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zotz 'em inside. catch the damn ball. score some more runs. c'mon, let's beat these bums and go pound the budweiser.

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edmonds

anyone know what number he’s wearing?

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 15, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

15

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 15, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

15

"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~8-year-old Greg

by ChiTown CardFan on May 15, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Coincidence?

Is it me or was it weird that we gave up 3 runs after Edmonds got his first basehit for the Cubs?

by dralexp on May 15, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's not you...

is it also coincidence that it’s a rainy, dreary day in StL when Edmonds first plays for the Cubs? I think not.

"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert

by BigMOman on May 15, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but we survived.

We’re going to be ok, i think.

Was there thunder in the background when it happened, like in the movies?

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 15, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

jo-el

???

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 15, 2008 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

crap. that was close.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 15, 2008 2:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

WHEW

Alright…bring on the rain.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

COME ON RAIN!

I have a bad feeling about this one

Proud President of the Unofficial Skip Schumaker Fan Club!
(now accepting applications)

PUT SKIP ON THE BALLOT!!!

by stltrav09 on May 15, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

rain. rain. rain.

crazy dancing ooga ooga.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 15, 2008 2:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

need more ooga ooga

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 15, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ok.

ooga ooga ooga ooga and some cowbell.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 15, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sweet

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 15, 2008 2:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i have a fever

and the only cure is more cow bell

"Textbooks are Soviet propaganda" - Rev. Jerry Falwell

by elirock83 on May 15, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ball Four

Perhaps the first baseball blog.

by liam on May 15, 2008 2:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hits

Were they hitting him hard all the sudden? Little bleeders?

by paposse on May 15, 2008 2:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We'd snagged a bunch of liners all day.

They got over heads that inning.

by liam on May 15, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pineiro out

Only 70 some pitches. TLR not pleased must be.

by paposse on May 15, 2008 2:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Starting pitcher only gives us 4IP

DRINK

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

joel went 5 right?

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 15, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoops

Yeah. Okay, don’t drink.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I drank already...

and I dont wanna give it back

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 15, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You may be giving it back

with the Cards’ bullpen getting work already.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this drinking game is turning into something pretty bad.

I’m concerned that St. Louis is going to take a pretty big hit. News Anchor- “The city of St. Louis lost 255 million dollars after the Cardinals strand 30 players in a 10 inning game. No word as of why this happened, but a drinking game is cited as a possible reason.”

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

how would the city lose money?

just wondering…

"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert

by BigMOman on May 15, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

loss of workers.

If people are wastyfaced., they can’t work.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well,

they can’t work as WELL, usually.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they would buy lots of alcohol though...

boost some businesses, like that dude in the chicken suit. “cheap cheap, fun fun”

"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert

by BigMOman on May 15, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Remember kids-

The more she drinks, the better you look. God, what a horrible tagline.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah.

but he can still get the win.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 15, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's playing the rain

Proud President of the Unofficial Skip Schumaker Fan Club!
(now accepting applications)

PUT SKIP ON THE BALLOT!!!

by stltrav09 on May 15, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The book is out on Barton

he’s getting all fastballs

Proud President of the Unofficial Skip Schumaker Fan Club!
(now accepting applications)

PUT SKIP ON THE BALLOT!!!

by stltrav09 on May 15, 2008 2:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dready stizzle!

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 15, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why does snoop dogg use an umbrella?

fo drizzle

I’m sorry, LB please don’t ban me!

"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert

by BigMOman on May 15, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Some goodnews

LA is whooping on the brew, at least the 3 for 4 series didn’t jump start them any

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 2:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Hmm

That game was 0-0 in the 6th. Did they bring Gagne in already?

by paposse on May 15, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

home runs off of Sheets in the same inning, from Andruw Jones, Jeff Kent and Gary Bennett!

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 15, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and the royals

could sweep the Tigers for the second time in a row.. lol, wow.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

There's a Gary Bennett sighting!

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

gary bennett?????

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 15, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I thought Gary Bennett only hit homers off of the Cubs

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 15, 2008 3:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Game day off

or is K-Mac getting some shit ball calls?

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

shit calls back to having shitty HP umps

they’re working on the mound right now. Take your time boys

by poohrat on May 15, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Laying down

some drying agent, turn the mud into dirt again.

by liam on May 15, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the dirt is....

getting tacky and it effecting the landing area of the pitchers. the put some drying agent down and raked it out

by poohrat on May 15, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sometimes baseball

is really funny. NFL plays in the rain, but when a bit of dirt turns into mud in baseball, HOLD THE PHONE. We need drying agent, or the pitcher may not land well.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 3:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

for that reason

I mock baseball, even though it is one of my favorite games. Wussies.

"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert

by BigMOman on May 15, 2008 3:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

have you ever tried playing baseball in the rain?

Football/Soccer is fun in the rain, baseball not so much. football/soccer is played on all grass and running in mud is just pointless.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 15, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agreed.

NFL QBs have a week to get over pulled muscles. MLB pitchers have 1-4 days.

by spants on May 15, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that

And they aren’t bring thier leg down from above thier head.

by Evilfrog on May 15, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and they have people

trying to hit them as hard as they can every play, and they usually get slammed to the ground 2-5 times per game by a 300 lb defensive lineman…

Seriously, are you implying QBs are softies?

"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert

by BigMOman on May 15, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

my roommate

just drank irish car bombs all the time… never heard him talk about eating dead…

"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert

by BigMOman on May 15, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Knew many rugby players in college

and the phrase “drink all the time” applied quite well…

by TBender on May 15, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

True that

Those guys scared the bejeezus out of liquor store clerks and chinese buffet owners.

by TBender on May 15, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well it definatly eases it......

makes the women look better too

by poohrat on May 15, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we work on speed and endurance in practice....

plus im quite agile…...running is always the best policy in the morning and if done correctly she would not have my real name…or where i live…or what i drive

by poohrat on May 15, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol.

