Game 57 Open Thread- 31st May, 2008
by the red baron on May 31, 2008 6:01 PM EDT
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Paul Maholm Mike Parisi
2-5, 5.11 0-1, 2.87
How many years now have we been talking about the Pirates' young, talented rotation, and expecting them to break out? I remember when Zach Duke came up and pitched just lights out a couple of years ago. The future was now for Pittsburgh. The same for Ian Snell, when he came up and just struck hitters out just left and right. Still, a couple of years later, and Pittsburgh still finds themselves below .500, with a struggling rotation and an empty ballpark. I just don't get it.
How long is Parisi going to be able to go, I wonder? He hasn't made a start in almost a month, so his stamina is definitely going to be a question. He's gone multiple innings in most of his outings here in the majors, so it's not as bad as if he had been pitching in just single inning stints, but I still question the decision to go with Parisi here, over a pitcher who's been starting all along. You could have left Kelvin Jimenez down in Memphis, left Parisi in the pen, and brought up a starter from Triple A, who wouldn't have had the same questions in regards to his stamina. Oh well, I suppose that's why I'm not a major league manager.
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anyone?
I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!
by dangpenguins on May 31, 2008 6:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lineup
Ryan 2b
Mather Rf
Pujols 1b
Ludwick Lf
Glaus 3b
Ankiel Cf
LaRue c
Parisi P
Izturis ss
With mather starting in Right, does that mean he has a better arm then Luddy?
Yadi is my hero
by Big Phil on May 31, 2008 6:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This is an outfield
I’m VERY interested in. Should be above average defense. I look forward to seeing how they play.
by sdrone on May 31, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes I agree
Just put Molina at catcher and it is one of, if not the best, defense in baseball.
Yadi is my hero
by Big Phil on May 31, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fantastic
Except LaRue of course, but whaddayagunnado?
Think Skip is sweating a little bit?
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
Track 'em Tigers - An SB Nation Blog for Auburn Tigers fans
by Mr Redbird on May 31, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only if ...
Ryan can handle the leadoff duties. If they can’t find someone to be more successful than Skip in that role, then he doesn’t have to worry, yet. It would probably be best for the team if Ryan can figure out how to bring up his OBP and take control of 2B and the leadoff position. That, and if Mather takes control of providing what we expected from Duncan. I’d love to see an everyday that looked like
Ryan 4
Ankiel 8
Pujols 3
Ludwick 7
Glaus 5
Mather 9
Molina 2
Pitcher 1
Izturis 6
You could swap Ankiel and Mather if you want, but I’d prefer it this way.
by etp_stl on May 31, 2008 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I imagine stamina might be even more of a question since
we have close to summertime weather here today – upper 80s at game time, nice and humid.
by BTown Birds fan on May 31, 2008 6:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
So Duncan's supposed to start for Memphis against
Albuquerque tonight, right?
OT, I used to live in Albuquerque; that is an absolutely awesome place to watch a baseball game (I used to watch the Dukes there; now they’re the Isotopes, courtesy of the Simpsons). It cools down nicely in the evening, hardly ever rains, you get to watch the sunset reflected against the mountains as the game progresses…very nice.
by BTown Birds fan on May 31, 2008 6:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I have a program with
Oral, Sid Fernandez, Mike Marshall, Greg Brock, Franco and a couple others I can’t think of off the top of my head.
The Lava rock outfield is something you don’t see every day.
by Harknights on May 31, 2008 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's cool. I remember seeing Kirk Gibson there when he was on a
rehab assignment. I’m pretty sure this was the year after his WS HR against Eckersley, and it was very exciting for adolescent baseball-obsessed me.
And I agree, the lava rock outfield is a nice unique touch.
by BTown Birds fan on May 31, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe it "hardly ever rains"
but absolutely the most spectacular thunderstorm I’ve ever seen in my life - and that’s going some - washed out a game we were watching there, the same night that Bonds, curse his name, hit #755. I even blogged about it.
Won’t make it to tonight’s Birds-Isos game, but I’ll be at Monday’s.
by StanTheManFan on May 31, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lets here it for Parisi and his first start!
Our starting rotation could be very formidable in the second half of the season and for the next couple of years
by poohrat on May 31, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It could be
But it won’t be because of Parisi
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
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by Mr Redbird on May 31, 2008 7:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well I think he could be
a nice inning eater. If he can get out of this one
by poohrat on May 31, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looks like the rain is coming in ...
just in time for the game. I’m in St. Charles County, and the rain is already starting. We’ll probably have some kind of delay tonight.
by etp_stl on May 31, 2008 7:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Parisi is going to have to get it down.
