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Game 36 Open Thread: May 8, 2008

St. Louis Cardinals at Colorado Rockies, May 8, 2008 3:05 PM EDT


Lohse De La Rosa
3-1, 3.79 0-1, 20.25

good chance of a rain delay today, but little chance of a rainout; it's cloudburst weather. whatever precipitation we get will be brief.

overflow thread programmed to open automatically about 2 hours into the game. i should be close to the field; look for me behind the cards' dugout.

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20.25 ERA?

I’d settle for 15 today, especially with Summers in Rangoon on the hill for the Birds.

by birdjam on May 8, 2008 2:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Not scary to me

One HR all year, aided by wind. I’ll take my chances.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think he was going with

The lots of balls hit into play and low strike out rate. Coors is a big field. They don’t have to leave the park to do damage. (Like the 8th inning last night.)

by Evilfrog on May 8, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fair enough

I’ll go with that, but we’re in a reasonable pitching matchup. I like Lohse here.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lineup

Interesting today. Yadi fifth. Barton 2nd, should be interesting!

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 8, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions  

"interesting" is a nice euphemism

probably going to need some help from the ryan, ak, iz2 set if they’re going to win this one. i’m not counting on lohse to put up 7 scoreless.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on May 8, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love the

Sippy lead off
Barton 2nd

Lineup.

by Evilfrog on May 8, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

me too

yadi 5th though….

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by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

Ankiel and Glaus are given the day off. But I do see your point.

by Evilfrog on May 8, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yadi

is our 4th best slugger off LHP, after Pujols, Ludwick, and Ankiel.

by liam on May 8, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Um...Shouldn't Albert Rest?

I know Milwaukee has been playing poorly lately, but I think we need to win/split that series more than we need 3 here…

by joeyart on May 8, 2008 2:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I'd say he was given the option

and declined.

Today very well could be a revenge game for Albert, no doubt he took last night on his shoulders

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed.

Proud President of the Unofficial Skip Schumaker Fan Club!
(now accepting applications)

PUT SKIP ON THE BALLOT!!!

by stltrav09 on May 8, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's get a quick double digit lead

and give him the rest of the day off :)

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert rests tomorrow

Like the lineup without Glaus and Duncan. Alott of pinch hit possibilities.

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 8, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

is the game going to start on time?

i hate weather delays

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by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply actions  

Hopefully it's delayed

For about 30 minutes. So I can catch the end on the drive home.

by Evilfrog on May 8, 2008 2:59 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

it’s all about you eh?

(was actually thinking the same thing)

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

if its delayed

will they just show the ankiel throws over and over again?

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by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I watched those a lot yesterday

Glaus deserves quite a bit of credit on the second one, the block was perfect. And thank goodness that the ump was in perfect view on both occasions, should he not be it could have been two close calls.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

no delay

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

skip skip skip!

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 8, 2008 3:05 PM EDT reply actions  

albert declined.

tony gave him the option

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 8, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh....

TLR should have sat him any way

by poohrat on May 8, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol yeah

management through democracy.

Manager: Go play 1st
Player: No, I want to play 3rd
Manager: Well your batting 4th
Player: No, I’m leading off
Manger: Well I’M DRINKING A ORANGE SODA
Player: ...........fine.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 8, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

if barton's helmut flies off there

he beats the throw

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by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Im not watching,

Just following the gameday live. But De le Rosa’s ERA is down 5 points snice the first pitch

by Evilfrog on May 8, 2008 3:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Was just going to say the same thing

The Cards’ offense – an ailing lefty’s best friend.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 8, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

well that inning sucked

thank god we get 8 more chances

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by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 3:10 PM EDT reply actions  

half inning

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by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

helton jacked that

off the top corner of the wall

pretty lucky for us

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by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

thats amazing....

how it hit the corner of the wall like that

by poohrat on May 8, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

espn

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

espn.com isnt too bad

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 8, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lohse

he’s thrown nothing but fastballs thus far.

by liam on May 8, 2008 3:16 PM EDT reply actions  

What happened on the Ryan error?

was it that bad of a play? the throw?