Note to self…do not “know” poohrat.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah, one of those.

My roommate in college was the captain of the rugby team, he bashed on football all the time. I think you guys are just jealous that football is so much more popular in this country. :-)

"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert

by BigMOman on May 15, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no im from the states actually learned.....

how to play football in Texas. After playing rugby you start to hate the specialization of football and the lack of continuity oin the game. I especially hate the commericals…...and we only eat the ones we didnt like we send floating wooden barges down the river and light it on fire for our heros that die

by poohrat on May 15, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no

Im implying that they arent landing from a hill on a foot that was above thier head with all of their weight.

by Evilfrog on May 15, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

which is somehow more physically punishing

than getting thrown to the ground by a 300 pound man? I’m not buying it. I’m not saying that they can’t/shouldn’t get injured, I’m saying that saying that it’s not as difficult/punishing as football

"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert

by BigMOman on May 15, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

...have you ever tried to pitch in the mud?

I honestly doubt it if you think it’s easy to do.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 15, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

never said it was easy

never said that they shouldn’t put drying agent on the mound, never said most of these things that you guys are defending.

what I’m saying is that a pitcher is not required to be as tough as an NFL quarterback, 6 days off or 4, mud or dirt, sun or rain.

"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert

by BigMOman on May 15, 2008 3:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And

what everyone else is saying is that it isn’t about toughness. It’s about the ability to repeat the delivery safely and effectively and the difficulty that a mound of mud presents when trying to do that.

by spants on May 15, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

NFL QBs have a week to get over pulled muscles. MLB pitchers have 1-4 days.

and


And they aren’t bring thier leg down from above thier head.

these are the comments to which I was responding. I took these comment as saying “yeah, everyone says NFL QBs are so tough, but THEY don’t have to play as often/land on their leg”

I think it was reasonable to read into that statement an implication that NFL QBs are somehow weaker/less vulnerable than MLB pitchers, which is the point I tried (unsuccessfully, evidently) to refute.

"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert

by BigMOman on May 15, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I

said that because a simple pulled muscle can tweak an MLB pitcher’s performance in a way that it won’t with a QB. QBs play with broken fingers and thumbs; they are tough. MLB pitchers are “tough” too, I’m sure, but toughness isn’t really what the job requires.

by spants on May 15, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

misunderstanding

maybe what they say about “7% of communication is verbal” is true? haha..

"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert

by BigMOman on May 15, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

but their targets are a little bigger than an MLB pitchers. And I’m assuming a QBs throwing mechanics are simpler. The bottom line is that if a pitcher starts compensating, they can throw off their mechanics, leading to injury or fat pitches.

If a QB tweaks a muscle because his foot didn’t plant, he’ll get over it. An MLB player can turn that into a nagging, over-compensating injury.

by spants on May 15, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+

the fact that nfl (at least starts) with all players on the grass, the mound and what the pitcher is doing has no true comparison in nfl.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agreed.

I just can’t think of any other professional sport that worries so much about weather. Or, even the occasional bug.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Apples and oranges

Baseball has the most regular season games of any professional sport. It’s a marathon, not a sprint.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Recommended summer reading

The Meaning of Sports, by Michael Mandelbaum. Baseball is a pastoral sport, harkening back to our agrarian past…

by liam on May 15, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nice. I'll look it up.

I’m going to be on a 26 hour flight on Tuesday, so I do need some new literature.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

china, or aussie?

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Sweet

Done the aussie trip quite a few times, that trip can be harsh. Props to Quantas and Air Canada though, make it bearable.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

26 hours!

Better pick up Pitching around Fidel. Really underappreciated book.

And if you haven’t read Ball Four, referenced by Larry in this overflow thread, it’s a classic easy read.

by liam on May 15, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That last one sure was

K-Mac has some wicked tailing-in action on his fastball.

by liam on May 15, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yup

but so was that…

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on May 15, 2008 3:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

YES

That could’ve been disastrous.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

let me check this just one more time....

am i dreaming? or is Jim Edmonds playing for the Chicago Cubs?

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 15, 2008 3:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's not a dream.

It’s a nightmare.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We need runs

I don’t trust the pen when the weather is perfect, let alone during this

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ahahaha Shannon interviewed chris moneymaker

and he said he had a “knack” for poker….he’s the biggest donkey walking god’s green earth.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 15, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

AK with a webgem there

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 15, 2008 3:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Jiminy jillickers...

Shannon is STILL talking about his garden. I want to know what his “special fertilizer” is…

by mattisnotfrench on May 15, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

on second thought

maybe we don’t wanna know

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Well

at least Flores can’t allow any inherited runners to score.

by spants on May 15, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

i was going to post the same thing

“this time, the ERA is on you, kid”

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 3:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've been watching the radar

This one isn’t getting rained out. The heavy rain is to the north. I doubt if we’ll see anything stronger than what is currently falling.

by Evilfrog on May 15, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well then

we gotta hold ‘em and crank some homers

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Comeon Flores

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

edmonds

i’m crushed…it’s weird his first game for the cubs is against the team that just cut him…think busch will boo him when he comes to st. louis

by VolsnCards5 on May 15, 2008 3:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd say he'll have a tempered response.

