Game 46 overflow
by lboros on May 18, 2008 4:01 PM EDT
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Printi think musial is loosening up in the clubhouse, swinging a bat . . . . cards trail it 3-0 in the 6th.
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i thought
they said he could PH, i might be wrong.
I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!
by dangpenguins on May 18, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
crab man
awesome. hes also the office depot guy.
I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!
by dangpenguins on May 18, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont think it's a bad idea
he would’ve been fast enough to possibly beat it out, and even if he does get thrown out, he advances the runners out of DP possibility and into scoring position
boo cubs, hooray beer
Interesting...
... that they decided against the DL for Rick, yet don’t PH him here against a right-hander with two men on. Apparently, it’s a case of mind over Mather.
if they play him they cant retro his 15 day DL
should his shoulder be worse than they are saying. and nothing like that ever happens to cards players right?
Another walk would be nice
The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.
Barton needs to go down to AAA
damn these Rule 5 rules, Joe Mather would do us much more good
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He does kind of look like a minor league player
Playing everyday somewhere would help him.
by mikeonthecards on May 18, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
I think his OBP is higher
when he doesn’t swing
Where's birdman to tell me that Barton doesn't deserve to be in MLB?
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Haha
They’re making Iz2 hit from the right side. If we can see he sucks from the left side, why can’t they?
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A clutch hit from Skip...
coming soon
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I called it
The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.
Skip
Get off the schneid
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He kept swining
and eventually the pitcher hit the bat
In play, run(s)
Is the best thing to ever seen on Gameday
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I thought of that after I posted
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i was thinking the same thing
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on May 18, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions
Definitely
Don’t ever take the bat off the shoulder
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I say we bat around
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Miles
500+ footer absolutely crushed
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 18, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions
Has a Tampa pitcher thrown a strike this inning?
The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.
Miles should have let that 3rd pitch hit him
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Alright Albert
bring the pain big man
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COME ON ALBERT
Please do this
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good lord that was weak
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FUCKING SHIT
11 LOB in 6 innings
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Whatever our total at the end of this game is
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+1
I hate having my entire day ruined by this crap. Hopefully running some errands will set me up for a pleasant surprise when I return.
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by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 18, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions
yea, but Albert is the superstar, he is supposed to hit the homerun with people on when it matters
and that just hasn’t happened at all this year.
boo cubs, hooray beer
true... but somebody's gotta pick him up every once in a while too
the whole lineup is just struggling
and yet the hitting coach's job remains in tact, even though it's the second straight year they've had the same problems
boo cubs, hooray beer
Miles gets the sacrafice fly pitch
he wasn’t even thinking about scoring a run. Situational hitting on this team is the worst in baseball….......fire the hitting coach…...period
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 18, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions
I'm telling ya
they need to start putting men on base when they take batting practice…get them use to having to hit with men on…..they should at least try it
early in the year I marveled at the resilience of this team
they always seemed to fight back. they need that attitude back
unfortunately, there comes a time when a lack of talent trumps heart and determination
boo cubs, hooray beer
At least they are fighting to put men on base
thats better than last year
Albert has got to be frustrated
3 for 3 before that at bat and when it really counts he has a terrible at bat
Losing is a disease
6 of their 9 hits are doubles
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wheller in again?
thanks DRays.
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first pitch too
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on May 18, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions
ON FRICKEN FIRE!!
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 18, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Maddon must have gone to the TLR school of managing
Send Wheeler out there to face the same guy he gave up a HR to yesterday…
Good thinking
Boy, Ludwick sure loves hitting against Wheeler
2 days in a row
by cloistermaximus on May 18, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions
2 pitches
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keep up the home run tear
Ludwick
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 18, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions
Ludwick
Oh my God.
Of course, I have to be devil’s advocate here, but couldn’t he have done that earlie when there were runners on base?
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Just tuning into the game after getting back from work....
int time to see studwick come through here.
How did Lohse look today?
Not good
But 3 R (2 ER) in 6 IP is pretty good…QS
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he is begining to worry me
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How is this clown even in the lineup
Duncan is batting under .200 now, his defense sucks and he only has 4 HRs
What?
Duncan’s hitting .257 and his OBP is .364
I agree that he’s not very good, but at least he’s above the Mendoza line
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and by under .200 you mean...
.257?
Which is higher than what Glaus was this time last week. With more home runs.
His OPS is still 50 points higher than Skippy
Yet skippy seems to get lots of support
schnucks. commercials.
lie. they lie. lower prices like larue can hit the ball.
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Their radio commercials really lie...
Probably 2-3 times a game, they run a commercial about Schnunks’s donuts. How great they are. How many varieties there are. But if you go to a Schnunks, their donut section consists of maybe 5 varieties, 4 of which are sold out and the rest look old.
Start Ludwick
We're gonna get at least one more Luddy AB
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What, using the fringe AAA player in a 1 run game
How could that end badly? Not that we had many better choices
agreed... I have been pleasantly surprised
I just didn’t have a good feeling about the crawford AB. especially once he fell behind
First...
