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Game 51 Open Thread- 24th May, 2008

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 Kyle Lohse            Brad Penny

  3-2, 4.71                5-4, 5.43

 

Not a line we're used to seeing from Penny, eh? He's struggled mightily this year, although there have been signs of life lately. A large part of his struggles this year have been command issues, which should play nicely into the Cardinals' hands. If ever there was ever a team I felt pretty confident about being able to work the count, work a pitcher, and, if needed, work a walk, it just may be the 2008 St. Louis Cardinals. So far this year, the Cardinals have 231 walks. That's 23 more than the second team on the list, the Cubs. For this early in the season, that's a huge advantage. When you're leading the second place team by about ten full percent of your total, it's tough to really even fathom. Take some pitches tonight, boys. He may still not walk a ton of batter, but he is getting himself into trouble with high pitch counts and just getting behind hitters in general. I suppose I can't say too much about the guy, though, since he has seen Alyssa Milano naked, probably quite a few times. Me, I have trouble convincing Netflix to let me rent "Embrace of the Vampire." sigh...

Couple of notes:

I forgot in this morning's post, but Doug Davis, our old friend from Milwaukee, now of the Diamondbacks, made his return to the mound last night in grand fashion, throwing seven shutout innings against the El Bravos. I know quite a few of us here made our way over to the DBacks blog and signed their get well card for him, and I wanted to make sure and bring this up. Congratulations to Mr. Davis on making it back on the field. He came back far more quickly than I would have ever thought possible; I suppose it just goes to show what the human will, and the human body, are capable of. Again, congrats, Mr. Davis.

Joe Strauss has a nice little piece up today about the travails of Colby down in Memphis, as well as all the recent craziness that's surrounded the Rasmus clan. It's a good read.

Lots of draft talk going on over at Future Redbirds . I love the draft. No idea why, but I really do. I'll probably be talking about it again on Wednesday. Getting close now, only about a week and a half... Also, FR just celebrated their one millionth hit recently. Congrats to erik and the boy over there; they all do an outstanding job.

Speaking of Alyssa Milano, did anyone else think the season finale of My Name is Earl was a little crappy?

Random music recommendation: MGMT's new album, Oracular Spectacular. Try "Time to Pretend," "Electric Feel," or, my personal favourite, "Weekend Wars." You won't be sorry. Well, probably not anyway.

Alright, everybody, enjoy the game tonight. I'm going to try my hand at one of those preprogrammed overflow threads, but I haven't used them yet. If something goes horribly wrong, email me at asaeschafer@gmail.com and I'll try to get it taken care of. I'll have my BlackBerry with me, so I should get the message, and I'll see if I can get to a computer or something. Thanks.

 

 

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The lineup is up

Unbelievable….......he sits Ludwick…......leave Kennedy in….....and puts miles at shortstop…..
I protest…............

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 24, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree, one of our worse lineups so far this year in my opinion

Schumaker
Duncan
Pujols
Ankiel
Glaus
Miles
Molina
Lohse
Kennedy

Yadi is my hero

by Big Phil on May 24, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

It makes me uncomfortable to see Ankiel bat 4th

That in itself is terrible for this team. Penny will work the latter on him. After his struggles last night, he seems a little vulnerable to high fastballs, ya think!!!!!!

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 24, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

kennedy...

...better start hitting again soon. Somebody mentioned in the previous post that Tony should give Barton a chance to start multiple games and work his way through his slump. Maybe he is doing it with Kennedy instead? Either way, this is a chance for him to make a case for him to be an everyday player on the team. Not that I think he can do it.

by kblakestl on May 24, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

i have already started

franklining

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on May 24, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

its a long weekend

what better time to franklin it up

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

line-ups without frankilin

deserve a addition to the drinking game

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by mattyfrommo on May 24, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

i guess franklining got to me

Line-ups without Ludwick (especially against RHers), deserve an addition

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by mattyfrommo on May 24, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

wouldn't this be the day to sit Ludwick

right hander fastball pitcher – the best type for a Duncan, Schumaker, Ankiel OF.

by enoscountry on May 24, 2008 9:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

except for the fact

Ludwick owns righthanders

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on May 24, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

exactly

why piss on the fire

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 24, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

except for the fact

Duncan stinks against Left Handers. I know Ludwick rocks against RH pitchers, but the point is not his splits, but Duncan’s. If you are going to sit Ludwick you do it against Right Handed pitchers since Duncan will do much better.

by enoscountry on May 24, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

but here's where that argument fails

we’re not in the middle of 9 games in a row. We have two days off within 5. There’s no logic in sitting him in the first place, find a slump, or a day off when it’s needed.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 9:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

blasphemy , I know

but if you want to get Dunc in there, tonight would be the perfect night to give APu one of those nights off that Tony wants to give him

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by mattyfrommo on May 24, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

I would be a lot more ok with the lineup if Albert was getting a day off (though, with the schedule, it’s not needed) than this.

“Who’s the SP?” ...
_ a righty”...
“Well slot Duncan in left”
“What about Luddy?”
“Slot Duncan in left, it’s a righty!”

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 10:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to debate

whether Ludwick does or doesn’t need a rest – I am just as ticked he’s out as everyone.

I am just sick of hearing people say “Ludwick bats better against Righties,” like Tony doesn’t know. My simple point is that IF you are going to sit Ludwick you want to do it against Righties. Whether now is the time to sit I disagree with Tony just as much as everyone else.

by enoscountry on May 24, 2008 9:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Then in that post's context

we’ll agree. My point was that there is no reason for ‘if’, and in this reply you’ve said the same. So we’re on the same page.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

in theory it might be a good idea, in practice…not so much

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by mattyfrommo on May 24, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

All of the double leadoff haters will love this. Lohse has shown he can nail the ball to the warning track.

So while we may have the pitcher batting 8th, we’re now placing our pussiest hitter in 9th. Rejoice!

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

what you do is

have Duncan play against righties instead of one of the other 2 OFers, not in place of he who is on fire

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by mattyfrommo on May 24, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

frozen

is anyone elses foxsports midwest on charter (channel 37) froze up????

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 24, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

Jess Todd is 6 inning into a no hitter.

only 71 pitches. He has been lights out all year.

Yadi is my hero

by Big Phil on May 24, 2008 9:32 PM EDT reply actions  

The like to Strauss's Rasmus story.

Isn’t working. P-D most have changed it’s location.

by Evilfrog on May 24, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply actions  

here

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 9:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

good news boys

the bucs are threatening in the ninth, 2 on nobody out

Losing is a disease

by ANDYAK47 on May 24, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply actions  

2nd and 3rd one out

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

charter

I FREAKIN HATE CHARTER!!!!!

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 24, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions  

I AGREE!!!!

EXCLAMATION POINTS EXPRESS MY ANGER!!!

Rasmus or bust.

by Zoop on May 24, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

????

r u just frozen too?????

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 24, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

Black screen… HATE Charter. Need DirecTV.

Rasmus or bust.

by Zoop on May 24, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

black screen.

funny. i got this guy walking in Cintrue Bank. hes just frozen there. Just waiting to go in. But Charter wont let me.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 24, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol me too....

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 24, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

If you have HD, you pretty much have to go with the dish

Boatloads more HD channels.

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 24, 2008 11:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have DISH

but direct has more sports channels, but both have more then cable by far

by StLHugo on May 24, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah either way, cable just doesn't cut it if you have HD

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 24, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh and not to mention

DirecTV at least has that downloadable OnDemand deal going now too. Haven’t rigged it up yet but that was the only reason I stuck with cable for as long as I did in the first place. Now there’s not even a question provided that isn’t a big hassle…which of course is assuming a lot.

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 24, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pirates tie

runner on 2nd

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply actions  

23-8 vs the dogers

that is pretty crazy

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply actions  

situation

is no one else having problems with fsn midwest? on charter like all channels like 30-43 are frozen. this is so stupid, pay all this money and cant watch the game!