I don’t see our fan base booing, though we all know we want to.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 3:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That being said, he won’t earn the cheers I’d almost bet he would have gotten when he was with the pads

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

edmonds.

i wonder what it is like, to sell part of your soul for baseball.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 15, 2008 3:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Just hope he

finds out what september slumber is all about. Maybe we can send post cards in Oct.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the thing that pisses me off

is that you know part of the reasons the cubs did it was to screw with our heads

by VolsnCards5 on May 15, 2008 3:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Personally

I think he’s chasing a ring and on paper they seem to be a contender. Which is why I also think he was so willing to go to the Pads in the off season.

I don’t see him leaving if we had a reasonable chance for Oct play, but that’s just me.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's a job

to him. He’s not a Cardinal fan. He’s a professional.

by spants on May 15, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no loyalty

when money is on the line

by VolsnCards5 on May 15, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not doing it for the money.

I doubt if he needs the extra ~ $250,000.

by Evilfrog on May 15, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

- money + ring

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He did say

his years in St. Louis were the best in his life. For what it’s worth.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 3:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its baseball

its his life, play as long as you can till no one wants you anymore

the cards got rid of him, he didnt get rid of the cards

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 15, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

umm

he told them to trade him when he was told that he would have a diminished role in our OF.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 15, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

compared to the hell he got with the Angels

I can see why, one team bashes your excellent plays, the other cheers. That’s all he has to base on so far

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It was hard enough

to see him leave the cards, I do not think this will ever sink in

Losing is a disease

by ANDYAK47 on May 15, 2008 3:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

good throw brendan

i thought that was a base hit

by VolsnCards5 on May 15, 2008 3:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

exhale...

Are they trying to see if they can leave more men on base than Us. Because if they are. It’s on.

by Evilfrog on May 15, 2008 3:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I noticed

the Birds have been stuck on 8 for a while.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 3:37 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

don't wanna hear about Edmonds right now

I think we’ve exhausted the subjuct

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 3:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm in "bullpen" denial

If I ignore it they’ll succeed (crosses fingers)

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah

right after I typed that, I realized there’s not a whole lot else going on right now

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 3:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Random question

has Bonds been signed yet? And if not, why not?

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 3:40 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Random answer

No. He eats children.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hmmm.
  • I don’t like the guy, I just think it’s strange no one has picked him up.* ***

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no team....

wants the baggage of a fedral trial…..that and he’s probably going to be in jail soon

by poohrat on May 15, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I bet he'll need a

Bail BONDSman (please don’t throw the tomatoes.)

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thats a good one....

im sure the chineese will apreciate that kind of humor

by poohrat on May 15, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB is in clensing mode

And while others are around the ‘roids issue, the situation with the federal gov doesn’t help his cause

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Gluas

I bet he wishes every series was Bucco series.

by Evilfrog on May 15, 2008 3:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Great Eye Glaus

after that first strike, glad he kept watching, they were close

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 3:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Will Bonds get to choose his inmate number? Can it be the same as his jersey?

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on May 15, 2008 3:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

too bad....

Alcatraz isnt still open he could be close to home

by poohrat on May 15, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Glaus is seein it well.

laying off pitches that are barely out of the zone.

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by stltrav09 on May 15, 2008 3:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe he sees better in the rain

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 15, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It somehow

negates his watery eyes.

by spants on May 15, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2 on, no out.

Get. Some. Runs.

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 3:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I would soooo bunt with AK here.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on May 15, 2008 3:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bunt 'em over, then put Studwick in.

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on May 15, 2008 3:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lets see how on fire glaus really is

steal third

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Miles is on deck

if you bring in Ludwick, they just walk him.

Ok AK is out.. now bring in Lud

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by stltrav09 on May 15, 2008 3:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Edmonds v Rodriguez

This blows my mind:

J Edmonds will make $290K playing for the Cubs for the rest of the year.
A Rodriguez makes $173K per game.

by redbird2006 on May 15, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I know the Jimmy thing has been played to death...

but I have read enough…Here is a guy who blinked and his skills had left him and is doing anything he can to find a place to play…God knows if I had the skill to play pro ball they would have to drag me out kicking and screaming to get me out of a uniform. Get some perspective and quit acting like children.

Thanks, now back to the ball game.

by birdsonbat on May 15, 2008 3:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd be happy to

If he ever returns my calls…at 3 a.m….from outside his bedroom window…why, Jimmy? Whyyyyy?

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

OK, that was pathetic AK

Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.

by Eckstreem on May 15, 2008 3:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

too many close games

not enough blow outs. c’mon cards, put this offense together (doesn’t help that TLR keeps shuffling the deck)

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 3:49 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Double switch

Brings in the next pitcher, and leaves Miles in to play short

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by Mr Redbird on May 15, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

10 LOB.....

last 16 innings 25 LOB

by poohrat on May 15, 2008 3:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Drink!

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that will happen

when you get 26 hits

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by stltrav09 on May 15, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow

this LOB shit is gonna drive all of us to an early grave.

by gossard56 on May 15, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

gotta love that MI crew

1st & 2nd no outs…3 MI later…1st & 2nd 3 outs….nice

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by nomar34 on May 15, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ya, brilliant pinch hit option

lets pinch hit the no talent Slappy McSlap Slap

by gossard56 on May 15, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Izzy time? In the 8th?

This is a weird feeling

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by Mr Redbird on May 15, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

it's like he was unofficially retired

and brought back a couple of days later

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bah

Having a non-pitcher bunting with 2 strikes is pretty dumb

by mikedallas45 on May 15, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yes

completely pathetic call

by gossard56 on May 15, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ouch, that hurts! I was wanting the bunt.

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by Eckstreem on May 15, 2008 3:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wonder what the leverage stats would say about that?

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by Eckstreem on May 15, 2008 3:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Izzy's

being brought in when it counts.

by spants on May 15, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Izzy's

being brought in when it counts.

by spants on May 15, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Don't

be rude. It sent twice for some reason.

by spants on May 15, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

See?

