on May 9, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Have these last two singles...
been liners?
by WastedTalent on May 9, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hang in there Izzy
Cheer with a franklin, don’t cry in it.
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by ColinMacLeod on May 9, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Doesn't need pop if we walk him.
ugh
by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If you can't get Kendall out
You don’t deserve to close
by cloistermaximus on May 9, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
You mean .361 OBP Jason Kendall?
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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His fastball velo is decreasing
It looks like
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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think those are cutters based on movement
They just are not moving
by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH
"because at the end of the day they still are the Chicago Cubs"
by rockin the red on May 9, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw this comment and through Izzy gave up a walk-off. We’re still alive with the walk.
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by ColinMacLeod on May 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
here it is
talk him up albert
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by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How can you walk someone who is 2-17 lifetime against you??
?
by BSell81 on May 9, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is ridiculous
2 outs and he lets three on
by OCCardsFan on May 9, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gamedayshows the last two balls as strikes?
were they close?
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
by Podlol on May 9, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ball 4 wasn't close.
almost got away from yadi.
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Where were pitches 3 and 4?
Looked like meatballs on GameDay.
by WastedTalent on May 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Tony let's Izzy pitch with the bases loaded
We will lose.
by cloistermaximus on May 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How about parisi now?
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
by Podlol on May 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i swear to god
if he walks in a run here i will cry
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by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
well, thats worse
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by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
can we make izzy
a one batter specialist?
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on May 9, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hes done
this is redic
It could be worse, you could be on fire.
by themanthemyth on May 9, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sadf;kjlhadsghagkjag
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Un-fucking-believable
When will LaRussa pull the plug on this guy?
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hate to say it
but yeah, it’s going downhill fast. everyone has him figured out
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope that was rhetorical...
because there’s probably another month of this, based on the 2006 model…
"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver
by player2bnamedl8r on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually
I hope the plug is pulled soon…but with Tony’s history, I doubt it.
"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver
by player2bnamedl8r on May 9, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in the off season
skid at 3 games…many opportunities blown again and bad iz
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
closer
can we get gibby to close? He’s only, what, 65? Can’t be any worse.
by cardsfanincolo on May 9, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Until Izzy is removed from the closer role
I refuse to watch any more games
by cloistermaximus on May 9, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Injury or no
Izzy should be out as closer, and Wellemeyer just lost a win.
"because at the end of the day they still are the Chicago Cubs"
by rockin the red on May 9, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna go cry in my franklin...
Wait, I don’t drink franklins. Maybe I should start.
sigh
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by ColinMacLeod on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sayonara - time to commit sepuku. Anyone want to be my second?
by akaitori on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
hahahhah
not yet, ill wait till the all star break
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This has grown tiresome
Let’s shut him down
No reason not to bring Perez up. I’m tired of these “control” problem excuses. The results can’t be much worse then what we have seen the last few weeks.
by OCCardsFan on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so many rough losses this year
my heart hurts
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sadly, i saw that coming from at least 2 innings away
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So true
Once the bottom of the 9th started with Izzy protecting only a one-run lead I knew the game was over. The scary thing: a small part of me was actually ROOTING for him to blow it so we could cut bait on him as closer now, in May, and hopefully save ourselves months of headaches ahead…
Brian Gunn
by briangunn on May 9, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I admit it
part of me was doing the same thing, but I didn’t want to come out and say it.
Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle."
by erik on May 9, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well shit
At least we get to look forward to the Bill Hall Mother’s Day walkoff special…
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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
fuck it
It could be worse, you could be on fire.
by themanthemyth on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Two pitches to get the first 2 outs
then he couldn’t get another out in the game.
AND ONCE AGAIN SKIP WAS COMPLETELY OUT OF POSITION!
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Once again he was playing in the LCF gap for Rickie Weeks
and a ball hit straight away to LCF finds the wall. It’s not his fault he is out of position. For some reason we keep swinging him WAAAY over.
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
First 3 game loosing streak of the year
2 of them the really really hard way
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
by Podlol on May 9, 2008 10:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Show of hands....