People bitch about LaRussa not trusting rookies…
Now we are bitching about LaRussa using a rookie.
Not really
He was a better choice than Flores, Spinger or Villone
He was a worse choice than Kyle, assuming Perez was being held for the 9th and franklin is unavailable
Unless
you tell me Crawford asked to shine Stan Musial’s shoes.
by chicagocardfan on May 18, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Terrible positioning leads to another double
that seems to be a theme for wherever in the OF Skippy is playing
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Pena's spray chart
He’s a pull hitter, but doesn’t seem to hit many to right or left center. Was Skippy pulled over to right or was he playing straightaway and couldn’t get to the gap?
Can someone explain
why Parisi was still in at 3-2, and with that why he is still in at 4-2? Shouldn’t he be more of a mop-up guy?
On with the (good) youth movement!
Give me Perez
Or give me death
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Perez and ?????
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because he's been good so far since his call up? might as well put him in until he proves he can't do it
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Funny how he gets that chance
But Luddy and Ryan don’t. Despite worse options in front of them
he has been?
numbers don’t look too hot to me (but then again, I haven’t been watching—just gameday).
Bring in the kid trying out for the closer’s role.
On with the (good) youth movement!
He wouldn't, though
Franklin would
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That's right
Forgot about tha
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I think the Cardinals are high on how he's pitched...
Bernie Miklasz was slobbering over how well Parisi had pitched. As he rarely has an original thought, he must have heard that from management.
Start Ludwick
+1
Too much anti-Parisi and not enough credit to a team that can grab a run if they wanted to. Rays are a good team.
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by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Crawford's AB was excellent
Got ahead, looked fastball, got three rips. Parisi would have been fine if he got the last curveball over. Good hitter took it for a ball.
At least Parisi only gave up 1
Kip Wells would have given up 15 right there
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You mean
The mean “those we don’t speak of”.
by mikeonthecards on May 18, 2008 4:46 PM EDT up reply actions
Ooops
I said his name…here comes the 10-game losing streak
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Parisi has been good
Sure wish Tony would have used him instead of izzy a couple of nights ago
Losing is a disease
Seems like we've had alot of those this game
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Ryan-Izturis-Schumaer-Miles
If they go back-to-back-to-back-to-back I will streak through downtown St. Louis
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If they all walk
Maybe I’ll go streaking through downtown Auburn
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Uh oh!
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Although I did say MAYBE
So I have a cop out, lol
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Keep your pants on
there’s other ways to score
by mikeonthecards on May 18, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions
oh come on!
leave wheeler in joe! please?
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Speaking of good pitching, Mitchell Boggs threw a gem for Memphis today
7 IP, 2 Hits, 2 BB’s, 10 K’s
his era is in the low 3’s now.
He could be an option to start next year along with Jaime Garcia
boo cubs, hooray beer
+6
Stan Musial day and all
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That's twice they've subbed a lefty pitcher in to face Iz2
He hits better from the right side!
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they are looking past him i would guess
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on May 18, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Lol
A distinct possibility
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Another Cesar walk would be nice
The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.
We should just take his bats away
He is more productive this way.
FSN Florida is taking a page out of WGN's handbook
every chance they get they are showing attractive lasses in the stands.
i am not complaining.
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come on SKIPPY
do some thing good here dude
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all right now
surely you can do something with two leadoff walks Cards offense
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 18, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions
Too late
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nice sac bunt there
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 18, 2008 4:53 PM EDT reply actions
Please Aaron
Be clutch here
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2nd & 3rd with 1 out and who do the Cards have coming to the plate?
Aaron F’ing Miles.
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Say that again?
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woooooooooooooooooooo
The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.
and he ties the game
way to make me look like a jackass Mini Me.
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Now you get perez ready
For the save or tie game
On a pitch over the heart
Of the batter’s box
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Glad it was a single, too
Pitch to Albert!
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If Miles hits cleanup....
he could single in all the stranded runners
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OK, Albert...
Ludwick has 11 homers and leads the team… doesn’t that just PISS you off? Huh?
Doesn’t it?
mmmm...Jager shots
The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.
It was at
Straussenfest or whatever in St. Louis a few years ago
by mikeonthecards on May 18, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I hope Perez is warming up
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oh poetic would this be
He would literally earn his nickname El Hombre
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
i'm surprised their pitching to him
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Ludwick is on deck
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That was supposed to be in response to gdm426
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hhahahahahahaha
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on May 18, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
or not
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on May 18, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
you can rip albert
but i dont like starting the runner there…he feels as if he has to swing
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Damn it Albert
Take the fucking walk
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i never thought i'd see the day
when LUD would get an IW
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Glaus needs to turn that 0-4 into a 1-5
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That's twice now
maybe the mang doesn’t like hitting with the runners moving?