You repeat yourself, too. :)

by spants on May 15, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh

got me ;)

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh dear god

“We don’t trust Izzy to pitch the 9th but we’re going to have him pitch in a nearly identical leveraged situation.”

Because that makes sense.

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 15, 2008 3:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Why pitch

around Mick-tay-vich?

by spants on May 15, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

brilliant start

lull them into a false sense of security izzy…then drop the hammer

by VolsnCards5 on May 15, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not enough pressure,

I bet LaRussa told him to go out and walk the 1st batter.

by chicagocardfan on May 15, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

isn't he been on base every chance this game?

I mean, would you pitch around glaus? he’s got a similar number BA wise and only has 2 HR. Just saying, not disagreeing

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 3:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he shuts

them down quick in the 8th we can keep him in for the 9th!

by chicagocardfan on May 15, 2008 3:55 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Izzy scoffs in your face...

If we’re trying to keep pressure off him, this isn’t doing a very good job of that.

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 15, 2008 3:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anything besides the dude who openly admits his confidence is donezo

And the now 7+ ERA

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 15, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lets get a double play!

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by jodicards on May 15, 2008 3:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

TLR hates

Cardinals fans.

by spants on May 15, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oy.

It’s Izzy time alright…

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

GameDay...

had him throwing 3 curves in a row?.....really????

by Timbo02 on May 15, 2008 3:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yes,

thats the problem

by chicagocardfan on May 15, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think

Duncan’s got Izzy experimenting. Why do this in close games, though?

by spants on May 15, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

TLR trying to get Izzy back on track..

but I think one of his big problems is pitching in back-to-back games.

by ArkansasTravs on May 15, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

La Rusa breeds

cynicism…............

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 15, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

jesus

terrible bunt, and izzy bad through

FUCK

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 15, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

OMG

what in the hell was that

by VolsnCards5 on May 15, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Izzy blows a lead

CHUG

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I do not

understand this at all. Why bring fuck

Losing is a disease

by ANDYAK47 on May 15, 2008 3:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

haha

hahahahahahahahaha

by VolsnCards5 on May 15, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Dont boo Izzy

It’s not his fault he sucks.

Boo TLR for continuing to put him out there

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by stltrav09 on May 15, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

putting a guy

in there on back to back days with confidence and mechanical issues is not wise.

I agree

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The ball slipped

It could have happened to any pitcher

by saladdays on May 15, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

What happened?

gameday still hasn’t updated.

by spants on May 15, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bunt to move the runners over

Izzy tried to get the lead out at third, and the ball slipped and went into left field

by saladdays on May 15, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yet it always happens to him

It could be worse, you could be on fire.

by themanthemyth on May 15, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

thanks izzy

i didnt feel like having an easy end to this game either

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on May 15, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Finished

Izzy is finished. This young team cannot handle losing games like this.

by indakind on May 15, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

fuck me!!!!!!!!!

it sure seems we lead EVERY fucking game 5-1 and arent able to make it stand up.

by gossard56 on May 15, 2008 4:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

something's got to give

either hold ‘em or score more runs

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 4:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i love izzy

give up the long ball….get him out…tlr should be fired for this

by VolsnCards5 on May 15, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i hope this is a last straw

we need some fresh bullpen

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on May 15, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Izzy is making it easy...

To get rid of him. Seriously.

by redbird2006 on May 15, 2008 4:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Mo's chat

seemed to suggest that Perez is pretty much on standby

TLR may not have a choice

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

can ya’ll update? like.. details?

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

3 run jack to bay

after an run scoring error

by VolsnCards5 on May 15, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Izzy came in and gave up 4 runs.....

including a 3 run shot! nuff said

by poohrat on May 15, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

4 runs without an out

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on May 15, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Throwing error, then 3 run bomb

Izzy fielded a bunt, tried to get the lead runner at 3rd, made like a Tiger pitcher in the 06 series and threw the ball away, tied game. 3 run bomb to Jason Bay followed.

by Yellow Dog on May 15, 2008 4:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

make up an injury

and put Izzy on the DL and bring Perez up…AND DO IT ASAP!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by gossard56 on May 15, 2008 4:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wow

Overreaction aplenty on gameday thread

by saladdays on May 15, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Overreaction?

you do realize izzy just came in and gave up 4 runs without getting an out?

for like the 10th time this season

by bosman on May 15, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Rasmus or bust.

by Zoop on May 15, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Overreaction

If it was someone other than Izzy he would already be gone

by indakind on May 15, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What?

In the game, or from the team?

Disagree on both counts, but I don’t know which you mean.

by saladdays on May 15, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just got back from lunch

and it looks like things turned nasty in a hurry.

by effin fisk on May 15, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Jason F'ing Bay

Jesus, Izzy, are you kidding me?!

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by Mr Redbird on May 15, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Look at the positives

this makes changes inevitable…......

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 15, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

you'd think so

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by stltrav09 on May 15, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Wrong

This makes TLR not making changes all the more frustrating

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by Mr Redbird on May 15, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

Rasmus or bust.

by Zoop on May 15, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

These are games we're s'posed to win

if changes are to happen, fine. but do it, don’t look for more qualifications to do so

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that's what we said the last time.

You know, the one after which izzy tried to break his own hand so that TLR would stop putting him into games.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 15, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This is on

Tony wtf

Losing is a disease

by ANDYAK47 on May 15, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This is sickening.

I normally don’t bitch about this stuff. But come on!

by spants on May 15, 2008 4:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

can't believe he keeps pitching izzy

dude can’t put in as many innings any more

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 4:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

love it

people may be overreacting but this is absolutely terrible managing.

It could be worse, you could be on fire.

by themanthemyth on May 15, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We'd have a comfortable 1st place lead if not for izzy

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by stltrav09 on May 15, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'm just as mad at Izzy as everyone else

But we’d also have a comfortable 1st place lead if we didn’t leave 400 runners on base every game

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by Mr Redbird on May 15, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's just not true...

They leave a lot of runners because they have a high team OBP. The hitting with runners on is not that bad, it’s pretty much the middle of the pack.

OTOH, Izzy has pretty much singlehandedly lost what, 5 games now?

Start Ludwick

by DiscoJer on May 15, 2008 4:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And it's mid-May

I’d rather get through these hiccups now than in August.

by effin fisk on May 15, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Classic Izzy

I’m going to do something else that doesn’t involve my hair falling out in clumps. Go Cards.

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Even if

we’d scored more of those base runners, Izzy would still be single-handedly taking us out of this game. What a bummer.

by spants on May 15, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nobody is

overreacting, tony is an ass

Losing is a disease

by ANDYAK47 on May 15, 2008 4:04 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

*poisoning

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 15, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 4:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

are you fucking kidding or what???

you are normally the most pesamistic person on the planet and now you decide to defend Izzy?????

by gossard56 on May 15, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

he's being sarcastic

because of the comments the other day, don’t take it literal.

It’s funny

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

No

he got called out for doing what 10 other people are currently doing

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lboros

isn’t on VEB today, so he’s not here to call people out. People who have mentioned the overreactions have been freaked out on.

People: banging away on your keyboards to vent your frustrations isn’t what VEB is for. No one is happy with what just happened, but you’ve all got to chill out a bit.

by spants on May 15, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

it's sarcasm

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 15, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah I'm def feeling bad for Iz

Why does TLR do this to him…..

by redbirddude on May 15, 2008 4:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

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by stltrav09 on May 15, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

oh yea

this is definitely on larussa…but i really think after today…izzy is done

by VolsnCards5 on May 15, 2008 4:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its not TLR's fault

that Izzy sucks. Yes he probably should not put him in that situation but if he is going to be on the team then he has to be able to pitch in close games. Otherwise he should be cut or DL’d.

by indakind on May 15, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

This isn't Izzy's fault

even he knows he has no business pitching. He said it himself.

Screw Tony for putting him out there in this situation.

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by stltrav09 on May 15, 2008 4:05 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

especially after pitching last night

that was something to build on – now it’s been wasted

by cardsfaninmass on May 15, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tony couldn't hide the emotion on his face

which means “thats it, good bye friend”......

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 15, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

old habits die hard

but this is ridiculous

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 4:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey?.....

I know Izzy is just killing all of us here….BUT?...NINETEEN runners left on Base today according to gameday…..THAT is just a big a problem as Izzy in my opinion.

by Timbo02 on May 15, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

agreed....

I was shaking my head at that figure…but still ANOTHER 10?....man ..

by Timbo02 on May 15, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Villone?

WERE BRINGING IN VILLONE?

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yeah, Villone

will fix everything.

by spants on May 15, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

low leverage?

this doesn’t seem to qualify.

It could be worse, you could be on fire.

by themanthemyth on May 15, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

putting him in in the 8th with a one run lead

is the same as putting him to close the game. This is ridiculous. It hasn’t even been a week yet.

And yes, this thread is out of control . . .

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on May 15, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It was not a good outing

The results were good but his pitches were just as bad last night as they had been before. He got lucky that no one squared up his mistakes last night.

by indakind on May 15, 2008 4:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are right

they actually hit the ball a long way

by cardsfaninmass on May 15, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I just turned to the Gamecast for the first time in a couple minutes

And I just want to say – NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

by riotmute on May 15, 2008 4:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

So you think we will release izzy

is it feasible even?...i sure don’t want to, but its time to turn the page

by VolsnCards5 on May 15, 2008 4:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Won't release him

May ask him to go on the DL for suckitis or maybe even ask him to retire

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by Mr Redbird on May 15, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Suckitis?

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please

are you telling me that our bullpen is so taxed that you bring in a guy that admits he sucks right now in a situation where we are 3 outs away from winning a game and then leave him in there and watch him undo all the good that anyone has done in this game. WTF is wrong with you man?

Losing is a disease

by ANDYAK47 on May 15, 2008 4:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

However, we all know tony will tap dance in the post game and bitch about stranding runners.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 15, 2008 4:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's trying to build him...

back up for the long haul. It is only the middle of May.

by guayzimi on May 15, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Al says...

Not an ideal condition for Izzy to come into a game. So by that logic we should be up 10 runs for him to come in? Isn’t it his job to at least get the hold?

by swmrnbk on May 15, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Not his job right now

a hold is just a save earlier in the game. He shouldn’t be pitching right now in situations where he could lose the game.

