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heads up from will carroll: he’ll have an interview today with cards’ assistant gm john abbamondi on Baseball Prospecus radio. you can download the show here.
last night’s game . . . . . where to start? they squandered too many scoring chances; that pattern continues. for the second time this year, pujols made a fielding misplay that cost the cardinals a late lead. above all, isringhausen blew another save and took another loss. i’m not trying to downplay the concern over the bullpen, because it’s serious; they need to get that problem under control before it starts costing them bushels of games. but it hasn’t cost them bushels so far; it only seems that way. i can really only fault the pen for 2 losses: last night’s, and the april 25 loss to the astros. in both games, the cards’ win expectancy was above 90 percent until the bullpen got involved. have there been other blown saves? sure, but no bullpen is perfect; you can’t hold every lead or preserve every tie. the cards have played a lot of close games this year, and they’ve won more than their share.
we tend to lose sight of that fact when we witness maddening failure as we did last night; we tend to forget how often the bullpen has come through and sealed a win --- as it did just a couple nights previous, on monday, when four relievers pitched 6 innings of 1-run ball and enabled the cards to steal a very tenuous win. or the night before that, in the sunday night ESPN game, when the relievers held the cubs to 1 run over 4 innings and brought home a 5-3 victory. last night’s defeat left the bullpen with a net WPA of about +0.23 for the season ---- not great, but far from terrible. and Baseball Prospectus’s win-expectancy metric, WXRL, has the pen at about +1 win for the year after last night. and both metrics look prettier when you eliminate brad thompson’s stats (0-1, 7.71 era as a reliever) from the equation. does the bullpen have issues? absolutely. but let’s keep them in perspective; the pen isn’t killing the team.
yet.
i might be telling a different story in a week or two, however, if they don’t get izzy out of the closer’s role. here’s the statistic that scares me about him: only 11 percent of his strikes have been swing / misses this year. throughout his career, that figure has been at 18 or 19 percent; even in 2006, 16 percent of his strikes came on whiffs. he’s just not missing bats anymore. here’s how it breaks down on a per-pitch basis:
| year | pitches | whiffs | pct |
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| 2004 | 1177 | 132 | 11.2 |
| 2005 | 921 | 104 | 11.3 |
| 2006 | 1051 | 102 | 9.7 |
| 2007 | 1055 | 110 | 10.4 |
| 2008 | 273 | 20 | 7.3 |
his offerings are running into bats nearly 50 percent more often than they did last year, and 33 percent more often than they did even during izzy’s peg-legged 2006 season. the league whiff-per-pitch average is 9.9 percent, meaning izzy is well below average this season. it's not just a case of a few off games, or a few unlucky hits that have fallen in. isringhausen isn't the same pitcher he used to be, not by a longshot --- he can’t throw it past hitters anymore. and for that reason, the cardinals can’t keep sending him out there to protect leads.
before i go on: i don’t share the impassioned and unhealthy hatred for is’hausen that is so regrettably common among cardinal fans. he’s the most dependable closer in franchise history; his failure rate has been lower than hrabosky’s, sutter’s, or worrell’s and about even with lee smith’s. he’s appeared in 19 postseason games for the cards and only cost them one --- the kent walkoff homer in game 5 of the 2004 nlcs. the guy’s a great pitcher and a class act; sure it’s frustrating to see him blow games, but he doesn’t deserve the personal abuse that gets heaped on him. spew venom if it makes you feel better; i can’t stop you. but it says more about you than it does about izzy. to me, that guy’s a winner in every respect.
unfortunately, he’s no longer getting the job done; for the team’s sake, he’s got to be replaced. it will take a while (maybe weeks, maybe months) before la russa comes around to that conclusion; when he finally does, what options will he have? a quick look:
- chris perez. after last night’s game he has a 1.72 era at memphis, with twice as many strikeouts (20) as hits allowed (10). he’s got a dominating combo of pitches (fastball-slider) and a mean streak. perez still walks too many guys, but if duncan can get todd wellemeyer to throw strikes than he ought to be able to do the same with this rookie. he’d be my first choice; get him on up here. but hey, speaking of wellemeyer . . . . .