He’s throwing a lot of stuff up in the zone.
by etp_stl on May 31, 2008 7:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anyone watching on mlb.tv...
Have some crazy rewinds happening on the video feed and/or missing the top FSN info bar w/ the score, outs, innings, etc.?
Could just be my system.
by dj tanner on May 31, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
nope, here too
very annoying.
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
by SleepyCA on May 31, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mlb.tv is frustrating...
it’s handy and is great when you are out of your team’s market (as I am) but their features do not work at all, like Mosaic…open that on a Mac and your system will freeze immediately.
by dj tanner on May 31, 2008 7:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Open it on a PC and it works just fine :)
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on May 31, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it works for me on Mac.
It’s just super slow. How old is your computer?
On with the (good) youth movement!
by aet15 on May 31, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I know I'd rather
follow the game via Gameday than mess around w/ Vista. I’ll never go back to a P.C.
Computer is close to 2 years old…macbook…everything else runs fine. And really, is it even worth having Mosaic run “super slow”? Doesn’t that eliminate any gains from the technology?
by dj tanner on May 31, 2008 7:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
XP
all the way. The hell with Vista. I refuse to upgrade. My freaking system works just fine right now and I don’t want or need to be messing with it when it’s stable. I can’t stand this constant update hamster wheel shit….drives me nuts.
At least MS could make sure the damn things worked correctly before they released them….they don’t even do that.
by nota bene on May 31, 2008 7:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No kidding
2 years of XP with this laptop and 3-4 on the desktop without the slightest problem of compatibility or otherwise…
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on May 31, 2008 7:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think they're gonna get this game in
which is too bad, cause I want to see this Mather-Ank-Thudwick outfield….
by nota bene on May 31, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
3-0
shit. hopefully it starts pouring real soon….
by nota bene on May 31, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
come on, rain
give us a break for once…
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
by SleepyCA on May 31, 2008 7:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
New strategy
keep Parisi in and let them score 20 runs so that the rain comes in the 4th.
by enoscountry on May 31, 2008 7:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that strategy
works a lot better when your offense helps…
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
by SleepyCA on May 31, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Uh oh
Parisi’s looking none too hot
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
by bjork24 on May 31, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Where was Ankiel on that hit?
Gameday makes it look pretty close to center
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
by bjork24 on May 31, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
how about that rain?
we’re owed one after opening day. Time for some reverse luck?
On with the (good) youth movement!
by aet15 on May 31, 2008 7:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
was just thinking that
the weather owes us one. Let’s see if the Baseball Gods agree….
by nota bene on May 31, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The ominous four run first inning
Have we ever come back from that? I know we sure didn’t against Houston.
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
by bjork24 on May 31, 2008 7:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
...
“When you walk Luis Rivas, you are asking for trouble.”—Immanuel Kant
Brian Gunn
by briangunn on May 31, 2008 7:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not very good
can’t you guys take longer to make outs?
by nota bene on May 31, 2008 7:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Rain, rain
please hurry. Parisi needs help
by gocards62 on May 31, 2008 7:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i thought mike was a good pitcher?
WTF up with the 4 run first?
and what did our guys do vs a guy with a 5.11 ERA in their half of the first? seriously, i walked away for 30 seconds & the inning was over, what did they do? swing at the first pitch and make outs? geesh.
that’s pathetic.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on May 31, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
What does Parisi look like..
Visibly? What do his mechanics look like.. overhard, sidearm, etc?
I’m watching it on Gameday and it’s none too pretty.
by KeepOnRolen on May 31, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i'm not sure what everhard means,
but he’s not a side armer.
he looks like crap. every thing is up & over the middle of the plate.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on May 31, 2008 7:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
larue is terrible at framing pitches
there’s been two or three pitches that were close enough to be strikes that he made no effort to sell.
You’re there for your defense, dude…
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
by SleepyCA on May 31, 2008 7:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It’s pretty much raining all the way out 70 to Columbia, and it’s moving E.
by nota bene on May 31, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i don't know
this radar shows it will only last a couple of hours.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on May 31, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, that's uncool
mlb.tv showed the darn 0-1 pitch 3 times- i kept thinking “strike 3”
Christ, 4 times now.