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PUT SKIP ON THE BALLOT!!!
the announcers mentioned it
and with a hit and run he has to swing if its close
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
here's your opportunity Glaus
up that average
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 18, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions
Santa will have to bring winning presents
The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.
First was open for Luddy, not Albert
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Not sure if that was sarcasm or not
That’s just probably their reasoning
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Pitch to Albert
And intentionally walk Ludwick? And it makes sense.
What a strange year it has been.
2 outs, runners on 1st & 2nd, and who's at the plate?
Troy F’ing Glaus
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How did Glaus miss that first pitch
Should have deposited it in Big Mac Land
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that's better than i'd thought you'd do Troy
alright DUNK. do NOT swing at the first pitch high & outside.
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Duncan
This whole blog will stop ripping on you if you come through here
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Doubtful that we'd stop ripping on him
Or doubtful that he’ll come through?
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that the "whole blog" would stop
people rip AP pretty hard even though hes batting 340 and i believe its TLRs fault for starting the runner…u put him in defensive swing mode…the guy cant do it all the time..different scenario with dunc but u see the point
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Yeah
I was kinda trying to be funny
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funny at your first joke, or in your reply to me?
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Shit
Never mind, I quit, lol
The reply, btw
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ah its been a long day
your a more positive poster so i wasnt reading into anything
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
cod in a bit?
just got back into town.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 18, 2008 5:16 PM EDT up reply actions
dunno have to finish tonight
and maybe rest i did all 3 thismorning
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
ok
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 18, 2008 5:20 PM EDT up reply actions
DUNK needs some RBI's in the worst way
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Our whole team is allergic to the bases loaded
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Too many.
Seems to be the story of the season so far.
by mikeonthecards on May 18, 2008 5:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Shit
14 LOB in 8 innings
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Double switch here Tony
Pitcher in batting 6th
Ankiel into CF batting 8th
I’d take Ankiel with a hurt shoulder over more Dunc at this point
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ugh
they really need to figure out whats wrong with DUNK. he’s just not the same hitter he was a year ago.
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anyone have any suggestions
on getting a baseball video game?
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 18, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions
EA doesn't have a baseball game
Except for their college game…something about one of the companies getting all the rights or something like that
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yup
same way with madden they are exclusive NFL game unless u count the NFL pro thingy that came out but think thats ea as well…2k puts out MLB
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
+1, the show and it's not even close.
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The Show.
I haven’t played the newest one, but last years was awesom.
by mikeonthecards on May 18, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
I used to play All-Star baseball a while ago
on gamecube and n64
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 18, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
15 just a few games ago
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
love to watch people pitch at troy and dunc
Its shows you how stupid eams think they are. And there right.
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 18, 2008 5:10 PM EDT reply actions
how stupid they are? what exactly makes them stupid? their inability to hit major league pitching?
boo cubs, hooray beer
Glaus or dunc never
considered anything but the long ball….......teams taking advantage of the big hot air swings. A good hitter take the single and the lead. How many pitches throw to either were even strikes. Glaus took the walk because he didn’t take his sand wedge to the plate with him .
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 18, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
So, ...
40 ABs, 9 hits, and only ONE for extra bases. I think I see our issue with LOBs. Can somebody buy a damn 2B? That is pretty disappointing.
With Izzz2, Miles, LaRue, and Skippy
Is that really surprising ?
What's surprising is that LaRue has one of the hits.
I don’t understand why Skip doesn’t hit more, but somebody needs to teach him about gap hitting. Izturis and Miles are never gonna give you any more than singles.
Skip doesn't hit more because he doesn't have MLB starter skills
He isn’t a corner outfielder. If he could play 2b or SS, great. But right now unless he can outhit duncan, Ludwick, or Ank, he should not be in the lineup.
well Perez is in
bring the heat kid
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make that teams........not eams
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 18, 2008 5:11 PM EDT reply actions
Damn Perez
4 pitches 3 outs? I think I love you.
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Whoops
Gameday got a little ahead of itself
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Shit I'd let him bat
Who’s left to hit? Ankiel? Molina? Wainwright?
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mean while, back at the ranch
milton bradly just hit a 2run home run for the Rangers.
why didn’t the Cards sign that guy again?
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Boogymaness >>> OBP
but seriously, our OF is crowded enough, and he is a jerk and he gets hurt
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by jealousblues on May 18, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Very Nice...98mph Overlord...Very Nice!!!!!
Lets get him a win
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Walkoff Larue home run here
Then I can leave to go play softball. Don’t let me down Lawrence!
by cloistermaximus on May 18, 2008 5:13 PM EDT reply actions
bunt
are you saying he cant pop one over the fence?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 18, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i love when he pitch hits
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by ihavebadknees on May 18, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
LaRue's obp...Monumental Rise today
The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.
HOLY LaRue
3 times on base today. not swinging at anything. Or are the Rays just scared of the souche
he promised to tell them what channel the breast exams were on if they walked him
boo cubs, hooray beer
Way to get on base, Pornstache
Hey Gary…watch your cornhole
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Tony he's too good of a hitter
to waste bunting. let him hit!
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Fear the LaRue.
2 BB’s today. The Rays have obviously done their homework…
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by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 18, 2008 5:17 PM EDT reply actions
i think they were talking about wainer
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by ihavebadknees on May 18, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
If you're gonna PH someone just to bunt
Why not let Perez do it?
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He shouldn't have been bunting in the first place
not like Slappy McNohit and Skippy McSlappy are going to drive him in from 2nd.
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
lol
Very nice
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If we'd have never swung at a pitch from the 7th on...
we’d have won already
The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.
because of
larue’s blazing speed and Iz2’s prowess with the bat.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on May 18, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
i mean iz2
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on May 18, 2008 5:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm really mad that we PH Wainwright just to bunt
Either let him swing away or let Perez try to bunt…he threw 5 pitches last inning, and he’s the best we’ve had on the mound today! What a waste!
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Skip!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.
AND THAT'S ANOTHER WALK OFF WINNER FOR SKIPPY!!!!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
yeah baby!
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on May 18, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions
perez's first
MLB win
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on May 18, 2008 5:23 PM EDT reply actions
yippeee skippy!!!!!!!!
that’s a winner!!!!!!!!
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 18, 2008 5:24 PM EDT reply actions
thanks to Miles and Skip
of all people
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 18, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
YYYYYYYYYYYEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAAAAAAAAAAAAAHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
That was an excellent win!! Two days in a row!! Let’s get on a roll!!
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Hey Ranconteur...
should skip still wait for that Memphis bus??
Yes
I still don’t think he’s a quality major league player, if the OF is normal that’s a routine fly out
boo cubs, hooray beer
Gotta be kidding me
Skip has been great for the cards, he has just been in a little bit of a funk lately but the last two days he has had multihit games. +1 for skip, I have always liked him
Losing is a disease
In a funk?
His OPS is for this year is still above his carrer average. On the other hand Duncan is in a funk yet still outhitting little skippy.
Got to home base
But he’ll get there again later tonight
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HAHAHAHAHAHA
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on May 18, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
Skip's got his own pickup line written for him
“Just wait ‘til the end, when I give you the most excitement of your life”
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that's another game winner
for Schumaker
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 18, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
FYI
that was away as was mentioned teams are doing to him now
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
we needed this series
and the arrival of Senor Perez
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 18, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions
hell yeah
they call me El Jefe
Boss man and el capitan
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 18, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
A come-from-behind win for the Birds on the Bat!
Great job by the bullpen today keeping us in this one.
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 18, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions
Why can't he use some of that shit for the earlier innings?
Lol.
Keep in mind folks, we won yet another series where we lost the first game. Both in scrappy, pure grit and fighting fashion.
And we did it against a team that’s beating the Yankees and Boston down thus far. Hell they were 7 for 8 coming in. It’s nice to have a bullpen that keeps you IN a game for once.
Perez, you’re quickly opening a door that allows you into Cardinals Immortality. Nice pitching.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 5:26 PM EDT reply actions
We've had some bad losses the past few weeks
that I’m sure brought down team morale. These past two games probably have the morale through the rough!
To the West Coast we go!!
Proud President of the Unofficial Skip Schumaker Fan Club!
(now accepting applications)
PUT SKIP ON THE BALLOT!!!
Da Roof, Da Roof, Da Roof is on Fiiiiree.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 5:28 PM EDT up reply actions
thanks to the Rays lack of fundamentals
we won two close ones
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 18, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
We've also lost
several on lack of fundamentals. Karma is a blessing in disguise.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
errr
ROOF!
Proud President of the Unofficial Skip Schumaker Fan Club!
(now accepting applications)
PUT SKIP ON THE BALLOT!!!
+1, lol
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 5:30 PM EDT up reply actions
I like this team
Even when they are down they still battle through. We were down the last week. But these last two games were examples how this team doesn’t give up. Against a great AL team too.
bottom of the 9th, 1out, runners at 1st & 2nd, & who got the walk off hit for the Cards?
Skip F’ing Schumaker
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
his wpa
lives in the 9th inning.
Give me some in the earier 8 innings and I’ll be content, until then he’s a platoon player. Or should be.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 5:31 PM EDT up reply actions
Look at Iz's
May. He’s doing very well and everything you can ask for a 9th batter in a double leadoff setup.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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No joke
It’s what I chose to watch today while monitoring this.
I hope that the Cavs don’t tire out chasing. Feels like they’ve been climbing a points mountain since 5 min. in the first quarter.