- todd wellemeyer. think outside the box w/ me here. welley has been unhittable in the first inning of his starts in 2008 --- 26 batters faced, 2 hits, 2 walks, 9 ks, no runs allowed. in the one-inning closer’s role, he could be fearsome. there’s also the fact that, pitching out of the cardinal bullpen last year, wellemeyer posted a 1.26 era and held opposing hitters to a .174 average (albeit in a tiny sample of only 14.1 innings). if the team decides that perez still isn’t ready because of his control issues, my second choice would be wellemeyer. has he been good in the rotation? sure --- but let’s not act as if he’s irreplaceable. in 7 outings to date he has 2 quality starts; the cardinals have a pitcher at triple A (reyes) who can pitch at the back of a big-league rotation and another on the current roster (parisi) who probably can, too. this is my second choice.
- kyle mcclellan. he didn’t exactly cover himself in glory last night; in fact, his line was nearly identical to izzy’s (one single, one triple, one out). the league is still just getting to know mcclellan, and there’s a pretty good chance he will start losing effectiveness once the hitters have a book on him. and let’s not forget, we’re talking about a guy who as of this time last year was in class A. but his k / bb data are great, he has only yielded 2 extra-base hits so far, and he’s kept 8 of 10 inherited runners from scoring. he’d be risky, but what the hell; they stuck a rookie out there (wainwright) last time izzy went down, and it worked out ok. my 3d choice.
- braden looper. he has experience in the job but was never particularly good at it; too valuable now as an innings eater in the rotation. leave him where he is.
- anthony reyes. no way. he’s not suited to it, and the manager doesn’t trust him.
- ryan franklin. if an when isringhausen gets replaced, franklin is probably going to get the first crack at the job by default. it’ll make a lot of folks foam at the mouth; i won’t like the decision either, though i’ll try to keep my outrage in check. there's a decent chance franklin can do a passable job in the short term. if dave weathers can close in the big leagues (he converted 33 of 39 opportunities last year), i reckon ryan franklin might be capable of it too. understand, i’m not endorsing this option; i think it’s a terrible idea. but i’m preparing myself to live with it.
- jason motte. like perez, he has twice as many strikeouts (24) as hits allowed (11) at triple A; he has walked just 4 men in 15 innings. but he’s got less than 2 years’ experience as a pitcher and hasn’t yet developed a quality second pitch to play off his scorching fastball. i love what i’ve seen so far, but i need to see more before i entrust him w/ a high-leverage role.
- mark worrell. only 4 saves last year at memphis, none this year. vulnerable vs left-handed hitters. not an option.
- al hrabosky. madness never dies.
so how would you handle it? vote below. i'll be at the game this afternoon, cheerfully neglecting my responsibilities; a win would give 'em three series in a row and sweep away last night's frustration. temporarily, at least. . . .
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inherited runners
Izzy always makes it interesting when he starts his own inning, let alone with inherited runners.
by rmtx97 on
May 8, 2008 9:55 AM EDT
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Very bad idea
bringing in Izzy in 8th inning with runners on. I personally would have stuck with both Mc Cellan and Flores for one more batter. I don’t mind Flores against right handers when he throwing well.
by ridgesee on
May 8, 2008 10:43 AM EDT
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Wellemonster
I have to admit, that’s an intriguing suggestion, lboros. The more I mill it over, the more I like it. Contrary to what Joe Morgan says, he’s a hard thrower and a pretty effective strikeout pitcher. That could actually work out nicely—and it would further blur the distinction between relievers and starters in St. Louis: we only have “pitchers” here! (Blooper, Wellemonster, Reyes, Wainer)
To me, I think that you pull a one year Wellemeyer audition at closer only if you believe Perez isn’t ready, which may be the case. If Perez is ready (or if the organization believes he’s ready) then go with him.
I have often defended Izzy, pointing out his save percentage and overall reliability despite his penchant for making things interesting. However, when lboros and his level-headed and well researched opinions think he’s done, he’s done. I agree, sadly. He’s had far too good of a career to go down in flames like this. DL him, blame it on the hip, and let him see if he can pitch his way back.
by Ray Lankford on
May 8, 2008 9:56 AM EDT
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+1
Personally, I think we got hosed on that call.
by cardsfanindenver on
May 8, 2008 10:00 AM EDT
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I kinda like the idea too....
1. I like to keep McClellan available for more than 1 inning. He seems to handle that well
2. Who steps into the starter role?
by sdrone on
May 8, 2008 10:50 AM EDT
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Geez...
You didn’t even list Franklin as an option! Was that subliminal or you just figured no one would vote for him? I would actually vote for him. Throw him in the roll and if he fails replace him. I know, I know…the numbers don’t work out, but I think Izzy is staying closer unless they put him on DL.
by sdelek on
May 8, 2008 9:57 AM EDT
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total oversight . . . . .
i’ll add him in there now - even though it’ll mess up the scientific rigor of our poll. . . . .
by lboros on
May 8, 2008 11:22 AM EDT
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i voted izzy
I believe he is still leading the league in saves, i think if nothing else tony needs to use him a little less, he is getting some serious miles on him, but as of today i think he is the best option.
That being said, i think perez should be called up, hopefully before sept. and start to face big league batters its his job next year.
McClellan looks to great some times and meh the next, and he is still a rookie.
Wellemeyer is interesting, if izzy begins to look bad continuosly and some of the veteran starting pitching comes back i would find it plossible to give him a shot at it. He throws hard and can strike out ppl.
"Textbooks are Soviet propaganda" - Rev. Jerry Falwell
by elirock83 on
May 8, 2008 9:59 AM EDT
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This is pretty much
my line of thinking as well – use Izzy sparingly and call up Perez and start breaking him in. Welle is also an interesting proposition and would be a good choice if Perez isn’t ready/can’t handle it yet.
I agree, Larry, Izzy is a winner, but it is time to start looking toward the future and saying goodbye to an old warrior.
by cardsgirl95 on
May 8, 2008 10:54 AM EDT
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pretty much my thoughts as well
Also, Izzy may be showing some definite signs for concern, but unless it turns out he’s hurt (definite possibility) or the bad trends continue/become a bigger issue thant there are now, I think it’s too early to pull the plug on such a long-time winner. As elirock points out, the fact that he has been overworked (by necessity mostly) is not helping his performance.
Tony would also have to take into consideration what effect there might be on the team if he removes such a winning veteran from the closer’s role when he’s so close to a carreer milestone even though he’s leading the league in saves. A good case can be made that we may have better options based on his performance (especially his periferals) so far this year. But taking 300 saves away from Izzy because his periferals aren’t everything you want only a month into the season may create a lot of clubhouse tension and/or bad blood.
If he’s hurt or his performance languishes for a while longer, then you give Perez his shot.
by fltfire on
May 8, 2008 12:08 PM EDT
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I still think Izzy need to just not throw that f*≈√µ cutter until it's fixed
He’s clearly getting rocked on it, and has shown that he can be effective with the fastball/knuckle curve combo
CUTTER BAD!! NO CUTTER!
by Valatan on
May 8, 2008 12:24 PM EDT
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I voted Izzy
contingent on him recognizing which of his pitches are effective.
by liam on
May 8, 2008 1:24 PM EDT
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TLR
“it will take a while (maybe weeks, maybe months) before la russa comes around to that conclusion; when he finally does, what options will he have?”
your comment there really touched a nerve with me, and its not just TLR that does things like this. i guess in any situation people have feelings and relationships and those things sometimes cloud judgment. i’m a carolina panthers fan, live in charlotte, nc., and see the same thing with the brain trust here, ie, sticking with players they probably shouldnt…
anyway, the real question that comes to my mind based on your statement above is, “when he finally does, how many wins will it have cost us?” i’m hoping not many because i feel like this team is borderline good and needs every win it can get…
by UNCDubya on
May 8, 2008 9:59 AM EDT
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What I think
Is that we absolutely need to see if Motte or Perez can do what they’re doing now against major league batters first, and that should be done soon. They are the future of the bullpen without a doubt and if they can get it done now, why not just hasten that future? They definitely have the highest upside of any other options here.
Next time we use up Parisi, use him for 2-3 innings (he’ll be happy to have gotten his feet wet here), send him down and call up MotteorPerez and plug him into middle innings for now. If MoP succeeds, progressively give him more and more leverage. McClellan earned TLR’s trust in like 2 outings, can’t MoP do it with better stuff?
I’m terrified by Franklin trying to close. He’s not getting groundballs, he’s not striking anyone out, he’s walking more. Something is going to give.
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
by joker24 on
May 8, 2008 10:05 AM EDT
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call someone up
if they think there is chance that izzy will have to be replaced, they need should call up perez now. perez might not end up being the guy, but he needs to get his feet wet in the big leagues before getting tossed into the closers role. if mcclellan ends up closing, someone needs to take his job. i think izzy has earned the right to fight through his struggles a little bit longer, but that doesnt mean they shouldnt work on the back up plan right now.
by dmb60614 on
May 8, 2008 10:41 AM EDT
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Motte as closer
I live in Austin and saw Motte pitch here earlier this year. He made the first two hitters look silly, then gave up two long hits, one a monster homer. He still needs one more pitch and then watch out!
by Remember Kenny B on
May 8, 2008 10:49 AM EDT
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Saw Motte as well
He’s great as a set-up guy…. wouldn’t mind him getting the call-up to close….. How many here thought Wainwright was the guy to replace Izzy two years ago? He wasn’t very experienced at closing, was he? Worked out pretty darn good…..