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
by SleepyCA on May 31, 2008 7:44 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
can we maybe get some throws to first?
or maybe Duncan can take a leisurely stroll to the mound…..
by nota bene on May 31, 2008 7:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he'll be the anti-Pineiro
Instead of starting off strong and then suddenly going to hell in the late innings, Parisi will start off with the suck and then lock ‘em down the rest of the game.
by Andyfantastic on May 31, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
about time Troy
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on May 31, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
every one needed that HR
too bad Rick swung right threw some good pitches
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on May 31, 2008 7:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Is Paul Maholm wearing eyeliner in his pic?
GO CRY EMO KID
by Andyfantastic on May 31, 2008 7:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i could have sworn that was a taylor made DP
why the heck was our SS playing so far away that he had to dive, and he still couldn’t get there?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on May 31, 2008 8:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought it was gonna be a doubleplay there too
Losing is a disease
by ANDYAK47 on May 31, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
nah, that was in the hole
I’m, at least 3 minutes behind you, lol…
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
by SleepyCA on May 31, 2008 8:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jesus, get a load of Parisi's pitch count.
by Andyfantastic on May 31, 2008 8:02 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he'll be at 100
by the end of the 4th at this rate.
by nota bene on May 31, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The sad thing is
even if it rains, TLR’s gonna have to make a switch soon, wasting another pitcher.
We need to send Parisi back to Memphis for AReyes or Boggs.
by gocards62 on May 31, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
may pinch hit for him in the next inning and
bring in jimenez for long relief
Losing is a disease
by ANDYAK47 on May 31, 2008 8:05 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
save us, kelvin jiminez...
save us!!!
j/k, but man.
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
by SleepyCA on May 31, 2008 8:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
should yank him NOW
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
by themanthemyth on May 31, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
this is like watching Mulder & Marquis detonate agains the White Sox
NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
by nota bene on May 31, 2008 8:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Parisi is awful
I dont get how you can be good in relief and then just horrid as a starter
Losing is a disease
by ANDYAK47 on May 31, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
starting and relieving
are pretty different animals. a guy can unload in relief b/c he needn’t worry about fatigue. he can also get by with fewer pitches b/c hitters don’t have as many reps (as they would vs. a starter) to adjust to his repertoire.
by briangunn on May 31, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But, he's getting shelled the first time through.
I know, in general you are right; but the first time through should be similar.
by etp_stl on May 31, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was really my point there
Losing is a disease
by ANDYAK47 on May 31, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i'm guessing
as nota bene says, the difficulties of adjusting your pace and your stamina between starting and relieving is what goofed him up. but that’s just a guess—who knows. maybe the bucs would have tattooed him if he came in as a reliever too. i mean, his numbers are good, but i’ve not been THAT impressed with parisi even out of the pen.
by briangunn on May 31, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It might have just been a bad night.
He seemed to be leaving everything up in the zone. He was probably a little amped up making his first start, and he had trouble getting on top of the pitches. How often has he worked with LaRue? Why would you use your 2nd catcher with a guy’s first outting? We’ll have to see how he responds if he gets another chance.
by etp_stl on May 31, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so, after this stellar performance by Mike
will Joel make his next start?
or will they let Mike have anther start?
or will they keep Joel on the DL & bring up some one else from Memphis?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on May 31, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope not
I have tix for the game Thurs. in DC.
by gocards62 on May 31, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jesus
80 pitches (45 strikes)
2.2 IP (19 batters)
8H, 5R, 3BB, 2K.
by nota bene on May 31, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Unquality start
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on May 31, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that 1st pitch looked good on gameday
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
by themanthemyth on May 31, 2008 8:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
im out, this was bullsh!t
How depressing is it being you? Is it closer to being a lifelong cubs fan or being born without lips? - Janitor
by themanthemyth on May 31, 2008 8:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well screw you too kelvin
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on May 31, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Make that two bus tix for Memphis
please.
by gocards62 on May 31, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, Kelvin, how we've missed you
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on May 31, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
welcome back, kelvin.
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
by SleepyCA on May 31, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Please explain why
this guy is on the team.
by Harknights on May 31, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's one of Duncan's favorites from what I hear
by KYCards on May 31, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
need to balance out the groundball pichers
with line drive pitchers
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on May 31, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Ok if I said
just watch this guy. He has a 1.20 ERA. Wouldn’t you say. Really?!? How?
He looks very hittable to me.
by Harknights on May 31, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For some reason they like him better than Mark Worrell
The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.
by coachnick39 on May 31, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in all my years following the cardinals...
i’ve only seen three pitchers who seem completely utterly unequipped to get out major league hitters, even occasionally: andy cavazos, brady raggio, and kelvin jiminez. what’s odd, though, is that jiminez’s numbers in AAA are quite respectable.
by briangunn on May 31, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Man, I sure am glad
We have Jimenez and Parisi on the roster instead of Anthony Reyes a guy who has thrown a one hitter and pitched in the World Series.
