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9-3 Cubbies going into the 8th. 

I hope I didn't jinx Lohse too badly on Friday with the whole HR thing.  My bad.

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a rey looks

fabulous

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 3, 2008 6:10 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

at pitching balls?

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 6:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

it was sarcasm

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 3, 2008 6:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Actually he look like Duncan had been "fixing" him again

Velocity down, missing low and away with sloppy pitches.

by DriverZn on May 3, 2008 6:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

And, he can't help but fix him. He just can't. And he can't pitch that way. He tried last year.

I hope he gets through the ninth okay, that is if they let him.

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on May 3, 2008 6:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

He has always been shaky at the start of the game......if he only gets an inning to do his thing,

I just don’t see him having a lot of success in the pen. Not that it can’t happen given enough time to adjust, but if he pitches poorly he won’t get that time to adjust.

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on May 3, 2008 6:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

wow

Ludwick, didn’t know you had it in you

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 3, 2008 6:12 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

can we just take what we can get today?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 3, 2008 6:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

yes

pretty amazing. he’s been right on top of the ball on numerous occasions

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 3, 2008 6:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Is it?

looked like the ball bounced on the ground but on the glove leather.

by enoscountry on May 3, 2008 6:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Hey

there’s a Horsey race on soon!

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on May 3, 2008 6:13 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Does that mean

Schumaker should be have a good game?

by Evilfrog on May 3, 2008 6:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

.....yes

he should be have a good game…..

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on May 3, 2008 6:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i had to see a man abotu a horse once

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 3, 2008 6:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

*about

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 3, 2008 6:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

izzy like

but hey no runs so good job

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 3, 2008 6:14 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

scoreless inning

thanks to lots of help.

by longhornscardinals on May 3, 2008 6:15 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

BABIP luck

for Reyes is equaling out. He got hammered there.

by enoscountry on May 3, 2008 6:15 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Big Truck

doesn’t look like a favorite anymore

by enoscountry on May 3, 2008 6:16 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

or big brown

and of course he ends up winning

by enoscountry on May 3, 2008 6:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

then reyes needs alot of luck

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 3, 2008 6:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

all right

let’s bang up marmol

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 3, 2008 6:17 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Hopefully Marmol throws both innings here

Burn their best reliever for tomorrow.

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 3, 2008 6:18 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Silly Kennedy

He though Soriano played in Center.

by Evilfrog on May 3, 2008 6:18 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

another homer

would look nice here El Hombre

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 3, 2008 6:18 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

doh

I jinxed it. sorry about that.

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 3, 2008 6:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

but youll have to wait til sunday

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 3, 2008 6:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Wow

that K goes to McClellan

by enoscountry on May 3, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Man Pujols must have picked himself on his fantasy team he's going for BOMBS

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 3, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

easy there

Luddy

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 3, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Marmol is a stud

did I mention that?

by husker4cards on May 3, 2008 6:21 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

ugh, reyes is messed up again

Slinging the ball low and away to the hitters instead of driving it up in the zone. I don’t know if its Reyes being off or the coaches “fixing” him, but when he pitches like this he cannot get MLB hitters out.

by DriverZn on May 3, 2008 6:27 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

at least the changeup still works.

That makes like the 4th time he threw it this year.

by DriverZn on May 3, 2008 6:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

ok, that makes two

And on each he made hitters look silly.

by DriverZn on May 3, 2008 6:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Sigh, Maybe he's not as solid as everyone makes him out to be?

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 6:28 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

sloppy but effective

did that line drive just hit him? if it did, it didn’t even phase him

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 3, 2008 6:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Reyes is a much tougher dude than he gets credit for.

You don’t even show your face after last year unless you have ice water running in your veins. It is beneficial to work through a couple of bad inninings unscathed when you don’t have your control, command, or your stuff.

I tip my cap to you, Mr. Reyes. And your wonderful outfielders who helped in ways that allowed you to escape.

But hey, that’s what teams are supposed to do-pick each other up.

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on May 3, 2008 6:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I don't doubt his toughness

but when he’s touted as a closer, considering everything that’s been shown, that’s an adventure in itself. I like Reyes, but it’s getting more and more clear, if he develops, it won’t be under the arches.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 6:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I have never said I wanted him to close. I have said he should be in the starting

rotation or traded. Since field management didn’t think he was good enough to be in the rotation, he should have been traded right then. They’ve been trading him since 2005-except he’s still here. Just do it damnit! Getting a few mop up innings here and there isn’t doing anything for his trade value, it isn’t doing anything about keeping him sharp. It’s just stupid.