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on
May 8, 2008 11:11 AM EDT
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Bullpen
Wagonmaker was in the bullpen for the whole year leading up to that…they didnt just bring him up and stick him in as the closer.
"Back in the day when I played, a pitcher had 3 pitches: a fastball, a curveball, a slider, a changeup and a good sinker pitch." - Mike Shannon
by nomar34 on
May 8, 2008 2:23 PM EDT
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Consider Strauss' comments from yesterday
Chris Perez will not close for a contender, folks.
Will not is far different from should not and can not. The “will not” description says more about LaRussa and his fondness for veterans in the closer role than it is a description of Chris Perez’s talents.
If and went LaRussa admits that Izzy can’t hack it anymore (and we should all admit up front that despite some wild rides, Izzy has been a darn good closer), I think Franklin gets a shot at the job, which isn’t a bad deal. If Franklin can be passable as a closer, the demotion of Izzy (DL?) creates the space necessary to bring up someone like Worrell or Perez to fill the gap. The outcome could be very similar to the Indians last season, where Betancourt and Perez dominated in the 7th and 8th inning roles while the Borowski was the closer. Would putting our best relievers in the 7th and 8th innings be such a bad thing, rotating in some combo young relief talents like Worrell, Perez, Mcclellan, Motte, and Parisi along with the requisite LOOGYS? Seems like the way the Cardinals are burring through their pen this season, it is important to have as many high quality one or two inning relievers as possible to plug into innings 6 through 8 and removal of Izzy and placement of Franklin in the closers role provides that opportunity.
by JMedwick on
May 8, 2008 10:06 AM EDT
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No knock on Strauss
But he also said Reyes would be traded before the first week of the season.
by Evilfrog on
May 8, 2008 10:11 AM EDT
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I'll knock Strauss
only he won’t see it here. Guess I need to head over to El Vivi Birdos so he’ll see it.
"Do what you want to the women and children but leave me alone"- George Carlin
by That's a Winner on
May 8, 2008 10:30 AM EDT
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You may knock Strauss
But I would be willing to bet his comment is based less on personal opinion than on a clear fact that LaRussa will not have Perez as his closer this year.
by JMedwick on
May 8, 2008 11:39 AM EDT
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and he shouldnt...
imho…even the greatest closers ever werent just shoved into the closers role first thing.
"Back in the day when I played, a pitcher had 3 pitches: a fastball, a curveball, a slider, a changeup and a good sinker pitch." - Mike Shannon
by nomar34 on
May 8, 2008 2:26 PM EDT
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and if he does put a rookie there...
it will be KMac long before Perez or Motte because he has earned TLR’s trust already a la Wagonmaker
"Back in the day when I played, a pitcher had 3 pitches: a fastball, a curveball, a slider, a changeup and a good sinker pitch." - Mike Shannon
by nomar34 on
May 8, 2008 2:29 PM EDT
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really??
“hot toddie” worrell?
iirc, he came from louisville in late ‘85 as a closer,no?
by stlsports on
May 11, 2008 10:20 AM EDT
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LaRussa unwilling to have a rookie close
have you all forgotten about Izzy in 2006? Or how about Reyes starting game 1 of the world series? I think the knock on LaRussa being unwilling to use young players is way overblown. I do think that, like most managers, if he feels the options are equal in other respects, he’ll go with the experience/track record. I would too. But when he thinks the best option is a rookie/young player, I don’t think he hesitates.
You may disagree with his determination of what the “best option” is, but I have only on occasion and then, none of us have more wins as a Cardinals’ manager than Red in fewer games, do we.
by fltfire on
May 8, 2008 12:17 PM EDT
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By "izzy"
clearly I meant Wainwright….I type the wrong thing far too often, especially to co-workers….. but that’s a whole other story.
by fltfire on
May 8, 2008 12:19 PM EDT
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While clearly
LaRussa was willing to make the in-season move in 2006 to stick Wainwright into the closers role after waiting three-quarters of the season to see if Izzy was alright, that one time overlooks the track-record of St. Louis continually making moves to bring in”big money closers” rather than seeking cheaper in-house options. There is a reason the cards have signed and resigned Izzy numerous times and it not just because he has been an above average closer. It is because LaRussa seeks stability and familiarity at the back of his bullpen at the opportunity cost of how those dollars could have been spent if he were willing to seek out in-house options.
In 2008 much like 2006, he may have no choice but to seek the in-house method, but doing so out of a lack of options rather than out of a desire to pursue a different course.
by JMedwick on
May 8, 2008 12:35 PM EDT
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Im going to go with Perez.
The Colonel makes an interesting option. But then you would have to replace his spot in the rotation.
Closer is one of those roles that I believe trail by fire is acceptable. Though a few 7th or 8th innings outings couldn’t hurt.
I would have went with Hrabosky..But im more afraid who they will put in the booth with Dan than I am of Izzy closing out every game until the end of the season.
by Evilfrog on
May 8, 2008 10:11 AM EDT
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...who they will put in the booth with Dan....
That’s funny.
by cardsgirl95 on
May 8, 2008 10:59 AM EDT
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First-hand observations from last night's game..
1) The catches by Taveras and Barmes were tremendous plays, especially Barmes’. That ball Albert hit in the 9th was an absolute missile. I don’t consider those at-bats failures by El Hombre…sometimes you have to tip your cap to the other team.
2) Albert did misplay that foul ball in the 8th, but let’s give Spilborghs some credit there too. That was a good at-bat in a crucial spot.
3) The Wagonmaker is pure nails.
4) Overheard nickname from the crowd about Barton and his high socks: Dreadsocks.
Personally, I think we got hosed on that call.
by cardsfanindenver on
May 8, 2008 10:14 AM EDT
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Agree on Pujols.
He just hits missles sometimes and there are times the ball more less catches the fielder than the fielder catching the ball. For example the first inning when Albert hit a missle at Atkins, if that ball is 1 foot either way it ends up in the corner and AP is standing on 2B with a double. Not a big deal since Barton did score on Luds sac fly.
I really don’t see a lot of AP AB’s as failures because he just destoys the ball at times, and it’s not like slow pitch softball where you have about 99% control of where the ball is hit.
by ICbirdfan on
May 8, 2008 10:24 AM EDT
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It was a team loss
Izturis couldn’t come up with one down the middle that he normally can. Ankiel GIDP with bases loaded. He also had a base running error that resaulted in a double play. (great catch btw) Pujols mis-played a foul ball and left the bases loaded. (while missing the grand slam by 2 feet and a robbed of an extra base hit by a great catch.)
Also, give credit to the Rockies. They are struggling now. But they are the defending NL Champs. Don’t be surprised when they show up to play in the 8th inning of a home game.
by Evilfrog on
May 8, 2008 10:50 AM EDT
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Yeah, it's really, really hard to sweep MLB teams in series especially at their home park.
Get a win today and the Cards can take 3 of 4.
by ICbirdfan on
May 8, 2008 10:52 AM EDT
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Coors isn't a bandbox anymore
but you still can’t feel safe there with a three-run lead against the Rockies lineup.
Personally, I think we got hosed on that call.
by cardsfanindenver on
May 8, 2008 11:30 AM EDT
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BINGO!
Heck, if Albert catches the foul ball, the game’s over! lboros’ analysis confirms what I thought I had been seeing from Izzy; not missing as many bats. He hasn’t had the movement on his cutter recently—that’s been his “swing-and-miss” pitch in recent years.
Pitchers go through slumps just as hitters do—if Izzy regains the movement on the cutter, he’ll start missing more bats. I dunno if he wasn’t getting enough “break” on his curve warming up last night or not, but that could be a reason he threw nothing but fastballs. Coors still does weird things to breaking balls, humidor or no…
Were I TLR, I’d give Izzy the day off today; let Springer close. I don’t think it’s time to give up on Izzy just yet!
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on
May 8, 2008 12:21 PM EDT
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Give Izzy the day off
I think the best outcome for today would be that we put up a big enough lead that the point becomes moot. It’d be nice to occasionally win a game where we don’t need a closer.
If we can’t do that against this pitcher with his 5.22 career BB/9, then we’ve got a more serious problem than winning some acceptable portion of the close ones.
I’d like to see the offense put up crooked numbers early, Lohse go six or seven, and Parisi finish the game from there. Bullpen would be fresh heading to Milwaukee and the team rolling along again.
by liam on
May 8, 2008 1:22 PM EDT
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Ahem
That’s Professor Dreadsocks. We are talking about a scientist here.
by mattybobo on
May 8, 2008 11:16 AM EDT
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I love how his helmet falls off 20 times a game! He should just not wear one.
by ICbirdfan on
May 8, 2008 11:34 AM EDT
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Chinstrap, baby, chinstrap
Go all Little League on us.
by cardsgirl95 on
May 8, 2008 11:44 AM EDT
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I'd like to see the full helmet -- you know, Terry Pendelton style with both ears covered.