These guys are clearly better.
by OCCardsFan on May 31, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
good night for aaron miles
maybe miles and kennedy can both pitch tonight.
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
by SleepyCA on May 31, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Looking at the map it should be storming in St. Louis like 15 min ago
by KYCards on May 31, 2008 8:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
they are talking about a delay...
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
by SleepyCA on May 31, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Who woulda thought?
If you throw in the low 90s belt-high all night, then even the Pirates will hit it.
by etp_stl on May 31, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
keep fouling them off, nady
get us to the rain delay.
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
by SleepyCA on May 31, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i think i know whats going on here
Tony is just as sick of the flubs & jay bruce getting all the love from the media as we are. so he told mike & kelvin to screw the pooch for the first few innings & let the Pirates get a big lead. then the rain delay will hit & maholm will be taken out. once he’s out the O will wake up & come roaring back & the Cards will win with a dramatic walk off home run by Joey Bombs.
at least that’s what i’m telling myself is happening here.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
by gdm426 on May 31, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Didn't the flubs come back from eight runs down?
If they can do it, so can we!!!!
please rain. please rain. please rain. please rain.
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
by bjork24 on May 31, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
9-1 to be precise
but we have to wait for the 6th to make our comeback if we want to copy the cubs
by briangunn on May 31, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey, some very good pitchers
have started their careers with ERAs over 50.
Haven’t they?
REALLY?
by StanTheManFan on May 31, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Exclusive breaking news
Jay Bruce is pretty good. I wonder if they are interested in like a power hitting lefty 1B like the Giants.
"Regression to the mean is so much more fun to watch when it’s a Cub who is regressing." SleepyCA
by joker24 on May 31, 2008 8:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
yeah. so . um.
why didnt we call up Reyes for this start?? cuz this so better.
I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!
by dangpenguins on May 31, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
parisi did his best Reyes impression!
by ICbirdfan on May 31, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh God
I hope not. I am not sure I can take another basketcase like Reyes.
At least with Parisi, when it goes wrong … it really goes wrong and there is no doubt whether to leave him in or take him out and whether or not you pitch him again like this.
At least Parisi answers our questions … even if they are disappointing answers.
by Egyptian on May 31, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No Kidding.
If we are not going to AT LEAST use Reyes in starts like this, then for both of our benefits we need to get rid of him.
Plus, now we have messed up Parisi.
Genius.
by Egyptian on May 31, 2008 8:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if parisi is messed up by this
worse than being a bit upset, going out and getting hammered and stumbling home (probably would have been better if lil’dunc was there to help with that bit), then he was never going to be a major league pitcher in the first place. These guys aren’t as fragile as we think they are.
"the hardest decision to make is to do nothing; there is a terrible temptation to interfere." -gen patton
by SleepyCA on May 31, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It would affect me
if in my first Big League Start, something I have waited my whole life for, I get lit up like a Roman Candle.
Got to put at least a little doubt in his head about whether he can do this. Probably he can shake it off, but it is not like he is going home tonight saying, I know I am a quality major league stater.
by Egyptian on May 31, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If I remember correctly
Dan Haren got completely lit up in his first big league start against the cubs. He turned out ok.
by thewizard3 on May 31, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jimenez
put up the best at bat, that inning!
by chicagocardfan on May 31, 2008 8:22 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
OT--anybody else see the NYY v. DRays game in '05. . .
when the Yanks scored 13 in the eighth? Piniella left Travis Harper in to lose 20-11. Guy gave up 9 runs on 8 hits. This game kinda reminds me. . .
by gocards62 on May 31, 2008 8:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Looks like people are already headed for the exits
and not a raindrop in sight. Stadium cam
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
by bjork24 on May 31, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
north county
raining like crazy here. there is hope!
I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!
by dangpenguins on May 31, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope there's more where that came from
Because it’s going to be done in about 30 minutes.
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
by bjork24 on May 31, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mather
has a long swing. Reminds me of Glaus. He needs to shorten that swing a little.
by Egyptian on May 31, 2008 8:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i thought the same thing
ludwick seems to me to have a longish swing too, although don’t tell that to anyone who pitches in the national league
by briangunn on May 31, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree with you
on Ludwick to a degree, but Ludwick’s swing is quicker. At least it is now, it is certainly the type of swing that injuries can slow down (which maybe explains why he has been in the minors so long).