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

thanks

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

well that was...

lucky.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 8, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

are these pitches inside on gameday

they looked sweet to me on the inside corner

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by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

he missed the catch, went to the outfield

and now it’s a one run lead, that should be a two run lead

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on May 8, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

thanks

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

meant to reply

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on May 8, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

inside on gameday, yep

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on May 8, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions  

i do not like this strike-to-ball ratio

i do not like it, sam i … horatio

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on May 8, 2008 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Not getting a good feeling

Lohse today. I have a feeling our bullpen is going to get alot of work today….not really what we need going to Milwaukee. I really hope we can cash in today if he have runners on.

by KYCards on May 8, 2008 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

gotta get out of this one

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 3:20 PM EDT reply actions  

ugh

CUTTER BAD!! NO CUTTER!

by Valatan on May 8, 2008 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

this really isn't looking good

damn you brendan

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on May 8, 2008 3:22 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

About a week ago, people were ready to give him 4 years. Maybe we should hold off on that for a bit.

by Merry CRasmus on May 8, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

well you win some you LOHSE some.

guess he doesnt want that big contract after all!

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 8, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions  

time to chip away

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on May 8, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

or hit a grand slam

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on May 8, 2008 3:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

shit

well, lets find some gaps

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by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

hmm..

When I checked last time it was in the middle of the inning. Now they have 4 runs.

by Evilfrog on May 8, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

5 straight batters reach after the 2-out error

At some point the pitcher just has to stop that nonsense, error or no

by salvomania on May 8, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

well, he struck two guys out

who ended up walking because the ump wouldn’t call strike 3.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 8, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

well this is one of the reasons he was around in ST for cheap

being prone to the big inning…
lets just hope our bats can pick him up and let him settle down

by FunkeeC on May 8, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

well

I was thinking we’d get a pretty good measure of just how punch & judy this club was in Coors Field…..so far we have just the one Ankiel solo HR this series right?

by nota bene on May 8, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

ludwick solo HR

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on May 8, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

ludwick's last night

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 3:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh

didn’t get to watch last night’s game, which was just as well I guess….

by nota bene on May 8, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

and at least one luddy today

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by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well I didn't see the error

But 3 hits and 2 walks ain’t pretty

by riotmute on May 8, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply actions  

and to be fair

that ball was smoked by holliday at ryan

by FunkeeC on May 8, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Now we know why no one else wanted this guy

ouch. another horrible outing. i know ryan’s error didn’t help, but ryan didn’t walk 2 guys and serve up a bunch of meatballs

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 8, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Overreaction much?

A bad inning and time to throw him to the wolves.

by saladdays on May 8, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

No kidding

the fans, they are fickle.

by liam on May 8, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

to put it in context, the wind gave rick a misplay in center, and then the runt gets a hr off the wind.

Not excusing his performance today, but that day wasn’t all lohse, mother nature had her role.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

really typical on this board unfortunately….

by nota bene on May 8, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

3 of his last 4 starts have been terrible now

I’m sorry if that’s fickle, but it’s the truth

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 8, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahhh

So we throw him overboard when he sucks (which he’s going to do at times, he’s not what he was showing earlier and if anyone had even taken a cursory look at the peripheral numbers everyone would’ve known this), but good starts? Irrelevant! He’s sucking right now!

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 8, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

and of course

he’s pitching in Coors Field, which is the best place to judge pitchers…..

by nota bene on May 8, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's been consistently mediocre

some days, the balls find gloves and he’s efficiently awesome; other days they find holes and he sucks and is serving up meatballs.

He is what he is until he starts striking out more batters.

by liam on May 8, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rockies

sure are cashing in when they get runners on…wish we could do the same. I hate to sound too negative but after last night’s loss, I was thinking this could be the start of a skid for us while playing on the road.

The big fear: pitchers are going to try too hard because of the bullpen problems.

by KYCards on May 8, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

yep, a blown save loss followed by a blowout

= the makings of a really ugly losing streak.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 8, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

or reality setting in

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 8, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

de la Rosa

let’s hope he reverts to being de la Rosa right here

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on May 8, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

luddy!

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

great minds...

blog alike.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 8, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

We scored 6 runs the first two games this series

guess we’ll just have to do that again to take this series.

by liam on May 8, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

LUDWICK

Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.

by KerouacCardinal on May 8, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

luddy!