That might help his helmet stay on.
by Ray Lankford on
May 8, 2008 12:08 PM EDT
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Or, with all that hair
He might resemble Gazoo from The Flintstones…..hehe
Personally, I think we got hosed on that call.
by cardsfanindenver on
May 8, 2008 1:10 PM EDT
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That' my favorite, too!!
It reminds me of growing up in Cleveland when Kenny Lofton would play CF and if he was running down a ball in the OF, it was almost like he knocked it off on purpose bc it was in the way.
Hats/helmets falling off just makes me smile bc whether or not the player is giving 100% it makes it seem like he is giving 150%!!!
by joecardsfan on
May 9, 2008 10:42 AM EDT
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Appreciate your remarks about Izzy
I agree: He does not deserve the vitriol that gets heaped on him by so many people. It’s possible to acknowledge his failures and question his role on the team without treating him as if he is phoning it in or doesn’t care. Besides, he had a lot of help in losing that game last night.
Tino Martinez: Now there was a guy worth booing.
by Youneverknow on
May 8, 2008 10:18 AM EDT
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yeah
the anti-izzy anger always baffled me, especially considering how awful some of the closers in the pre-izzy era were
CUTTER BAD!! NO CUTTER!
by Valatan on
May 8, 2008 12:29 PM EDT
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Izzy anger
My recollection of the anger was not at Izzy, who did his best when he was hurt. The issues that I recall dealt with (1) the absurd denial that he had a medical problem and (2) continuing to use him when he clearly couldn’t pitch well. The organization has a history of misleading assurances about medical issues; and TLR refused to accept the evidence of Izzy’s ineffectiveness until far too late.
Deja vu, all over again.
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May 8, 2008 1:29 PM EDT
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P-Rizzle
So in Memphis you can basically stand right on top of the bullpen. The rest of the guys in the pen called him P-Rizzle. I like that.
Also, when he closed the game i attended with 3 K’s, hitting 97-98, I heard the Sky Sox pen commenting on how “its izzy’s contract year” etc. People are definitely watching.
by cd on
May 8, 2008 10:25 AM EDT
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I voted Perez
but only because I believe that Wellmeyer is, in this moment, not effectively replaceable in our rotation. Otherwise he would have been my choice (and, I bet, Duncan’s one too).
GO CARDS!!!
by SuperSeve on
May 8, 2008 10:25 AM EDT
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Izzy?
If Izzy is demoted, what role would he take? Would he be willing to accept setting up for X?
by njnick on
May 8, 2008 10:28 AM EDT
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One more thing
If he is going to set-up, arent we just running into the problem one inning earlier?
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May 8, 2008 10:29 AM EDT
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mop up/DL
if izzy isnt closing he will be relegating to mopping up in low leverage situations. it is also possible he will be placed on the DL.
by dmb60614 on
May 8, 2008 10:37 AM EDT
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My plan
This whole discussion is likely pointless because TLR is going to stick with Izzy until Izzy admits that he is hurt or done. TLR is not going to remove Izzy from the closer’s role. Anyway, if this does come to a head then my vote goes for McClellan. He shows similar stuff and makeup to Wainwright when he was installed as closer. Furthermore, it leaves Franklin and Springer in familiar roles. You can bring up Perez to take McClellan’s current spot and start getting him ready to be the closer next year when McClellan (presumably) moves to the rotation. A similar role shuffle took place in 2006 and it didn’t turn out half bad.
by indakind on
May 8, 2008 10:31 AM EDT
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Agreed
My vote for McClellan was based on similar thinking. He’s got the repertoire to strike people out. Wagonmaker benefited mentally from closing, perhaps McClellan will also in preparing for a spot in the rotation.
by apierce on
May 8, 2008 11:00 AM EDT
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Kudos to Izzy
I’m with you, LB. For all the drama over the years, Izzy has long been The Man. The personal diatribes against the old warhorse are sad and embarrassing. I do agree his day is probably done—but how about letting him go out with dignity. After all, it’s Tony’s decision to keep putting him out there, and you all know damn well Izzy is doing his best to succeed. His best may not be good enough anymore, but to boo and insult him does nothing but make us look like Cubfans. If anything, that kind of behavior will just make Tony dig in and use him more to prove his friendship and