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 24, 2008 10:02 PM EDT reply actions  

cubs go 1-2-3 in the ninth

matt capps rips right through a ramirez, soto, and fukudome.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 24, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions  

YAY

I forgot about the game being on wgn

Yadi is my hero

by Big Phil on May 24, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tony better just be giving Luddy a day off

but even that does not make any sense the way he is playing

Losing is a disease

by ANDYAK47 on May 24, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply actions  

we're off Monday as well

means a day off on each side of this series. I dunno why Tony is sitting Luddy, but rest doesn’t look to be the practical issue

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Albert, Glaus, Ludwick, and Ankiel

Should play every day. Molina should play almost every day.

by stl tyler on May 24, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

But who cares about the others

when luddy is as hot as he is

Yadi is my hero

by Big Phil on May 24, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tony does

Personally I would like to see Ludwick play first some time when Pujols needs a day off.

by StLHugo on May 24, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

By that approach

then the line up should be

barton
rick
and
skip

Past ten –
Luddy – 8 games
Barton – 3 games
Rick – 6 games (injury)
Skip – 6 games
ducan – 7 games

Ludwick isn’t getting an overpowering amount of starts. Oddly enough in he past ten overall he’s the one outfielder that’s deserved it.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

not at all

He has had plenty of days off

Losing is a disease

by ANDYAK47 on May 24, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply actions  

man these late games are crazy

the west coast messes with my mind

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Im a little late in here

and its been said…but this is insane!!!!

Ludwick is an everyday player. Ludwick is one of the best players in all of baseball right now. If him playing everyday means Duncan or Skippy has to sit then fucking sit them!!!!!!!!!

by gossard56 on May 24, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah bottom line

He is our best player right now

Losing is a disease

by ANDYAK47 on May 24, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

ugh

Rick Horton game.

I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.

by madding on May 24, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply actions  

where are you?

how are you getting the game? do you satellite?

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 24, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

haha

family’s watching juno. i’m stuck with gameday.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 24, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

that hurts

on the inside

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

ouch

at least I like Harry Potter

by StLHugo on May 24, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

terrible movie i’m stuck through.

by stlcardinalsfang on May 24, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

juno is just plain awful

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 24, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

extra innings

I live in Portland. heh.

I’ve decided that Ricky is alright as a commentator, but not as the play-by-play guy…

I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.

by madding on May 24, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've said this before

but TLR is the ONLY manager in baseball who would not have Ludwick in the lineup tonight. Pathetic!!!!!!

by gossard56 on May 24, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply actions  

geez.

look forward to this game all day and then freakin charter blows. now i get the radio now. why do i pay money to these people.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 24, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Charter's out here too.

St. Louis Hills region… Where are you guys?

Rasmus or bust.

by Zoop on May 24, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions  

bridgeton. north county.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 24, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm south in arnold, my ex girlfiend is in Maryland Heights

and we’re both down….the 888 get charter number is busy, and she said she waited an hour online to find out it’s a known outage with no ETA

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 24, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats it.

this just might be the final straw with charter. im done.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 24, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't get all Tango on this

but I think Tony saw Duncan’s line vs. Penny.

4 for 7 with a HR and 2BB

by enoscountry on May 24, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

which is the most Tony like thing to consider. He does like those small sample size matchups

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Showed Tony in the dugout

looks a little stressed. Like his lineup might be talked about just a little…....

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 24, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I don't know if I said it last night

but I feel guilty watching the video on a game Vin Scully announces.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on May 24, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply actions  

Ah

That makes sense. I did find myself walking around more last night because I could follow the game so well listening to him. It must be a pleasure being a Dodgers fan.

by six on May 24, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lohse is over throwing

that ain’t good….......

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 24, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply actions  

iz2 prob gets to that one

he has shown the glove so far this year

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

he's tied #1 in all of baseball in RZR with Escobar

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 24, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

martin's hit should be an error

on larussa for playing miles at short

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on May 24, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

now that's funny

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on May 24, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 24, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

inquiring minds

want to know if martin’s hit would not have been a double play with iz2 at short?

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on May 24, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

i really doubt it

even one would have been tough, but possible

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on May 24, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm glad that wellsie gets a start in Dodger stadium tomorrow

Good way to keep those FB from hurting him

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on May 24, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions  

That one was generous

Hopefully, Lohse can keep getting those

That said, the Cubs do deserve my pity, but never my support.

by Solanus on May 24, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Another one

For the strikeout of Loney

That said, the Cubs do deserve my pity, but never my support.

by Solanus on May 24, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Put 'im away, Kyle

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on May 24, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice K

Way to get out of the jam

by stl tyler on May 24, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

that last pitch by loshe

was on the money

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

wish i could have seen it.

stupid charter.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 24, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

identical to strike two

and even if he puts bat on that ball, a foul is the best result, probably

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on May 24, 2008 10:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since Kent was just up to bat

I haven’t heard much about him the last few years. Is he still considered a clubhouse cancer like he was in San Fran with Bonds?

by kblakestl on May 24, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Horton seems to think so

n/t

That said, the Cubs do deserve my pity, but never my support.

by Solanus on May 24, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

the breaking pitch and the change up saved him

thats because he is forced to stay on his backside and not over throw. those calls came from the dugout for that very purpose…....