Mather just seems to have a long swing period. I would say longer than Ludwick and very similar to Glaus. I think Mather’s numbers reflect that a little too in that he has a good deal of home runs relative to RPIs and single base hits. Of his minor league hits, 20 out of 40 were for extra bases. When he hits it, he hits it well, but he doesn’t seem to hit it that often and a long swing in the majors is naturally going to have holes that good big league pitchers are going to exploit.
He is probably going to be something of a mistake hitter over time unless he can shorten his swing and be more responsive to pitches.
by Egyptian on May 31, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
good way of putting it
ludwick’s swing seems long but quick, which should serve him well until he loses some milliseconds off his bat speed
by briangunn on May 31, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its raining heavy west of park
slow things down…......
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 31, 2008 8:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh look, Pujols advanced to third on the pop-out.
Isn’t that cute? It’s like he thinks we have a chance.
by Andyfantastic on May 31, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I still always appreciate hustle and good play.
by etp_stl on May 31, 2008 8:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Me too, I'm just being a douche.
by Andyfantastic on May 31, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
in game 4 of the 2004 world series
pujols was on first in the bottom of the 9th, cards down 3-0, no one out, flyout to right, and i swear to god pujols was about to tag and go to second on the flyball. granted that was the world series, but the guy never EVER gives up, never concedes a base if he can take it (or even, sometimes, when he can’t).
by briangunn on May 31, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Alright Kelvin, here's the plan
Hit McLouth in the ribs, then yell something at him, and let’s slow this game down!!!
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
by bjork24 on May 31, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Gameday says "fan interference" on McLouth's double.
Wha’ happen?
by Andyfantastic on May 31, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Holy cow
I’d forgotten what it felt like to be on the losing side of a true blowout
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
by bjork24 on May 31, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wtf wow, we are giving up bombs to guys who dont hit bombs
Losing is a disease
by ANDYAK47 on May 31, 2008 8:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
How much of this
can we blame on LaRue? I absolutely hate when he catches. I know he seems to have a better arm than some of our previous backups, but the guy seems lost handling pitchers. Everytime I see his name on the lineup card I think it is 50-50 that our pitcher will be lit up. Maybe LaRue is tipping pitches back there or something?
by Egyptian on May 31, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Kelvin needs a one way ticket to Memphis
horrible call-up.
by KYCards on May 31, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I think he should be released or traded. he is not a major league pitcher and is just keeping people from growing even at AAA.
I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.
by madding on May 31, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
right
I don’t care how he throws in AAA, he is just blocking prospects. I will be very disappointed if he ever throws another pitch for the Cardinals organization,
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on May 31, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
jimenez is the only player on the roster i have no respect for. and how is it that the pirates have our number in most of the games we’ve played? it seems like they’re a little too competitive for a bad team.
by barry whiteteeth on May 31, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They are really not that bad of a team
they have just had to play the Cubs alot this year so it seems like they are
by KYCards on May 31, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
even if they're not that bad
it seems like the cards have been making them look a lot better this season
by barry whiteteeth on May 31, 2008 8:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
they've scored 11 runs
against us twice already this year, which is our season high in terms of runs allowed
by briangunn on May 31, 2008 8:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
too bad
none of them are on my fantasy team
by barry whiteteeth on May 31, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
this is some poor kid's
first major league baseball game
by briangunn on May 31, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Larue came close to jacking a dong
I am gonna drink like he did. I hope nobody has a problem with that.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on May 31, 2008 8:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nothing's better than coming from behind
by jacking dongs all over the park. No dong is safe!
Sorry, that’s all I’ve got.
less dunca(i)n', more ludwickin'
by bjork24 on May 31, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Anybody else NOT looking foward to
watching looper throw tommorow?
by thewizard3 on May 31, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
could be worse
at least we won’t be seeing Jimenez. Wish Snell were ours, though.
by random on May 31, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Snell, BTW, has been walking a lot of batters lately
So there’s reason to think we’ll, umm, get a little better result than tonight
by random on May 31, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Aaron Miles
seriously should pitch in this game.
I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.
by madding on May 31, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ronny paulino
the last two years
vs. us: .338/.371/.568
vs. everyone else: .242/.300/.349
by briangunn on May 31, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
just call this stupid game already
watching them rebuild the mound is worse than watching Kennedy bat.
I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.
by madding on May 31, 2008 9:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
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