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Game 31 Open Thread

 

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       Ted Lilly          Kyle Lohse 
      1-4, 6.46            3-0, 2.36 

Ted Lilly has been brutal so far this year, with an ERA north of six.  Let's hope the Cards don't help him get out of that funk. 

Ankiel hitting in the six hole today; I like it.  That should give him a chance to use both his power and his speed.  Someone will hopefully be on base when he comes up to bat, giving him an opportunity to bring them in, and with the bottom of the lineup coming to bat, there's less risk in letting him do a little running, if the chance presents itself.  I think this is a good spot in the lineup for him. 

Let's get the win today, secure the series, and go for the sweep tomorrow!  All in front of a national audience!  

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Ted Lilly

His last two starts have been plenty sharp. He’s been trending up against two pretty good lineups. It’d be good to knock him back down and get the series win.

by liam on May 3, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Lineups

CUBS

Soriano LF
Theriot SS
Lee 1B
Fukudome RF
DeRosa 3B
Soto C
Fontenot 2B
Johnson CF
Lilly P

CARDS

Schumaker LF
Ryan 2B
Pujols 1B
Ludwick RF
Glaus 3B
Ankiel CF
Molina C
Lohse P
Izturis SS

by LukeMP1186 on May 3, 2008 3:25 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Nevermind.

It’s the Orioles now. The Mets are with New Orleans.

by LukeMP1186 on May 3, 2008 3:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

ankiel

I am a new poster, despite having read this blog for a couple of years. Thanks to lboros and company for the insights and local news for those of us from out of town.
I’m very curious abut what people think Moz will do this winter regarding Ankiel.
If he regresses back to .260/.320/.500, what type of deal does he get? I’ve always been skeptical of his success, but I hope he proves me wrong, given all that he’s been through.
I know Boras complicates things

by greenwichvillagecard on May 3, 2008 3:36 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

We have control over him

for one more offseason. My guess is that if he puts up solid numbers and continues to improve in the field and by taking more good at bats they will try to offer him multiple years. There just has to be some sort of track record for both sides to take to the negotiating table. I don’t think that either party wants this marriage to end though.

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 3, 2008 3:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

gave my guess in the last thread

Repeated here:

It sounds like he’s going to wait until the off-season to decide whether to go long with him or to just offer arbitration and keep him on a one-year deal.

Some of it may depend on how Rasmus looks in CF later this season. If we can negotiate with the understanding that Rasmus is the established CF for the next several years and Ankiel’s a corner outfielder, his defensive value is reduced and his contract will be largely about the quality of his bat.

All that being said, I doubt we’d go cheap on Ank after all we’ve invested in him. I’ll guess we sign him on a one-year deal for around 4-5 million.

by liam on May 3, 2008 3:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I'm thankful the Cardinals

aren’t on FOX so much anymore, because the pregame show is just painful to watch.

by LukeMP1186 on May 3, 2008 3:41 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

but

we do get joe buck…albeit with tim mccarver also

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on May 3, 2008 3:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yeah but

neutral Joe Buck isn’t as appealing as Cardinal homer Joe Buck we used to get on FSN Midwest.

by LukeMP1186 on May 3, 2008 3:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

1000000000%

more appealing than jay randolph though

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on May 3, 2008 3:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Neutral Joe Buck was constructed in Tim McCarver's basement

His call of one of the greatest Super Bowl plays in history was pretty awful I don’t think the tone in his voice changed at all…

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 3, 2008 3:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

good god

What a terrible pre-game show. Not an inkling of critical thinking in the “analysis.” For instance, Eric Karros said that Barry Zito will be back – as soon as he rests his arm and gets his curveball back. Uhh…isn’t Zito’s problem his 83 MPH fastball, rather than his curve? Ugh.

by jdub176 on May 3, 2008 3:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Ok..

Now Lohse, we’re getting close to giving you the keys to the city, but this is where you’re about to make your money. Shining against the Cubs can bring you great immortality, ask Skip what that’s all about. He’ll share.

So you’re walking into the game 3-0 and should some things fall your way 6-0 is something you could have had. We’re giving you arguably the best defense behind you, 2-9 may well be the best defense in the MLB all in all. So let’s keep it on the ground and let’s keep it going.