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on May 3, 2008 6:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I wasn't implying

that you said he should close. If you look down, and look during Izzy’s blow up yesterday that’s been the general tone, giving it to him. Somehow, someway, forgetting the fact that he has large issues settling in this year and last year, that as a closer you may go 5 games without a pitch thrown etc. That’s what I was referencing as touted.

And I agree, he does just need to go. But I don’t blame Mo and co on waiting on it. Reyes is one of the higher trade prospects in pitching out there. Sit on it till they’re desperate enough and get something of value.

He won’t be here by the end of the year, I’ll stand by that thought.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 6:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I disagree. They are playing with fire. If he gets hurt, there's nothing. If he can't

perform in his new role, one that I think everyone can acknowledge is going to be a tough transition, there’s even less value. Maybe he raises his value by gutting it out today. That’s what he did. GM’s like players that stay and fight. I do blame Mr. Mozeliak for not doing something. It’s stupid. Why would you even CARE about what you get? He DOES have to get him off of the roster. It’s not fair to anyone-Reyes, the minor leaguer (Jimenez!) that he’s blocking, and Dave and Tony still have to look at his face everyday! Mr. Mozeliak is using him to make a power play. I think it stinks.

I like Reyes. I don’t like that he has to go. I’m going to follow him to his new team, at least for awhile. That will make oh, so many of you all happy. Then I’ll finally shut up for real.

Cheers. Have a nice night.

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on May 3, 2008 7:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

As far as happiness, it makes me no difference to be honest. So I don’t know where that came from. However, on the blocking point. You can’t block someone if the person they are blocking can improve with more innings in AAA. Jimenez is not peaked in AAA, he can still gain from being there. So can Perez, Motte and the like. With all of the effective innings our starters are giving, there’s not many innings in play.

And I do care what we can get. Reyes is cost controlled for the next two years, he isn’t locked into the roster and can be put back in Memphis, Reyes is making a nice chunk of change irregardless of what he does, and that’s the contract he’s signed.

The players union does everything under the book to try and get the players everything they can, the team management deals with that. The team has every right to do what they need to do in regards to a player.

If this conversation was about Thompson, that’s one thing. But we’re talking about Reyes, who had a load of chances last year and frankly, didn’t show up.

Everyday he ups his value, irregardless of what he does on the field. That’s the economics of baseball. At the end of last year all he could do is go up and he is.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

The happiness comment is in reference to me and this site, and how

annoyed some on here get with me and my comments regarding Mr. Reyes.

Oh, he makes 2,500.00 over the minimum. And he didn’t sign the contract. They renewed him. He exercised his right to not sign; they exercised their right to pay him what they wanted to. They are doing exactly what they want; at this stage he can sit and take it, take it and scream publicly about it, or quit.

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on May 3, 2008 9:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

blocking Jimenez?

then he’s even more valuable than I thought! thankfully someone is keeping Jimenez off the roster…

I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.

by madding on May 4, 2008 5:53 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

There is no guarentee Duncan will be back next year.

His contract is up at the end of this year. Is Reyes suddenly more valuable if they don’t bring Duncan back? Mo would know his thinking on this far better than any of us.

We have a lot of holes in the 09 rotation, No set pitching coach for next year. Having a backup plan in Reyes makes a lot of sense in that context.

I get the impression that its more Duncan than TLR that dislikes Reyes.

by DriverZn on May 3, 2008 7:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yeah

Why wouldn’t you want to sit on a cost controlled pitcher who three teams have been open about shopping for?

The season is young, we were the team last year that had to look anywhere and everywhere for a pitcher. There will be new teams in that place this year. When they’re there, they’ll come with more to the table.

And if no one does, no harm, no foul. We have a new look at him next year and evaluate from there.

I do too, in regards to Dunc vs Reyes. There’s no harm in keeping a cost controlled guy around when your staff will empty out at the end of the year.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 7:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

There is if you are never going to use him!

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on May 3, 2008 9:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Sigh

1.) He’s third on the relievers list in innings pitched. He also carries an era of over 5. The two with a couple more innings, not a large amount mind you. Both carry an era under 2. I’d say he’s getting used.

2.) He signed the original contract that allowed them to renew. Now you’re splitting hairs on false points.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 4, 2008 8:13 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I'll take 6

I can wait till the 13th for the other one

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 6:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

A-Rey

is Anthony making a case to be our new closer?
Each inning he gave up a BB and a hit, then buckled down to get the outs.
sound like a closer we know and love?

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on May 3, 2008 6:32 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

yep

I wouldn’t mind seeing him as the closer. or at least give him a try

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 3, 2008 6:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I'll pass

I use statistics much as a dru