Game 51 Overflow Thread
by the red baron on May 24, 2008 11:31 PM EDT
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for you own warning.
if anyone wakes up in st louis tomorrow and charter communications has burned to the ground…...not me…....ok me.
I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!
online chat, I was #996 in the queue and the phones are still busy.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Having moved to the left coast
I’d have to say that not dealing with Charter’s shit would be reason enough to move if I had to do it all over again. They’re absolutely apalling in every way. St. Louisans should riot. Seriously. Rise up and destroy them.
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2008 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions
iz2 makes the play?
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
I hate Miles
We have two TRUE FUCKING SHORTSTOPS ON THE ROSTER WHY IS HE PLAYING SHORTSTOP.
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
then he makes this one!!
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
ask and you shall receive
other than the scrabble/ouija approach, why does someone with tlr’s experience ask miles to do what he cannot do? baffling to say the least!
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
why the
F is Mini Me playing SS?
are IZ2 & Boog in the hospital?
because that is the only excuse for him to ever set foot near the SS position
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
If MIles isn't playing shortstop...
he’d still be in the lineup, replacing either Ankiel or Duncan.
Start Ludwick
or molina
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by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno...
Tony just loves the guy. He’d find room even if he’d have to invent a position to play him.
Start Ludwick
since when?
he’d replace Kennedy, and I’m sure we’d all be ok with that
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions
That I could live with
miles has a decent bat, but not the kind you sacrifice defense over.
If TLR really wanted to play Kennedy he should just play him with Ryan/Iz2
agreed
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 11:51 PM EDT up reply actions
In Kennedy's defense...
He does have a 1.000 OBP tonight.
I'll give him that
sadly for the month of May it won’t make much of a difference to this line 151/.211/.189
The guy who gets the hard time with the bat – LaRue has .250/.400/.333 this month (SSS) to put Kennedy’s May in prospective
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
i can hear it now
lohse looks at lineup card and exalts over the defensive support laid out
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
right side isn't bad
but the left? Miles+Duncan just don’t make me feel good about balls hit to the left side of the field
Of course I can only follow through gameday
But Lohse appears to be pitching his tail off, this team is on some kind of roll right now.
not really
he is getting very lucky to avoid his mistakes and his defense’s, but yes he is pitching great with little to no stuff, luckly he is probably done since his spot is up
damn lohse got away with the last two pitches
5 years ago Kent doesn’t miss those
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
thankfully the Dodgers have a few has-beens
Franklin had a lot of guts yesterday, but a few of those pitches to Jones he usually kills us on.
last fastball to Martin
didn’t look like it was in a good spot, either. At least per pitch f/x. 96 pitches through six.
Way to pitch through it Lohse
Can’t get worked up over the infield stuff.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 11:54 PM EDT reply actions
Come on Miles
take the walk, that well inside
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 11:58 PM EDT reply actions
That should be it for lohse......right?
put in the defense…..
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 24, 2008 11:58 PM EDT reply actions
Barton
is on deck to hit for lohse. do you think he’ll stay in as a d sub?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
an upgrade, but not much of one.
And if you do that you’ve got to PH again when Dunc’s spot comes up with a short bench.
I wouldnt put it past
TLR
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 25, 2008 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
I hope so
no need to burn two bench players. Who’s warming up?
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
FLO-mo
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 25, 2008 12:00 AM EDT up reply actions
probably not
if he gets out then the pitchers spot would make sense staying 8th, if he gets on then we have to get to Dunc before he stays in
he should double switch right now
ludwick and Isturias
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 25, 2008 12:02 AM EDT reply actions
Can handle Flo coming in
while he’s brilliant at letting inherited runners score, he trends quite well when starting off the inning.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:02 AM EDT reply actions
and
good game for Lohse. Let’s see if he can start getting some of that scoreless streak magic he had early April.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:03 AM EDT up reply actions
who knew half of the team was originally from CA?
