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8 LOB?
People complain about all the LOB when they score 3-5 runs (like they have been). But tonight, they only have 4 LOB and zero runs. I hope people are happy….
Start Ludwick
now thats funny boss
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
here's the moment everyones been waiting for
bring the heat Perez
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
and hes 22
sweet
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on May 16, 2008 10:06 PM EDT up reply actions
said he thrwos a mean slider
and a nice curve ball but is reluctant to throw it
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by punchinjudy on May 16, 2008 10:07 PM EDT up reply actions
uh, how'd you miss that Albert?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
was it hit harder than it looked?
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by punchinjudy on May 16, 2008 10:08 PM EDT up reply actions
was he somehow distracted by the broken bat flying or something?
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
he looked confused
maybe he needs glasses?
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by punchinjudy on May 16, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
and then tightened his glove after
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by punchinjudy on May 16, 2008 10:10 PM EDT up reply actions
so
has Perez thrown anything other than a fastball?
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I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on May 16, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions
but he's been changing speeds on the fb
at least according to the fox speed gun
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
ive seen 92
a couple times but I hadnt had a chance to really sit and watch
i want to see a slider gosh darn it
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did you see that one?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
i wonder how much this dude
hates tony parkers wife?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
its his sister
so not much
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by punchinjudy on May 16, 2008 10:12 PM EDT up reply actions
there was actually a magazine article about it
ESPN or something… Evan apparently knows her and tried to hit on her once, to no avail.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
nice
but if you dont change last names thats weird
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by punchinjudy on May 16, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions
thats awesome
i bet she’s done that to a lot of men. no need to hang your head on that one.
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his real shot would have been to get on her show
they make out with everyone
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by punchinjudy on May 16, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions
who needs a slider when you can throw it by them with your heat?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
In California...
I have Dish Network so I don’t have the extra innings package anymore… how does Perez’s stuff look? I heard his fastball is a nasty one… not just straight hard stuff… true?
Personally
I found the slider even more impressive. The fastball doesnt have crazy movement, but it is ample
ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?
by Smokin Turkeys on May 16, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions
i like Perez
and how cool was it to see Perez vrs Longoria?
p.s. I still cant get used to saying Tampa bay Rays.
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That inning is the definition of our offense today
and the overall helpless feeling that I have had all game. Then again I can not remember a time when the cards hit a pitcher well that they have never seen before.
ESPN Management (CT): Umm…...what does this have to do with the Red Sox and Yankees?
SportsNation Jerry Crasnick: Management, Let’s take a break with the sarcasm, OK?
by Smokin Turkeys on May 16, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply actions
miles you aren't fast
and longoria is a damn good fielding third baseman. don’t try to bunt your way on.
(PS – Perez looked pretty damn good if a touch wild.)
i get the feeling
that thats something we are going to have to live with.
hasnt that always been the story with that guy?
but who knows.
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by jealousblues on May 16, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
ya they said
he walks alot and i think almost as much as he ks
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by punchinjudy on May 16, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
absolutely
but I expected a little better control of the slider. it was sloppy tonight. His fastball looked good though. He’ll always walk a few batters but he offsets that by being very difficult to hit.
Miles will only have a big league job
as long as TLR is a manager somewhere.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
ya know, mo has a very strong character
and seems to “get it”. If ANYONE would fire TLR and get away with it, Mo is the one to do it.
And pissing away a season over a closer/SS/Schumaker fetish might be just enough rope, if I was a Mo…
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
the good news is...
that we’re still only down 3 runs
although it does feel like we’re down at least twice that
I still think we’ll plate some runs tonight
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
a basic survival mechanism
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
parisi's looking pretty damn good, too
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
not just good
nasty
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by punchinjudy on May 16, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions
hmm, parisi in
guess lohse is going on sunday?
or is Parisi going down, and garcia getting the spot start? it’ll be his day…
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they said loshe is going
several times despite what we all heard
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by punchinjudy on May 16, 2008 10:25 PM EDT up reply actions
Kid pitchers
have looked good tonight. That’s all that has looked good.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
Glaus has had a good day
and Looper didn’t look bad, though he was hardly efficient, and he got a bit lucky with the double plays
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
How about some baserunners?
We need to fatten up our LOB numbers.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
all, right Duncan
let’s see if this wakes up the others
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
I doubt it..