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 8, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Jacks a dong

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 8, 2008 3:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Kyle's mechanics look like crap

today. If he can clean them up, he might rebound but he is flying all over the place.

by Hardcore Legend on May 8, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Love the HR

but I hope we can get one of those with some men on base for a change. Anyone know how many of our HRs are solo jacks this season? Seems like most of them have been.

by KYCards on May 8, 2008 3:32 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

I’d have to agree. seems like most have been solo shots

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 8, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

17 of 25 have been solo

and only one has come with 2 men on base.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 8, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually 18 of 26

cuz the one luddy hit wasn’t counted yet by B-R.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 8, 2008 3:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yikes!

it’s more than I thought. Hope we can turn this around.

by KYCards on May 8, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

earned runs are a terrible metric

He walks 2, gives up 3 hits and comes away with a zero “earned runs”. Sometimes I think once a pitcher knows his “ER” for the inning are done, they relax and don’t care as much. I know that’s a harsh thing to say, but I said it.

by redbird2006 on May 8, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

the problem is

There’s just no good replacement for it….BP has all kinds of fancy statistics but nobody seems to use one like for hitting everybody uses VORP and Slash Stats. I like the Fair Run Average but that’s not defense independent and also based on the league average scoring matrix…I still think after 100+ years we just can’t know enough about pitching.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 8, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

well...WHIP is pretty good...i just woke up, leave me alone.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 8, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Probably worse

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 8, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think this is going to be a long day for all the pitchers....

on both teams. Patience at the plate will win the day. This ump strike zone is SMALL

by poohrat on May 8, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah but...

what do you think of the strike zone?

"Back in the day when I played, a pitcher had 3 pitches: a fastball, a curveball, a slider, a changeup and a good sinker pitch." - Mike Shannon

by nomar34 on May 8, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

6 balls put into play

4 having left the infield. We have to change that.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions  

haven't*

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well. At least...

Lohse can get thier 1-2 guys out.

by Evilfrog on May 8, 2008 3:38 PM EDT reply actions  

lets get some puntos here

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by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 3:39 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll take Cardinal killers

in the West and East divisions. That’s perfectly fine with me.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 8, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

single, single, HR

albert breaks out

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on May 8, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

skippy walk, barton double, pujols walk

luddy jack

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by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions  

please

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

gotta love when the zone

expands when we are up

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by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions  

seriously.....

this guy is horrible and its his crappy zone that led to 4 in the first

by poohrat on May 8, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

as long as it shrinks again when we pitch

must have balance in the universe…

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 8, 2008 3:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was going to say

Mediocre lefty on the mound…trouble getting offense…hmm…

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 8, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

I AM SICK OF THESE TRIPLES

ok, I’m done.

"because at the end of the day they still are the Chicago Cubs"

by rockin the red on May 8, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

zone shrinks on a strike 3

leads to a triple

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by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply actions  

hit to skip

get a triple at coors, new fan promotion!

sigh

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahah

barton’s hat flew off in the outfield

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by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Atkins fears the arm of Barton

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 8, 2008 3:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Dan McLuaghlin....

just asked Al where the strike zone is….And followed up by saying “this strke zone I just cant follow it”

by poohrat on May 8, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Who peed in Dan's cornflakes?

Don’t know about you, but I like the new ornery version of Dan.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 8, 2008 3:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

any denver birdos?

i’m hoping for a rain out. they owe us one.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 8, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions  

with one out and a runner on third

I actually wonder if the walk helps him out a bit

CUTTER BAD!! NO CUTTER!

by Valatan on May 8, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

was just thinking that

maybe IBB Barmes and try to get a DP from the pitcher?

by nota bene on May 8, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

ianetta took a strike right down the middle for ball 3

If I was Lohse, I’d have been thrown out of this game innings ago.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 8, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Iannetta

earned that walk, it wasn’t as if it was four straight balls

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK, so no strikes will be called on the inside corner

but shoetops are strikes

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 8, 2008 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Guh.