I think he’d be best off in EST for a coupla weeks.

by liam on May 15, 2008 4:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Stop dancing around truth Al and Dan....

it’s Ok to say…...”you really got to wonder about bringing in Izzy in a situation like today’s.”

by stanchar on May 15, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't get how it's TLR's fault

Izzy threw what, 15 pitches last night? Why shouldn’t he have brought him back today, hindsight notwithstanding?

by Andyfantastic on May 15, 2008 4:10 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Which

has the same pressure as saving a close game.

by spants on May 15, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then he should be off the team

If he can’t pitch at all with a one run lead, no point in being on the team

by saladdays on May 15, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i agree

but we owe him 8 million dollars.

by VolsnCards5 on May 15, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yeah

It’s a precarious position because there’s only so much coddling you can do with someone making that much money.

by saladdays on May 15, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Agree

He has to be able to pitch in close games or he is wasting a roster spot. The problem is that it will be very hard for the Cards brass to make the tough and correct decision.

by indakind on May 15, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cause izzy is sucking right now

let him come in in LOW leverage situations…and after the 4 pitch walk, he should have hooked him

by VolsnCards5 on May 15, 2008 4:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

why wait till a man is in scoring position

i could tell after four pitches he didnt have it…it has become clear this season he is not gonna work out it himself

by VolsnCards5 on May 15, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if he isn't ready to close

is he ready to pitch in the 8th w/ a 1 run lead? There’s very little difference.

by chuckb on May 15, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know what stranded runners means

It means we are putting a lot of runners on base. we have 5 effing runs. I would take that every effing day

Losing is a disease

by ANDYAK47 on May 15, 2008 4:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i agree

using lob is an excuse…sure i would love to score 15 runs a game…but these are major league relievers…they have to shut people down

by VolsnCards5 on May 15, 2008 4:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What an awful situation

Izzy has been very good for the Cards for a long time and it will be very hard for TLR to admit that he is no longer an asset. Loyalty is an important trait for a manager….to a point. The only real answer will be for Izzy to admit that he can’t do it anymore and voluntarily relinquish his place on the team.

by indakind on May 15, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not scoring with 2 on and no out last inning

and then watching Izzy give up 4 runs in about 2 minutes. Doesn’t get much worse then that.

Only my ulcer is enjoying this.

by gossard56 on May 15, 2008 4:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Was Izzy booed relentlessly?

Watching on Gameday, would like to know the crowd’s reaction. I wouldn’t, but I’m sure he probably got it major…

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by Mr Redbird on May 15, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He was booed

heartily after the homerun. I think the crowd is justified.

by indakind on May 15, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He got the mock applause

after recording his only out, too.

by liam on May 15, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oof

That’s almost worse than the booing

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by Mr Redbird on May 15, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

Izzy will punch a concrete wall and break his hand, thus taking the decision on what to do with him out of everyone’s hands.

by spants on May 15, 2008 4:14 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

On another note....

Jimmy just struck out on 3 pitches with the bases loaded.

by gossard56 on May 15, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nice

silver lining

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

we can steal back the mojo!

by spants on May 15, 2008 4:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Whoops

I thought you were talking about Izzy. My bad!

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by Mr Redbird on May 15, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its Hendry...

why would you pay a corner outfielder with a career .326 obp $136 million?

by guayzimi on May 15, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

but the Cubs are going to win again

what the hell happened to the Padres? They are just terrible this year.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 15, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no hitting

they’re in the same boat as the Giants, but maybe with even less hitting

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey lets look at the situation....

TLR is trying to help him regain his confidence. Pitching back to back days especially after the quick inning last night Izzy was fine to pitch.

Last week someone had a fan post “For Izzy” saying how bad it was to boo the guy. Well like I said in the comments it’s his job to save and win games not do your best.

Happy trails Izzy time to hang em up

BTW Rancateur I agreed with you on that post

BOOOOOO Izzy

by poohrat on May 15, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If TLR insists on letting Izzy pitch,

then let him pitch the 1st inning. That way, once the damage is done we might have a chance to get some of the runs back.

by Upset on May 15, 2008 4:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

dude you cant keep a short reliever......

out of a game just because he doesnt think hes ready…it just taxes the rest of the pen. If he cant pitch in close games he’s useless to us (especially this season). No blame on TLR for expecting his players to perform!

by poohrat on May 15, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't agree with that

The Cal Eldred-type mop-up guy is a respectable role in a bullpen. That’s the sort of innings Izzy should be getting if he can’t be DL’d to work with Strom in Extended.

by liam on May 15, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

its seems the

consensus was…...changes have to be made…....its sink or swim Izzy….....I think it took courage by both Tony and Izzy to do this before the public…....Its just a game, and both of them have earned my respect…........enough said

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 15, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This season has seriously felt like

what I’d imagine it’s like to be a Cubs fan every other year. Stupid shit costs you games, and you look at your main division rival and they can do no wrong. Ugh!

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by Mr Redbird on May 15, 2008 4:16 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

so funny how last year

everything sucked EXCEPT the bullpen

by cardsfaninmass on May 15, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

All right, Schu

Let’s start the magical comeback!! Denny Graves, where are you?

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by Mr Redbird on May 15, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i love losing games

almost everyday that we had in the bag. wee!!

by gossard56 on May 15, 2008 4:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

When was the last time Schumaker got a hit?

Seems the clock has struck midnight on that cinderella story.

by indakind on May 15, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oops

Just saw he has a hit in this game.

by indakind on May 15, 2008 4:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

today

but i agree, he’s been awful lately

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 15, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You play the game to win

bringing in a crappy pitcher in a close game while the team is struggling is fucking stupid enough said

Losing is a disease

by ANDYAK47 on May 15, 2008 4:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

DL bound is the best way

to soften the blow to Izzy.

by gossard56 on May 15, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Call it tendinitis

Nobody knows what that is anyway.

by indakind on May 15, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think so

Like I said earlier, we won’t be releasing him. But I’d imagine he’s going on the DL with some sort of ambiguous ailment like “arm fatigue” or “a stiff shoulder”...ailments that are code for the suckitis.

Maybe he retires, I dunno

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by Mr Redbird on May 15, 2008 4:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Izzy = Ol' Yeller?

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 4:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Izzy gets back to the dugout

TLR claps his hands twice, and two men carry Izzy away, screaming and whining, until from the hall to the locker room, you can hear two gunshots, and then everything is silent.

Wow that was just awful, I hope nobody thinks I’m serious at all, lol

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by Mr Redbird on May 15, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we could just release him

then maybe the cubs will pick him up after wood gets injured

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 4:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe ankiel

can teach izzy how to be a gold glove centerfielder?

by Never Ever Pitch Izzy Again on May 15, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

did you just make your profile

or have you been against izzy for awhile?

by VolsnCards5 on May 15, 2008 4:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

lol

That’s the funniest user name I’ve seen on this site.

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by Mr Redbird on May 15, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think pinch hitting Miles

in the seventh when Ludwick was available was an equally bad decision as putting Izzy in the 8th. Just pathetic management by TLR.

by gossard56 on May 15, 2008 4:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

My coworker wondered why...

I yelled “Oh god not scrappy do!”

by swmrnbk on May 15, 2008 4:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

man

i really wish i had been there for that…i love stupid office humor

by VolsnCards5 on May 15, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

8 runs on 9 hits for the Bucs

I can only wonder what that must feel like…

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Did Ank

really just swing at 4 balls?

by spants on May 15, 2008 4:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

i'd like to know what ank's batting average is after the 7th inning

seems like he gets too amped up and hacks at everything late in the game.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 15, 2008 4:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i dont remember the exact #'s

but your intuition is right, he was horrible in late innings. sub .200 i believe.

by Never Ever Pitch Izzy Again on May 15, 2008 4:27 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

.133/.235/.267

innings 7-9.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 15, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

On the plus side

It was a day game which means I get to cry uncontrollably tonight without the distraction of baseball

by riotmute on May 15, 2008 4:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

In honor of TLR

I’m going to eat a cat…after kicking it

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

2006 v 2008

Seems like 2006 all over again with Izzy only he is worse this year. The difference is that was a veteran team in 2006 that could handle those emotional losses. This young team is being crushed by Izzy’s failures. If we want to remain in contention a change will have to be made…soon.

by indakind on May 15, 2008 4:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

on the plus side

they’re not actually that young

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 4:25 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Young in terms of experience

That 2006 team had many years of big league experience to draw on. This team does not.

by indakind on May 15, 2008 4:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

where do you get that the team is "crushed"

by Izzy’s blown saves? They’re bad. I’m not disputing that. But I’ve seen no evidence that it’s affecting them in any meaningful way. Are you saying this is why they’re leaving so many runners on base? Then why aren’t their dejected spirits preventing them from reaching base in the first place. Their effort doesn’t appear to be lacking. I just see nothing to indicate that this recent spate of blown saves is demoralizing them at all.

by chuckb on May 15, 2008 6:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

bad word choice on my part

i think that they are pressing because they feel a need to extend leads because of the problems we’ve had at the back end of games. Yes i am saying that is why they are leaving so many men on base. I think this young team needs to believe they can win and continually losing games that they are leading late will cause a loss of confidence. confidence is everything in baseball. Maybe their spirit has not been crushed yet but if the bullpen keeps blowing leads, it will be.

by indakind on May 15, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I agree that, if it continues, it will

affect their psyche, but I haven’t seen evidence of that yet. I don’t agree that Izzy’s blown saves are the reason they’re leaving runners on base. They’re leaving runners on base b/c they hit into too many DP’s and b/c they lack power, or aren’t hitting for power. This team has too few HR’s and their ISO is 11th (I think) in the NL. This is why they’re leaving runners on base.

by chuckb on May 15, 2008 10:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

So when Izzy comes in tomorrow with a one run lead

I’ll be there in person. Think he’ll consider it rude if I boo TLR? He might think I’m booing him.

Rasmus or bust.

by Zoop on May 15, 2008 4:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

only to pick on me!

:D

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 15, 2008 4:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

sometimes you're right

that’s why I’ve been staying away. During day games, however, I work and have a hard time keeping a running dialogue as I’m trying to inconspicuously follow the game on gameday.

by chuckb on May 15, 2008 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say the turning point in this game was before Izzy

it was when Joel P couldn’t come out the next half inning when we took a 5-1 lead and shut them down. He shuts them down 1-2-3 there and it breaks their spirit, instead, he let them right back in the game.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 15, 2008 4:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Maybe

But it doesn’t change the fact that Izzy lost this game for us.

by indakind on May 15, 2008 4:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't agree with this

I don’t think Izzy should’ve been in there w/ a 1 run lead in the 8th. Tony’s placing him in that situation made it inevitable. I’ll have to look at boxscores and stuff a little more closely but, at first glance, I’d say the main problem was Tony’s hesitance to use Springer and/or Franklin after using them last night. Once Tony removed Pineiro after 5, he was put in the situation of having to use Izzy or Villone in the 8th and he went w/ Izzy.

The real problem may have been pulling Pineiro so early. He wasn’t pitching well but we were up 1 and he had only thrown 70 pitches. He should’ve had it in his mind that Izzy was only to be used in a high leverage situation in an emergency. Therefore, he should’ve tried to get another inning or 2 from Pineiro. It may have cost us a run or two, or even the game, but once he pulled Pineiro, it almost guaranteed that Izzy would have to pitch in a high leverage situation and Tony should’ve known that. The poor decision appears to be pulling Pineiro so early rather than using Izzy in the 8th.

by chuckb on May 15, 2008 6:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Of course Tony shouldn't have put him in

He did say he was going to give Izzy time to work things out.
5 days…That might be some of Tony’s worst managing ever.

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on May 15, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'd say the turning point

is 543356956364234527531431572353462 LOB

Rasmus or bust.

by Zoop on May 15, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Five runs should

win you most games. Leading at home in the eighth inning you have to find a way to get the three outs.

by indakind on May 15, 2008 4:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Chris Perez needs to be on his way up I-55, and soon

Not to jump right into closing, but his time is coming. K-Mac for closer!!

