Skip Goes to Eleven.
"Well, couldn't you have just won the game in the tenth?"
"Skip goes to eleven."
Wow. That was an amazing game. Mr. Schumaker, I'm very sorry I even briefly entertained the notion of trying to trade you while your value was highest in my post on Wednesday. I see now that your value is currently at it's lowest ebb, and will not reach it's highest point until the day you are inducted into Cooperstown sometime in the late 2020s. Then, though, the Cardinals should definitely consider pulling the trigger on any potential deal.
I still hate that Brian Barton is struggling to find playing time. Of course, I can't come up with any real way to get his bat in the lineup that wouldn't involve sitting a player deserving of any and all ABs, so I suppose I'll just have to live with it for now. I'm a little frustrated by the perception that he's a poor defender in particular. He doesn't have a great arm, true, but his range is excellent and his hands are great. What I'm most upset by in this situation, though, is the fact that Tony insists on running through an extra bench player, even while carrying 12 pitchers, because he doesn't trust the kid yet. Not a huge deal, I admit, but a little bothersome.
What is a huge deal is the continued struggles of the Cardinals' closer, Mr. Jason Isringhausen. Personally, I've only booed one Cardinal player in all my years as a fan, (and it doesn't matter who it was; suffice it to say he was involved in a divorce with a friend of our family, and conducted himself in a less than exemplary fashion) and I'm a little perturbed by the fan base's willingness to turn on Izzy again. On the other hand, I also have a hard time truly faulting them; I know I'm getting awfully frustrated watching our bullpen struggle to put away games that should be comfortable victories.
The Isringhausen story got a whole lot more interesting last night, when Tony LaRussa, responding to a question by a member of the St. Louis press, had this to say:
(Referring to Isringhausen)- "I asked him, when he was leaving the mound, if he was okay, and he said he was fine. He had trouble keeping the ball down tonight, though...usually, when he's had trouble getting down, he's been fighting some stiffness, or pain, or..."
That worries me. A lot. If Tony is openly questioning whether or not his warrior, his closer, is physically sound, it tells me that he and Duncan see something they don't like, beyond a few flat cutters.
If we will all think back to the 2006 season, we will recall the problems that Izzy was having then. His velocity was down, his location was atrocious, and there was one particular pitch he simply couldn't get working. The pitch?
His cutter, of course. What pitch is he most having trouble with this season? Again, the same. I'm definitely not an expert on pitching, by any means, and maybe I don't understand what's going on here, but I see some definite parallels here that I don't like, not one bit.
The thing that I find more than a bit confusing, though, is the pitch selection here. The cutter has been the most problematic pitch for Izzy in his tough stretches; why does he continue to go to it with such regularity? I understand it's a good pitch, but it's not as if he lacks other weapons. He hasn't yet shown the huge loss of velocity that was so marked in that 2006 death march, and his curveball is still downright nasty most of the time. Why, when he has options available, does he continue to throw the pitch that he seems to have the most trouble throwing at the moment?
If this is really just a mechanical issue, then why don't Izzy and Molina just agree to go more with the fastball and curve for now, until Jason can get a better handle on what's going on.
The other option, of course, is that he's hurt. I sincerely hope this isn't the case, not only for the team, but for Izzy personally. If that hip is going bad on him again, it's almost surely the end of his career, and I don't want to see his run end like that. Too often we see the great laid low by physical failings; Izzy has fought through so many already, I hope he is allowed to lay down his sword on his own terms, rather than those decreed by his body.
Personally, I think it may be a little bit of both. Something isn't right with Isringhausen at the moment; that's fairly certain. What I think, though, isn't that we're dealing with an athlete whose body is just finally breaking down, but that we're seeing one who simply can't handle the same workload any longer. He's not necessarily physically incapable of the job, but I don't know if he's capable of doing it every single day any more. The Cardinals' early season winning ways have resulted in an inordinate number of appearances for both Izzy and Franklin; I think, more than anything, that Isringhausen is paying the price for pitching too many times on bloodied and battered legs.
So what's the solution? Well, I think this may be an excellent chance to bring up one of our young fireballers currently stowed away in Memphis, as Izzy insurance. Both Chris Perez and Jason Motte are in the process of proving themselves too good for Triple A; Motte in particular is striking out over 15(!) batters per 9 innings on the young season. We've seen teams having success in recent years with, young, untested closers. I'm not even suggesting going to one of those other guys to close out games necessarily. But I would feel a whole lot better if there was another overpowering arm down there in the pen that could come in and blow away a couple of batters a time or two a week. Of course, that would probably require moving Anthony Reyes somehow, but seeing as how he's being used strictly as a mop up guy at the moment, I don't see that as really hurting the team. Personally, I'd like to see him used in a few more important situations, but them's the breaks. Sorry, kid. Better luck elsewhere; it's just not going to work here.
I have one other thing I wanted to talk about, but I'll put it after the break, so you can avoid any more of my long windedness if you wish.
Couple of notes:
Adam Ottavino, the Cards' first round pick in the 2006 draft, is heading to the DL . Looks as if we may have another case of Hero Syndrome on our hands, as he's apparently been nursing a sore shoulder since Spring Training.
One of my own personal favourites in the Cards' system, RHP David Kopp, has been pitching very well this year. He also has outstanding mechanics. Don't believe me? Check this out . As if I needed any more reason to like the guy, he appears to have nearly the same delivery as one of the most durable and consistent pitchers of our time, Mariano Rivera. By the way, if you've never checked out Pitching Clips, you really should. It's one of my favourite wastes of time, to be perfectly honest. Kopp doesn't keep his front shoulder closed quite as well as Rivera, which probably has something to do with Kopp's somewhat iffy command so far in his career, but the arm action and lower body mechanics are strikingly similar. Again, Kopp is a little 'longer' in the back of his delivery, but that's still a thing of beauty to see together like that.
Everyone here should go to iTunes, or whatever music service you prefer, and download Coheed and Cambria's "Feathers". I literally cannot stop listening to this song. I didn't much care for C and C when I first heard them, but my friend Travis kept hammering away at me that I was really missing the boat, and turns out he was right. Amazing.
Yovani Gallardo, the talented young Brewers ace, looks to have thrown his last pitch of the season. This, to me, is really sad, because I love watching this kid pitch, even though it's for one of our chief rivals. Of course, Gallardo basically appears to just be following in the tradition of talented young Brewers ace pitchers. See also: Sheets, Ben, 2004-present.
Kay. After the break, the other thing. I will warn you, if you're easily offended by language, there is a bit of it included. It was necessary to make the point, I believe, but if you have a serious problem with that sort of thing, please consider yourself warned. Thank you.
There's a very good discussion going on over in jealousblues' fanpost about the Buzz Bissinger/ Bob Costas attack on Will Leitch of Deadspin. If you haven't stopped by over there and checked it out, you should.
I just wanted to put in my .02 on the subject.
First off, I thought it was ridiculous on the part of Bissinger, who's abilities as a storyteller I greatly respect, but who's overall journalistic resume is less than sparkling, to call out Leitch for reporting on things like athlete's bad behaviour and things like that. For one thing, Deadspin is not a news site; it's an entertainment website. Hell, it's essentially a big clearing house for things Leitch himself thinks are funny or entertaining. The content generated by Will Leitch himself is in the same vein, ie primarily humorous, but occasionally tending toward the in depth analytical or poignant. By no means is Deadspin the sort of site anyone is looking toward for hard hitting news. I don't get my information on the political landscape from the Onion, no matter how well the satire there is done.
The other problem that Bissinger had with Leitch, and apparently the blogosphere in general, was the language. I have a serious problem with that. Not only did Costas and Buzz deliberately pick out the most extreme, over the top example they could find, but the very point of the attack was poorly thought out. The problem, of course, lies in the fact that, in this medium, there is instant feedback from people who are not, themselves, held to any kind of standards, even if only the self imposed ones that content generators put upon themselves. And really, the language in the comment in question, while probably unsuitable for polite conversation, wasn't anything worse than what's been in Bissinger's books. Which is more offensive to you?
An unidentified, possibly inebriated, individual on a message board pasting the word cunt all over the page in question, or
The coach of a high school football team referring to his running back as a big dumb nigger?
Both were printed, and both are offensive in their own way. The thing is, though, is Bissinger would claim he was just quoting what someone said when he put that second statement in "Friday Night Lights", while the cunt comment somehow reflects directly on the material it was being hurled at.
I remember the first time I read Hunter S. Thompson's "Fear and Loathing in Las Vegas." I was in seventh grade at the time, (yes, I was a very precocious child) and I recall being stunned, absolutely floored, by what I was reading. Here was real, actual life, being chronicled for me, without the sanitization, without the filters, in all of it's horrible, awful majesty. I fell in love with the darker side of life, (though, admittedly, it didn't take much of a push for me) and began to seek out the most honest, brutal depictions of reality I could find. I fell in love with William S. Burroughs and his hallucinogenic depictions of a warped and terrible world, though I will admit, some of my affection for him was strictly to support my burgeoning cynicism and romanticise my burgeoning drug use.
The point of all this is that there have always been methods of depicting reality that fall outside the norm. I wonder, would it help Bissinger accept Leitch's writings if he were to look at them strictly as a Gonzo travellogue?
The real problem, I feel, is the fear that certain members of the media have of the new communication paradigm we see emerging. Go and read Al Gore's most recent book, "The Assault on Reason." Full disclosure: I'm a big fan of Mr. Gore; I voted for the guy, and would again if given the chance. Even putting that aside, though, it's an amazing read. The point of the book is essentially this: we live in a society with an almost entirely one way communication line, in the form of television. The messages go in one direction only, with the people sending them acting as the gatekeepers of all information; no feedback ever really reaches anyone important.
The internet, of course, is almost the opposite of this. Gore himself, (who, btw, does not claim to have invented the web in the book, so don't worry about that) holds up the Internet as the single greatest hope we have for returning a level of discoursive power to the people; the ideas can finally go both ways again, as they largely did in the early Printed Age.
The problem, of course, for people like Bissinger and Costas, is that once the citizenry becomes able to both decide and generate for themselves what they believe and feel, what happens to those who formerly broadcast the information? These are two men who see the writing on the wall, that the world, particularly in their field of expertise, is becoming much smarter much faster than what the old guard can adapt. Hence, the aggression. I actually think Bissinger had a couple of decent points, regarding the level of discourse, but his own actions were, I think, largely motivated by the fear and anger of someone who feels they are being listened to now, but who may very well soon become obsolete.
Of course, if your opinions and ideas are truly worthwhile, you'll never become obsolete. There will always be a place in the world for those who are able to tell a story, able to illuminate life in a way that shows the rest of us something important. Unfortunately, I don't think either Buzz or Costas himself sees this; I think they only see that a whole bunch of people who aren't qualified to create ideas and opinions are doing so at an alarming rate.
I respect Mr. Bissinger's abilities as a writer immensely; he did a wonderful job of illuminating the methods of Tony LaRussa's madness, and I've always liked FNL. But this stunt was far beneath someone who should know better. Shame on you, Buzz.
And as for Mr. Costas, shame on you too for being a party to this. It was painfully obvious in watching the special that you were fully complicit in what was happening. That was far beneath you, a journalist for whom I have always had the utmost respect, which, unfortunately, took a beating on this one. I realise that your hands are largely tied; the lowest common denominator must be served, and the dumbing down of anything worthwhile must continue. But Will Leitch has nothing to do with the pathetic state of reporting in this country today; in fact, men and women like him are the solution. A populace that demands more will ultimately set you free.
This is the new world, whether you like it or not. The citizenry is no longer quite so in the dark; to rail against it is pointless.
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Solution for a closer if Izzy becomes a long term problem
Bring up Motte/Perez until July. In July, Carp becomes the closer
by texas on May 3, 2008 5:32 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow
Wainwright the ace.
Carpenter the closer.
It’s like 2006 bizarro world.
I like it.
Here's the deal, I'm the best there is, plain and simple, I mean I wake up every morning and I kiss excellence, and nobody can hang with my stuff, uh, you know I'm just a, just a big hairy American winning machine.....
by Schnake on May 3, 2008 8:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Instead of trading Reyes right away...
If Izzy really is becoming overworked, then why not give him a 15-day DL stint to rest up? You bring up Motte or Perez for a couple of weeks, and then you see if Izzy looks any better after his vacation. When the 2 weeks is up you still have a decision to make, but who knows, someone else may need a DL trip by then.
by mikedallas45 on May 3, 2008 9:49 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Because he's a stubborn old goat who won't admit he's hurt
The best that can be done is to try to give him a couple off days between pitching by either blowout wins or closer by committee
by cloistermaximus on May 3, 2008 11:57 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And this is the reason I boo Izzy...
Becuase he gets caught up in this macho bullshit. When a player doesn’t display that he has the best interest of the team at heart, that is the only time I will boo. He thinks that he is doing it because he is a warrior and doing it for the good of the team, but actually it is a bit of self-centered promotion that hurts the team.. Last night was the first I saw him on the tube this year (chicago-based fan), but those mechanics looked like they were reverting back to the slopfest he displayed in 2006. He is injured and pretty soon we will hear him complain about how he has been giving it his all even though he hasn’t been 100% and the fans should respect that. Bullshit! The bottom line for fans is not to massage Izzy’s ego, the bottom line is the win-loss record. He see the writing on the wall, his replacements are very close to ready—he isn’t giving up his spot without a fight, so management will have to do it for him. I think he needs to come clean and admit he is injured, so the team can prosper. If a true wariior has lost his spot to a replacement when he comes off the DL, he fights to get it back no matter what role he is assigned. That is what is good for the team.
by BigJawnMize on May 3, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hadn't seen Izzy in a couple of
weeks until last night. While he was warming up in the pen it seemed to me his left leg was giving slightly with each delivery (I was watching the WGN feed). When he got in the game, same thing, slightly less pronounced. A collapsing front leg elevates the pitches. To me, he looked like he was on the way to his 2006 mechanics. I hope I’m just imagining this. Anybody see the same thing, or is it just me?
by vinniefromjersey on May 3, 2008 8:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, Vinnie, I saw it. If you go to mlb.com, you can see it in the Soriano home run highlight.
by greenback06 on May 3, 2008 9:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I saw it too
Looked like a hitch in his stride to me. When I was watching him throw in the bullpen, I immediately got worried that we were in trouble in the 9th.
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by Mr Redbird on May 3, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Solutions
Worrell, Jimenez, Motte, Perez are all doing fine, but how about Roy? 0.71 ERA, WHIP 0.87? We have alternatives if Izzy can’t figure it out? By the way, during the game today, when everyone was diving for their Franklins, I was wondering if Izzy is a part owner of that brewery!
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on May 3, 2008 9:13 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A complaint about FSN and the way they do interviews right in the middle of an inning.
They kind of forget that there is a game going on. Yesterday Dan was talking to an AB guy about a Beer Festival coming up. And it was right when Carlos Zambrano (a switch hitter!) was pinch hitting. He got a single. But you really had to try hard to even know this event happened.
FSN-can you please cut away from your interviews when something is happening in the game? Their coverage and announcers annoy me to the point that I often go to the mute button…..
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on May 3, 2008 9:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Complaint
I agree. A lot of irrelevant commentary, and nothing about the plays, although in the thread during the game, some were saying that watching TV, you don’t need to be told what is happening. But for me, an analyst should be giving us analysis, not telling us about a beerfest.
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on May 3, 2008 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There was a delay in that splitting the screen. I thought the inining had not started yet.....
And they do it virtually everygame. They could do this as part of the pregame coverage- they often don’t have enough interesting material for the hour…I prefer they don’t TELL me every single thing that is happening. But I would like it if they would at least SHOW me what is happening on the field.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on May 3, 2008 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's not just FSNMW...
They all do it these days. Some are just more adept at handling the situation than others, and Dan is not one of them.
If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.
by cardsrul on May 3, 2008 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's true. He needs to multi-task better. He either needs to turn into a woman...
we DO multi-taks better than men or maybe let his inner ADD come out…...
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on May 3, 2008 11:36 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yikes! multi-task, not multi-taks.......oh, dear....
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on May 3, 2008 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree
I watch WGN bob brenly and len kasper are waaaaaaaaaaaaaaayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy better than the FSN pair. FSN sucks with game coverage, they did the same thing a while ago interviewing Mo during a game when action was taking place. I don’t need to see who you are interviewing as I can hear the conversation.
by ICbirdfan on May 3, 2008 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
also agree
the best announcer team I get to see is the Reds’ pair {when it is Grande and Welsh, that is—NOT when it is the punk Brennaman kid and the Cowboy}
I am amused that Brenly sometimes gets ragged on by posters, when for my money he and Welsh are much better than almost all of the ESPN color guys; the very worst, of course being JJJJJ (I can hardly type it)....Joe Morgan.
by the Tewk on May 3, 2008 12:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Grande and Welsh
are good, indeed. And they’re not afraid to give props to the opposing team when warranted.
If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.
by cardsrul on May 3, 2008 12:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was ragging on Brenly yesterday
but even I will agree he is MUCH better than Morgan.
by Phizzle on May 3, 2008 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Obviously, the Dodgers team ain't too bad, either...
"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams
by Valatan on May 3, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It doesn't bother
me that much on TV because I can SEE what is happening and it isn’t necessary for the broadcasters to tell me what I just saw. What annoys me on the telly is when they cut away from the action on the field for interviews in the booth or on the sidelines. What I find most frustrating in baseball coverage is the tendency of many radio announcers to become so involved in their interviews (or reminiscing) that they seem to completely forget that a game is being played and their listeners can’t see it.
by cardsgirl95 on May 3, 2008 9:46 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Telly?
I don’t know about WGN, is it Chicago, are you otherwise blacked out? All I have is mlb.com and whatever they dish up. Count yourselves lucky. It disappeared in the bottom of the 11th and I missed Skippy’s heroics. I am signing up for the fan club! ! My biggest problem is reading everyone posting heading for Franklins when it is early morning here, but that game called for a Franklin, anytime of the day. I hope we see the wilted Lilley tomorrow !
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on May 3, 2008 10:04 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yes
I also particularly hate when they split the screen and make the game too small for too long.
Also, I don’t think Carlos is a switch hitter. He just bats left and throws right
by The Butcher on May 3, 2008 11:30 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope. Zambrano IS a switch hitter. He takes great pride in that fact. He takes great pride in his hitting too. Works hard to maintain his stroke from both sides of the plate.
You could look it up….....
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on May 3, 2008 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Big Z..
Works extremely hard on his hitting. You should see him in BP. He will hit a bunch on Waveland Ave., then turn around and hit a bunch on Sheffield. He’s a good athlete. He runs well, (not fast,but smart) and fields his position very well. He also is excellent in holding runners close to the base. And, he finally seems to have control over his emotions. Now, if only Soriano had such pride in his work ethic.
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
by Bump Bailey on May 3, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Jill,
you are so right about the broadcasts. Living here in upstate NY I finally got the extra innings package. I expected the best announcers in baseball to be doing the Cards games. Al and Dan are the worst broadcasters I have ever suffered through. The game is why I tune in, and these two are not watching it. They are the people sitting behind you in the movie theater that will not shut up! Several batters can come to the plate and they will still be talking about who shot John. It would be better for them to JUST SHUT UP. Remember the movie “Night Shift.” “This is NYBIRDFAN reminding Al and Dan to just shut up!”
A ball park is a cathedral the game is a what matters, and talking during it is sacrilegious. Once the pitcher goes into his wide up all talking should stop, If the ball is put in play either comment on the play or stay quiet. Once the play is over you can resume the conversation, but it should be related to something going on. Back round about the hitter, a similar play, or set the strategy of the situation are all ok topics, and there is nothing wrong with dead air. Please no cross over promos for beer parties hidden as interviews. I mean they mentioned the brand names what three or four times!
I love Extra Innings. I have seen more games this year then ever. I love it even more when I am watching the other teams broadcast. So far every other team has a better booth combo. I switched off Extra Innings and went to WGN because I had to end my suffering. What did I discover. The Cubs have better broadcasters.
by nybirdfan on May 3, 2008 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The AB guy
Was on the 550 broadcast too. Though Rooney did a good job of giving the play by play will interviewing him.
by Evilfrog on May 3, 2008 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Closer by committee
We’ve got good options now—K-mac, Springer, Franklin (yes I know, I know), Villone. If Izzy is hurting, put him on the DL. Otherwise start shifting some of his burden to the others.
This issue would be moot if we could just get a few more timely base hits and score a few more runs. :)
by gocards62 on May 3, 2008 9:57 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
DL
If Izzy were to go on DL, who fills the roster spot? Two Flores on the same team?
by kkkkathmandubirdsview on May 3, 2008 10:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Closer
The closer should, in theory, be one of, if not the, best reliever on the team. Does anyone really think that is the case right now? Izzy letting the lead off batter on base is like one of those bad repetitive jokes. It goes from funny to annoying to funny to frustrating. Someone else, anyone at this point, should be the closer.
Also a note on Ottavino: not only does he have “Hero Syndrome” but he has the mentality that he will strike out every batter he sees. I think getting to a higher level (only Double A) and seeing better hitters has caught up to him. He needs to learn to pitch to contact because he doesn’t have the stuff to be a K pitcher.
by Colonel Wellemeyer on May 3, 2008 10:34 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yep. We can't have no damn strike out pitchers in OUR starting rotation........
He has apparently been pitching the whole season with a sore shoulder. I read last year that he was having trouble adapting to the whole pitch to contact theory and that his sinker isn’t developing well. But I also read this season that he understood he has to trust his stuff and not worry about them hitting it. If he learns how to pitch, I said pitch, not just throw, the strikeouts will come. Please enlighten me-has he ever SAID he’s trying to stike everyone out?
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on May 3, 2008 10:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No kneed for knee jerk
If he really had a strained shoulder since beginning the season, it would explain a lot. All of his stats have gotten worse since coming to Double A. Of course, it is a small sample size and one can expect some regression when moving up classes.
As for if he SAID he tries to strike everyone out: of course not. Does any pitcher say that? But it is his pitching style. He averaged a little over 8 K per nine innings in High A. That has gone down a little in Springfield and his ERA has ballooned to almost 7.
You’re right, he does have to learn how to pitch rather than throw. Double A is usually when pitchers start to learn that.
by Colonel Wellemeyer on May 3, 2008 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
A lot of these guys have huge strike out totals in their amateur games
because they are way better than everyone else on the field. My sons’ summer team teammate struck out 107 in 63 innings, and he was drafted by the Phillies in the 25th round. So they never really had to “pitch” they just had to hit the strike zone. That’s what they know-they learn the rest as they progress through the system.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on May 3, 2008 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"Way better"
You can tell I spend most of days surrounded by 5-11 year olds….....
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on May 3, 2008 12:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two Flores
wouldn’t be the worst thing, as Ron Flores is pitching well at Memphis but we have better options in Motte, Perez, Worrell. I wouldn’t mind even seeing Garcia from Springfield.
Whatever this can’t continue with Izzy being less than 100%, because when he allows runners on, he can’t hold ‘em and they run at will, compounding the problem. Right now his chances of closing a ballgame without being scored on are nill and also what is this problem with every hitter in the line up chasing after low pitches. The Cards are giving up about 4 walks a game. Have you noticed that if hitters start chasing low pitches in a game, then umpires will start calling them when they lay off one.
by ridgesee on May 3, 2008 10:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Idea
So after our current bullpen coach retires(marty mason?) do you think that Izzy(who i would presume also be retired) would make a good bullpen coach/mentor/motivator? Would he want to? Id love to have him teach some young closers how to handle pressure situations(but not how to hide injury :(
by brindled on May 3, 2008 11:06 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Old Yoda did a great job with the bullpen brats in the '06 playoffs
It’s been well documented Izzy was in the ‘pen whispering sage words of wisdom to Kinney, Wainer, and TJ, and they were lights out. I think he’s an obvious choice for coach one day soon.
by cloistermaximus on May 3, 2008 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lost in the shadow
I’d like to give props to a couple of players who’s performances were forgotten due to the walk-off homer.
1 – Ron Villone. Coming into the year, I thought you were a LOOGY. 2 weeks into the season, I realized you were mop-up. But you’ve been lights out this whole year and proved last night you can handle the spotlight. That was one of the scenarios where a reliever really EARNED a win.
2 – Aaaron Miles. Leading off the inning with that hit was huge. Does Skip really hit a HR if the bases are empty with 2 outs? I’m not so sure… Skip looked so relaxed at the plate. He was probably telling himself “just hit a flyball” and well, he did.
Also minor shout-out to Izturis for his great defense. I hate comparing new players to old one’s but I will say the Eckstein wouldn’t have made some of those plays. Maybe Iz2 is the next Cub-Killer?
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by stltrav09 on May 3, 2008 11:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Adjustment from TLR
might be needed as well. His patented style of one reliever, one inning (occassional LOOGY thrown in) combined with the team having a chance to win almost every game is taking a toll on the bullpen staff. Watching Villone last night, I thought TLR might consider using using a dual end of game strategy. Certain pitchers could be designated as going two or three innings for the save one day and others targeted for his normal style. He could then plan out the week with this strategy in mind. Reyes, K-Mac and Villone each look like they could handle and be effective with this type of approach.
As for Izzy, he is on pace for 70 – 75 games/65 – 70 IP this year, which is about 10% highter than last year. Not the kind of pace for an older player He was lights out to start the season (5 saves in 7 days) but has had trouble in three of the last five appearances. But he did make the game “exciting” last night.
by ubeddie on May 3, 2008 11:11 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Reading someone suggest people listen to...
Coheed and Cambria is really a bad way to start one’s day.
by mynameistyler on May 3, 2008 11:18 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I listened to a clip
Based on the recommendation, I listened to a clip of the song. The singer’s voice sounded like Geddy Lee to me. I don’t consider that a good thing.
by birdjam on May 3, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was trying to place the singer's voice
Couldn’t come up with a name. Mostly I wanted to place it in a faraway place, out of range of my ears.
I love reading RB’s music recs. I’ve acted on them and been happy that I have. I’m passing on this one, though. Ugh.
by Youneverknow on May 3, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You had me...
...untill you cited Gore. Far from a member of the avant guard, Gore has made a career of taking ‘credit’ for ideas and arguments he hardly has the candlepower to come up with on his own and can only regurgitate. Ugh. If you want to have a good read on the power and future of the blogopshere, avoid the self-important washed up politician and read an actual blogger’s take in: An Army of Davids: How Markets and Technology Empower Ordinary People to Beat Big Media, Big Government, and Other Goliaths.
-- GOOCH
by GOOCH24 on May 3, 2008 11:50 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Compliments from the Cubs
There’s some nice things being written about the Cards and LaRussa in the Cubs press and over at BCB. (mixed in with some typical bile from a few unredeemables)
It’s nice to get a little outside perspective. Basic idea is this: It would be a major accomplishment for La Russa if the Cards are competitive this year, since no one predicted it.
I think the Tribune article really shows that LaRussa takes the right approach—If you play the game the right way, your talent will determine whether you win or lose.
One more point: Anyone else thing that Fox just gave up last night? That was a pretty poor pitch to Skip. I think after the pass ball, and after Miles got to Third, he just chucked it into Skip. Stupid thing to do, but it seems typical of the Cubs, to be honest. Skip’s shot was a no doubter. It was clear right off the bat that the game was over, especially because the outfield was playing way in.
In the meanwhile, all hail Skip Schumaker! It just became Skip’s world last night, and we’re just visiting.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
by Titus Pullo on May 3, 2008 11:55 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nope
He threw a slider to try and get an aggressive hitter to swing at air in a futile attempt to get the ball in the outfield, but it was flat as a pancake, stayed over the heart of the plate, and Skip crushed up.
Remember, Fox has been out of the majors for 3 years… he’s going to make mistakes like that.
by cloistermaximus on May 3, 2008 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Suppose
we’re up 3-1 again in the 9th today. Does TLR go to Izzy again?
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by stltrav09 on May 3, 2008 12:00 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Depends how deep Kyle goes
If Tony doesn’t use K-Mac, Frank, or Fores before the 9th, one of those should take it. Otherwise, he might have no choice (and I doubt he uses Reyes in a situation like that)
by cloistermaximus on May 3, 2008 12:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No
Izzy last two times pitching back to back came after successful short outings (6 pitches on Apr 21 and Apr 24) but also ended up in a losses (Apr 22 v Mil and Apr 25 v Hou). He threw 26 pitches late last night and won’t be ready to throw successfully at 7 pm today.
by ubeddie on May 3, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
why don't you just make 10 louder?
but these go to 11.
quite literally armadillos in our trousers.
nice tap reference!
by sdesserman on May 3, 2008 12:24 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's like...
It’s like, how much more black could this be? And the answer is none. None more black.
by birdjam on May 3, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nice post, RB
Hopefully today’s game isn’t a shit sandwich.
I’d like to see Izzy sideline the cut fastball for a while, too. And the Memphis bullpen is too deep and solid to allow the Cardinals bullpen to have major weaknesses.
Free Mark Worrell!
(Notice the shout-out of support for Leitch in Bernie’s column from last night?)
by liam on May 3, 2008 12:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Why not just make ten louder?
You know RB, I still romanticize my drug use. That NyQuil has some kick. I think that’s what it was, I took it on advice from my lawyer.
I know after Izzy gave up the homer all I could think of was the rant of another Cardinals coach.
After The Skippers home run I thought maybe that would be old Lou with the meltdown. He’s always good for a rant. If we sweep the series I’m looking for a big one.
Yikes, you’ve done it again. I can’t get it out of my head.
“Big bottom, big bottom
Talk about bum cakes, my girl’s got ‘em
Big bottom drive me out of my mind
How could I leave this behind?”
"Do what you want to the women and children but leave me alone"- George Carlin
by That's a Winner on May 3, 2008 12:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Excellent Post RB
Really enjoy your posts. I’m really excited about your new gig over at the RFT, hopefully you don’t leave us here at VEB, and we can have twice the goodness.
by AirForceCardsFan on May 3, 2008 12:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"Walk off Schumaker" should be his nickname
not that this has anything to do with today’s post…I just thought it has a catchy ring to it.
mattnj
by mattnj on May 3, 2008 12:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
Makes it sound like he likes to chronically Dine and Dash.
Wait that’s it, Dine and Dash. Dine of pitching at the dish and Dash around the basepaths.
"Do what you want to the women and children but leave me alone"- George Carlin
by That's a Winner on May 3, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somehow we need to add grace in there, because if you’ve seen him field, you’d see why.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how about
ding and dash?
You know, like when you were a kid (if you ever did this, that is), and you ran up to a stranger/neighbors door, dinged the doorbell and dashed away?
Ding, home run. Dash, around the bases.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 3, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But speaking of today's Post
Pure Quality. Thank you!
mattnj
by mattnj on May 3, 2008 12:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
On the official site
a story talking about Izzy’s problems:
“Physically, I feel as good as I have,” he said. “Watching tape, my velocity is there. It’s just, when I make a mistake with my cutter to a righty, it gets hit a long way. It’s either not throw it anymore or make better pitches with it.
“It’s something that I’ve got to figure out. If I don’t figure it out, I ain’t going to be doing what I’m doing.” You’ve already figured it out, hoss! Don’t throw it for a while, good things will happen.
by liam on May 3, 2008 12:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ARam doubtful to play today
according to a post over at BCB. Apparently his wrist has swelled up pretty good.
ARam is 5-5 against Lohse in his career.
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by stltrav09 on May 3, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I hope nothing is broken.
Would suck if it takes him out for length of time. I was listening to the radio when that happen. Was he leaning in on the plate when he got hit?
by Evilfrog on May 3, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I never wish injury on another player
even though I find ARam’s antics to be quite annoying. But I will say that they lineup appears much less dangerous when he is out.
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by stltrav09 on May 3, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He was leaning in.
There was no intent on Adam’s part to hit the guy, but he kind of turned into the pitch and it got him good on the wrist.
by cardsgirl95 on May 3, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah had he not made any movement to start his swing he wouldn't have been hit
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
by joker24 on May 3, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Booing Izzy
Since when do Cards fans boo their own players with such regularity. Growing up, booing a cards player was practically unheard of and almost unthinkable to me. Now we’re booing a Cardinal who has given everything he has to this organization two out of the last three years?
I had hoped that 2006 was a result of semi-fans showing up just because it was the last year in old Busch, but we have no such excuse this year. This is St. Louis people, not New York or Philly.
by fltfire on May 3, 2008 1:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I still believe
There are a lot of semi-fans going. And increased ticket prices doesn’t help.
by Evilfrog on May 3, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mmmm...
2006 was the first year of new Busch.
by cardsgirl95 on May 3, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm not a boo-er
but I was very pissed about Izzy’s performance this year. He’s done a lot of great things for this team but I seriously think he’s hurt and has too much pride to admit it. If that is the case, he needs to do what’s best for the team, not himself.
I was extremely unimpressed by the entire crowd last night. During some key moments of the game, they sat on their hands.
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by stltrav09 on May 3, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was extremely unimpressed by the entire crowd last night. During some key moments of the game, they sat on their hands.
That’s the entire difference right there. Very well said.
Hosting the Cubs is always going to allow those moments. That’s what it’s all about. If Papa was to blow a save against the Yankees he’d be booed off the mound as well, even in Boston. It’s going to happen.
But it had an overall feel of uneducated fan support. The cheers were far and few between and totally missed on key moments.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's shameful
watching the game izzy blew last weekend was horrific. The fans were booing Isringhausen after the home run. To make it worse, a dude in a Cardinals jersey was exhorting the fan who caught the ball to throw it back.
We had our own traditions of being a classy, hospitable fanbase. I, too, had chalked up the 2006 crap to event-fans showing up to see the new stadium but it looks like the culture has changed.
by liam on May 3, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'll admit it
I was at the game last night. I booed Izzy. I don’t like Isringhausen’s attitude, his “hero” mentality, or Tony’s obsession with trotting him out when it’s obvious something is wrong. I knew as soon as he showed up to close out the game, that we’d either lose or head to extra innings.
I’ve had dealing with Izzy outside of the baseball world, owing to him being from nearby, and he’s proved himself to be a world class jerk. A farm boy who let the money get to his head, I think.
I love the Cardinals. I cheered everything and tried to encourage the team whenever I could during the game. I still don’t like Izzy. That’s my choice.
by rencelas on May 3, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hey..
If you want, Turnbow is available….Maybe Duncan can fix his problems..:)
"The one constant through all the years, Ray, has been baseball"
by Bump Bailey on May 3, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Anybody that saw
Turnbow Wednesday night in Chicago would not want him. I felt geniunely sorry for him. It was clear then that he had pitched his last game for the Brewers. They just let him suffer when he had nothing and was getting pounded. It was a pitiful sight.
by ridgesee on May 3, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
This may come as a suprise to some of you...
but a lot of fans HATE Izzy. Fans boo players they hate. Not just in New York of Philly, but everywhere. It does not mean they are not knowledgeable about the game or the team. Is it right? Is it wrong? Not for me to say, but as long as he continues to constantly bring the game winning run to the plate and blow saves, I can promise you the trend of booing Izzy will not stop.
Oh and if you think the way we treat Izzy is bad, you should hop on over to the Padres blog where there is a fanpost entitle “Mother F Trevor Hoffman”
By the way, I agree that the throwing the ball back thing has got to stop.
"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on May 3, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know
In my experience, St. Louis has historically been very reluctant to boo, even players they don’t like. Remember a number of years ago and a backup catcher named Einar Diaz? I don’t know anyone who didn’t die a little inside every time he got into a game, but I never heard the crowd boo him – no matter how terrible he played. I never heard them cheer for him either.
Admittedly, a back up catcher is different than your closer – but I think the “Diaz” treatment was always more typical of St. Louis’ treatment of players they don’t like.
by fltfire on May 3, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what I'd boo?
I’d boo stupid one-run strategies in the 2nd inning of a game in which we’re leading, and then bonehead decisions (in this case, apparently Albert’s stroke of genius) to try a double steal with 1st & 3rd and two outs.
Can anyone explain to me why anyone with a brain would BUNT with a runner at second and no outs? Lots of managers do it, TLR especially. It’s a tactic that has always mystified me. When he called that last night after Waino’s double I about had a fit. And then of course he did it again in the 11th. In a game in which our guys were unable to get big hits with runners on base, why is he voluntarily giving up an out after Miles’ double? Sheesh.
by MdRedbirdFreak on May 3, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I mentioned that last night
we shouldn’t have even been in a save situation at best. At worst we should have been up by three. and would have walked out of the 9th winning that game.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can look at it another way and
we should have lost it but the Cubs gave us a gift run in with three errors (one error and two non catches) so the HR only tied the game. Or Molina’s hit/non catch doesn’t bounce over the wall and AP scores and we win. So many different chances to change the game. Cubs also ended up with more LOB last night (13-10)
by ubeddie on May 3, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yeah
and if you went by performance and put Adam in the 7 spot and put iz in the pitchers spot then you could have a base clearing double. or the 4-5 deep fly balls the cubs hit could have went over.
but the issues in the second were purposeful, instead of as the cards fall. so to speak
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
we also
got into the sCrUBS bullpen for 10 1/3 inning last night. Not too shabby, IMO, to finish the series up tonight and tomorrow.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 3, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Absolutely!
I mentioned that myself last night. You knock around a pitcher and have a guy on second with no outs in the 2nd inning and you play for one run? Dumb, dumb, dumb…and one of the ways that managers really hurt their team’s chance to win. It’s hard to knock Tony for it since this is replete throughout baseball, but I can’t emphasize enough how ridiculous it is to play for one extra run…especially in today’s day and age, in the first half of a ballgame. We might never have needed the Shu heroics had Tony let the boys keep swinging in the 2nd. D.GOOCH
-- GOOCH
by GOOCH24 on May 3, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Double steal
I thought it was stupid too, but I think Pujols just misread a sign. LaRussa said last night it was a “miscue” and “there was no play on.”
by Red in Chicago on May 3, 2008 2:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Always
You always play to get the first run, and for one run late. ALWAYS!
I’d really hate seeing some of you as managers.
by SoonerfanTU on May 3, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Two things
If Soriano is getting his ass handed to him on curves, throwing shit cutters is asking for trouble. Especially if it’s known that Izzy has been sitting on that cutter too damn much.
We need a dual warmup scenario. Izzy needs to be evaluated as he’s warming up, if something is not there, bring in whomever else is warming up. And Molina needs to make sure to take control of Izzy when he needs to.
Izzy’s workload has increased this year compared to the past couple of years, but never before has he struggled this early. 10 saves may be nice to read, but the 3 blown saves leave a bad taste. He’s on pace for 50 saves+ this year, which is 16 more than his best year in 2000, and he hasn’t came anywhere close since.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
actually...
he had 47 in ‘04 …tied the cards record and 39 in ‘05
"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on May 3, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bad
baseball reference completely borks in Opera, so all of my stats in that post ended up as well.
9 saves, which is on pace for his best year of ‘04
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by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The other thing about his workload this season is
even when he doesn’t come into games, he seems to be constantly warming up.
"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams
by Valatan on May 3, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know what I'd boo?
Fans who want to talk about booing a night after a win over our rivals and sitting atop the NL Central.
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by stltrav09 on May 3, 2008 2:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
+1
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on May 3, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You know who I would boo?
I would boo fans who boo the fans for talking about booing.
by birdjam on May 3, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i thought
everybody was saying boo-urns
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
by rocKStark5 on May 3, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He GOOCH
Didn’t you do that Matt Cain “does he have a straight fastball” diary fanpost a little while back. I remember you having the average values for a fastball for both rigth/lefty, do you have average MLB pitch f/x values for all pitches i.e. sliders/curves/changeups etc.?
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
by joker24 on May 3, 2008 2:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I just looked at fastballs. But that sounds like a good follow up to do. D.GOOCH
-- GOOCH
by GOOCH24 on May 3, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lineup
shumaker
b ryan
pujols
luddy
glaus
ank
molina
lohse
izturis
by cdb on May 3, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I don't know...
if I like seeing Ank all the way back at 6th, personally.
by mynameistyler on May 3, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't mind it so much..
with a lefty on the mound….even though rick has no problem hitting lefties. I actually like the fact that it pushes Molina down to 7th where he belongs.
"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on May 3, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once again
Move BR to SS and replace Izturis with Miles, at 2nd
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by Mr Redbird on May 3, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miles?
How about Kennedy. Who’s actually been playing well.. and has one of his few HR against Lilly.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think overall Miles is a better hitter than Kennedy
Although as liam points out below, the defense of a BR/Iz2 MIF is pretty good
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by Mr Redbird on May 3, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't say I agree
I think Kennedy gets too much of a hard time based on his injury season, and looking past it provides a lot more than miles. and Ryan seems to me to be better on the left side of second than the right, nor would I call him a defensive improvement to Kennedy.
Irregardless, I think I can find a lot more things to better debate than who should be in the line up, miles or kennedy. So I’ll agree to disagree.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Izturis and Ryan
That’s a spectacularly rangy middle infield.
by liam on May 3, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
looks pretty good to me.
especially with Iz2 being back in the 9 hole, where he belongs.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 3, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The silver lining
Losing a game on a walk-off homer in extra innings is much more demoralizing than being shut out in the bottom of the ninth with a two run deficit. Of course, the Cubs might be immune to demoralizing loses at this point.
by bjork24 on May 3, 2008 2:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought the same thing last night
"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on May 3, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Would've liked to see
Pujols homer one of Wood’s better pitches. That would’ve been the most demoralizing outcome, I imagine.
Not that I’m complaining with what went down, of course.
by liam on May 3, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The only thing worse
would be Iz getting a walk off.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 3, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My favorite clip from pitchingclips.com
So sweet…

by bjork24 on May 3, 2008 2:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
giddy
I cant stop grinnin looking at that video!
Great Stuff!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 3, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Seriously
Talk about throwing your whole body into a pitch. Waino is looking at the ground at one point!
by bjork24 on May 3, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He knew it was perfect
He didnt have to watch it all the way through. Before he threw it, he said to himself; “Carlos aint gonna hit this, I’ll bet he closes his eyes at it…. 12-6 SUCKA!”.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 3, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That was the scariest at-bat I think I've ever watched
It made it all the more sweet whenBeltran just watched that ball go by
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by Mr Redbird on May 3, 2008 3:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ankiel
I am a new poster, despite having read this blog for a couple of years. Thanks to lboros and company for the insights and local news for those of us from out of town.
I’m very curious abut what people think Moz will do this winter regarding Ankiel.
If he regresses back to .260/.320/.500, what type of deal does he get? I’ve always been skeptical of his success, but I hope he proves me wrong, given all that he’s been through.
I know Boras complicates things and he’s only been in the majors for three months.
Thanks
by greenwichvillagecard on May 3, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
He's arbitration-eligible
It sounds like he’s going to wait until the off-season to decide whether to go long with him or to just offer arbitration and keep him on a one-year deal.
Some of it may depend on how Rasmus looks in CF later this season. If we can negotiate with the understanding that Rasmus is the established CF for the next several years and Ankiel’s a corner outfielder, his defensive value is reduced and his contract will be largely about the quality of his bat.
All that being said, I doubt we’d go cheap on Ank after all we’ve invested in him. I’ll guess we sign him on a one-year deal for around 4-5 million.
by liam on May 3, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thanks for the well thought out post
It was a good read, and touched upon alot of important subjects. I myself look forward to the day when cable and the internet collide, and you can choose different announcers and ways of watching the game. that may take a while, but could theoretically be right around the corner.
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 3, 2008 4:40 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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