Though if you want someone in that situation, then you want Mr 4th Quarter.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 5:35 PM EDT up reply actions
being from DC,
i hate the cavs more than i hate boston
Life's a river, kid, you gotta go where it takes you.
by KerouacCardinal on May 18, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
Remember he had
two hits today and got robbed of a third. I personally think the outfield should consist of skip ludwick and ankiel almost everyday when ankiel is healthy that is. I do not mind starting barton every once in a while when there is a lefty on the mound
Losing is a disease
as a platoon/ 4th OFer I don't mind him
I don’t really feel he is a starter though. But i’d take him over Duncan, that’s for sure.
boo cubs, hooray beer
I'll give the past couple of games
for skip, just like i gave the 10 or so games in April. But it’s also factual that the start of April and the start of May was absolutely horrid for someone you want in a leadoff role.
Skip needs to go day to day feeling pressure on his job, from the two on the bench and the possibilities in AAA.
I like the 9th inning heroics as much as any other fan, but he can give those just the same as a defensive replacement coming in during the 7th.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 5:38 PM EDT up reply actions
A great win today
but I do think Skip was the beneficiary of a drawn-in outfield. The ball just barely missed Crawford’s glove. But results do matter in my book, so kudos to Skippy.
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 18, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
agreed
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
It's a losing battle.
There are those that decided some time ago that Skip Schumaker is not a major league player, and it won’t matter what he does. They seem to be the same ones that believe Barton should play every day, despite his declining stats (as you would expect from a guy that jumped from AA to the bigs). I think Skip is going to have trouble maintaining his everyday leadoff position without hitting an occasional extra-base hit. However, the options aren’t nearly as appealling as some seem to think. If you put Barton in there for a month, you are going to see his ups and downs, as well. Duncan has value, but I can’t justify benching 2 of our 5 OFs for him to start every day. Ludwick has to play every day, right now. Until he shows this to be a fluke, you can’t take him out of there. Skip has been streaky, but he still has a .353 OBP before today. That is getting the job done in the leadoff position, even if it’s not exceptional. I don’t see anybody else stepping up to take it away from him.
I’m ok with him being declared as a 4th OF if you can identify for me the 3 that have to start every day.
My contention
is that if Rick is healthy and Ludwick has a bat, we have 2 OF and a platoon on the third. Skip’s real close to starting more games than even Rick. That’s not ok when this OF was s’posed to be results based.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 5:47 PM EDT up reply actions
But
I do agree that Barton isn’t the answer, or even duncan as some contend.
Just don’t slot Skip when doing the lineup card, look at his games and base on performance.. which was the whole idea of the OF this year.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 5:48 PM EDT up reply actions
The fact is ...
only Ludwick has been consistent in the OF this year. Rick’s high points have certainly outweighed Skip’s, but his lows have been pretty bad, too. I don’t know if it’s good or bad, but your point about results-oriented decisions is a good one. I have the same problem with Ankiel being slotted in there every day. His performance hasn’t justified that. Right now, Duncan is getting more playing time than his results have warranted, also.
The fact is 4 of the 5 have been streaky, and each has good and bad points to their game. Skip probably isn’t an everyday player for most teams, but his glove and leadoff abilities have made him more useful than Duncan or Barton, so far. Maybe Barton can fill the leadoff spot, but LaRussa clearly doesn’t feel he is ready for that. I don’t know what he is missing, but I would guess it comes down to defense (in LaRussa’s opinion).
I don’t think any player should be above concerns for his job. I think it keeps all of them on their toes.
Somebody said this earlier in the thread
But Milton Bradley would look real good as our 3rd everyday outfielder.
"Good to see you wearing the birds on the bat, Jason"
“Yep, catch the bird flu”
-Jason LaRue
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 18, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply actions
is there a story behind this quote?
do tell
Proud President of the Unofficial Skip Schumaker Fan Club!
(now accepting applications)
PUT SKIP ON THE BALLOT!!!
was star of the game for scoring winning run
and said both quotes in his interview with rooney
by thatsawinner on May 18, 2008 5:44 PM EDT up reply actions
also liked his saying
“he was throwing tinder, wasn’t he?” about perez. who knew larue was so colorful?
by thatsawinner on May 18, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Skip is out of options
hate to burst bubbles…hes gotta be dfa’d if we are gonna send him out
The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.
I don't want him out
just not in an “automatic” job in the OF.
This year has been touted as results based, yet it feels as if you can bet coin he’s in there unless he’s having a day off and it feels that part of the reason is the rationale of the leadoff role.
You show me a couple of walk offs, I’ll show you 25 games of funk. Results matter in a 5 man OF platoon.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
NM
I see where the response is, to the convo during game about going to Memphis, sorry coach!
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 5:42 PM EDT up reply actions
thankfully what you think means nothing...
Aside from his walk-off winner, skip came up clutch with an RBI with the bases loaded and a clutch sac bunt that to two more runs. Your vendetta against skip is an uphill battle. Don’t waste your time.
He's not showing signs of a "vendetta" against Skip.
You’re just pissed that somebody called you out on that earlier about Barton. Adjusted’s point about results-oriented management is right on. There are several others on here about whom your point would be valid, but you picked the wrong guy on this one.
what anyone “thinks” means little in the context of things. But it’s absolutely fantastic that you recall all of the great Skip moments and ignore the fact that he was .217/.265/.304 for this entire month until this series.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 6:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Do we have to start applying the same logic to Miles?
Cause I really don’t want to acknowledge it, but the little bugger has actually been outperforming Kennedy lately. I can’t justify his defense over Izturis at SS, but at 2B? The fact is, he probably belongs in the leadoff spot until the heat melts him again.
I haven't been vocal about it
but I have. One of the commodities that Miles represents is batting very well against teams that he hasn’t seen before. His numbers in interleague play don’t lie. I think Miles numbers are so well because he’s being used in places where he should be used.
Because in the IF where Miles is concerned, he’s put in there based on results. Look at the games he’s been put in, interleague, roster issues (glaus hurt), or where he’s had above average success against the other teams starter.
Ryan needs more playing time though, if you need to think about Iz from the left side then I’d think about having Ryan in instead. And if you’re looking for someone who could suprise in a leadoff role in limited platoon fashion. Ryan may be the guy.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions
I'd really like to see Ryan improve his OBP numbers.
His batting average is much better than Izturis, and I’m not convinced that he isn’t a solid SS. But, right now you are still getting quite a bit better OBP from Izturis with a significantly lower BABIP. It worries me about what will happen when Ryan’s BABIP comes down from his current .346 value.
Right
and I see that as well which is why I’m leaning towards a platoon. But when Iz did go into leadoff during Skips first funk he looked terrible.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions
That was also at the beginning of the season.
He seems to have calmed down some since then, and he hadn’t played everyday for a while at that point. I would be curious to see him get another shot.
I'm ok with another shot
but he fills out that 9th double leadoff so well. So I dunno, he’s a leadoff batter anyways is where I’m coming from with the pitcher hitting 8th.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
There’s no reason why we shouldn’t be giving the middle infield competition as much – if not more – scrutiny than the outfield. I’m still not sure why Ryan doesn’t get more playing time.
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 18, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
and that’s revolved around my points on skip. If skip is laboring but in there because of the need for a “perfect” leadoff spot, I’d say on a platoon situation Ryan can fill that need when Skip isn’t there.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions
No one will agree with me
But I think Barton can/will give us the best option at the leadoff spot. I’d at least like to see play time split evenly between him and Skip – and in the case of Ank being injured, even playing time between Barton and Dunc. I really feel like I’m not seeing as much from the kid as I’d like.
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 18, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions
I do
which is the core of my comments. How can anyone beat on barton for his numbers declining when he’s barely being used? How can skip be considered an automatic starter when this year was about results based performance.
Tony and Mo both said that this year was going to be staffed with result based performances. Tony has said many times that the reason for April was because they were fighting for their jobs.
My contention is the fact that for some reason there’s no fighting for jobs, it’s as if Skip won that job based on the last half of April, which is silly if you ask me when you look at his start of april, and even more seering.. the start of May.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I am not convinced, yet.
I think his body of work has been too small to make any definite statements about how Barton will do. I don’t think that Schumaker has proven enough to be given the guaranteed spot (which I believe is the point that Adjusted has been making), and I think Barton probably deserves to be given some additional playing time. I don’t understand why Duncan has gotten so much more playing time over Barton, though I kind of understand that they were waiting for him to break out. I don’t think you should give him the benefit of the doubt for a month, though. Schumaker has provided enough that he doesn’t deserve to be banished to the bench or Memphis.
I think Barton probably has more potential to be an everyday leadoff hitter than anybody we have, so he needs to be given an opportunity.
Here's something to take into context to what I've been saying
As of today. Here’s the game starting numbers for the OF
Rick (who has preseason bias) – 38
Skip – 35
Ryan (who has deserved starts based on stats) – 26
Duncan – 27
Barton – 14
My contention is that Skip has been getting an automatic lock to a job his numbers don’t support.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 6:54 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm with you.
I don’t disagree with your premise. I’m don’t understand why Duncan has an advantage over both Ludwick and Barton. I don’t understand why Barton has so few starts. I think that if you take away 10 starts from Skip and give them to Barton, then you are probably about where things should be. I personally think that Ankiel is probably getting a free pass that he hasn’t earned, but I know that will be pretty unpopular. Maybe I’m wrong. His defense has been pretty good, and when his offense has been good it has helped carry the team.
A part of me would like to see Ankiel on the 15-day DL just so that some of this could get sorted out. I think we agree more than we disagree.
As fans
we were pretty well informed that Rick would be the dominant fixture in the OF. I’m ok with that.
I take an outfield as if a starting 5 on a basketball team. The more the team is “centered” the better they will be. Rick’s time off has been pretty corresponding to play, which he’s in a slump it usually corresponds to time off. But with him being in center then it’s a foundation that’s always there, and one that saves us runs in the long haul. I’m ok with that.
But once you walk past Rick then we as fans were told that the other kids were to get time based on performance.
Which you just don’t see, Duncan’s an automatic when we’re facing a righty, skip’s glove (and it is overrated) and his leadoff role has cornered him blindly into almost as many starts as Rick, which was against the game plan.
Barton’s starts are way out of whack to what we should have seen by now and Ludwick’s starts don’t correspond at all to his performance on the field.
I’m trying two things, one of the tenets to our April has started to evaporate, it’s not a true platoon. Two, what was one of our strengths is quickly becoming a weakness.
And no, I don’t think overall we really disagree at all. But instead of me coming out and blasting Skip, Duncan, or whomever without any real rationale. I’m trying to make sure what I say has facts backing it up, and I want to make sure that I do it without bias.
If I don’t, we all lose. And I’ve enjoyed this discussion quite a bit.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions
You've given me plenty to research.
Your starting numbers were pretty eye-opening. I am going to do some homework to see what I think your best starting lineup would look like, based on the numbers. As I’ve said, I have a bias against Miles, but I’m going to try to look past it. In the OF, I don’t really have a bias. I do have some preconceived notions that I want to look at. I will try a fanpost on the topic.
good topic and points
but need to be mentioned win your team wins after struggling mightily? i say no
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Do you lose sight
on a situation that we weren’t s’posed to worry on because of a great game?
here’s another point. LaRue was on base 3 times today. Woohoo.
But look at the hole he’s been every other game he’s appeared in. Should we start recommending more starts because we won?
he was the scoring run wasn’t he?
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Hey, it was a good win, but ...
the regular season is a long haul. I don’t get too high or too low from any game during the season. I still think you have to look at the team as a whole when you are evaluating. If you look solely at results, then today probably isn’t the day to ridicule Skip. However, you do have to look at the situations over the course of time, and that is what we are discussing.
Exactly.
How soon we forget about how miserable we were earlier in the game with the offense sputtering.
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 18, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions
i never said u couldnt ridicule skip
but it’s like everybody whines they arent winning the scrape out 2 out of three albeit ugly wins, and people wine
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
I'm not whining
I’m just trying to bring some context to the specific comments I’ve replied too.
Skips past two games are great, and i’m glad he’s came through on both, however when we had two 3 game losing streaks he was there, and his numbers didn’t support it.
We were told several things going into this season, and I’m pointing out one that isn’t being realized.
It’s May, we still have a lot more games ahead of us.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions
I think Skip is So Taguchi...
He has value as a 4th outfielder. But probably gets overexposed when starting all the time.
Start Ludwick
I agree, kinda
I don’t think we have a 3rd, which is why this makes this so contentious. But by games start he’s getting looked at as if he’s the #2 OF. And those numbers don’t support it.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions
This discussion isn't whining.
This discussion is looking at the facts of the players’ performances and discussing what the best management decisions would be. That is what this forum is for. There were some others that making irrational statements about who’s awful and who should be sent down. Go chastise them. We’re talking about what is best for the ball club based on its current roster.
i wasnt chastising anyone
and wasnt refering to anyone specific when i said whining so sorry you took offense. I was making a point that is all. Personally I dont see skip as everday either. But he has come through at times this year and has played better than I have imagined.
I just tend to think this so the guy hit 217 this month im sure thats been poitned out enough, he gets a great hit and they get a needed win then amybe that should be pointed out more…i just thought the whole topic would be a great fan post other than tagged to a win thngg just my opinion which i thought i could give
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Sorry, I didn't mean it that way.
I see that my comments came out wrong. I felt like you were trying to squelch the discussion. You are probably right. This discussion probably belongs in a fanpost.
Sorry, again. Your opinion was valid. I just felt like a good discussion was being written off. My bad.
Oh,..
no offense taken on my end, seriously. Just debating points.
The great hit has been pointed out, by me and by most who followed the game today a lot more than this discussion.
Skip has more at bats than Ludwick who’s leading in a lot of offensive categories.
Rick who has been the only one with known bias towards everyday starts.
Duncan, who most can agree has been lethargic over the course of the season.
And has 100 more at bats than Barton, who everyone says has cooled off, of course he has, you don’t see pitches, you don’t hit them.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions
I think nearly 100% would agree Dunc would be the odd man out
he has looked really bad and perhaps its still the hernia thing…when i had mine I fought scar tissue for some time. I had double not sure what he had. I think it took nearly a yr to get right. Heat and cold woud effect it at times. Sometimes I even wondered is this right..thats when it turnrned out i was fighting scar tissue..
Whatever it is he looks way off balance at times
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
His slugging is an eye sore, but at least his eyes are giving something back. And his starts reflect that, he’s started largely against RHP and with 27 starts he’s representing what he should. He’s being platooned with the other players.
I’ll take Duncan being platooned in towards his strengths. It’s worked for Miles reasonably well. But I do miss that bat that made people look twice. Surgery and changing swing shouldn’t have been done at the same time, it now puts too many variables into his offensive production.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 7:25 PM EDT up reply actions
I missed Lohse's pitching.
But looking at his line he looks liked he did a pretty good job.