Duncan had been hitting that pitcher pretty well (other than the strike out). His line drive fly ball could have been a double if it were about a foot more to the right
Start Ludwick
i believe he is allowed that
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by punchinjudy on May 16, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions
he pitches like Tony and Dave want us to pitch
pitch strikes, to contact, get a low pitch count, with 8 hits and only 1 run
by enoscountry on May 16, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions
well, shucks.
Maybe we can get 8 hits in this inning?
Crap, guess not. Maybe next inning?
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yeah, I know
it even hovered around the middle of the plate for him
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
wouldnt say im glad
but still think the guy tries to do way too much..even in a streak like that you could see him press to get a needed hit etc…
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by punchinjudy on May 16, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Careful
I got blasted for saying I hoped it would end a while back.
I may have deserved it. Actually, no. I didn’t. Whatever. It’s over. I’m more concerned with the team’s struggles at the moment. AP is holding up his end, streak or no streak.
by Youneverknow on May 16, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions
all we need now are two more solo shots
so we can take it into extras and Albert can get his shot at the streak
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I'm tired of the f#$@#$ing streak ...
I want some homers and rbi from him. He’s about 20th in the NL in rbi.
by Urban Pawnee on May 16, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
well no one pitches to him, why would they?
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by jealousblues on May 16, 2008 11:29 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah,
but we wouldnt have seen Perez today ;-)
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by jealousblues on May 16, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions
that was a strike?
I’ll take it, but…
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
no
a total of four runs is impossible, but a total of three…
I like them odds.
but that just takes us into extras where we lose
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by jealousblues on May 16, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions
wj didn't even offer arbitration.
what a gentleman…
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
that's what they told the media, at least.
Doesn’t make it a smart move. ast the very least we should have gotten a sandwich pick out of giving him an MLB comeback.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
not surprising though
see T womack
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by punchinjudy on May 16, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Am I just imagining it
or are we always in a slump when Interleague play rolls around? I keep thinking about the drubbings we took in 2006 from the White Sox (20-6 loss in one game) and Detroit.
Of course, 2006 ended well.
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
i think
cleveland drummed us that year too
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except seat cushion night 2
thank you bob wickman
by enoscountry on May 16, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions
speaking of bad calls
lebron just got im a leron james call….man this officialting at the end of this game is terrible
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
as much grief as we give them
MLB umpires are far more competent , honest and professional than the crooks and clowns that officiate in the NBA
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
if ud watched these last 2 minutes
its like hmm they want it to go back to boston..KG got called for a walk even though lebron does it and it wasnt it was a hack, then pierce gets called for an O fould when lebron was moving..and then allen goes to the hole gets fouled and goaltending on same play they say it wasnt goal tending make him shoot 2 instead of one.. should be a 1 point game right now
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by punchinjudy on May 16, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
now a no call travel to which the announcer says
wow
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on May 16, 2008 10:47 PM EDT up reply actions
The Celtics have gotten away with hugging their opponent on
defense all season. It’s only fair that some calls go against them for once.
by Hardcore Legend on May 16, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions
All right, Glaus
you’ve seen him pitch a lot
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
percival needs to thank the cards
for iving him that shot
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by punchinjudy on May 16, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions
off topic
but has anyone ever seen a jersey, i picture, a ball cap or a logo from the year the cardinals were called the Perfectos like back in 1898 or whatever?
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sorry, 1899
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1899_St._Louis_Perfectos_season
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by jealousblues on May 16, 2008 10:48 PM EDT up reply actions
google image search has some
including a team photo in this thread.
by enoscountry on May 16, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions
not good, not bad
got lucky on a lot of double plays
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
He was hit hard
The pitches seemed to be up in zone in the early innings
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
Balls aren't carrying at the ballpark this year
What’s the expanation?
The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me
record amount of rain?
haven’t heard an official explanation, but high humidity/low temp would do it. Both increase the amount of drag a baseball sees in the air.
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ouch
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by punchinjudy on May 16, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions
glaus was a steroids guy
no proof afaik that he ever did HGH. Boo, Steroids!!! (thah Guv’mint told me they was bad, so I boos ‘em!!!).
Ankiel was an HGH guy, which isn’t even illegal today (we’ve had this conversation before) and he did it before it was against the rules of baseball.
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And neither of those clarifications
mean anything.
by Hardcore Legend on May 16, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions
except that it's bullshit
to give Ankiel shit about using HGH.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
Except that he used it
whether you have no ethical problem with it or not, it won’t make his use of it go away.
by Hardcore Legend on May 16, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions
guess I was just mad about the fact
that you equated Glaus and Ankiel. Their PED use was NOT equivelant; Glaus could go to jail for what he did, in 2 different countries, and would have been suspended if selig had anything left between his legs. While ankiel can’t be prosecuted and did not break any baseball rule.