El Hombre, you’ll get your chance, we’re going slap happy in the top two. You got a lot of great looks the last time we did that. So it’s coming. Fox still disrespecting the Cards, so let’s teach them a thing or two.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 3:42 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Very glad Joe Buck is calling the game

Unfortunately, we have to deal with Tim McCarver

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by Mr Redbird on May 3, 2008 3:44 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Ryan Dempster

Does a pretty good impression of Will Ferrell doing an impression of Harry Carey.

by liam on May 3, 2008 3:45 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

okay,

so maybe dempster isn’t completely worthless

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 3, 2008 3:45 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

yeah i lost it at chilupa.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 3, 2008 3:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

The field looks gorgeous

especially with Ludwick out there grabbing Soriano pop-ups off Lohse curveballs.

by liam on May 3, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Sore

but nothing long term, lots of swelling

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 3:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

+1

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 3:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

god

I’m so sick of the AVE/HR/RBI graphics….I watch a ton of mlb.tv and the extra innings at sports bars and I think I’ve only seen one broadcast actually use the slash stat trio.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 3, 2008 3:49 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

It'll never change...

the vast majority of people care only about those stats….The percentage of fans that are absolute baseball junkies is rather low

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on May 3, 2008 3:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Nice start, K-Lo

Let’s get to Lilly early

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by Mr Redbird on May 3, 2008 3:49 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Easy first inning for Lohse

You may send an outline of my new assignment to the mental ward at Charity Hospital. The solicitious nuns and psychiatrists there can help me decipher it between shock treatments.

by Ignatius J Reilly on May 3, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Alright...

let’s jump on ‘em early…

by LukeMP1186 on May 3, 2008 3:50 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Day game

Big game from Glaus, calling it

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by Mr Redbird on May 3, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

He needs it.

Let’s hope he delivers.

by liam on May 3, 2008 3:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

lol, more love from baseball prospectus

the cards/cubs 1st place rivalry battle isn’t even on saturday list of games to watch…

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 3, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

K-Mac

just introduced the line up for the Redbirds. He announced Skippy as “Mr. Walkoff, Skip Schumaker”

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 3, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Brendan Ryan

Swingin’ for the lead!

by liam on May 3, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

doesnt he always?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 3, 2008 3:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I'm calling

bukoo production from the bottom of the order. Izturis is OPSing .833 off Lilly. Molina’s hitting lefties well.

by liam on May 3, 2008 4:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Lilly looking good.....

...to this point

You may send an outline of my new assignment to the mental ward at Charity Hospital. The solicitious nuns and psychiatrists there can help me decipher it between shock treatments.

by Ignatius J Reilly on May 3, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

CF cameraman

needs to decide on his iris setting.

by liam on May 3, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

I think

the sun keeps poking out behind the clouds.

by LukeMP1186 on May 3, 2008 3:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Pujols taking some vicious hacks

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 3, 2008 3:56 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

at balls unfortunately

You may send an outline of my new assignment to the mental ward at Charity Hospital. The solicitious nuns and psychiatrists there can help me decipher it between shock treatments.

by Ignatius J Reilly on May 3, 2008 3:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

That was a huge swing from Albert

I don’t think I ever saw him swing that hard before

by DriverZn on May 3, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

should've take the walk

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on May 3, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

At least

Albert made Lilly work for that out. Though, there couldve been a walk issued had he not swung at ball 4.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 3, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

twice

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on May 3, 2008 3:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

+1

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 3, 2008 3:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

the last one

Was a little low. But after taking 7 pitches up in the strike zone the boarder line low ball is hard to lay off. Lilly should get credit for that.

by Evilfrog on May 3, 2008 3:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

it was a nice pitch by lilly...

but it would’ve hit Soto’s ankle it was so low

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on May 3, 2008 4:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

that may have been lilly's best inning of the season

You may send an outline of my new assignment to the mental ward at Charity Hospital. The solicitious nuns and psychiatrists there can help me decipher it between shock treatments.

by Ignatius J Reilly on May 3, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Lilly's best inning

now that he’s got that out of the way, lets make him revert to the mean he’s begun the season with.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 3, 2008 4:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I know we

weren’t expecting to hit Lilly hard today. Regardless of how bad he’s been so far, he is, after all, a soft tossing lefty. Kryptonite.

by LukeMP1186 on May 3, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Ichiro, Jr

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by Ignatius J Reilly on May 3, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

not even close

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 3, 2008 4:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

ah

Much better.

by Evilfrog on May 3, 2008 4:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Skip

is Ichiro Jr.

by TheBirds on May 3, 2008 4:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Fukudome's .400 babip is starting to annoy me

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 3, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

fangraphs.com

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 3, 2008 4:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Nice

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

keep Soto's hits in the infield and I'll be happy

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 4:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs