Game 44 Open Thread: May 16 2008
by lboros on May 16, 2008 7:01 PM EDT
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PrintTampa Bay Rays at St. Louis Cardinals, May 16, 2008 8:15 PM EDT
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| Sonnanstine | Looper |
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rays are an interesting team. they don't seem to excel at anything in particular --- 7th in the league in obp, 7th in slugging,. 5th in scoring, 4th in era . . . . . turns out where they excel is on defense: they are 2d in the a.l. in defensive efficiency ratio (.716), 2d in double plays, and 2d in fielding percentage.
the cards may be catching a break in drawing sonnanstine, a pitch-to-contacter whose fastball averages 87 mph, per fangraphs. he features a cut fastball, a la greg maddux, and batters apparently have trouble squaring it up ---- his line-drive rates have been below average since he came into the league last year.
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Just goes to show...
stats aren’t EVERYTHING. Go Cards!
Take Perez Spot
So who is going to take Perez’s spot on the bullpen in Memphis? Fernando Salas is rocking down in Springfield with a nice 23 IP 8BB and 37K’s putting down a WHIP of .91 and ERA of 1.96.
Anyone know anything about this guy?
The Running Rays
they are a very fast teams that goes from 1st to 3rd as well or better than the Angels do.
Yadi better have his cannon loaded.
by Hardcore Legend on May 16, 2008 7:22 PM EDT reply actions
speed & defense
I seem to remember the Cards used to do that. Might could get nostalgic. Naah, the Rays’ uniforms are just too ugly, so for now I’ll settle for that Yadi-to-the-Mang pickoff move :-)
the cardinals recent slip
you could easily point at the defense not being as good to explain it as much as the bullpen, RISP, etc.
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
our defense
seems to be a lack of concentration over lack of talent.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
what are you seeing?
I’m pretty well limited to Gameday & would appreciate your view. bad breaks by the outfielders? infielders going to the wrong spots on cutoffs & relays? Izturis screwed up a few early in the year, is that still going on?
I can recall a few off hand
Albert and the foul ball he should have caught, wasn’t an error and was lack of concentration not talent.
iz had one error on a awful throw that didn’t cost us a run, but his arm is usually golden so concentration, not talent.
Kennedy gets a lot of shit, but the reality of it is when he’s healthy he’s generally + defender at 2b, his drop the other day was concentration. I can’t recall the last dropped popup he’s had, most of his errors are the off the hop variety.
By my standards we have one of the best infield defenses in the game, and while Skip is overrated and Duncan is underrated, our OF isn’t that bad either.
We have the talent, but at times we have some stupid plays. Which means lack of concentration, due to too many high stress innings I’d say.
Seems like every day is game 7 out there.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions
another, Izzy’s throw. now, he’s a headcase this year, but it’s not like he makes errant throws all of the time.
Off hand Izzy and Adams are the only run costing high leverage situations we’ve had. But there are 40 games played, and I don’t remember them all
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Thanks, AE
Thanks for the detail. I’m largely in agreement, though I’m not yet ready to say the bad play is caused by stress. If it is, it won’t be something we haven’t seen recently.
we led the league
and were #3 in all of MLB in going first to third last year. Goold had an article about it last week.
We’re also #1 in RZR by a very large margin, so our defense is pretty good too. Only three teams in the NL are within 40 POINTS of us, defensively.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
Exactly
which backs up my original point and supporting replies.
We are damn good defensively, and anytime we have issues is lack of concentration, because over 40 games it’s quite clear, the talent is there by a margin.
I would even say that if we didn’t have this defense, we’d be even worse off than we are, I can think of quite a few high leverage web gems we’ve had. Rick’s assists, Skips, and Glaus come to mind. Alberts great snag and Iz makes his look so easy but some are baffling where he gets to. (remember the over the shoulder assist? slick)
Even Ryan has quite a few gorgeous grabs in his limited role.
from 1 -25 we have a solid defensive core.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Lineup
Schumaker-9
Duncan-7
Pujols-3
Ankiel-8
Glaus-5
Molina-2
Kennedy-4
Looper-1
Izturis-6
Not a big fan. We need defense against a team like Tampa and Duncan doesn’t provide that. It also takes Ludwick out of the lineup and thus causes everything else to be jumbled.
by Hardcore Legend on May 16, 2008 7:25 PM EDT reply actions
I don't like it either
WTF happened to batting Kennedy 2nd? We need Luddy in there.
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here's my latest suggested lineup
Schumaker/Barton
Kennedy
Pujols
Ludwick
Ankiel
Glaus
Molina
Pitcher
Izturis/Ryan
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
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I give this lineup a C-
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 7:35 PM EDT up reply actions
this is a good night to sit luddy
it seems like guys with good offspeed pitches are his achilles heel…
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
I think it's safe to say
Looper is a better hitter than their pitcher
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 7:42 PM EDT reply actions
by most metrics
Looper has been damn good vs waino as well, maybe he can get the occasional PH.
(this isn’t saying he has more power, just has been productive)
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 7:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Vegas has the Cards
personally, I feel like there going to kick our ass. New stadium, big crowd, Albert Pujols.
Maybe the yankees tired them out….......NOT
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 16, 2008 7:45 PM EDT reply actions
More like the Pirates tired us out
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I think it should be a pretty even matchup
hopefully the Pirates just took us off guard (at least we won’t make some of the same mistakes)
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 7:47 PM EDT up reply actions
well we carried the lead/got the lead into the 8th all three games with one to write home about.
can blame it on various things, but for 21-24 innings we absolutely beat down the pirates, only to watch them walk over us late.
it felt like the old rocky movies, where we threaten and beat up on them, only to lose everything late.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 7:57 PM EDT up reply actions
vegas has the cards
because we’re the home team, we match up well on paper. so we’re getting the slight favorite due to being home and our success we’ve carried. nothing else.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions
Maybe the absent DH will panic there pitching.
Philly is kicking Toronto’s ass.
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 16, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions
they’re a young team, but they’re built the way they are to grind into weaknesses in the large cash division they’re in. this year it’s coming together on that process.
but I don’t know how well they’ll fair in interleague ball, but I have to say that they’re more NL than we are AL. They may do quite well with it
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 7:59 PM EDT up reply actions
plus wouldn't probabilities dictate
that since we have been losing more lately, we’d regress back to the mean
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah
they would, by all indications, but from a vegas point of view it’s on a game by game basis, and the matchups at hand play more of a role. If the bet was based on play during all of May, it would be something else.
Every sport has a home field advantage in the market, basketball tends to have a 5 point addition to the spread assumed for home teams.
In this specific matchup, it’s fair to say that the teams are pretty balanced all in all and the slight edge would go to the home town team who has a solid record at home.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 8:08 PM EDT up reply actions
Rasmus to replace Duncan
Who will have been traded to the Giants to play first base as a left-handed hitting power bat
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My guess would be Mather
The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.
if our lefties
don’t get their shit together, I’d like to see the other Flores come around.
He has a K/BB rate better than Motte, or Perez and even Worrell. Hell his whip is .99 at the moment and while he’s had a couple of games off cue, everything else looks fine. Can do the one out approach, or two innings. For lefties, I like’m
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 8:04 PM EDT up reply actions
I was just kidding
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That pic makes looper look like
Jason Statham
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
holy crap
almost on franklin #3. I ate a lot today too, i’m going to explode
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions
You might not wanna explode until
after the debut of Overlord
The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.
well
I can always go get more franklins
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions
wont that speed up the explosion?
The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.
franklins?
OK, so I’m going to show how much of a newbie I am. Where did the Franklin thing come from?
Watch him pitch
you’ll want a beer
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From a glance
just under 3
giving up 7 in 3 innings really skews what he’s done this year, but the last 2 games he’s given up 4, but in a much longer stint.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 8:28 PM EDT up reply actions
that worked out well, but
he threw a lot of pitches
hopefully, he can improve on that soon
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
had a statham swagger
as he left the mound
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
it will be really interesting to see how Tony uses the bullpen tonight
well, maybe “interesting” isn’t the most appropriate word
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
I don't know
but I’m pretty excited to see how he does
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 8:26 PM EDT up reply actions
dunc jr.
should renew the goat curse on the cubbies with that pic
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply actions
Duncan having a good game is...
bittersweet yeah I like to see him get hits and rbi but it also means we see him the next day.
BOOOOOO Izzy...yeah I said it. BOOOO Izzy
the strike zone on Gameday tonight looks pretty inconsistent
how does it look on TV?
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
not too bad,
but hes started giving the corners and you know how that can be..that said i only saw one pitch to skip that probably was a ball
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
I'd rather get the corners now and adjust
than them get added in the 8th.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions
true
just saying it can be hard to be consistent when doing it
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
Let's optimistically assume the Cards will win tonight...
Anyone want to venture a pick for player of the game?
My pick is Glaus.
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
Mine would be looper.
Rick, Albert and Glaus are all odds on for the BAMF award though.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions
I am going with Duncan as a darkhorse
seeing as he has already struck out
The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.
Although that wasn't a successful 1st inning
I am sooooo excited for this series. I was living in Tampa their Inagural season. Granted I was only 8, but they’ve always kinda been a team I root for. I remember watching them play with Wade Boggs at 3rd, Fred McGriff at 1st and Canseco in RF. Boy, were those days awesome as a kid. It truly is nice to see this Rays team FINALLY come around, and it’d be even nicer to see us beat such a successful, up and coming AL East team.
by Pujols Is A God on May 16, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions
This pitcher is someone Ankiel short swing should torch
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 16, 2008 8:36 PM EDT reply actions
Izzy is on the DL for a cut on his hand....
they’re worried about infection? No iodine in the clubhouse…..not that im complaining
BOOOOOO Izzy...yeah I said it. BOOOO Izzy
probably a creative way
to get him outta the bullpen for now
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions
You have to show cause to use the DL.
Lets hope he recovers to live a full life.
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 16, 2008 8:42 PM EDT up reply actions
like washing your car and getting hurt
or tripping over your dog, or sneezing, you know really good ones
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
The league can call you on it if they want.
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 16, 2008 8:44 PM EDT up reply actions
when in all of his postgame talk after a collapse is stating he’s healthy, the easier way to get him out is to take the cut he does have, and use it as a means for dl. I would imagine.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions
at least it wasnt a sneeze
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
How many times do I have to tell you guys
It’s the suckitis. You just can’t say that to the media.
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+1
Getting ready to say just that
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My First
post on this site was in a “look for infield thread” and I mentioned Uggla since he’ll be heading FA’s way.
He’s got another homerun today. Jeez that slow start looks like it was years ago with his May game.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 8:43 PM EDT reply actions
uggla won't be a free agent
until 2012, unless the Marlins decide not to offer arbitration.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
ah, indeed
maybe my post was the fact that he was cost controlled, too many posts ago.
just nice to see him starting to beat the hell out of the ball
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions
i still wish they would
have gone after him last yr
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
wow i did not know that
benes was in the system again(not as a player). I liked him remeber when they had him
arocha and D osborne
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
everytime dan/al say Izzy or Silent George...DRINK
lets get crunked
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
not that i drink but if you're into that
troy percival
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
this game keeps giving more
a joe magrane ref
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
heh
I have a Joe Magrane rookie card worth 2.5 cents
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions
Umm, decimal error?
Shouldn’t that be…..
.25 cents? :P
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it could have been a joke
man what is with the grammar punctuation etc police?
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
heh
I think I started it, but I got the joke
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 8:53 PM EDT up reply actions
Mine was supposed to be a joke too
.25 cents = $0.0025
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Yours was the joke I got
was there another?
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 8:57 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm so confused
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man i LOVED joe magrane
i thought he was gonna be the next “best pitcher in the world” when I was 10.
is that really all his rookie card is worth?
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
I have no idea
but baseball cards aren’t really worth that much anymore I’m guessing. I thought he was the shiznit too when I was a young teenager
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions
i have a Arod electric diamond RC
that was about 60 last i checked…not worth as much as magrane
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
I had no idea
the Rays pitchers were the best hitting in the AL
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions
come on, Looper
the pitcher in now hitting 1.000
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
The AL pitcher in his first AB of the season
Gets a hit. What the hell.
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throw it low Loop
throw it low
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions
big inning...come on loop'a'doop...bring your green hat
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
$99.99 for Cardinals Care
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that's what we get after allowing a leadoff single to an AL pitcher in his first AB
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
well for what its worth,
Izturis should have caught that ball. woulda been a tough play but it did go off his glove.
Thank God for the DP
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That's my chopper you thrashed, broseph!!
That’s how I roll
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lol
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 9:02 PM EDT up reply actions
everyone for Tampa Bay with more than one AB already has a hit
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
that last inning looked loike the Cardinals having a big inning
BOOOOOO Izzy...yeah I said it. BOOOO Izzy
i was thinking the same thing
slappin singles, getting the pitcher on.
It’s us from the AL.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank God Braden can hit
cause tonight, he sure can’t pitch.
by Hardcore Legend on May 16, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions
At least it ain't Izzy pitching
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I can think of a few
times where he’s struggled, pulled through it and gave us a nice showing. only 2 innings in and beaten by bloops and slaps
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
way to go, Looper!
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
wow
Loop is still better than their pitcher at hitting
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions
Eat it bitch
That’s what Cesar says to you
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I hope you're right
Or at least I hope tonight’s MVP is wearing Birds on the Bat
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It reminds me of
Mr. Burns pinch-hitting Homer for Darryl Strawberry just because of the righty-lefty matchup.
“It’s called playing the percentages. It’s what good managers do!”
by Andyfantastic on May 16, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions
where oh where has DUNK's power gone?
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GJ, skip
that’s one way to cut down on the LOB stat.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
Indeed
Kinda reminds me of something
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Ha
Thats much better than what I saw this past February. I was in New York and saw Monty Python’s Spamalot. Had to deal with the flambouyant Clay Aiken singing that song multiple times over the course of 3 hours.
by Pujols Is A God on May 16, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions
Flamboyant Clay Aiken
That’s pretty redundant, don’t ya think lol ;)
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Damn it Skip
You are in some kind of funk
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After the first two batters see a ton of pitches each to get on
Shu & Dunc kill us with 1st pitch swings?
by Pujols Is A God on May 16, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions
Forget about the duncan debate
why isn’t luddy in for Shu? or barton for that matter. He’s been ice cold for 15 games or so
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply actions
I'm trying to remember the last time I saw
Schumaker hit it the other way.
It seemed like he was doing that back when he was hitting better
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
he also
seen a lot more pitches when he was.
I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang
by AdjustedExpectations on May 16, 2008 9:08 PM EDT up reply actions
thats the third IZZY commercial i've seen tonight
on FSN Midwest. what are they trying to say?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
neither should be in the line up
We have better players for both positions
I'd have to say
you’re right
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions
TLR will figure that out
around august, i imagine.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
wow
we’re sure good at leaving people on base
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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply actions
But it makes big money in Chi/NY/LA
So we’re stuck with it
by Andyfantastic on May 16, 2008 9:12 PM EDT up reply actions
it makes the All Star game meaningless...
and takes away division series
BOOOOOO Izzy...yeah I said it. BOOOO Izzy
I hate the unbalanced schedule a lot more than interleague
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
i wouldn't mind interleague
if everyone in the same division played the same interleague teams every year.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
Yeah
the ‘rivarly’ component to the thing is kind of stupid. Espeically when you get things like the Red Sox squaring off against their ancient enemy, the Braves
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Boston (old) vs. Boston (still old, but still there)
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Not saying it makes it right
But just being devil’s advocate, I guess
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no, i'm against all of it
it’s just turned into a money maker for the cities with two teams & nothing more.
it needs to go away.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
it helps teams like KC
cuz cardinals fans go to games there.
I’m mostly just annoyed because the cubs play a very weak interleague schedule this year IIRC, and ours is stacked. And we’ve played the damned tigers something like 8 years in a row.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
yeah, but I still say that it skews things less
than the damn unbalanced schedule. You want to have an unbalanced schedule? Get rid of the damn wild card.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
i like interleague
and wish the cards would shake their teams up more…like i thought they were doing divisions for a bit like al west vs nl east or whatever..was hoping id see NL central vs AL West..so i could see the birds in seattle, but they play teasm like KC and detroit alot
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
It all started with Selig
wanting to try to realign the divisions. It is stupid the AL has a distinct advantage with the DH. They get guys who can hit but can’t field let them sit on the bench and hit 4-5 times a game. The NL has to use someone who is in there for both D and O mainly someone who can hit off the bench. This is also glaring in the WS when you have a guy like Ortiz who gets 500 ABs in a season vs. someone from the NL who’s normaly a bench player and gets maybe 200 ABs in a season. i get so sick of people saying the AL is better. The NL is just real baseball
BOOOOOO Izzy...yeah I said it. BOOOO Izzy
For the NL
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
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yeah
interleague play does suck
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:16 PM EDT up reply actions
How come I like their hitters more
than ours. I like there reactions, swing planes, pitch selection…......Do we have a hitting coach of any interest?
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 16, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply actions
we've both won 24 games...
of course, it’s not looking good for us tonight.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
uh, oh. Looper's over 70 pitches now
I wonder if Tony’s going to pull a Piniero
;-)
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
if he gives up another hit here,
I hope he does pull him
patience is running thin
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
+1
how the hell is he hitting it? I think he’s out to prove something…
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions
LOOP outta be ashamed of himself
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
Aight fellas I'm out
Going drankin’
Maybe some fightin’
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
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Back at ya my friend
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
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why the hell did kennedy cut that off?
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
why do dan and al sound so shocked
that the rag tag rotation is getting stressed?
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
the good news is
we’ll almost certainly see perez.
The bad news is, he might have to pitch 4 innings.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
Well, the bright side of Looper already throwing 87 pitches
is that maybe we’ll actually get to see Perez pitch tonight!
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
i'm so sick
of these middle of the pack, and sometimes flat out terrible pitchers shutting the Cards down.
there’s no excuse for it. the guy has a 5+ ERA for cripes sake!
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
He isn't terrible, we are.
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 16, 2008 9:26 PM EDT up reply actions
we are making this guy look like cy young
its like we are geared up for a 95 mph fastball and it is coming at about 87
thanks to the DRays for having an infielder playing the out field
but YADDA strands Troy there. never mind.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
triple Santa
all for naught
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions
yes, they are disgusting
it takes all the pressure off the pitcher
I wonder what our BA is on balls put in play on first pitch swinging
anyone know how to find out?
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
the team's OPS on first pitch is something like 1.100
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
that's misleading
that’s an OPS for pitch swings with contact – not first pitch swings . You would have to compare that to OPS for batted balls.
Terrible hitting by
molina, I am so tired of them swinging at the first fucking pitch
Losing is a disease
Maybe Glaus is a buzzard?
He didn’t come around until we died…....
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 16, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions
or maybe he's doing the best he can
like everyone else out there?
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
Sorry Sleepy !!
This isn’t a special ed class is it?
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 16, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions
when the offense was actually performing at the beginning
of the season, the entire lineup was a whole lot more patient. they are all out in front, off balance, not taking any pitches.
It is crazy cus we are really patient
until we get runners in scoring position and then we swing at everything
Losing is a disease
so true...
What causes that though? Inexperience? Pressing? Lack of any discernible talent?? It is really frustrating.
hero syndrome
It’s the, “Okay, I’m the man here. I’ve gotta get it done right now” attitude.
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
what good is being patient
if you are not patient when it matters?
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions
true, but sounds like a fortune cookie
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
i think Looper's done now
we can’t afford to give them any more runs
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
they better get back to winning quick
the board is getting testy
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
It's not as much the lack of winning
as the lack of playing well
we’re all tired of seeing concentration lapses and poor play
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
to me thats coaching is it not?
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
why is that "unfortuanate"?
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
those muvs better turn that shit around
I’m tellin ya
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions
have you seen Looper tonight?
I haven’t. I only have Gameday. :)
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
isn't the reason why he's playing
is not to do that?
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions
they ruled it a hit....
but thats the second ball that’s eaten him up tonight
BOOOOOO Izzy...yeah I said it. BOOOO Izzy
no freaking way was that a hit
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
LaRussa
And his “Veteran Bias” must be the official scorer tonight. Refusing to give the experienced player an error.
by Pujols Is A God on May 16, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
on the radio
they keep saying anytime the cards turn a DP someone donates $99.99 to something
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions
Thank you Looper
Way to minimize the damage tonight. Could be a hella lot worse. Let’s get this offense going now.
by Pujols Is A God on May 16, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions
Agreed
Looper doesn’t have his stuff (it’s a night game) but he’s stuck through it to keep us close.
Plus it’s not like our bullpen is a better option.
Good call on the Night Game
Someones been studying their Splits…
by Pujols Is A God on May 16, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions
You would think Looper is done?
But I bet he isn’t….....there sheltering K-Mac …...there isn’t much else
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 16, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions
I wouldn't call him an idiot
but he is a lawyer
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions
hey, at least LOOP got a hit
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
I'm just a CAVEMAN
that got thawed out of ice and later went to law school. After graduating law school, I was instructed to manage a baseball team. Modern sports confuse and terrify me. Sometimes, when the umpire asks for my lineup card, I just want to tear off my jersey and run into the stands naked, stealing some bats so that I can later make a fire out of them.
But there’s one thing that I DO know: every baseball game must contain no less than five pitching changes.
They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...
Pinch runner....
Use Barton maybe steal a base and put the preasure on the pitcher
BOOOOOO Izzy...yeah I said it. BOOOO Izzy
dan and al mentioned TLR
pulling him to the side probably saying”we need u to go deeper”
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
man
Looper and the other guy are having a hitting duel
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions
pops up three in a row.......nice adjustment
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 16, 2008 9:42 PM EDT reply actions
SCORE SOME F'ING RUNS!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:43 PM EDT reply actions
THAT LAST PITCH WAS WAY OUTSIDE UMPIRE!
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions
anther L O B
that stat will be their undoing.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
god i hate human umpires
that blown call on 1-1 totally changed the course of Schu’s at bat.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
just logged
in, but i’m excited about troy glaus right now. he’s been hitting the ball hard, looked like a pro at the plate for his triple. a glaus tear obviously does a lot for this offense.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on May 16, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions
thanks
I needed that
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
and by look like a pro
i mean look like an all-star
by infallibleopiniongenerator on May 16, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions
he'll need to get a lot more rbis
to be an all-star
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:46 PM EDT up reply actions
we need to break out of this
annoying slump
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions
Wow
Pitchers have adjusted to Shu’s early success. They are working him outside. And up til that last swing… Making him roll over and groundout. Kid has gotta go back to shooting the ball to the opposite field.
by Pujols Is A God on May 16, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions
that was on the umpire
he called a pitch 6 inches outside and high a strike, forcing schu to expand the zone on a high fastball.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
he did it in the frist at at of the game
for skip too high and up
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
i'm happy for schumaker
and his early success. But I think at this point his role is too large. Time to downgrade him to fourth outfielder/defensive replacement. I’d even be ok with him coming in in the 5/6 inning to spell Duncan if we could exchange a portion of our middle infielder bounty for, say, Joe Mather, or someone else capable of lofting the ball over the fence when they pinch hit in a crucial spot.
by infallibleopiniongenerator on May 16, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Okay... I'll cut him slack on that
But that can’t be the excuse for his “slump” over the past week or two. I like Skippy… But he’s still got much to improve on. And I think he will.
by Pujols Is A God on May 16, 2008 9:49 PM EDT reply actions
yeah
so Looper can outhit him
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions
yeah, he's playing the VEB drinking game
"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"
it is Friday night
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:51 PM EDT up reply actions
i've actually switched over
to the FSN Florida feed. he’s really getting on my nerves tonight.
Joe cracks me up.
and wouldn’t you know it, they are actually talking about the game.
i for one, and shocked.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
how is magrane and stats?
I saw that announcing duo and it was like an “I love the 80s” flashback for me.
really good actually.
i’ve watched them a lot before. Joe can be an ass sometimes (shocking i know!)
but they both know their stuff.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
yes tony
puts the new pitchers in postitions to succeed..with guys on already down
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
he should go straight to being the closer
imo
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions
they were
saying that he puts new guys in right away, btu to me like with parisi(sp?) he throws em in tight spots, but he let loop finish it
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
isn't that a point of a reliever?
I don’t get the complaint – it used to be Tony got yelled at for never putting young pitchers in pressure situations.
im just saying
your first day up and you come out and in a crucial situation, then if you struggle you may be done..didnt happen this time. to me with a yung guy put em in at start of an inning or something, or up big
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
yep.
tow innings ago i didn’t think he had it in him.
nice job LOOP.
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
for some reason
this game is making me smoke a lot of cigs
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:53 PM EDT reply actions
he did better than I thought
way to hang in there, Loop
My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!
so yeah, there's an overflow thread up
don’t think we need to go there, but it’s up. Larry thought there’d be 8 LOB by now… doh!
GJ, loopy.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
i think we do
the page is getting really slow & choppy for me
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
yup, he's on the hook for a tough luck loss
quality start and no joy, unless something remarkable happens.
We do have our 4 good hitters coming up this inning…
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
they give the pitcher a two out delayed bunt sign
and he gets it down…............Kennedy gets the sign, and with no pitcher resistance, strikes out yesterday????????
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 16, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions
Duncy
got another hit!
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:56 PM EDT reply actions
cmon
albert
get on base
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:57 PM EDT reply actions
why does looper
have 1/3 of our hits?
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply actions
he's batting .438
heh
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 10:02 PM EDT up reply actions
sure could you a 3 run jack right about now
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
let me try that again
we sure could use a 3 run jack right about now uh YADDA?
I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!
you guys are killing me
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 10:03 PM EDT up reply actions
Old Mc Donald had a farm eee i ee i o
on that farm he had a Cardinal eee ie eee i oooo.
with a single single here and single single there here a single there a single everywhere a single single
BOOOOOO Izzy...yeah I said it. BOOOO Izzy
Holy crap
Anybody realize that this kid has thrown 81 pitches through 6 innings. And only 18 balls Thats a 3.5:1 ratios of strikes to balls.
by Pujols Is A God on May 16, 2008 10:05 PM EDT reply actions
that was the most pathetic half-inning of baseball
i have ever seen in my life.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
nice
Perez might be the new savior
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
Nice debut
Like what I see. I can tell he’ll give up his share of walks though.
by cloistermaximus on May 16, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions
now if we can only get some clutch hitting...
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 10:20 PM EDT up reply actions
time to meet some folks and drink some franklins
maybe me leaving will bring home a winner
Later
BOOOOOO Izzy...yeah I said it. BOOOO Izzy
hope so man
hope so
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 10:21 PM EDT up reply actions
Let's go offense
This kid has gotta be getting tired. TIme for the top of our lineup to do some damage.
by Pujols Is A God on May 16, 2008 10:27 PM EDT reply actions
wow
Skip is sure trending down
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions
barring extra innings
of course
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions
that calls for #6
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions
radio is going off
metal is going on
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 10:34 PM EDT up reply actions
great
now we get percival
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 10:43 PM EDT reply actions
better luck next time guys
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 16, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions
Boy... This placed cleared out quickly
Oh well… Another chance tomorrow
by Pujols Is A God on May 16, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions
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