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
also
who cares?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 25, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
Vin Scully does
and it’s kind of bizarre how many he points out
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
is Vin Scully from Cali?
that would be a good indicator of the bizaare.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 25, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions
it's hard to not get rusty playing as sparingly as he does
not to mention he was rushed to the big leagues.
flat footed
and looking
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 25, 2008 12:04 AM EDT up reply actions
seems to get caught looking alot lately
ideas why?
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by ihavebadknees on May 25, 2008 12:05 AM EDT up reply actions
ummm
probably has something to do with the fact that he only sees about 3 pitches when hes at the bat, sparingly as it is.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 25, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
and Miles time at SS is over
Izturis in
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
hooray!
and the Kennedy space/time continuum disruption device has been benched for Super Mario.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 25, 2008 12:06 AM EDT up reply actions
Hmm, my 09 bullpen thoughts
Perez: lets see how he handles it this year, so good so far
Franklin: Decent but not great
Motte: Has only 1 good pitch right now, but it is hella good
Kinney: Can he come back?
Garcia: bullpen internship should do him some good
Johnson: How well does he recover?
Worrell: Will he have success in the bigs?
Yeah
Garcia is a viable option, but he is like wainwright, top of the rotation potential, we want to have him progress slow and steady and not over do it, Boggs I am not that worried about tossing out as a 5th starter if we need one
Doesn't McClellan
need to start for a while in AAA first?
by Red in Chicago on May 25, 2008 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
He can get MLB hitters out
If he retools his arm over the offseason, I would think he coudl be fine.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
he could try starting out of ST and see how it develops. Didn’t Looper and Waino do the same last year?
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Last I remember hearing about Kinney
There were some complications with his rehab. Or something. I wonder if we’ll ever see him again, or if he’s locked in Paletta’s basement being experimented on.
he did have a set back
but i think it was one of the typical Tommy John not going as smooth as you would like type of things
broken bone i believe was the major set back
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Franklin has a 277 era+ and is 7th in all the majors in WXRL
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
means this year he's not decent
but in solid form
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Means he’s a class above decent in his performance this year.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:19 AM EDT up reply actions
blah
i had a full response typed out that got lost, basically low BABIP, high LD rate, a FIP double his ERA (which is still low really) I just don’t think Franklin is as good as those stats make him out to be
Yeah, I don't think anyone expects Franklin to be outperforming Rivera and co. this year
but he’s been pretty good thus far, one has to admit.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
yes he has been good
but not that good, and we have him signed so we might as well use him, who knows he might end up in the rotation next year
ERA+ is your ERA relative to league average and adjusted to the parks played in
with some other adjustments—a high ERA+ means a low ERA. 1968 Gibson: 258 ERA+
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
that said, there are a lot of issues with relief pitcher ERA
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
is it adjusted
to reflect starters vs bullpen?
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by ihavebadknees on May 25, 2008 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions
WXRL is like the VORP for Relievers.
I can’t find my BP book but it’s their metric of choice for relievers. If I remember correctly it takes into consideration leverage situations etc.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
here
http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=6313
The qualities of WXRL to keep in mind:
- WXRL is a counting stat, measured in wins.
- All WXRL values are above replacement level—any below replacement-level performances have negative values.
- WXRL accounts for inherited and bequeathed runners.
- Leverage matters. A reliever who comes into high-leverage situations will accumulate more WXRL than a player who pitches just as well in garbage time.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
Keep an eye
on the Memphis Flores. Great K/BB ratio (better than Motte and Perez last I looked), WHIP, good stuff. He is a lil prone to getting beat on a bit (3 games he’s gotten hit on, 20+ he’s been lights out). Nothing a year in Memphis can’t fix.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:10 AM EDT up reply actions
agreed
I’m holding a little bit of judgement until later in the season, but if it’s anything like his first 25 games? I’m all for it. He’s really coming along with us, and wasn’t horrible when he was with the A’s during his small stints in the Majors
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:16 AM EDT up reply actions
you think villone will be back? he has to continue the tour i think.
maybe tyler johnson? having both flores’ on the team would confuse me too much.
depends on the price one would think
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
You might be seeing Perez in the 9th with the 4 runs
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 25, 2008 12:11 AM EDT reply actions
of course Tony has LUD
hitting against a lefty
brilliant
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
he prob wouldnt be on the all star ballot though
and thats nice
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by ihavebadknees on May 25, 2008 12:25 AM EDT up reply actions
what?
He was on the ballot to start the season, I don’t get why people think he was just added recently
bc
i dont know any better
but more at bats = more stats which leads to better chance to make it
i think i get that one
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by ihavebadknees on May 25, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
yes you do
People vote based on leaderboards quite often, so qualifying for those always helps. Ludwick needs one more PA in this game to keep qualifying, I think TLR needs to play him for that reason alone if he has too.
with the colapse
of the rockies and the padres….....
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 25, 2008 12:20 AM EDT up reply actions
Kuo looks hard to hit
His breaking pitches have some ridiculous movement. I’m glad they used him tonight instead of in a game with the lead.
by cloistermaximus on May 25, 2008 12:19 AM EDT reply actions
Two players from same town in Taiwan playing for Dodgers
My guess is the Dodgers have a scout or two over there. Tainan is baseball-nuts, BTW.
maybe there only one down
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 25, 2008 12:23 AM EDT up reply actions
make that town
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 25, 2008 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions
Not sure what you mean
Tainan is about the fourth largest city in Taiwan. Fewer than a million people, I think. Chien-Ming Wang is from there, too.
off humor for a huge island
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 25, 2008 12:36 AM EDT up reply actions
They've really slowed the overuse of K-Mac as of late
Which is really, really nice. He looks a lot better the past couple of outings. Goes to show that the Izzy dramas weren’t just saves and holding leads, but the ripple across the pen.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:23 AM EDT reply actions
Yeah
Perez hs fit in really well—pretty much just taking over Franklin’s old role, and letting everyone else stay in their places
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Can't wait for the flip flop
I really can’t wait to see how Perez handles a ML save situation day in and day out
it's working fine the way it is
I’d rather we not rock the boat until and if Franklin falters
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
true
I really want Izzy to get 8 more saves and get to 300 but I just don’t know if he will be back this year
agreed
hope he gets back to old form, and hope that we do some solid play this year. I’d like to make sure to find him enough games to get to 300, if nothing else.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
yeah
the way he handled his regression was admirable, i really respect it
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by ihavebadknees on May 25, 2008 12:26 AM EDT up reply actions
Let's add a couple
we go back into a tie for first place with a win tonight
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
The Proctologist is in
Good chance with 3-6 in the order off him
by cloistermaximus on May 25, 2008 12:27 AM EDT up reply actions
the flubs lost to the Pirates?
i don’t believe it
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
proof
that even a blind hog finds an acorn ever’ now and again.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 25, 2008 12:29 AM EDT up reply actions
Just be glad
that they’re over half way through with the games vs the Pirates this year. I’m tired of them getting chump wins.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:28 AM EDT up reply actions
we gifted them two games
in the last series by bullpen collapses. massive lob totals and hits. Now we have the bullpen solidified so hopefully when we catch them back at home soon, it won’t be as big of an issue, but the Cubs have dominated them and gotten the wins to represent it. We have so far too, and have given them the wins.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:31 AM EDT up reply actions
In the Cards' defense
The Pirates were much hotter earlier in the season. In fact, the Cards always seem to be going into series’ against hot teams. It makes their early success more impressive IMO.
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
Indeed
Last time we went against Houston, they were on a massive run, we held them to under 5 runs or something close to that. Rays? Same thing, even the Cubbies when we faced them
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
I think
the series against the Rays is seeming more impressive by the day. The Cards somehow managed to take the series even though Tampa Bay was scorching – and since the series, the Rays are 4-1.
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2008 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
i was really surpirsed to win that serries
my friend is a rays fan, an i knew how hot they are
that felt nice
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by ihavebadknees on May 25, 2008 12:40 AM EDT up reply actions
The Pirates aren't that bad
But they just can’t seem to win against the Cubs.. Seems like s psychological thing to me.. Like Brad Lidge trying to get a save against the Cardinals.
by cloistermaximus on May 25, 2008 12:30 AM EDT up reply actions
BTW
While Pujols’ HR in San Diego was proven to be 405’ his one against Lidge was show to be over 450’, massive shot
giggled when I read that
I miss backe, we’ll see him soon! lol
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:32 AM EDT up reply actions
as a younger Cardinals fan
It has seemed like the Astros have been as fierce a rivalry as the Cubs. I really don’t like the Astros and relish any time we get the opportunity to defeat them. Not that I am a fan of the Cubs or anything, but beating up on Lidge and shelling Backe is awesome.
hopefully
methinks that TLR just CANT pull Super Mario off of 2b.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 25, 2008 12:34 AM EDT up reply actions
4 runs lead feel so nice
i like being alittle confident
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I love it
Look at that Range! Would I put Iz there for a game? Nah, but for an inning? Hell yeah. Nothing, technically should ever get out of the infield.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
as one gets through
doh!
lol
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 25, 2008 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
lol
sigh, (well Miles is the weakest link)
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:38 AM EDT up reply actions
Miles: you are the weakest link… Goodbye!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 25, 2008 12:39 AM EDT up reply actions
im as impressed as you are
that IF, minus the Mang, has zero pop. Good thing its the bottom of the ninth.
Finish em here boys!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 25, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
this has to be like
the most boring game i’ve seen in a long time.
i’m seriously about to fall asleep
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
ill take a boring win
those boring losses hurt the soul
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by ihavebadknees on May 25, 2008 12:37 AM EDT up reply actions
i was just thinking after that hit
SH!T
i hope i didn’t just jinx them.
these STL announcers are killing me as well. its like listening to them call a golf tournament.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
comfort level
Izturis is a veteran so Tony has more confidence in him at 3B then Ryan and Ryan is more comfortable at SS anyway.
there was some law and order from perez
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 25, 2008 12:39 AM EDT reply actions
someone may have mentioned this already...
but I doubt it…Tom Green is sitting behind home plate. He has a beard.
my bum is on your lips
my bum is on your lips
sorry, every time i hear his name that damn song pops in my head
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
he has a local show out here...
he airs live from his living room…it has a waynes world feel to it (but real). It may have been canceled already.
gameday is going crazy
first it said loney made an out, then it said he had 2 strikes and was still batting, now it says kent is on first and kemp is batting with no outs? whaaaa?
by RedbirdAvenger on May 25, 2008 12:40 AM EDT reply actions
Gameday has been pretty craptastic this year
I think there are bugs in the new gameday that nobody has fixed yet. I miss the old gameday.
by cloistermaximus on May 25, 2008 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
single, strikeout
runner on first, one out
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:41 AM EDT up reply actions
thanks all..
seems to be righting itself now.
by RedbirdAvenger on May 25, 2008 12:42 AM EDT up reply actions
Looking ahead
Seems we’re going to have Waino vs Backe in a few days (Cards have listed as TBD, but I’m assuming Waino). That’ll be a game to go see. Mouth vs ‘the curve’
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:41 AM EDT reply actions
skipping Piniero
They are using the off day to skip Joel (his butt hurts….no seriously) so that might be the reason for the TBDs since it was just announced today
How ya feeling Pin?
Well, my ass hurts a lil, but it’s getting better Al
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:43 AM EDT up reply actions
can't wait to root against Becky...
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
geesh, those Molina's can take a punch
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
the batter fouled a pitch back off of Yadier's mask
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
considering that it was Perez throwing
and it looked fastball… let’s just say it’s not something I’d volunteer to experiece
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
yes it was the heater
and i wouldn’t volunteer to take on off my melon either
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
didn't you see the foul ball
smacked right off his face mask?
he barley even flinched. just stood up, shook his head once or twice then was ready to go.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
This might be a bold statement
But Perez’ fastball reminds me of Papelbon’s. It’s not the 98-103 Joel Zumaya, but it seems to have that life and hitters just don’t hit it.
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
HOLY SHIT
Peaking at the Pitch F/x stuff right away, that first slider to DeWitt went down -1.2 inches and across 5.3 at 85 mph. Holy shit. Basically that’s K-Rod’s slider.
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
and thats the slider I hadn’t seen yet. he’s getting past the amped up state. It was solid
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
This comes when he pitched yesterday
He was sitting 96-98 and was throwing K-Rod’s slider. I am happy in the pants. He should be the closer. Now.
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
comfort
is a four run lead.
Way to go boys!
WINNER!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 25, 2008 12:44 AM EDT up reply actions
I’d have to agree with Tony at the moment, let Perez get comphy for a bit while Franklin cleans up the 9th. I’d like to see the slider come back to Memphis state (it has looked good, but not Memphis good.. yet).
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:45 AM EDT up reply actions
That's been my luck all day
I say something, and then it goes against me. Range in the 9th, single. Lineup bitching, 4 run inning, slider, shown and conquered. Lol, sigh.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:48 AM EDT up reply actions
actually
I’d prefer to put him in the highest leverage situations possible, not just dedicate him to the ninth.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
AND THAT'S A WINNER!!!!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
there is your new closer
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 25, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions
OH BABY!
k’s the side.
i love this kid.
by RedbirdAvenger on May 25, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions
WOW
Sit down, Blake DeWitt…
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 25, 2008 12:44 AM EDT reply actions
I was just about to post the same thing
Take that, pundits.
by cloistermaximus on May 25, 2008 12:50 AM EDT up reply actions
that is amazing
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
12-10 in May
who was it that said if we did .500 in May, they’d start to believe?
We’re almost home on that one, what 2 more wins out of the next 6 to guarantee a .500 May? Not bad after that start.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
13-11 on the road
one of only three NL teams with a winning record on the road
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on May 25, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
Our road record
and being able to win on the road will be a huge factor as the season goes on in this division and our race against the Cubs (who are not near as dominating on the road as they are at Wrigley). As long as we can keep pace with them we will be in good shape because we DO play better on the road than they do thus far. Although Houston is also a better than average road team as well. Sould be a fun summer.
i just wanna have fun
just give us a chance
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on May 25, 2008 1:26 AM EDT up reply actions
postgame interview
He was the FSN player of the game, and the interviewer asked him about the fastball heavy pitch selection. His answer? He doesn’t know these batters at all so he just threw whatever Yadi asked for :-)
Ay caramba!
I have seen the Cardinals bullpen future, and the future is sick.
By sick I mean WOW…Perez throws a NASTY slider and a 95+ fastball. That kid is going to be real, real good, I think.
"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
Nice win, boys.
Chris P was filthy tonight. I am not looking forward to facing Clayton Kershaw tomorrow. Young unknown pitchers like that always seem to hurt us. I would love for the boys to prove me wrong though.
He's kinda wild
And as the game thread today stated, if there’s anything this offense is good at it’s taking walks. Should be able to take advantage of #1 he’s naturally wild and #2 MLB debut wildness. I’m betting 4-5+ walks tomorrow.
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
I'd love to see a kickass lineup
against him, instead of the “well we won the series, sit half the crew out” ones Tony tends to put in around now.
Skip
Ryan
Pu
Luddy
Glaus
Rick
Mo
Welly
Iz
seems good enough for me
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 1:03 AM EDT up reply actions
Twenty dollars says
no one would have called that a “kickass lineup” coming out of spring training. It might have been labeled as an “asskick lineup”, but not the former.
"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
It is not likely
we will see that lineup (and I know the one you are talking about) because they will be heading home for a day off after the game and they just had a day off on Thursday. TLR does like to win.
I hope so
Days off have really aided the situation this go around (and yeah, that lineup blew :( )
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 1:14 AM EDT up reply actions
Question...What happens when Izzy gets it figured out?
Or when Izzy says he gets it figured out and is ready to come back?
Does Perez go back down, or does Izzy go on a rehab assignment, or does the organization try to delay Izzy’s return with another injury, like Mulder?