They are totally different cases, and while I will always root for Glaus as the cards 3B, he’s tainted. To me, Ankiel is not, despite the story the CHI/NY media tried to sell last year.
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I'd have to agree
not to bulk into a conversation or to bandwagon, but as we go forward into a “roid aware” regime we need to be careful about the notational differences between HGH and ‘roids.
I have no issues watching a guy getting reminded about either use, but they shouldn’t be considered the same, because they’re not. Not from a MLB rules point of view, or a technical point of view.
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by AdjustedExpectations on May 17, 2008 12:55 AM EDT up reply actions
The weather?
Do you live in St. Louis (if not, then excuse the sarcasm). It’s been cold and rainy pretty much all “spring”. April was the 35th coolest month on record (or for the Global Warming people, 103rd warmest) and 49th wettest. May has been even wetter and not much warmer.
Start Ludwick
well that sucked
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
at least the astros are getting schnockered
berkmann is 2-4 and still has a negative WPA, lol. hopefully this game brings them back to reality.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
Josh Hamilton is carrying
my fantasy team right now.
by Hardcore Legend on May 16, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions
wow
carlos gomez, the CF for the Twins just tried to run threw the wall in Coors as he made the final out of the game. heck of a catch by the kid. guess they really didnt need Torii after all.
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it's amazing
Carlos Gomez’ .705 OPS is good for a 98 OPS+. While Hunter’s AL .829 OPS is worth a 128 OPS+—roughly equivelant in the AL to Rick Ankiel’s .878 OPS in a pitchers park (129 OPS+).
WTF has happened to the AL this year? it’s like every AL GM has totally punted on offense.
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Now we know how the Pirates felt
Except the Rays didn’t give the game up in the 8th. Didn’t it feel eerily similar to how we’ve been playing? I mean, they slapped us around silly left a ton on base, and scored 3.
Then have a guy who’s ERA looks awful on paper make us look like he was Cy Young reincarnated. Really sucks if you ask me.
Couple of notes that I noticed outside of that.
Looper looked ok by me. Did he have it tonight? No. (Does he have it any night? Lunch specials only, thanks). That being said, he pitched reasonable enough. I won’t complain about anyone getting through six with 2 runs plated, regardless of how it occurs. Lucky by DP? Maybe, but then again we pay that “scrappy” MI over 6 million to turn them, and Looper isn’t a K type of pitcher so I wouldn’t call it luck, just baseball.
His bat makes me wonder if we want a pitcher to PH, why aren’t we using him in some of those situations. Yes, Waino has more power. However, Looper has had a lot more productive of a bat when he does.
Glaus seems to be waking up. I hope it’s sustainable because if it is, maybe we can do something with it. Two mashed balls to opposite field, one warning track and one for a triple is nice to see. Even more so considering how much in front he used to be. I really want to discount his strikeout because those calls were pretty bad. Sonnanstine was getting really low strikes in the 2nd.
How good did our farm boys look tonight over the last 3? I mean seriously. I’ll disregard the wild comments because it was his first inning of work. There’s a lot to be excited about with those two, and I’m really, really hoping that they do well. Not because I want just them up in the ranks, but because it may open the door for the others that are peeking in. We have a decent pen this year, what management needs to get is that half of them are in Memphis.
I like Skip, I enjoy him on the roster, but it feels like he’s sewn up a job that should be platooned more aggressively. He’s not doing much and Barton is starting to be effected by the limited at bats. If we want Luddy in there, then we need to bring Ryan in to lead off. Matter in fact I’d like to see Ryan lead off for a few games and see if we can use that to allow some more aggressive platoon options in the OF.
I’d really like to see some numbers on the patience of our guys and contact out of the zone. It feels like ever since we walked off that game at Coors our guys have slowly lost the ability to break pitchers and when we’re RISP, we’re not overly productive.
And I don’t care what anyone says about regressing to the means. Yes, we should slow up a bit and come back to earth from the April start, but the facts of the situation remain. We’ve been “out” of what? Two games this month? And we’re still walking away with losses.
Sigh.
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by AdjustedExpectations on May 17, 2008 1:43 AM EDT reply actions
We are the anti-Rays
they play close games with no offense and win. We play close games with no offense and lose.
And these guys are playing in a tougher league. Go figure.
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