How many expected to lose this game, once the ninth inning began?
by tinstl on May 9, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
:hand raised:
Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle."
by erik on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Raises hands*
Izzy keeps throwing straight pitches over the middle of the plate.
by TheBirds on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this guy
It could be worse, you could be on fire.
by themanthemyth on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
/raises hand
actually, since about the 7th. i knew if they didn’t score again, it was done.
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hand up, thumb down
Imagine the Cardinals winning it all in 2008
by Johnny64 on May 9, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How many pitches did Franklin throw in the 8th?
5? 6? He should’ve been out there.
"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver
by player2bnamedl8r on May 9, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hand
and starting to worry that the fall is coming
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on May 9, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
raises hand...late
"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on May 10, 2008 4:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you know what though.....you can't strand 16 and keep them in the game when you have chances to blow them out...
by eazy_four on May 9, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
say we score 4 more
he still can’t CLOSE games
It could be worse, you could be on fire.
by themanthemyth on May 9, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ah
uh…ah…uh…um….yeah….well, that’s that.
Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle."
by erik on May 9, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What a waste
I don’t like dumping on Izzy, but this is no longer a syndrome, it is a disease. Why did we let Percival loose anyhow?
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on May 9, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
because he wanted to be a closer.
and we had a closer. Aargh.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is unbearable
K-Mac for closer. Jesus Christ.
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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
bullshit
this game sucked. izzy sucks. try someone else, tony
by riotmute on May 9, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Izzy's ERA up to 7.47
At least its still less than one an inning
by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey, he's a Boeing jumbo jet!
Sorry, trying to find some humor in this…
"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
by MilCardFan on May 9, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He is done!
When I saw him in the pen i thought, “of shit we need insurance!”
by nybirdfan on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is 2006 regular season all over again..
Izzy costing the Cardinals game after game, and Tony continues to run him out there. It was a miracle they managed to still win the division with 83 games, I don’t think that will be the case this year.
Start Ludwick
by DiscoJer on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bringing in Izzy is the definition of insanity
mattnj
by mattnj on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Don't know what to say
but there is no way in hell we will contend with Izzy as our closer and the lack of clutch hits. The free fall has begun I’m afraid unless there are some changes to the team.
by KYCards on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
repeat after me: "hey hey
ho ho
isringhausen’s got to go”
i appreciate his past with the team, but he has no future.
by sdesserman on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is 2006 all over again
I don’t care if Izzy feels like he’s making the right fucking pitches. Something is wrong. Yet Tony trots his ass out there to get his shit knocked around night after night. Something is wrong. How long until the team figures that out and tries something different. There’s a reason Izzy leads the team in losses. When you are the last Cardinal pitcher on the mound and you give up fucking game winning runs, you are going to accumulate losses.
by azruavatar on May 9, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He felt fine then, right?
Until he finally admitted he didn’t.
by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right
just like Mark Mulder felt fine until they looked in his shoulder and realized that it was literally hanging by threads.
by azruavatar on May 9, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What I don't get
Is why Izzy, Springer, Mulder get so damn much rope but our younger pitchers get almost none. Except for KMac, I don’t get how TLR chooses who to use.
by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
drinking game
Izzy blows a save: finish the case.
by azruavatar on May 9, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i cant afford that much beer
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, who would have predicted that?
Wait, I know—everyone!
maybe someone can figure out when the last time a Cards closer had three blown saves in a week
by tdawg on May 9, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Without doing the research...
i’d assume Izzy 2006
"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on May 10, 2008 4:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ugh
Once is an exception, two is a trend, three is the norm, and four is….bad.
That game really hurt.
"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
by MilCardFan on May 9, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that was actually five
sigh…
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
- .791 Win Expectency for Izzy
So he didn’t lose the came all by himself, just 80% of it in one inning.
Curse you Endy!!!!!
by boisebird on May 9, 2008 10:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Can we get La Russa to resign now?
I’m sure the org can find someone that isn’t dumb enough to bring in Izzy with a 1-run lead.