Either way, I really like how these young kids are making life hard decision wise for management.
"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
I think they should send McClellan down so he can start games at Memphis and compete for the rotation next spring.
K-Mac has been Tony vetted
he’s going no where.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 12:58 AM EDT up reply actions
Yeah
He can go down later this year if we’re out of contention. Or not.
by Red in Chicago on May 25, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions
I guess. I’d like to see him start.
They’ll probably send Parisi down when Izzy returns, if he isn’t sent down before then.
Parisi is the long man, Izzy will come back up I’m sure. But the decision won’t be as simple as that. If it were me? Springer would bounce for a bit – worst case.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
But he's pitched well, too.
And frnakly, I love Izzy, but Parisi, McClellan, and now Perez are all getting it done. And unfortunately, you can’t say that about Izzy.
"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
Parisi is supposedly the long reliever
I’m not sure what they would do, but Parisi and Izzy/Perez don’t have remotely comparable bullpen roles.
by Red in Chicago on May 25, 2008 1:02 AM EDT up reply actions
Just to complicate matters
Do you put Carpenter in the bullpen at first, or just wait until he feels good enough to start?
Well
It’s hard enough on the Izzy debate to find room, let alone Carp.
I think it may be a good idea to see how Carp is around trade deadline. Trade away Lohse and plug Carp in. Lohse isn’t going to be worth the value on the market, he’s trade bait. Get something for him if we can.
If Carp has a setback, there’s nothing to say we couldn’t look at Garcia coming up and giving him a 15 day spell.
Way too early to debate Carp though.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 1:11 AM EDT up reply actions
There's no way we'd get the value we could get from Lohse after just giving him arbitration probably
We’d get a 1st round supp pick and either a 1st/2nd rounder depending on who signs him. Unless we can get 2 pretty good prospects, it’d be worth it to just hold him.
For reference: for Renteria our compensation was Colby Rasmus (and Mark McCormick…but Colby Rasmus!)
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
Lohse also gets
a million-dollar bonus if he’s traded during the season, IIRC.
by Red in Chicago on May 25, 2008 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions
half mil
but even Looper can be in that conversation since he’s a FA next year. Just thinking that if we can get Carp in the rotation with Garcia as a backup incase of DL we may be able to grab a prospect of someone we won’t see next year.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 1:20 AM EDT up reply actions
off*
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions
Garcia + Boggs
Anyone know if Looper would be a Type A?
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
Egad!
I forgot about him…is that a good thing?
Put him in the rotation. He’s the hoss. Monitor his pitch count, maybe start at 80 and stretch him out start by start. By September he should be rounding out into top form, and you’ve got Carp/Waino/Lohse/Looper/Wellemeyer.
That’s a pretty damn good rotation.
"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
he’s with us in ‘09 as well, so we’re going to be stuck with him I’d say, I don’t see him moving
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 1:12 AM EDT up reply actions
Hasn't anyone in the front office
ever heard of the principle of “sunk cost”? Pineiro & Kennedy both need to go.
by Red in Chicago on May 25, 2008 1:13 AM EDT up reply actions
Ummm
He’s done exactly what he was signed for. League average ERA with 5-6 innings a start.
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
+1
Pin has kept us in games, even if it’s a little taxing on the ‘pen, but he’s a locked in piece to the huge pitching puzzle.
Add to that, he’s keeping us in games. I won’t complain.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 25, 2008 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions
Pineiro hasn't been great
but he hasn’t been horrible either. That last game in San Diego was lost on a bad walk and one bad pitch. He hasn’t been getting much run support either in his outings..that’s been his problem thus far.
I wouldn’t throw him under the bus yet….
Well, he's not one of the 5 best w/Carp back
If AK can be “Tonya Hardinged”, so can Joel, ha ha.
Just kidding on that, but I guess a trade of one of the starters isn’t out of the question, as long as Carp shows he’s the old Carp prior to the trade deadline.
It will definitely be interesting, that’s for sure.
"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."
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