St. Louis @ Colorado GameThread, May 5, 2008 8:35 PM EDT

Game 33 Open Thread: May 5, 2008

by lboros on May 5, 2008 7:15 PM EDT

St. Louis @ Colorado


Pineiro	Jimenez
2-2, 3.75	1-2, 5.90

my, but the rockies are suffering this year. they're not hitting --- 12th in the league in scoring, 10th in home runs --- and they're pitching even worse (15th in team ERA). they've gone 2-10 against the top teams in their division (arizona and los angeles), and all those great young players who propelled the team last year have come a cropper in 2008. tonight's pitcher, ubaldo jimenez, has walked 22 men in 29 innings; the closer, manny corpas, has an 8.62 era; and troy tulowitzki was hitting .152 with no power before he went out with a wrist injury (he's gone until july). it's to the point that kip wells ought to be starting for this team; since his fine opening day spot-start vs our team he has thrown 14.1 innings of effective relief.

i'll preprogram an overflow thread to open at about 9:00 central time.

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Well,

This is the second “real test” of the Cardinals—14 road games in 21 days, all against above .500 teams from last season.

Here’s to a Rocky Mountain High…of a sweep!!

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by MilCardFan on May 5, 2008 7:17 PM EDT 0 recs

Enjoy being at the game tonite.

Go Birds! Lets sweep!

by birdsonthehat on May 5, 2008 7:25 PM EDT 0 recs

Reds 3 Cubs 0

in the 1st…

by LukeMP1186 on May 5, 2008 7:31 PM EDT 0 recs

Dempster becomes 3rd starting pitcher in 4 games

for the Cubs to walk the bases loaded

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by Hardcore Legend on May 5, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up 0 recs

wow

just wow. Lou isn’t going to make it through the week if that keeps up.

by Evilfrog on May 5, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up 0 recs

dude's gonna blow a gasket

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 5, 2008 8:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

I assume you meant

walk in a run with the bases loaded.

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by stltrav09 on May 5, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up 0 recs

No

what I meant was hand out walks in the first inning to load the bases.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 5, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up 0 recs

Bi-Polar Betty

Didn’t walk in a run last night.

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by ColinMacLeod on May 5, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up 0 recs

I never said he did

Friday Night:

B Barton Strikeout Swinging
R Ankiel Walk
A Pujols Walk; Ankiel to 2B
T Glaus Foul Popfly: 1B (1B Foul)
R Ludwick Walk; Ankiel to 3B; Pujols to 2B
Y Molina Walk; Ankiel Scores; Pujols to 3B; Ludwick to 2B
Michael Wuertz replaces Rich Hill pitching and batting 9th
C Izturis Popfly: SS (Short LF-CF)

Last Night:

Bottom of the 1st, Cardinals Batting, Tied 0-0, Jason Marquis facing 1-2-3
S Schumaker Groundout: SS-1B (Weak SS-2B)
A Kennedy Walk
A Pujols Strikeout Swinging
R Ankiel Walk; Kennedy to 2B
T Glaus Walk; Kennedy to 3B; Ankiel to 2B
C Duncan Lineout: 1B (2B-1B)

And then tonight, Dempster gave up a couple singles and then walked Encarnacion to load ‘em up.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 5, 2008 7:41 PM EDT up 0 recs

I was agreeing with you. :)

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by ColinMacLeod on May 5, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up 0 recs

there was only 1 walk that inning

the on that scored the run

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by stltrav09 on May 5, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up 0 recs

bet the Cards

make Ubaldo Jimenez look like a Cy Young canidate.

by OKCARDSFAN_411 on May 5, 2008 7:31 PM EDT 0 recs

I hope not

since I benched him on my fantasy team.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 5, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up 0 recs

Hope not...

Jimenez’s line 4/3 @ Busch:

5.0, 7 H, 3 ER, 5 BB, 4 K

by LukeMP1186 on May 5, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up 0 recs

I thought..

Tulowitzki went down with a torn tendon in his left quadricep.

by Evilfrog on May 5, 2008 7:32 PM EDT 0 recs

he did...

... and Wells probably would be in the rotation, but he’s on the DL also. LB’s off his game tonight.

; )

by kindred on May 5, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up 0 recs

Rockies

are having the infamous W.S. hangover!

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 5, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up 0 recs

Cubs hitting coached just got tossed.

man they are in a serious funk right now. Glad we could contribute to that.