Get two here and I’ll personally send $99.99 to Cardinals’ Care.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 8, 2008 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

Can't see the game

but is the ump squeezing Lohse with every batter so far?

by KYCards on May 8, 2008 3:56 PM EDT reply actions  

looks like it

im realy really biased though

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by ihavebadknees on May 8, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rooney

is really questioning the umps strike zone. I bet Tony is starting to bark from the dugout.

by KYCards on May 8, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

um

so strike 2 was further outside than any of the balls so far….

by nota bene on May 8, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

even the colorado tv guys

are saying lohse is getting squeezed

by FunkeeC on May 8, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

looked

like the same pitch to me.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 8, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions  

he's missing a lot

but he’s had some great pitches called balls as well. Three times now he’s thrown strikes with a two strike count and the player ended up walking.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 8, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

bear down

kyle

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 8, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

OK

it’s the pitcher…..let’s get a double play and strand Atkins…..

by nota bene on May 8, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

robot balls and strikes

The game needs it. In 2009.

CUTTER BAD!! NO CUTTER!

by Valatan on May 8, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

its getting rather tired all these umps missing calls blatantly

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 8, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Once again...

I say it’s time for Robot umps. At least for balls and strikes

Start Ludwick vs righties (maybe this will work)

by DiscoJer on May 8, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions  

i might soon have to turn this game off at work

else something will get thrown….

anyone seen my red stapler?

by FunkeeC on May 8, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Let me just take that...

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on May 8, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, albert

this is not your series

CUTTER BAD!! NO CUTTER!

by Valatan on May 8, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Pssst Tony

Albert looks really really tired

Start Ludwick vs righties (maybe this will work)

by DiscoJer on May 8, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

+1

How about – for this year only – Tony abandons his “honor system” for judging whether or not a player feels ready to go?

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 8, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

you know

Most people will say that the Most important Job Tony has this year is keeping Pujols happy.

by Evilfrog on May 8, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

dangit!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 8, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions  

albert bobbled an easy grounder

and wasnt able to get the force at home. 5-1 rox

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 8, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

my guess is

TLR wanted to give Pujols his day off tomorrow so that Duncan can replace him at first against a righty and Ludwick can still play. No chance Duncan replaces Pujols today against a lefty.

by gossard56 on May 8, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions  

we face Manny Parra tomorrow and he's another lefty

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by coachnick39 on May 8, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

your right

might have to wait another day then

by gossard56 on May 8, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

today was the day

against a terrible pitcher…gives duncan a chance at least….man do i miss spezio on days like this

by VolsnCards5 on May 8, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

whats blows

is the worse a pitchers stats are coming into a game the worse we hit against them it seems.

by gossard56 on May 8, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

good thing its early,

we can still get to De La Rosa. Keep the faith yall

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 8, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

if i'm loshe

i get myself throw out on purpose next time i’m up to bat…end this misery and make a point…die a martyr

by VolsnCards5 on May 8, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions  

This umpire

has been calling games at the major league level since Brooks Robinson was still playing. Time to hang it up, I think.

by liam on May 8, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Lohse has a

victim mentality stemming from the error in the first. He will fight through 5 and then start giving it up again. Get you long man ready….........

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 8, 2008 4:07 PM EDT reply actions  

well, if we're only going to get one hit

with no walks, off a guy with an ERA of 20, it doesn’t matter how many runs he gives up.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 8, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barton will come out in an inning or 2, Maybe Rick can be a hero...

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by coachnick39 on May 8, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

We can't even hit De La Rosa

I don’t know if this is funny or sad

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 8, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Check that

the Cards offense have almost halved that figure – it stands at 11.25ERA at the moment. Ugh.

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 8, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I am in no way giving up on this game

but its hard to believe that going into the 8th last night we were on the brink of a 4 game sweep ( considering todays starters numbers) and now it is looking like we will likely leave with a split.

ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?

by Smokin Turkeys on May 8, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply actions  

A real pisser

We could’ve been up 3.5 games in the division instead of up 2.

by liam on May 8, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's reminding me of that giants series we split earlier in the year

except that we won the games we should have lost and lost the games we should have won. or something like that. forget that, time for a comeback!

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 8, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Quintanilla is pissing me off

we need to send him and Mike Fontenot off to an island somewhere

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by coachnick39 on May 8, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

i blink

and rockies have 2 runners on

by FunkeeC on May 8, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions  

C'mon Kyle

BEAR DOWN!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 8, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

When Iz

has the deepest hit ball next to the homerun, you know something is off.

