300 blows
short post today; i’ave got another busy travel week, and another early a.m. departure (behind the wheel this time). for those of you who went to bed at a decent hour, the cardinals won 8-2 last night behind 4 home runs --- 2 by pujols, 1 by ludwick, and 1 by (who else?) cesar izturis. that’s right, iz2 went yard at petco --- a powerful 335-foot clout that sheared open a new hole in the ozone layer. it’s the first 4-homer game by a visiting team at petco since . . . . (processing) . . . . . aw, since not that long ago. the astros whacked 4 over the wall at petco in the second game of this season --- and one of them was a game-winning 3-run job by lance berkman. but prior to that it hadn’t been done since july 2006.
albert’s 2 homers were nos. 292 and 293 in his career; he ought to reach 300 sometime next month. when he does he’ll become only the 2d player to hit 300 hrs in a cardinal uniform, joining that guy they held a day for in busch 3 on sunday. and he’ll become only the 4th player who broke in with the cardinals to reach 300 career home runs, joining The Man and which two other players? and to make it a little more challenging: when albert gets to 300, he’ll become the 117th man to reach that threshold. 17 of those players (including pujols) hit at least one home run for the cardinals. can you name all 17?
izturis’s homer, for those who are wondering, was no. 12 of his career. . . .
ludwick now has 8 homers in may. anybody know what the frachise record for homers in may is? i’ve spent 10 minutes looking for it and can’t come up w/ a definitive answer. the probable answer is mark mcgwire 1998 ---- 16 may homers, en route to 70 for the season. big mac also hit 13 in may 2000; pujols hit 11 in may 2006. the latter would be a good target for ludwick. . . . he’s now tied w/ berkman and soriano for 3d place in homers this month; dan uggla has 9, and ryan braun has 10.
i’m outta time, i gotta run. right before the series i exchanged e-mails with geoff young, one of the very best baseball bloggers in the country, who writes at Ducksnorts; i spaced out putting up a link yesterday, so here it is now, my answers to his questions (which included a vincent price shout-out). and here are geoff’s answers to my questions about the padres:
1. Is the San Diego offense really this bad? What glimmer(s) of hope do you see that suggest they might start scoring some runs?
Well, it shouldn't be this bad, but I'm starting to think it might be. Everyone except Adrian Gonzalez and Brian Giles is hitting well below career norms. Josh Bard and Khalil Greene have seen their offensive games go into the tank for no obvious reason; Kevin Kouzmanoff is finding his second trip around the league a little more difficult; Scott Hairston has forgotten the difference between balls and strikes; and of course, the Jim Edmonds experiment turned out to be a disaster. The glimmer of hope, I guess, is a belief in regression to the mean. I can't accept that Bard and Greene, who are (or should be) in their primes, are this bad. I don't see any reason for Greene to hit like Jeff Blauser or Jay Bell at age 27 and Rey Ordonez at age 28. There's just no room for that in my view of the way things work in this world.
2. Did the front office blow it this off-season? What personnel moves could / should they have made?
Yes and no. I don't think anyone could have seen Bard and Greene's poor performance coming. And I still think bringing on Edmonds was a reasonable gamble. That said, it's a gamble that had a pretty good chance of not paying dividends, which means a contingency plan should have been in place. When the Padres finally cut bait on Edmonds, the backup plan was... Jody Gerut, a non-roster invitee who hadn't seen big-league action in more than two years. Gerut's actually done a good job since taking over in center, but the "plan" of falling back on him when Edmonds failed isn't befitting a team that fancies itself a contender. Beyond that, the club's infatuation with Glendon Rusch baffled me, as did its failure to procure a legitimate fifth starter (e.g., Livan Hernandez) despite the second-half meltdown of incumbent Justin Germano. How do you defend Shawn Estes in your rotation? I don't think you can.
3. To what extent do you attribute the early-season sluggishness to a hangover effect from the final weekend of last season?
Not at all, unless you consider the fact that Milton Bradley and Mike Cameron are no longer Padres part of that hangover effect. Even then, Bradley can barely play the field because of his knee and Cameron missed the first month of the season while sitting out a suspension, so I'm not sure how much of a difference they would have made.
4. Any help on the horizon at Triple A? There are some guys down there that can play, though I'm not sure how much of an immediate impact any of them will make. It's not like we've got Ryan Braun stashed away somewhere. Chase Headley is the big prospect, and he's been playing very well lately while learning the outfield. I imagine we'll probably see him up after the All-Star break, if not sooner. Brian Myrow can hit big-league pitching right now but he's 31 years old and defensively limited. The pitching at Portland has been dreadful. We might see Dirk Hayhurst (of Baseball America's "Non-Prospect Diary" fame) up at some point, but that's about it.
5. If the Pads become sellers at the trade deadline, will they be marketing anybody the Cardinals might want?
This is pure speculation on my part, but maybe Tadahito Iguchi or one of the veteran starters -- Randy Wolf or Greg Maddux? I could see Tony Clark becoming available if you're looking for a guy who can run into one every now and then. Honestly, though, I don't know that any team should pay much for these guys. With the possible exception of Maddux, none of them is a real difference maker. (Yes, I'm the world's worst salesman; thanks for noticing.)
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My guess
I think it’s more fun to try a list like this without looking up any stats to check, so here is my try. I’m not even sure if all these guys got to 300.
Jim Edmonds
Jack Clark
Pedro Guerrero
Bobby Bonds
Roger Maris
Orlando Cepeda
Mark McGwire
Ted Simmons
Johnny Mize
Joe Medwick
Rogers Hornsby
Reggie Smith
Will Clark
Larry Walker
by Youneverknow on May 20, 2008 8:42 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Assuming . . .
Musial and Pujols are 15 and 16.
by Youneverknow on May 20, 2008 8:44 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't believe maris is one
i’ll have to check for sure
"Textbooks are Soviet propaganda" - Rev. Jerry Falwell
by elirock83 on May 20, 2008 8:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
maris isn't
275 HR
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
by BigMOman on May 20, 2008 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The other 2
who broke in w/ the Cards and have 300 HR’s—Mize and Medwick.
by chuckb on May 20, 2008 9:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Medwick only has 205 career hr
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
by BigMOman on May 20, 2008 9:41 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Check out Jimmy
He’s still got a few catches left him him.
http://chicago.cubs.mlb.com/media/video.jsp?mid=200805192732003
by sdrone on May 20, 2008 9:24 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
beautiful catch
But isn’t it great to have a CF like Roy that can make great catches AND hit the baseball?
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
by BigMOman on May 20, 2008 9:43 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think
every time Jimmy makes a catch like that in a Cubbie uniform an angel loses its wings.
by spencegrif on May 20, 2008 10:28 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
...brad thompson kicks a puppy.
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on May 20, 2008 11:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
great catch
was watching the video. hmmm….something not right…what is it…oh right, wrong color hat.
by davethebutcher on May 20, 2008 10:26 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
JEd lives
Another Enron/Minute Maid heartbreaker! I almost cheered for a cub there!
by baked mcbride on May 20, 2008 10:32 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
big discussion
on JED at bleedcubbieblue.com…
by UNCDubya on May 20, 2008 12:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
if by good discussion
you mean arguing whether or not Reed Johnson’s catch or Jim Edmonds’s catch last night was the better one….man, I’m glad I don’t rely on that blog for intelligent discussion.
by eglasier on May 20, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it looks like he said "big"
not good.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 20, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I stand corrected
on the first statement…still standing by the second
by eglasier on May 20, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
thank you
but yeah, lengthy discussion is what i meant…what surprised me was Al’s take on JED, at least defensively anyway…JED has defensive range greater than most and Al seems to completely ignore that fact, thought it was odd. i guess he is just a big proponent of pie’.
by UNCDubya on May 20, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i couldnt stand to read it
it instantly went into jokes about Greek Gods…
then nitpicking over what is and isnt a Greek God.
I could hardly get past that
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by jealousblues on May 20, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I found Al's opening to the thread
somewhat funny. They won 9 out of 11 games, very true. But to compare the 2008 Cubs to some of the best Cubs teams over the last 50 years is funny. The Cubs are 28-17, but are 8-1 vs the Pirates. Basically, vs the rest of the league, they are 20 – 16. They’ve also played 27 home games and only 18 road games.
If people want to be skeptical of the Cardinals based on schedule, the Cubs are just as dubious. The one nice feather in their cap is their sweep of Arizona.
by Hardcore Legend on May 20, 2008 5:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
16
1 j. edmonds
2 jack clark
3andres gallaraga (the big fat)
4bobby bonds
5o. cepeda
6.mc gwire
7 mize
8 medwick
9 reggie smith
10 larry walker
11 hornsby
12 reggie sanders
13 tino martinez
14 gary gaetti
15 musial
16 pujols
"Textbooks are Soviet propaganda" - Rev. Jerry Falwell
by elirock83 on May 20, 2008 9:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
almost bigger
simmons, will clark, bobby bonilla, eric davis, guerro, and more i can’t think of were knockin on the door of 300
"Textbooks are Soviet propaganda" - Rev. Jerry Falwell
by elirock83 on May 20, 2008 9:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
gary gaetti
does any one remeber why they released him in 1998? He was having an ok year for an ok team. I was rackin my brain and don’t remember it. ONly reason why i thought of him was the cubs fans comparing edmonds to him
"Textbooks are Soviet propaganda" - Rev. Jerry Falwell
by elirock83 on May 20, 2008 10:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I can only find 16....
Mark McGwire – 583
Stan Musial – 475
Andres Gallaraga – 399
Larry Walker – 383
Orlando Cepeda – 379
Jim Edmonds – 363
Gary Gaetti – 360
Johnny Mize – 359
Dick Allen – 351
Jack Clark – 340
Tino Martinez – 339
Bobby Bonds – 332
Ron Gant – 321
Reggie Smith – 314
Reggie Sanders – 305
Rogers Hornsby – 301
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
by BigMOman on May 20, 2008 9:39 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
...went back and read question again.
This is the complete list. [/idiot]
"Give a man a fire, and he’ll be warm for a night. Set him on fire and he’ll be warm for the rest of his life."
by BigMOman on May 20, 2008 9:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
There but for the grace of god
It’s going to be a looong season for the Padres bloggers. I think I’m already seeing a little bitterness in the questions he asked Larry. One guy we kind of fantasized about for center field over the winter (before you dumped Jim Edmonds on us) was Brian Barton. Considering how many candidates we have for the outfield that has to burn.
The one that gave me a chuckle was Ryan Ludwick? Todd Wellemeyer? Seriously, how do you guys do that? I love the conception around the league, right or wrong, that the Cards always turns castoffs from other teams into average or above average big leaguers. When you sign as many reclamation projects as we do some are bound to work out. I guess when your retreads are Mark Prior and Jimmy Cubmonds it does seem like we do have the midas touch.
"Do what you want to the women and children but leave me alone"- George Carlin
by That's a Winner on May 20, 2008 10:10 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If they're looking to dump Iguchi
I think Mo would be happy to introduce them to one of our surplus outfielders
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on May 20, 2008 10:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
cancel that
he looks as bad this year as what we have, offensively
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
by Valatan on May 20, 2008 10:39 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
all it takes for Tadahito!
is a trade… remember what he did last year for the phils in a winning environment after struggling with the white sox.
go cards, o's, and phillies.
...boiler up.
by moboiler on May 20, 2008 10:58 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Negative Valatan. The pattern is full.
:-)
I was thinking the same thing about Durham…but there is a good chance he is nothing more than Jeter at 2B only minus the bat.
by Harknights on May 20, 2008 10:59 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What are Iguchi's splits?
Don’t forget he is trapped in Petco.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
by Eckstreem on May 20, 2008 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK, forget that.
Home San Diego Padres 19 73 11 20 5 0 1 3 28 12 14 4 0 .376 .384 .274
Away San Diego Padres 25 101 10 26 3 1 1 13 34 6 21 2 0 .299 .337 .257
He’s actually better in Petco. He also is hitting lefties to the tune of .164 BA. I don’t think we need another bat in our lineup that can’t hit lefties.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
by Eckstreem on May 20, 2008 11:21 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Coincidence
once again, it is by pure happenstance that the Cardinals medical staff examines a player, declares them healthy enough for game activities (no surgery will be required) and not a week later, they are back on the DL.
If I’m Rick Ankiel, I’m getting a second opinion.
by Hardcore Legend on May 20, 2008 12:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I'm wondering
if the medical staff is accountable directly to ownership or is under the GM’s authority. I’ve worked on the assumption that the trainers report to the GM, but the team doctors don’t.
by random on May 20, 2008 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i believe it was the cards medical staff
who originally said “to the DL, go!” TLR wanted a second opinion and that dude told him what he wanted to hear.
I’m not seeing anything about Ankiel to the DL though- where are you seeing that?
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
by SleepyCA on May 20, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm talking about Mulder
Mulder was told that it was just shoulder fatigue and was told to go back to pitching. Now it is ‘capsular irritation’, which seems like something a lot of our players have had.
It is just irritating that anytime a player is injured, the primary diagnosis is always ‘less’ than the actual ailment.
by Hardcore Legend on May 20, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
especially in the last 2 yrs
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on May 20, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Muldur won't be returning to the rotation
I believe that they are stalling, using the DL to time a recovery scenario that puts him in an advantages trade situation at the break. If they can’t get a taker, they may try him in the Pen. Why not…......... I think the Barton experiment will come to an end before too long. If this team is in contention next month, they must bring in a professional hitter. I love to see the Cards feed, like last night, but be honest, we need someone that can hit a damn sacrifice fly or lay down a bunt, or hit a single in a timely fashion. Spare me the sky high optimism when we are playing teams on a suicide watch. I think Iguchi, regardless of his numbers this year, would improve this team batting second and playing second.
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 20, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think Mulder is done as a Cardinal
As for Barton, I look at him as the “Ryan” of 2008…. full of energy and some mistakes, but always fun to watch. I think the Cards will hold on to him all year. Think a chin strap for his helmut will be mandatory soon.
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on May 20, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Barton Experiment?
Shouldn’t we give up on one of our AAAA OF before we give up on a rookie?
by Hardcore Legend on May 20, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Which OF do you consider AAAA?
by Hal Lanier's Pants on May 20, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Dunc
Last year Duncan wasn’t considered AAAA and I don’t think he is one this year either. On an AL team he would be a full time player IMO. His problem is both being a left hander under TLR and being a poor out fielder. I do agree that while Skip hasn’t been given much of a chance to be more then a AAAA player that is his current profile.
by StLHugo on May 20, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Come on, Duncan? AAAA?
how many guys who hit 43 homers in their first season and a half are languishing in the minors? He’d be on the 25-man on any of the 30 teams.
by tom s. on May 20, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Until he recovers from his injury fully
meaning returns to pre-injury form, I’m not so sure. What Chris Duncan was in the first half of the season last year was an All-Star caliber player. Will he ever be that again?
by Hardcore Legend on May 20, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's got a 870 OPS against RHP
Going into tonight, against RHP he’s 289/404/467/870 (and it’s 180 OPS against LHP in 17 PAs). His career OPS against RHP is 933. It’s hardly like he’s fallen off the cliff—but it would be good if he got the power stroke going a little more.
Dave
by SydneyDave on May 20, 2008 11:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Q: What's wrong with Barton
A: He hasn’t played about AA. He is a player that can have a very, very good future. Unfurtunely we can’t send him to AAA. But Management believes he is good enough help the team out. And he played his way onto the roster in spring training. TLR has limited his playing time. It’s hard to get someone like that ABs. But he has done fairly well in that spot. Snice we are so deep in Outfield right now it doesn’t hurt if our 5th out fielder is hitting slightly below league average.
I see no reason to call it a day.
by Evilfrog on May 20, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barton is a nice kid
if you are in a multi-year rebuilding phase. Rule -five players are a speculation. I remember Santana was a rule five player for the twins. This team needs to have a quality player now if they find them selfs in contention. They could be if they make some moves. This concept of platooning is to hide the many incomplete ball players we have…....Duncan…Ankiel, who will be a super star if allowed to develop without being throw over his head, (cleanup)...Kennedy is a relic, up and down, can’t even get down a sac bunt when the pitcher is giving it up!!!!!! Two young infielders….....You guys have affection and loyalty to some of these Projects,but don’t forget what your shared perception was 4 days ago. The pitching won’t hold up this team much longer…......... I predict Barton will be gone as soon as they start noticing hot dog sale going down…replaced by fan favorite Rasmus…...... Akiel out of the line hasn’t been that bad, in the last three games…..he was leaving to many on. How about a back up catcher that can pinch hit???
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 20, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good news!
We are in a rebuilding year!
What shared preception? Im was completely ok with going .500 on the road and losing our second series of the year at busch to a team that came in 6 of 7.
by Evilfrog on May 20, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
We don't need to be in contention
we need to be rebuilding.
Our OF isn’t getting any younger (both Ludwick and Ankiel will be 29+). Chris Duncan has had a spectacular 3 year stretch at the plate, marred by injuries and poor OF defense. He’ll be 29 next season too. Same with Skippy.
Colby Rasmus is currently hitting .180 something in Memphis and has been benched the last few games because of his struggles. There is no way he is called up anytime soon.
Mozeliak should make moves to improve the team if he can by moving some of our replaceable somewhat older parts that might have value to some teams (Skippy, Duncan, Lohse) if it brings in some talent that can help this team for the next 5 years. Or, bring in some low risk, low cost guys to plug holes.
However, dumping Brian Barton would be beyond stupid. They haven’t even given him 100 MLB ABs. He has 67 ABs and seems to have the ability to get on base.
Dan Uggla is another Rule 5 selection. Look how things turned out for him.
by Hardcore Legend on May 20, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
They gave plenty of patience to Luna and I think
Barton has more upside than him. What about guys like Jrod who many clamored for after they sent him up and down. Lets at least ride this out for a bit and see what happens, he’s been playing a little more of late and regardless of who it was against last night looked better. with Ank hurting he’ll get more pt so maybe we can get a better read…
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on May 20, 2008 6:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good points
I personally don’t feel he is athletic enough, compared to the Uptons, Lewis for SF, Gomez of the Twins…..to name a few… Considering the Cubs recent move, man are they snake bit, signing Edmonds. That will come back to haunt them. They will probably be spending money at the break…....... After watching Iguchi last year step in and help the Phillies, I’m of the opinion that he is a fine technical player, as are most of the Japanese. This team can afford a player. They seem to be reluctant to back their own fast start. How many teams would love to be in our position….....My Griffey predictions are coming true I’ve noticed….......I must admit that I’m a conditional supporter of the Cards…....an athletic supporter I’m sure to many (:
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 20, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I hope you will admit
that Ludwigs strong showing against the Rays got Pujols a few pitches last night.
I like to watch Pujols play, get him the help he needs….....
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 20, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't think Brian Barton is athletic enough
to play the OF? Huh?
by Hardcore Legend on May 20, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Those are just observation
from my personnel experience, as a player and a coach. Tony isn’t taking him out for ” defensive purposes” for no reason. He has better range than most of his team mates,,,,,,,but thats not saying much. Mediocre arm by my estimation. Don’t see a big treat on the bases. He might develop, but he is not going to be a big contributer on this team as Ludwig evolves. .....This team needs a player. He is not yet.
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 20, 2008 7:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
His name is Ludwick
and he isn’t competing with Ludwick for playing time. He is competing with Duncan and Skippy, Skippy more so.
by Hardcore Legend on May 20, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
well there you have it, simple too many notes
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 20, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Tony takes people out all the time
so that he feels like he (as in Tony) has impacted the game. These defensive woes of Barton’s are overblown. Tony took Barton out in the flippin’ 4th inning in one game.
by azruavatar on May 20, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Also
the Phillies are a considerably younger team, at least with their core players. While Utley and Howard are older than Pujols, they are still a team with a solid 5 years ahead of them.
Bringing in someone like Iguchi didn’t cost them very much and they were able to do it because they had a roster spot free (Utley to the DL). They didn’t jetison a rookie just to make room for him.
by Hardcore Legend on May 20, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agree, i was just shocked
by how cheap iguchi was last year, in terms of talent. The Phillies didn’t really give anything up to get him, and he was a monster for a couple of weeks. I guess it was in large part a salary dump, but with Kennedy struggling the way he was last year I sure wished WJ had made that trade instead of Gillick.
Of course, then we might not have the #13 draft pick, so who knows…
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
by SleepyCA on May 20, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The guy is decent
if he could perform to his sox days, and he came cheap to the phils cause the sox were terrible last yr…Im failing to see though why they need him? You have AK, and Miles, and ryan who all can play 2b…even if IG is better u see them parting with one of them? Unless they send Ryan down
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on May 20, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kennedy has a .262(!!!) OPS over the last 2 weeks (39 PA's)
My point was that they needed him last year, not this year, but looking into it I’m not sure that they wouldn’t have a use for him this year too. He’s only on a 1-year contract, after all. Kennedy would have to be released, or DL’d, but he’s a sunk cost at this point.
(FWIW I also thought Kennedy had been better than he actually has been this year… the last two weeks have killed his rate stats).
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
by SleepyCA on May 20, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duncan, DOB 5/5/1981
Duncan turned 27 on 5/5. I can’t see how the math works where he will be 29 next year.
Tom S. has it right; Duncan would be on any of the 30 major league teams.
Dave
by SydneyDave on May 20, 2008 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My mistake
I went by baseball-references age, and saw he just had a birthday. I didn’t know they already accounted for his BDay.
I may have to go back and check the ages of all those other players now.
by Hardcore Legend on May 20, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Player ages on bbref.com
I think-repeat think-they use the players age as of July 1. Thus if a player was born on 6/30/1980, he’d be 28 in 2008, but if he was born 7/2/1980, he’d be 27.
Ludwick will be 30 this year, Ankiel 29, Skip 28, Duncan 27, and Barton 26.
Dave
by SydneyDave on May 20, 2008 11:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was thinking.....
A couple starts ago, you all will probably remember, Wainwright got called for going to his mouth on the mound. The result was a “Ball” to the batter (Prince Fielder I believe). When it happened, I got to thinking…...what’s to keep a pitcher from just going to his mouth 4 times to Intentionally walk a batter. I mean, every once in a blue moon, you see a wild pitch on an IBB, or a guy like Miggy Cabrera get a base hit on a pitch too close to the strike zone. Is there a rule against going to your mouth consecutive times, or is it just an “understood” rule…one of those things you don’t do?? Anybody have any thoughts?
Jim Edmonds in a Cub Uniform Makes Me Want to PUKE!!!
by FiedsinEvilleIN on May 20, 2008 1:07 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Interesting idea
But admit it: it’d feel pretty bush doing that.
by random on May 20, 2008 1:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And, of course,
Roy Hobbs DID get a hit on an attempted IBB :-)
by random on May 20, 2008 1:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When did this happen?
I believe you have Mr. Redford confused with Jackie Earl Haley.
by Hal Lanier's Pants on May 20, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Nope
It was in The Natural, too. I seem to remember a still shot of a newspaper photo. But Kelly Leak does rock.
by random on May 20, 2008 7:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wow
I just had to cue up the movie to see if you were right. Of course, you are. There it is, at about the 1:28 mark, a 2-3 second flash of a newspaper photo showing Hobbs reaching for a low and outside pitch with the headline saying something like “Hobbs Refuses to be Intentionally Passed.”
I commend your amazing movie recall.
by Hal Lanier's Pants on May 21, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I assume you mean with no one on
because otherwise, I believe everyone advances one base if the pitcher goes to his mouth.
by Hardcore Legend on May 20, 2008 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oh really???
I was thinking there was someone on when Wainer did it. After more recollection, I think it was against the Astros in his 276-pitch effort. I’m pretty sure he had just walked Berkman, and was pitching to Lee. But I could be wrong.
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by FiedsinEvilleIN on May 20, 2008 1:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe that is right
I just assumed it was like a balk.
by Hardcore Legend on May 20, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it has to be warm enough for one
the rule is not in place if the temperature is below 60 or something – the umpires decide before the game.
Second, the ump doesn’t have to call it right away. He can give the hitter a chance to hit it (or get a bad throw) and then only call it after the pitch. Rule 8.02 (a) 1 also says repeated violation is subject to fine.
by enoscountry on May 20, 2008 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Here's the rule
8.02 The pitcher shall not—
(a) (1) Bring his pitching hand in contact with his mouth or lips while in the 18 foot circle surrounding the pitching rubber. EXCEPTION: Provided it is agreed to by both managers, the umpire prior to the start of a game played in cold weather, may permit the pitcher to blow on his hand.
PENALTY: For violation of this part of this rule the umpires shall immediately call a ball. However, if the pitch is made and a batter reaches first base on a hit, an error, a hit batsman or otherwise, and no other runner is put out before advancing at least one base, the play shall proceed without reference to the violation. Repeated offenders shall be subject to a fine by the league president.
by random on May 20, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
OK
Well that clears that up. Basically, you can do it, but it’ll cost ya. Bottom line: Just throw the damn ball to the catcher 4 times, huh?
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by FiedsinEvilleIN on May 20, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Just out of curiosity
I know its only been a handful of games, but AP seems to be playing better post streak?
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on May 20, 2008 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i wouldn't read too much into that
albert will be albert, i don’t think he gets fazed or nervous by streaks or records.
by stlcardinalsfang on May 20, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I partly disagree
Albert may not get nervous – but he does care show he cares about records and stuff. Look at all those quotes toward the end of last year about how he wanted to get 100 runs and 100 BB for the season. Some blamed that drive for his penchant to run through stop signs.
He usually got on base so early in the game it should have freed him up for the rest of the game regardless (being a non-factor). But I wouldn’t be surprised if he’s willing now to take some greater chances on pitches early in games instead of wait out walks.
by enoscountry on May 20, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Cards haven't had a 4-game winning streak
since the first week of the season.
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on May 20, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Re:
It’s going to be a looong season for the Padres bloggers
A former flame of mine is a dyed in the wool Pads fan, and she has already given up on them this year. I didn’t have the heart to give her any crap after last night…
If everything seems to be going well, you have obviously overlooked something.
by cardsrul on May 20, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
This may be a dumb idea....
and i’m not very good at trade proposals, but what about Anthony Reyes for Michael Barrett? and then DFA Jason LaRue?
Barrett is on the DL with a right elbow strain though, and i’m not sure how serious it is.
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on May 20, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well for one......
our backup catcher could never throw out a baserunner.
by sdrone on May 20, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That doesn't bother me nearly as much as a backup catcher who can't hit over .150
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on May 20, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
How 'bout a backup catcher that is clubhouse poison?
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
by Eckstreem on May 20, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh, I suppose that could be bad, like I said, I'm not very good at trade proposals
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on May 20, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
But wouldn't Cubs-clubhouse-poison...
... have a POSITIVE effect on the Cards’ clubhouse?
by birdjam on May 20, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't believe in that crap
These are professionals…do you not do your job well at work because you hate Jerry in Accounting? Jeter and A-Rod HATE each other…and so did Zambrano and JEd
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by rocKStark5 on May 20, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Gonna have to disagree with you
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by stltrav09 on May 20, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
and even if they aren't
They play a game for a living.
by Evilfrog on May 20, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
So do Zambrano and Barrett
Remember Big Z fighting with his own catcher? Not all bad blood can just be swept away on the playing field, some caries over. If you pitchers don’t trust your catcher you have serious issues.
by StLHugo on May 20, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
speaking of
Zambrano was the guy who beat the shit out of MMA Micheal Barret last year in the dugout and clubhouse…thus forcing the trade of Barret.
I dont want this guy.
he also punched Aj Pierzenwhocanspellit?sky after a collision at the plate.
seriously, I dont want this guy
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by jealousblues on May 20, 2008 5:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't want michel barrett anywhere near the cards clubhouse
the guy is a jerk.
by stlcardinalsfang on May 20, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well...
I think Reyes would be a good fit for San Diego, as they apparently need starting pitching, and that park is good for fly ball pitchers. But I dunno what they have that the Cardinals would want. Not Barrett.
Start Ludwick
by DiscoJer on May 20, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lot of talk about Khalil Greene...
but I don’t really know how that would shake out.
by Phizzle on May 20, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
greene, at least, has upside
I thought he was signed to a long-term contract, but it looks like he was only signed through ‘09 at a reasonable price ($6.5M). We’d at least avoid an albatross contract with him.
The question is, how much would he cost?
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by SleepyCA on May 20, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Welly our #2?
so Welly wasn’t astounding but he was once again solid and refuses to give up a HR. Right now his numbers are as good as, if not better, than Waino’s.
I was just wondering where people expect Wellemeyer to rank within our current rotation at the end of the year, ignoring Carp’s probable return to #1. At first I had him as a gap-stop, wait until Mulder/Carp/Clement guy. But now it’s hard not to put him at #2. I can possibly see Pineiro improving, with Looper and Lohse staying put. But does anybody see Welly dropping below those last two?
by enoscountry on May 20, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Welly's definitely #2
unless Carp does come back.
by saladdays on May 20, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not to jack your proposed discussion
but has anyone heard anything lately on matt clement? he has seemed to just dissappear.
by stlcardinalsfang on May 20, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Carp's probable return to #1?
Where have you seen it as probable? Everything I’ve read has it as very uncertain, if he comes back at all…
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by Mr Redbird on May 20, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
If he comes back at all?
Is his career over?
If so, the Cardinals are screwed financially.
by Hardcore Legend on May 20, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I meant this season
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by Mr Redbird on May 20, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh that'd mean they'd pick up insurance money
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
by joker24 on May 20, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I don't think they insured his elbow
I can’t imagine that any insurance company in their right mind would have approved of that with the bone spurs already in there.
by Hardcore Legend on May 20, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm almost positive they did SPECIFICALLY insure the elbow
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
by joker24 on May 20, 2008 7:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ignore the issue
I don’t want to get in a “who to believe” discussion and all that. That’s why I wanted to ignore it. I just wanted to know where people saw Welly ranking by the end of the year.
by enoscountry on May 20, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wonder how
Padre fans feel watching Jimmy Edmond’s basket catch in light of Harrison’s butchery of Ludwig’s fly? New stat: – RTI – Runs Thrown In. An RTI will be awarded to any defensive player who either (errantly) throws a ball in such a manner that an opponent scores or to a defensive player who clunks a ball over the fence for a home run after swatting after it with his (lead) glove. Note: An RTI is not to be confused with a Run Thrown Up. An RTU is awarded to a defensive player who has a ball bounce off a part of his anatomy (other than his glove for a homerun. The first RTU was awarded to Jose (bingesonsyringes) Canseco when a ball struck his head before landing in the right field stands. Stat of the week – Jason La Rue: RBI – RTI = 0
by akaitori on May 20, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The fan hit his glove
that’s a tough play with interference.
by Hardcore Legend on May 20, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
yup
i believe the fan knocked his glove closed? that’s what it looked like to me
by mattybobo on May 20, 2008 4:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
not only that
it looked like he pulled into the stands (though it may have been just a bounce).
I was watching it at ozzies with my band, and I saw it…and couldnt believe it.
though it made more sense ofter the slo mo replay.
speaking of, we picked a good time to stop by there before the gig, saw then end of the no hitter, then the HR, then Edmonds catch.
Interesting he didnt slam his glove down and yell like a baby at the fan.
Mr Alou is such a douchebag.
and speaking of Bartman, the best part was like five other guys reached for the ball and missed…
then when they were looking for Bartman to throw him out, the same idiots were pointing…”he, did it! get em!”
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by jealousblues on May 20, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i don't think the pulling back in mattered
once it hit the top of the wall, over the yellow line, it was a home run. After that it was just a question of who gets the souvenir.
After watching the replay a number of times, though, I do think the fan hit the players glove.
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by SleepyCA on May 20, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I think that's a sign of how things are going for the Pads
That fan interfered, and the SD outfielder (Gerut? Hairston?) didn’t even try to protest. It was like he knew he’d be delaying the end of the game and he thought the whole game was a big waste of his time.
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by Mr Redbird on May 20, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who is
Harrison?
I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.
by _pistol_ on May 20, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love me some ryan ludwig(ck)
he is the reason behind my picture deally thing.
* sarcasm might be involved in this comment
by mattyfrommo on May 20, 2008 6:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
San Diego talk radio was all over this morning
They are very down about their team including the outfield. They were saying, I bet Edmonds hits a grand slam tonight.
They were appropriately worked up.
by OCCardsFan on May 20, 2008 5:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd imange so
much like our talk radio last year. It just plan sucks when your team falls hard. But the season is still early.
by Evilfrog on May 20, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
another late one coming tonight
is there any basketball on tonight to sneak into the thread?
by stlcardinalsfang on May 20, 2008 5:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Isn't Celtics vs Pistons tonight
if you are looking to get a good nap in.
by Hardcore Legend on May 20, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
haltime prediction
45-38 celts maybe thats too high
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on May 20, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That crazy Julian Traverez might really be crazy, but he's also a decent guy......
MLB traderumors reports that he has agreed to accept a minor league assignment instead of go straight to free agency so the Sox can have a few more days to try and work a trade. I was surprised to hear that…...he would have no trouble working out a deal on his own IMO.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on May 20, 2008 6:42 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
pretty sweet
not often do you hear of stuff like this, im still bitter about the hand incident though..not really but til they won in 06 i was
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on May 20, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was a stupid thing to do. But he had no emotional control over his reaction to a bad outing.
He appears to have learned a lesson. Many bad outings (scatterd amongst many good ones for the Sox) and no more hand breaking incidents.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on May 20, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Glaus is heating up
Since May 11th, he’s batting .411 / .548 / .647 / 1.195. Some more HR’s would be the icing on the cake. It’s nice to have a few threats after Pujols in the lineup with Ludwick and Glaus red hot.
Also, El Pineiro vs. Maddux tonight. Maddux is really lovin’ PetCo this year. Opponents are only batting .181 against him and have managed only 3 ER in San Diego. His home ERA is 1.42 over 3 games while his road ERA is 5.35 over 6 games. PetCo has made his overall ERA a respectable 3.98 this young season. Hopefully the park has a similar effect on El Pineiro’s effectiveness.
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