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 24, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright

Rick and Santa. It’s all on you two. Coz’ we all know the Mickey Mouse Club isn’t doing anything behind you tonight

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 10:31 PM EDT reply actions  

damn

rick couldnt of dodged that if he wanted to

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

if you're going to get hit...

I think I’d prefer to get hit there

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on May 24, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

i prefer it on the jersey

that hurts the least

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know this has been beaten to death already...

but good lord, just what does Ludwick need to do to be the full time starter? He’s leading the team in pretty much every offensive category, despite a lot less playing time than Pujols. He’s pretty much been the offense on the road trip. At this point, I’d almost rather see Pujols sit instead of Ludwick.

I am a big Duncan fan, but even if Duncan starts getting going, he’s not going to give you anything that Ludwick hasn’t been providing.

If you have to play Duncan, then bench Skip. Skip doesn’t hit well enough for a corner outfielder, anyway.

Start Ludwick

by DiscoJer on May 24, 2008 10:33 PM EDT reply actions  

ahem

“Skip happens to be a typical lead off hitter. Duncan is my go to boy against RHP. I manage, you watch.”
- Love, Tony

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correction

“I manage, you pull your hair out.”

by stl tyler on May 24, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol, indeed

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed, but

if dunc and skip don’t play and show well we’ll never get rid of either—-and we need one more bat somehow (i still say uggla would do it and can be had for some of our more or less spare parts).

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on May 24, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd love to get Uggla

It’d take more than spare parts. I’d still make a deal for him as long as Rasmus and Garcia are off limits. Something like Anderson and Reyes/Thompson would be fine.

Assuming that doesn’t pan out, a guy like Ronnie Belliard or Good Ol’ Grudz could be had for a song; what are we waiting for exactly?

by stl tyler on May 24, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

grudz

What a boost that would be for the team. The Royals are looking pretty lousy right now, too.

by kblakestl on May 24, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

total eclipse

of planet larussa

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on May 24, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glaus' out

for those watching, how deep was that? it showed on the track on GDay

by StLHugo on May 24, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Miles is just full of grit tonight

Maybe that’s what is slowing him down on defense & the basepaths

That said, the Cubs do deserve my pity, but never my support.

by Solanus on May 24, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Strike 'em out, throw 'em out

By the Pirates against the Cubs, headed to the bottom of the 12th

by stl tyler on May 24, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

I think I found our new 2B

Check out Miles line when he plays 2B, Holy Smokes!!!

.412/.452/.456/.908

by FlimtotheFlam on May 24, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Miles shouldn't play SS

That was one awkward looking double play.

by stl tyler on May 24, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

This is a Steinbrenner lineup tonite ...

as in, if I owned this team I’d be going all Steinbrenner on TLR and my GM right now. It’s damn near a firing offense.

by MdRedbirdFreak on May 24, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

I’d say twice

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

0-1 so far

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 10:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

0-2

I’m a sucker for being hopeful

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Okay if you HAVE to play AK

why not back him 2nd, and have Duncan hit sixth, and Miles 9th?? Geez we have no pop after Santa in this lineup

by gocards62 on May 24, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh it can never be said too much.

CHATER SUCKS/BLOWS/BITES/ WHATEVER YOU WANT TO SAY HERE.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 24, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

are these charter flights

i dont know, ive only flown 3 times

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

charter communications.

cable company in stl. that sucks.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 24, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

ah, thanks

and im sorry

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

geez

juno ends, then i get a double whammy. charter sucks, and so i can’t get the game, then my laptop blows and can’t get to VEB.

how’s the game going?

by stlcardinalsfang on May 24, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

0-0 top 3

nothing major has happened yet

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

unadventurous

but with this lineup, that’s a good thing…

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

speaking of the Hyatt Riverfront

now that was a great place to stay. I had my doubts, the reviews of the old Adams Mark were a bit frightening

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on May 24, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

OKAY THAT'S ENOUGH!