I’d be curious, regardless of staff/pitcher what the w/l of a team that drops a game in the 8th on the road. There’s got to be something just not sitting right.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply actions  

hmmm...

I like the 13 scoreless innings to start the season Lohse better than this Lohse.

by Evilfrog on May 8, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions  

when you have a pitcher who relies on pitch placement and not missing bats, he’s going to look good irregardless of where he’s pitching when he’s not getting any call that’s borderline.

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

not going*

sigh

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

is someone warmin up?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 8, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Was just going to write "get the hook at the ready"

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 8, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Springer

Duncan to the mound.

by liam on May 8, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

the rockies announcers said so

didn’t say who. I’d guess it’d be Parisi

CUTTER BAD!! NO CUTTER!

by Valatan on May 8, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dave Duncan walks

like he’s pissed off at the ground

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by coachnick39 on May 8, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions  

Look out NL West

we have woke up the Rockies from their winter slumber.

by KYCards on May 8, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

They play the Cubs

at the end of the month. Hopefully they’ll stay grouchy that long.

by liam on May 8, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow!

did lohse get lucky there! That was crazy close to goin out

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 8, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

haha lando's brother

al called him zorro earlier…and there was a dustin hermanson reference as well

by VolsnCards5 on May 8, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

he runs the operations in cloud city.....

he was always jealous of Lando and he’s the one that tipped off Vader to the rebal alliance there

by poohrat on May 8, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Zorro needs to hit a dp ground ball

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by coachnick39 on May 8, 2008 4:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Lohse is getting a whole lot cheaper

these past two games, sadly I wouldn’t want him now.

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, he looked like really reliable

now, not so sure. looked really bad against the cubs, and now this

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 8, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

We could get this out of Mark Mulder

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by coachnick39 on May 8, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions  

This game sucks

Im going to go get some work done.

by Evilfrog on May 8, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Dang

A productive day at the office beats a bad day at the ballpark?

by liam on May 8, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, ballpark is better

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by coachnick39 on May 8, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Perfect waste of a day game.

Hate to say it, but we’ve had one of these coming eventually. Sucks that it comes during an early start.

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 8, 2008 4:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Lohse

at 93 through 4 per gameday. He has to be done, right?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 8, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions  

make that 92

sorry

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 8, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Fork is in him

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by coachnick39 on May 8, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

dammit rockies

why couldn’t you wait one more game to come out of your hitting slump. and why can’t we get runs off this pitcher? what gives

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 8, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Thats it for Lohse

He brought it with him today. He was to far forward from the first pitch. That doesn’t obscure the fact that these hitters needs help.

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 8, 2008 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

In other news

Brandon Webb is ridiculous.

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 8, 2008 4:28 PM EDT reply actions  

he may need a doctor

because he is SIK!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 8, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok

I’ve got about a shit ton of paper on my desk to file. maybe I should do that

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 8, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Franklin has had too many Franklins

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by joker24 on May 8, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

at this point

we should all be so lucky

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by coachnick39 on May 8, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Franklin on the other hand

is wandering around the forest in center field

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by coachnick39 on May 8, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions  

What is the deal with all the camera shots today?

they showed a duck, and now they’re just focusing on some cardinal hanging out in the pine trees.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 8, 2008 4:30 PM EDT reply actions  

nice hustle

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 8, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

not sure why this went as a reply

wasnt supposed to

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 8, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon boog!

base knock!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 8, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

franklin

is using his telscopic vision to steal signs…unfortunately he doesn’t know the signs so he is give the hitters bad advice

by VolsnCards5 on May 8, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions  

get two Troy!

Lets Go Redbirds!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 8, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions  

UIBB

BOOO!

C’mon Iz2, bring the magic bat!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 8, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

i feel

a three run homer coming…izturis gonna flash some make em pay power

by VolsnCards5 on May 8, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Id be happy with a make em pay single

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by coachnick39 on May 8, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just get us back to Skip.

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 8, 2008 4:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

there we go

if we cant move em over, let them do the work

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by jealousblues on May 8, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

we needed that!

keep the good eye on it Iz2.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 8, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Dammit

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by coachnick39 on May 8, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions  

wah-wahhhhht?