Like the potted plants in the f*ing home clubhouse, for instance.
by craig3410 on May 9, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
don't over react
we are one fair way decent closer away from contention
mattnj
by mattnj on May 9, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We're in contention with the worst closer in baseball
Imagine what Percival, Rivera, Papelbon, etc. would do for us?
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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
with a decent closer
we haven’t even lost 10 games yet!
mattnj
by mattnj on May 9, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This is what is bull**** about the closer role
Izzy is struggling at yet we put him in a 1 run game in the 9th because we think his job is to get saves instead of getting batters out. Your “closer” should be the “best pitcher in the BP atm”
by TheBirds on May 9, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I agree
But it was actually Franklin who drew the ace role tonight, by getting out Cameron, Braun, and Fielder in the the 8th. Izzy didn’t even have the toughest assignment on the night and he still managed to let the game slip away.
Brian Gunn
by briangunn on May 9, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i completely agree with this
I just don’t see why the ninth inning is any different that the 8th, or the 7th. it’s the same monkeys with the same lumber trying to do the same thing. Any pitcher able to pitch in the majors should be able to save 9 games out of 10.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I want the Mac
or heck, I’ll even take Villone at this point
Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle."
by erik on May 9, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ain't gonna happen
Izzy’s Tony’s guy, and he’ll ride him all the way out of contention.
"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
by MilCardFan on May 9, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Then Dewitt, Mo or somebody..
Needs to let Tony go if he isn’t going to put the best guy out there to give us a win.
by KYCards on May 9, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ain't gonna happen
Tony is to Dewitt as Izzy is to Tony
Start Ludwick
by DiscoJer on May 9, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
might've already dunnit
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
PLEASE IZZY JUST ADMIT IT...
YOU ARE HURTING…BE A MAN ABOUT IT
DON’T GO OUT THERE WITH A BROKEN WING!
mattnj
by mattnj on May 9, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Regardless of whether he's hurt or not
He needs to ditch the “cutter”...it doesn’t cut, and it sits in at about 88 mph over the heart of the plate.
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by Mr Redbird on May 9, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm gonna go put my head in a black plastic bag.
The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.
by coachnick39 on May 9, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
We Must Remember
the entire NL Central is going through this right now, especially the Brew Crew. Chances are the favor will be returned to us at some point this year.
"because at the end of the day they still are the Chicago Cubs"
by rockin the red on May 9, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So?
Just because every other closer in the division sucks doesn’t mean we should go along with the trend.
One or two blown saves is one thing; that happens and that’s part of baseball. But there have been three or four games that the Cardinals have let slip away, and it has cost them the chance to put an early hammer lock on the division.
I love Izzy, but he’s either hurt or done. It saddens me to say it, but the Cardinals need to seriously look at putting him on the DL and seeing what McClellan can do.
You can’t win the division in April and May, but you can definitely lose it.
"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
by MilCardFan on May 9, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Closers
I didn’t mean to imply that we should go along with the trend, I was merely pointing out that this is the same thing our opponents are going through too. Chances are we’ll have the same kind of luck against Gagne or Wood. I really hope we fix our problem so we can solely capitalize on theirs.
"because at the end of the day they still are the Chicago Cubs"
by rockin the red on May 9, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Toughest because
LB called this in his post yesterday. Come on Tony. Be smarter than the Blogs.
by tinstl on May 9, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So is TLR just doing it
So Izzy can reach 300? Is it worth 10 more blown saves for him to get to that milestone?
by bjork24 on May 9, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Izzy did NOT throw a single off-speed pitch.
Every pitch was 89-91 mph, with the exception of 1 pitch that didn’t register on the FSN radar…. Nothing but fastballs – most of which were right over the plate. No slider. Not one single curveball despite the fact that he has (had?) a great curve.
I understand back-to-basics, blah blah blah…. But if you throw cut-fastball after cut-fastball after cut-fastball you’re going to lose every time. Especially when they ain’t cutting!
by Kirkwood on May 9, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The breakdown.
Pitches in play:
1: Cutter hit to 3rd, out one#2: Fastball ripped to center and saved by Ank
#3: Cutter, single
#4: Fastball, single
#5: Cutter, ripped for a single to win the game
He simply doesn’t have anything, except the curve he won’t throw, that will get a swing and miss.
by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Tony says...