6 ip 5 strike outs with no walks. 8 hits and 2 ER.
Though… he did seem to give up some doubles.
He was getting beaten like a mule early in the game.
He never really settled in, and he left a lot of balls up in the zone.
Why did the Rays have the OF in?
With Jason LaRue at 2B and 1 out, you could still get him out at home if you don’t let routine flyballs get over your head.
They chose to play in for some reason and YAY FOR US!!!!
That’s bad baseball on their part, though. After the baserunning yesterday and that move today, that has to be heartbreaking for them.
by Hardcore Legend on May 18, 2008 5:47 PM EDT reply actions
Indeed
but we lost a few games on not playing for removing the XBH defense. So it’s nice to win one in that fashion.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 5:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Don't look now
the Reds have won 8 of their last 10. That’s all we need right now, the Reds and Bucs playing well…
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 18, 2008 5:54 PM EDT reply actions
the cards win 2of three from one of the best in the AL
after all the struggles skip gets the key hit, and whats the descussion? whether or not he should play every day..great topic, but enjoy the win geez
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Why the Cardinals won that game.
I just got back from the game, and I can’t believe we stole one like that. That being said,
it was obvious what won us that game. Rays - 0 walks, Cards - 11 walks. If ever there was a display of OBP vs SLG, this was it. Rays hit the cover off the ball all game, but did only limited damage, when they managed to put two together. Cards had a few well placed hits (and missed several golden opportunities) but had runners on in every inning. With 11 walks, you’re going to leave some guys on. So here are the lines for the game:
Rays
.778 slugging .407 OBP 1.185 OPS
Birds
.556 slugging 0.568 OBP 1.124 OPS
Take the on-base every time, boys.
the OBP with timely hits
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
sadly enough
it goes both ways. We layered hits all over the place against the Pirates and they did the same thing we did to the Rays, stole late.
At least was our own fault, and more importantly – our management has brought Perez in.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions
ya i hope him and parisi stick
with them coming in and doing well it takes pressure of K Mac to be 0’s everytime out..there for awhile i thought he was the only sure thing, and lately hes not bee lights out which is ok it a long season
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
+1
I think the young relievers have been really exciting, so far. I have been very impressed with Parisi, so far. Perez has looked good in his first couple of outings, and McClellan has been pretty good. I think that some additional time will hopefully give them the consistency they will need. I would rather watch them work then Franklin, Springer, and even Isringhausen right now.
if you look down in memphis
I’d be willing to trade Flores for flores
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
You'd better not post a .568 OBP and lose
.568?!? That’s freaking ridiculous.
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 18, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply actions
I need to self-edit...
Forgot to take into account the AB that were hits.
Rays .305 OBP Cards .438 OBP
Still, a crazy high OBP for a single game.
Some familiar names atop the NL leaderboard for HRs
Berkman, Utley, Chipper Jones, D. Lee and…Ludwick? I still can’t get over Ludwick’s start. I wasn’t expecting 11HR from the guy all season, but 11 by MAY? Dude is a beast.
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 18, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply actions
and as far as I can recall, he doesn’t even qualify for the batting title, lol. Poor kid
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions
What's worse
is that he’s not really a kid. He’s almost 30. Where’s the classic TLR love for career minor-leaguers?
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 18, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions
indeed
hell, he’s older than I am by a year. Just think of all players in the game as kids, as at the end of the day and the money is set aside, it’s a bunch of kids playing the dream
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
adjusted - you have way too much time on ur hands brotha...
put the potato chips down and go get some exercise chubby.
Sigh,
Nice post. do keep in mind that you’re here as well, I was in a conversation and it is Sunday. I’ll worry about where my time is spent, ok?
And if you’ve seen me, instead of played ignorant stereotypes, the potato chip comment is a little absurd, but then again considering the bullshit you’ve typed today, I’m not surprised.
So I’ll leave you with a little tip son, get some knee pads. I’m sure your boy Skip doesn’t like complainers.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 18, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Dude
I haven’t seen you around this blog too often, but every time I do you’re either spewing unfounded vitriol at Brian Barton or insulting fellow posters. I’d say about 5-10% of your total posts have been meaningful and insightful. The personal attacks are absolutely unwelcome around here. Let me point you to the Community Guidelines:
If you enjoy posting on this blog, I’d knock off the personal insults. And at least if you’re going to dog Brian Barton on a daily basis on this site, give us some sort of data or reasoning behind your feelngs. If you keep it up, I’ll file a complaint, and I may not be the only one.
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Joey Bombs hits another
if Ankiel can’t play, DL him and callup Joey Bombs.
by Hardcore Legend on May 18, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions
I just looked it up
This years Cardinals are on pace to shatter the single season LOB Record
boo cubs, hooray beer
Jake Peavy will miss his next start
due to a sore elbow. I believe he was supposed to start on Wednesday, so we miss him either way.
by Hardcore Legend on May 18, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions
fun game
Can we play against Wheeler every night, can we, can we, huh, please
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