I’ve been looking forward to this west coast road trip all year because I need a tan and I was sure that VEB could not reach this far across the country. But NO! You guys are relentless. You win.

We will put AK and Izturis on a slow boat to China. We will start Ryan and Hoffpair up the middle. Miles will play Rover. We will use Yadi on defense and Anderson on offense. We will trade Lil Dunc to AL DH land and I will personally take the punch in the nose from Dunc. We will play 4 outfielders at the same time – Ank/Schu/Luddy/Mather – (oh yeah, Joe Mather is the answer to our problems – give me a break!) We will call up Garcia, Kopp and Ottavino (though injured) to compete our hump-back rotation in spite of MLB rules. Hell, I’ll call up Amaury Marti to play whatever the hell you want. We will trade AR and use him in our starting rotation simultaneously. We’ll use a 37 man roster and sue Bud Selig. We win the World Series before he figures out how to deal with it.

I will magically repair the elbows and shoulders of all 27 of our injured pitchers. I will revoke the medical license of Paletta. I will force-feed TLR a steak and rib platter.

I will personally beat Corby Rasmut with a wet noodle. I will trade for the LA shortstop – whatever his name is – and the guy he’s blocking (whatever that means). ARE YOU HAPPY? How about Andruw Jones? You want him? Dare me. I got the checkbook. How about Davey Johnson as manager? Don’t push me.

ARE YOU HAPPY?

Haven’t you figured out that Hinkster is in fact me – Mo? Come one guys! Think about it. How would you like to work for DeWitt? I get all my ideas from you guys and you’re still not happy. So what if I’ve had too much to drink tonight – get off my case.

I can’t take the stress anymore. I could not find my way to Chavez Ravine. I’m going to find the masseuse in my Malibu weekend resort hotel.

NOW GET OFF MY CASE!

by Hinkster on May 24, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

Mr. Mozeliak, sir

can you please tell lil’ dunc to wipe the dip off of his chin?

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on May 24, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

uh

lboros

is there a recall button on this thing?

Mo

by Hinkster on May 24, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

4 pitch walks to kennedy

make me laugh

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

8 balls in a row

make me warm on the inside

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

"Leave your bat on your shoulder

We’ll get those numbers up son, what slump?”

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

heh

think Penny forgot AK was on first?

by lopey986 on May 24, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Duncan

Don’t pop out on the first pitch, please.

by six on May 24, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright Duncan

show that good batting eye of yours

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

sheesh

just be patient and let penny beat himself tonight.

by lopey986 on May 24, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

gameday is off then

not even close, brad penny is laboring out there tonight.

by lopey986 on May 24, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

dunc came through

leads are pretty

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by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

F*^^&*

He shouldn’t even be in this line up!

by Evilfrog on May 24, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

here comes a hanger

Penny has been throwing the ball very low the entire inning, he is about to throw on up for Pujols to jack.

by lopey986 on May 24, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

love it!

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on May 24, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

albert agressive baserunning works this time

at second

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 10:54 PM EDT reply actions  

Hahaha

No one was covering 2nd

by stl tyler on May 24, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

jeez

was that a replay of the duncan hit?

by lopey986 on May 24, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

when it rains…

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by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

this inning

sums up the ‘08 cardinals…no power but we can hit a lot of singles and doubles in a row.

by lopey986 on May 24, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

no power?

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on May 24, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

roy hobbs does it again!

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on May 24, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

all on the same pitch

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 24, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

gahhh

way to kill the rally Glaus.

by lopey986 on May 24, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

4 runs

means the rally was 72 year old, it was its time

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glaus's stats the past 10 games

.439/.511/.610/1.121 I’ll forgive a few groundouts

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

now

i can go play MLB 2k8 with a little peace of mind. see ya later boys.

by lopey986 on May 24, 2008 10:57 PM EDT reply actions  

you on xbox live/

what is your gamertag?