If Tony says “Sometimes you just have to tip your hat” and “we got beat with our best,” I will yell at the tv.
Clearly Izzy is not “our best.” He hasn’t been “our best” all year long. This is pathetic because these are games we should win. I can handle a 9-3 loss when we our starter has a bad game but when we are in a position to win, we have to win.
by Brownale on May 9, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
TONY!
After two straight base hits or 4 hard hit balls, how can you not have someone up in the pen. So, after the walk you can pull your worst pitcher!
by chicagocardfan on May 9, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
elbow, shoulder or hip?
My money is on the hip.
by azruavatar on May 9, 2008 11:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Shoulder
Velocity is down and he won’t throw his curve, which puts more torque on the shoulder on the follow through.
"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
by MilCardFan on May 9, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Could be what BP calls a cascade.
If his hip was bothering him and he tried to adjust by using his arm or shouder more he may have hurt something else.
This is the same thing that ended mulder. Hip went, then he hurt his back adjusting to that, then started throwing with his shoulder more to adjust. We know how that ended.
by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I am just scared that Franklin may close
by ICbirdfan on May 9, 2008 11:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Franklin locked down the heart of Milwaukee's order
The guy has been nails, for the most part, since he’s worn the Birds on the Bat.
"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
by MilCardFan on May 9, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and we can make many drinking games on it
like we need them with loses like this though
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on May 9, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this just in
reyes has walked 3 in 3+ innings. in AAA. im sad.
by longhornscardinals on May 9, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
and has now been pulled
without recording an out in the 3rd.
current line: 3IP, 0R, 3BB, 3K, 4H for 7 base runners in 3 innings.
he’s also currently responsible for the runner on first.
by longhornscardinals on May 9, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Don't be too sad. The run didn't score.
The walks, I don’t like, the hits I don’t like. Managing to get out of jams doesn’t hurt as far as being a better pitcher. He did that, including Mather throwing out a runner at home. Just hope he can get a little sharper after adjusting back into the starting rotation. Anyway, his job is trade chip, and it isn’t his fault they haven’t traded him. Just don’t pay him no mind. He’s not a factor.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on May 10, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Argh, its not just bad pitch selection.
Since they were hammering 2 of his 3 pitches.
by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
even the second out
than ankiel caught could easily have been a double.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 11:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm done with this team until something is done about Izzy
what’s the point of enjoying a game for 3 hours only to have it ruined in 10 minutes by an incompetent closer?
I know he’s done alot for St. Louis, but he’s done, and should no longer be allowed to pitch in the 9th.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on May 9, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
PS: The morale of this team has to be about as low as it can possibly be
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on May 9, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony says he wants to talk to Izzy about it.
The guys on FSN say that Tony’s asked him, and Izzy says he’s all right, so he keeps getting sent out there.
Now how smart is it to listen to the guy whose job depends on Playing, rather than what the results are, or what you can see with your eyes.
Time for some managers to quit doing things the old fashioned way and think a little outside the box. Remember the ‘06 playoffs? Some of your best unconventional thinking, there, TLR.
by tinstl on May 9, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I love it...
rather than sending a player who clearly has something wrong with him physically to a doctor, they just ask him how he’s feeling.
This team isn’t even in the 20th century in terms of medicine, much less 21st.
Start Ludwick
by DiscoJer on May 9, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Results matter more
It doesn’t matter why he isn’t getting them, but until he can we need someone else to do the job. Its not like we won’t have innings for him to figure it out. They just don’t have to be high leverage innings.
by DriverZn on May 9, 2008 11:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
or MLB innings
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
by SleepyCA on May 9, 2008 11:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
2006 all over again
How many months of Izzy going out there blowing save after save and making EVERY stupid game interesting and just generally sucking. And then finally he says “i’m hurting” and we think back to how “brave” he was to pitch while injured (and losing games left and right).
5 blown saves, a 7.5 ERA (and going up every game) ... Izzy is just not the person I want to see out there. Neither is Glaus… ugh!