So you say the Cardinals are…stranding? runners

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by jealousblues on May 8, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply actions  

thats how we roll

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by coachnick39 on May 8, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cy Young

a.k.a. Jorge De La Rosa has an ERA of less than half of what it was at the beginning of the day. Thank you, Cardinal offense.

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 8, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Good call

the futility of ERA as a statistic demonstrated again.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 8, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Top of the lineup in the 6th...

hold ‘em here, put up a 3-spot in the 6th, then chip away to tie late, beat ‘em in extras…

That’s one semi-realistic, if overly hopeful scenario…

by salvomania on May 8, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

zhey

Springer is pitching! Didnt know he could do that anymore ;-)

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by jealousblues on May 8, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions  

he got an out

making him chase a crap pitch.

go Russ!

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by jealousblues on May 8, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions  

Russ to the rescue

Now that’s more like it…

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 8, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

springer

should have pitched last night…hindsight is 20/20

by VolsnCards5 on May 8, 2008 4:44 PM EDT reply actions  

on a side note

Atkins and the stlperfectos fantasy baseball team thank Loshe today

(though they collectively, and Waino specifically BOOOO Izzy for yesterday )
;-)

Hows this for risky business, my closers are: Izzy, Ryan, Lidge!

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by jealousblues on May 8, 2008 4:45 PM EDT reply actions  

geez, the Rockies must have the biggest...

no hit, all speed OF with Pods and Tavy

That is if you forget about Holliday and Hawpe

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by jealousblues on May 8, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions  

ahh a good pitched inning

almost as refreshing as a cold franklin would be

by FunkeeC on May 8, 2008 4:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Got a meeting, but a couple of things

It’s clear to me that we need to ignore what the rest of the division is doing for a while. As far as I’m concerned we’re 2 games back, because we’ll need all of 91 wins to have a chance. So we should be looking at 10 games over .500 as the thing to strive against/beat.

We’re going to have days like this and coming off of last night, it was almost writing on the wall. Luddy still shines though.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Ludwick

is making the OF situation a lot less confusing. that and Dunc’s D

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 8, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

and

during potential trade talks do not bring someone to the table who sucks against lefties. Teams are already biasing left handers against us and frankly, I don’t blame them. The last thing we need is to sign or trade for someone who can’t either.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 8, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

agree with everything but the math.

91 wins for the year is 20 games above .500 (91-71). 10 games above .500 is 86-76.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on May 8, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course

8 games over .500, 36 games into the season, is on a pace for 36 games over .500 on October first… which should get the job done.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 8, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

streak lives!!!!!!!!!!!

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by coachnick39 on May 8, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm still not impressed by this streak

It’d be worth it if it was a hitting streak. rolls eyes

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 8, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions  

we'll see how impressive it is

if and when he gets closer to 80 some games

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 8, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't know if you caught it but that was a reference to this post by 'Youneverknow':
I hope the streak ends, period

I’m sick of hearing about it. Just something artificial about it. To think what a poor game he had last night, by his own admission, and yet the streak continues. Wow.

I’m not down on Albert. Not possible. Everything he does on the field demands your full attention. This streak just doesn’t do much for me. If it was a hitting streak, that would be different. It’s not.

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 8, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

hey

there we go

i bet someone says. good bit of hitting

crep al beat me to it

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by jealousblues on May 8, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Yadi!

way to drive in a run and get the average over .300

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by coachnick39 on May 8, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Keep pecking away

Let’s get a win for Parisi.

That’d be a nice ironic twist from last night: awful starting pitching, nails work from the ‘pen.

by liam on May 8, 2008 4:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Gentlemen...

don the rally caps.

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 8, 2008 4:57 PM EDT reply actions  

dons E-rally cap

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by jealousblues on May 8, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, his batting average will fall below .300

if he doesn’t get a hit in his next at bat…

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 8, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok, the streak continues.

albert can sit the rest of the game.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 8, 2008 5:00 PM EDT reply actions  

so could the streak be ended

by pujols sitting a game later?

oh, that sucks they pull Pujols and the ball goes by Dunc, who has really had a poor series and is probably taking all kinds of heat while I type this

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by jealousblues on May 8, 2008 5:03 PM EDT reply actions  

don't think so

he doesn’t have to play every game

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 8, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Overflow is up

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