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by stltrav09 on May 5, 2008 7:37 PM EDT 0 recs

Soto drills a pitch

some test this guy. He went from below average prospect to Bench in span of 1.5 seasons.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 5, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up 0 recs

someone*

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 5, 2008 7:38 PM EDT up 0 recs

Miles is playing short

and hitting ninth…

by mikeonthecards on May 5, 2008 7:38 PM EDT 0 recs

Also worth following

Mark Mulder’s penultimate rehab start, gameday here.

by liam on May 5, 2008 7:40 PM EDT 0 recs

How did Jayson Nix get sent down?

I thought he was out of options.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 5, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up 0 recs

DFA'd

on 4/26 and cleared waivers. He was outrighted on the 30th.

by liam on May 5, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up 0 recs

The bigger question is

What is with his parents’ fascination of putting needless y’s in their sons’ first names? Laynce, Jayson…

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by Mr Redbird on May 5, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up 0 recs

I thought Parisi was...

I thought Parisi was starting cause Pinero’s back? If that isn’t the case than why in hell did we send down Reyes for Parisi?

by FlimtotheFlam on May 5, 2008 7:46 PM EDT 0 recs

For insurance purposes.

I asked Jeff Gordon about this in today’s chat. He said Parisi is just insurance, and will likely get sent back down after tonight and they’ll bring up a reliever.

by mikeonthecards on May 5, 2008 7:48 PM EDT up 0 recs

If a reliever comes up than who do you think it will be?

My guess would be Worrell. He is older and has had good numbers so far this year.

by FlimtotheFlam on May 5, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up 0 recs

My guess

is that the organization would prefer Worrell, but he didn’t get much of a look in ST. Motte would be a solid choice.

I just hope that it won’t be Kelvin Jimenez.

by liam on May 5, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up 0 recs

Rumor has it

That Pinero had back issues and might not be able to go. So they brought up Parisi. There is still some concern how deep Pinero can go. If his back starts acting up Parisi will be able to stand in.

by Evilfrog on May 5, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up 0 recs

LOL

They are interviewing Parisi right now. He said he was at the mall get some pizza when got The Call. He paid for the pizza, set it down, and ran out of the mall.

by Evilfrog on May 5, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up 0 recs

Kip Wells

was DL’d due to a blood clot and will have surgery tomorrow at Barnes in the Lou. Best wishes for a speedy recovery.

He had surgery for a blood clot in 2006 as well.

by liam on May 5, 2008 7:51 PM EDT 0 recs

Oh man.

That’s never good. Best wishes Kip.

by Evilfrog on May 5, 2008 7:53 PM EDT up 0 recs

that's the scariest stuf

the blood clot thing. almost got Tony Gwynn! how do you even know that’s about to happen…

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 5, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up 0 recs

Let's see how Mulder does tonight

against a team that’s not playing .900 baseball. I’m not saying we should excuse his last start, because we shouldn’t, but I sure would like to see him put up a great line tonight.

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by Mr Redbird on May 5, 2008 7:54 PM EDT 0 recs

double to lead off...

not a great start.

by longhornscardinals on May 5, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

Ominous

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by Mr Redbird on May 5, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

On a ground ball, though

Hitting the next batter is worse.

by liam on May 5, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up 0 recs

And then an attempted bunt by their #3 hitter

You think TLR will try that tonight?

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by Mr Redbird on May 5, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up 0 recs

Um.

No, I do not think tony is going to have Albert bunt with 2 on and no outs.

by Evilfrog on May 5, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up 0 recs

Bottom feeders

his start tonight’s against the worst team in the PCL Pac North. His last one will be against the PCL-worst Tuscon Sidewinders.

Guess those two organizations have harvested the upper levels of their farms.

by liam on May 5, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up 0 recs

and now a HBP.

sweet.

by longhornscardinals on May 5, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up 0 recs

dont want to make excuses for the guy...

but the majority of his damage has come off ground balls. leadoff double was a grounder, a walk, two groundouts, one of which scored a runner, and a single that was a grounder to score another runner.

by longhornscardinals on May 5, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up 0 recs

Not the A-Team defense

Especially on the right side of the infield.

by liam on May 5, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up 0 recs

Hey

Uncle Rico is playing 1st. Has he done that before?

by Evilfrog on May 5, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up 0 recs

2 ER in the first

lead off hitter in second singles

by gocards62 on May 5, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up 0 recs

Geez oh man

Dunn KILLED THAT. Almost left the park.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 5, 2008 8:04 PM EDT 0 recs

logging on and seeing the Cubs down four runs to Cincy

is a beautiful thing indeed….

by nota bene on May 5, 2008 8:12 PM EDT 0 recs

Yeah

Cincy could really use a sweep right about now.

by Evilfrog on May 5, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up 0 recs

Mulder given up 2 runs in the first

i reaaaaaaaaaallly hope that management doesn’t make the mistake of bringing him back to this team

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 5, 2008 8:14 PM EDT 0 recs

like i posted above...

he doesn’t seem to be getting hit too hard. everythings been grounders so far, of the seeing-eye variety.

by longhornscardinals on May 5, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up 0 recs

Are you watching? Or just using gameday

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by Mr Redbird on May 5, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up 0 recs

Ah

I see HL’s reply below

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by Mr Redbird on May 5, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'm watching

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by Hardcore Legend on May 5, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up 0 recs

Are you watching it?

I am. Two well placed groundballs.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 5, 2008 8:16 PM EDT up 0 recs

I wasn't watching

so they were seeing eye hits? that’s not so bad then

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by Raconteur on May 5, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up 0 recs

Runs are Runs

They don’t count less if they are scored on ground balls instead of upper deck HRs.

by DriverZn on May 5, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up 0 recs

But they do make a difference in rehab starts

there is a huge difference between a seeing eye single and a moon shot HR when you are judging how a pitcher is progressing through rehab.

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by Raconteur on May 5, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up 0 recs

exactly.

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by Hardcore Legend on May 5, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up 0 recs

The complete inability to miss bats

is just as bad as giving up the occasional HR. Both lead to runs.

by DriverZn on May 5, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up 0 recs

Are you dumb?

You can keep a hitter off balance and still have him poke a single, if a hitter hits a HR it means he is not fooled at all. There is a huge difference when judging a pitchers rehab.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 5, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up 0 recs

by the way, i'm not saying Mulder is any good

I still think he is worthless, i’m just pointing out the obvious

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by Raconteur on May 5, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up 0 recs

Where the heck

did that come from?

by liam on May 5, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

Didn't gibson once lead the league in HRs given up.

Any ball put into play has about a 30% chance of becoming a hit. If Mulder cannot get any swing and miss outs at AAA then he isn’t going to survive in the MLB.

All pitchers give up HRs. Sometimes the hitter gets lucky.

If mulder cannot miss bats in AAA, they are going to light him up good up here.

by DriverZn on May 5, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

the cubs look like they're in the doghouse all the sudden

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 5, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up 0 recs

Crazy game

In the middle of the fourth, FOURTEEN BATTERS have struck out already.

by liam on May 5, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up 0 recs

wow

yeah, I just turned it on while cueto was pitching

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 5, 2008 8:19 PM EDT up 0 recs

how are you watching HL?

"He was trying to hit a three run homer with the bases empty. To my knowledge, no one in the history of the game has ever done that. But it could happen someday. You never know in this world of baseball." The Moonman

by mattyfrommo on May 5, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up 0 recs

Mulder update

1 IP 2 ER 2 H 1 HBP 0 BB 0 K

His AAA ERA is now sitting at a cool 17.36

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by Mr Redbird on May 5, 2008 8:15 PM EDT 0 recs

Speaking of which

this ‘Rocky’ theme song for the bird is beyond annoying. What is this, the Wiggles?

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by Hardcore Legend on May 5, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up 0 recs

heh

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 5, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up 0 recs

Another pitiful start underway by Mulder ...

this guy is completely on the wrong track … he just can’t pitch anymore … extended ST, here we come … It’s very good we’re not hurting for him right now …

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by Cardinals4Ever on May 5, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up 0 recs

yeah

I just hope they don’t feel the need to play him just based on money

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 5, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up 0 recs

Exactly ... but there not in that position ...

thanks to what Welley and Loop are doing right now …

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by Cardinals4Ever on May 5, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up 0 recs

yeah

those guys have been amazing, considering they’re pretty much more bullpen guys. and we’ve got enough of a bullpen to back them up. it’s worked out quite nicely so far, even though it’s a bit unorthodox

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 5, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up 0 recs