Tony is so afraid to “mix it up” and break with tradition and bat the pitcher 8th. Well time to mix it up again… and stop using the closer just because he’s the closer.
by redbird2006 on May 10, 2008 4:00 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is why i have no problem booing izzy
that’s wonderful that he has saved so many games for us, but now he is blatantly hurting the team and is too stubborn to do the right thing and step down.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on May 9, 2008 11:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If Glaus is out for any length of time...
we are in trouble. Brendan Ryan is pretty terrible over there at 3rd. Glaus may not be able to hit a beach ball with a tennis racket, but atleast he can field his position.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on May 9, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ryan can field his position
unfortunately, he rarely plays his actual position.
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i didn't say he was a bad shortstop, i said he was a bad third baseman. :P
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on May 9, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
larussa actually seems to think...
brendan is much better at third and second than at short; for whatever that’s worth…
by RedbirdAvenger on May 9, 2008 11:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well, TLR see's him play much more than I do
so maybe it was just a couple bad games for Ryan, the errors probably wouldn’t of been so magnified but each time the opposing team has gone on to score runs.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on May 10, 2008 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn you Izzy
I’m so mad at you, and then I watch the clubhouse interviews and the damn guy looks like he is about to cry and so incredibly frustrated and now I feel guilty. Please just retire or become a bullpen coach or something.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on May 9, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hear he said he had no business closing anymore
I’d have to imagine that if this is the case, Parisi goes down and Perez comes up.
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 11:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i hope so, i'm ready for the Perez era
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on May 9, 2008 11:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Guilty?
I don’t feel guilty. The guy gets paid 8 mm+ a year to play baseball. He’s made tons of money in his career. If he can’t perform up to the level we pay him for, he should retire.
If I had such a huge dropoff in performance, my boss would certainly can my ass.
by rencelas on May 9, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know, i still feel guilty though
it’s stupid, but it’s empathy.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on May 9, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The roasting of Izzy
is about to start on KTRS extra innings show..if anybody wants to listen online.
by KYCards on May 9, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wellemeyer is making a real case for himself as a key starter on this team
I was liking the thought of him as a closer, but he’s been pretty damn valuable starting games this year.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on May 9, 2008 11:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reyes only threw 51 pitches
is this just because he hasn’t started in a long time?
by Hardcore Legend on May 9, 2008 11:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Saw that also, weird.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on May 9, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ugh, Rasmus is hitting under the mendoza line now
Would someone just lie to the kid and tell him he has a chance of making the major league team, if that is what will make him stop sucking.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on May 9, 2008 11:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was not sharp....he walked three, gave up 4 hits....but no runs
He hasn’t pitced regularly or even very much since spring training. Or maybe they finally killed him…...
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on May 10, 2008 12:15 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Other options for closer
So, what are our options for closer beyond Izzy? If he cannot do the job, is it handed over to McClellan or Franklin? Does one of the young guys get called up? Are their adequate options outside of the organization? If so, who is a trading chip and how much would Mo be able to give up to bring someone in?
Tough situation, glad I’m not the one who has to figure it out.
Ichiro, Andruw, or Torii for CF '08
by scoot on May 10, 2008 12:25 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If you dare....pick up the phone and ask for Mr. Beane........
See what he wants for Huston Street…....dealing pitching with the A’s is a big time risk, though.
I wish they would just call someone from the AAA team.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on May 10, 2008 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Huston Street
has gotten off to a rough start as well. That said, it’s not near as bad as Izzy’s.
by VORPistoonerdy on May 10, 2008 1:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Actually, Ron Villone has been the best bullpen guy lately.
Let him handle the 9th for a week or ten days, let Izzy get some down time, see if he can’t work out his issues.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on May 10, 2008 1:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Silver lining
Jeff Gordon’s column got trashed on firejoemorgan.com. Always good to see a little local flavor on FJM.
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 10, 2008 12:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good for FJM
That guy is major tool, and deserves the ridicule.
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
by Mr Clean on May 10, 2008 4:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sigh
Why can’t we clone K-Mac a few times and call them L-Mac, N-Mac, Z-Mac and have a staff full of Macs..