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 24, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

while watching the hapless Pirates

on TV…unable to put away the Cubs.. I’m checking the Cards’ game on Gameday/MLB.
WHOA! It’s been a while.
So as not to break up this game thread, I would appreciate a kind e-mail from someone (down the road even) explaining to me what the auxiliary info that is flashed about pitches, on Gameday, all means. Especially “pFX”—what is that? And how do they get this stuff? Is is subjective, mechanical (ie some kind of elaborate JUGS gun)?

If I understand what it is telling me, I might start to like it

by the Tewk on May 24, 2008 11:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Cameras

Lots of high speed cameras in the parks now, measure break of a pitch, speed at release and at the plate, pFX is pitch FX which is basically a measure of the movement on a pitch, I don’t have everything figured out yet, but it is nice for those that track pitches to be able to see “how good is Waino’s Curve” type things

by StLHugo on May 24, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

http://gameday.mlblogs.com/

ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?

by Smokin Turkeys on May 24, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have always wondered too

I just never looked it up before

ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?

by Smokin Turkeys on May 24, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

my bad

shouldnt have used it as a title

ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?

by Smokin Turkeys on May 24, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

and that is why i love yadi

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on May 24, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

cash money molina

go home

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

sorry JP

you just just got Yadied.

I have a love/hate relationship with the Cardinals' middle relief corps.

by madding on May 24, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Yadilicious

Best way to end an inning.

by six on May 24, 2008 11:07 PM EDT reply actions  

ammo

pirate ship about out of ammo, need to splash the baby bears now!

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on May 24, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

yes.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 24, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Its working here in west tenn

ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?

by Smokin Turkeys on May 24, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stop riling up dangpenguins

n/t

That said, the Cubs do deserve my pity, but never my support.

by Solanus on May 24, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I know, I was being silly

I should have replaced “n/t” with “jk”

That said, the Cubs do deserve my pity, but never my support.

by Solanus on May 24, 2008 11:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

He just got horrible swings from Molina and Lohse, one was above Molina’s head and the other was basically a ball in the dirt away

by StLHugo on May 24, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

eh, against that order

I could strike out Miles, at least. We’ll see how he goes through the heart before he finds his stuff.

Rasmus or bust.

by Zoop on May 24, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

fyi

cubs are 8 games over .500 in the central and 8 over against the pirates. parrot needs to get with it tonite!

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on May 24, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

yep, for sure a catchable

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on May 24, 2008 11:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cubs have one reliver left

That game needs to go another five or six innings.

by stl tyler on May 24, 2008 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

i hope it ends

10 min after a card win

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

freebie?

cubs are trying to give it away, but can the bucs take it? watching their first team is bad enough, but watching their 3rd team stumble though extra innings is truly painful—must be awful for real pirate fans.

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on May 24, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

cubs lose!

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on May 24, 2008 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

arghhhhhhhhhh

pirates win!!

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on May 24, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Ohh wow, just checked out gameday

Can someone tell me why Ludwick is on the bench?

by TheBirds on May 24, 2008 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Or Miles at SS?

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 24, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or Kennedy on the Cardinals?

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 24, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Someone needs to tell tony

Duncan stinks, Luddy is actually a better hitter against righties, and his stats would be even better if TLR didn’t try to spoonfeed Duncan. And it’s not even working.

Duncan wouldn’t hit 200 playing every day.

by TheBirds on May 24, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

kennedy @ cards

I just looked at AKs stats over the years. While he played fairly well for the Angels he has always sucked for the Cards. His 99 Cards stats look like his 07 and 08 Cards stats. I’m ready to chip in for the crowbar to pry him out of the lineup.

by sbentley on May 24, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

scrabble

tlr was using his scrabble board to make out the lineup (again) and just didn’t have the right letters for ludwick

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on May 24, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

he was going for the triple word score

that really limits the options

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

there is the range we know and love from pujols

atta kid

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 24, 2008 11:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Hu's walk up music: "Who are you?"

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on May 24, 2008 11:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Are you pulling a "Who's on First" with me?

It’s by the Who

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on May 24, 2008 11:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

overflow is up

with a warning.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 24, 2008 11:39 PM EDT reply actions  

What happened to playing the hot hand

Skip goes 4-4 benched the next day and Luddy has basically been our offense in may and he’s benched.

For the sake of outfield defense, can tony please just try a Skip, Ank, Ludwick outfield at least once.

by TheBirds on May 24, 2008 11:41 PM EDT reply actions  

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