The 9th inning has now had more runs plate than 7 other innings. I don’t know how that rates in the mlb as a whole, but as a Cards fan that fk’n blows.
How many bullpen losses have we had this year? One too damn many if you ask me.
I’ve backed Izzy through his early struggles, but after these last 2 or 3 outings, I’m out.
If it were me I’d go aggressive on our 40man and 60 day dl all of those “medical mysteries” that we have trolling on it that clearly aren’t going to do anything between now and the all-star break. Then I’d fill it with some of the promising bullpen options (perez and flores (despite last night, has a nice k/bb ratio, era, whip). keeping in mind that worrell and jimenez are already on it.
I’m not 100% on the technicalities of shifting on and off 40man and what it does overall, but why is Hawksworth on it when his numbers… um, suck at the moment.
Then start shifting as our bullpen tires out. This has got to stop, too many damn times we’re having excellent quality starts only to lose them in the last couple of innings.
Don’t know about anyone else, but when Oct runs around if we’re sitting a couple games out of first, as a fan and a Cards loyalist, I’ll be pissed.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 10, 2008 2:05 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
While not clones
there is nothing preventing us from calling up Perez or Motte, except that Springer/Parisi have to go. These two guys have ridiculous strikeout:BB rates. I’d rather watch them struggle through than Izzy.
by Hardcore Legend on May 10, 2008 2:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I wish
Tony would tear a page out of the winning formula of ‘06. We won the World Series that year precisely b/c La Russa, in the postseason, stopped making decisions based on contracts, or predetermined roles, or reputation. Instead he went with results, and that meant turning the bullpen over to the youngsters. So far this year he’s half-learned that lesson by giving so much leeway to McClellan. Time to go all the way and give Perez a shot in place of Izzy.
Brian Gunn
by briangunn on May 10, 2008 2:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Exactly
I mean, let’s place Izzy on DL, hell, make him throw simulated innings during bp to try getting something back, and while he’s doing that see if someone can take his job.
Personally I’d drop Springer easily and bring in Flores (bias, I like what I see) even though it means another lefty. I’d love to see Perez, I’d even like to see Worrell (who I think would be a nice setup man down the road).. imagine soon having a worrell – perez 8th and 9th. Yum, soak in that goodness.
Having issues is one thing, but having two outs and can’t get anything on 4 straight batters. Is BS from a closer, i’m tired of witnessing the collapse
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 10, 2008 2:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Another thing
I contend that we need to go to our farm for this. K-Mac shouldnt be the answer.
Too many times we’ve needed to win the game earlier than the 9th and hes came in and shut the threat down, I don’t want to lose that. With the way our starters tend to fade fast, that’s a scary scenario to lose a shutdown guy.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 10, 2008 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah...
That was pretty craptastic.
I alllllmost turned off the Tivo when the FSN camera cut to Izzy warming up in the pen with a 1 run lead. Why he didn’t stick with Franklin (after, what…8 pitches?) is beyond me. Well, okay…that’s not true. To Tony’s peculiarly rigid thinking, if it’s a save situation, that means Izzy.
I dare say we all knew what was coming. Did any Brewers batter even swing and miss a single one of his pitches? Hell, did they even foul one off, or were they all rifled between the lines? I can’t recall. It was just a cavalcade of hard hit balls. If only someone with a blog had written an article analyzing Izzy’s obvious decline and his inability to get batters to swing and miss…and then if only someone else from a local paper had copied it!
I love what Izzy has done for us over the years, but he’s not right. He’s no longer nails. On the same sad day that Edmonds was released by the Padres, I hope Tony makes a move with another Cardinals legacy…his closer. Izzy is not fooling anyone any more. If Tony won’t do it, I hope Mo will. This is not good baseball.
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
by Mr Clean on May 10, 2008 5:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's time for Perez to get a shot
I don’t know what else he has to prove at AAA. His numbers are sick. Call him up.
by mojowo11 on May 10, 2008 5:44 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on May 10, 2008 8:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs




