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by Mr Redbird on May 15, 2008 4:29 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Good plan

K-Mac should close and Perez moves into K-Mac’s spot.

by indakind on May 15, 2008 4:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

KMac walks alot of people

but then again so does Izzy and so does Perez.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 15, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

man

we haven’t had one of those nifty come back wins in a while. DO IT!

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 4:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

0-14

when trailing after the 8th.

and as I typed that, the lead just got bigger. DANGIT!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 15, 2008 4:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

if perez comes in in the 8th

no way bay goes deep…coming off the bench and trying to catch up with that heat? no way!!

by VolsnCards5 on May 15, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

fuck this

I hate this

Losing is a disease

by ANDYAK47 on May 15, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Turnin' it off.

Can’t believe my gal talked me into getting tix for tomorrow AND Sunday. Ugh.

Rasmus or bust.

by Zoop on May 15, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

At least you'll be watching an exciting, young team

Unfortunately, that’s not our team :(

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by Mr Redbird on May 15, 2008 4:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

I should go bug Kazmir at the dugout.

Rasmus or bust.

by Zoop on May 15, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ah cmon

maybe they’ll win both

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hopefully so.

Depends if Izzy comes in.

Rasmus or bust.

by Zoop on May 15, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

il take your tickets.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 15, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Having fun yet?

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

back to reality?

i think the honeymoon period with the 08 team is done. this is our season folks.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 15, 2008 4:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if this is the season

then we’ll finish in 2nd and maybe get the wild card

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

11-5?

did we really just lose a series to the Pirates?

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Shannon just said....

“Uncle”. Agreed.

by RichK on May 15, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I hope the pirates score 20.......

maybe these guys need to be embarassed

by poohrat on May 15, 2008 4:34 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I always enjoy a laugher

and I tend to agree. Sometimes a kick in the ass in good for the team.

Rasmus or bust.

by Zoop on May 15, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this . is . crap.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 15, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

This feels like

one of those games last year where we had Kelvin Jimenez or Andy Cavazos hemorrhaged runs for the last few innings of every other game.

Here’s hoping we look a whole lot better on this weekend series.

(Nice play by Ryan there!)

by liam on May 15, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Since when is Ryan Dempster = Cy Young?

and has he always been such a high strike out pitcher?

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 15, 2008 4:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

roids.

anyone?

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 15, 2008 4:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

allright.

we were doing fine until the closer. We need a new one. If this happens, we can still do well. I have faith. And, that was a great catch.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

maybe the cardinals

should live by the path of the chili cheese coney.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 15, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Emotional wreck

This team is wrecked emotionally from Izzy. I think part of the reason we have has such a hard time adding on runs is pressure. The team feels the pressure to get a big lead to avoid close/late situations. As a result they are “squeezing the bats”.

by indakind on May 15, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

d'oh

armchair psychology + baseball = bad bad bad

by jdub176 on May 16, 2008 2:21 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I live for this, covered in mud.

Kind of my sentiments exactly.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Let's get the Rays this weekend

Can’t do much today barring a miracle

by saladdays on May 15, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I am so pissed right now.

It’s one thing to lose but how we lost today was unacceptable

by poohrat on May 15, 2008 4:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The good thing

is it’s the Cubs in first and not a team that will actually hold up throughout a season.

Rasmus or bust.

by Zoop on May 15, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Amen!

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." Bob Gibson

by jodicards on May 15, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

this is ridiculous

we lost, and Xavier Nady went 0 for 5?

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

tony is a genius

bring in pitchers that suck so that there is no way we can win and bring them in late when we are winning to make it more painful for the fans. Damn I am great

Losing is a disease

by ANDYAK47 on May 15, 2008 4:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Okay,

Step 1. turn hat inside out.
Step 2. Pray.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We will score 5

Then Tony will pinch hit a pitcher instead of ludwick

Losing is a disease

by ANDYAK47 on May 15, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Rays....

After watching few of the Rays games this year?.....I think we could be in for a VERY long weekend….

by Timbo02 on May 15, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

aren’t the Rays #1 in their division…they aren’t the team they used to be, unfortunately

"The two most important things in life: good friends and a strong bullpen." Bob Gibson

by jodicards on May 15, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cards have outhit the Pirates

14 to 13. Gotta love it.

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 4:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No doubt that this is a team loss

But I think that this team is scared of the late innings and they get tight trying to extend leads. If they had faith in the bullpen I think they would relax and score more runs.

by indakind on May 15, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Fucking Izzy....

thanks for ruining my day…..Douche Bag

by poohrat on May 15, 2008 4:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

blame tony

you can bet izzy didn’t want to be out there.

It could be worse, you could be on fire.

by themanthemyth on May 15, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Don't let it ruin your day!

At least it is baseball season. We do get to watch something!

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

as part of the thread "watchers"

I would ask you to please stop…we heard you already and it’s getting old.

Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle."

by erik on May 15, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

THAT....

was as ugly a Cardinals loss…as I can remember…..wow..

by Timbo02 on May 15, 2008 4:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

yeah

can’t think of many worse than that

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 4:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not ugly, per se

But the worst Cards’ loss I remember was game 5 of the 2004 NLCS…Once again, Izzy was the culprit

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by Mr Redbird on May 15, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I blame the weather for a non-rainout

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 5:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

at least this one wasn’t even close in the end

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is it over yet?

thank god

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 15, 2008 4:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It's going to get better.

We will get a new closer and it will get better. The cards are a good baseball team, and we shouldn’t let losses like this make us think otherwise. Tony has noticed that Izzy isn’t doing well, and something will be done about it.

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 4:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bu-bu-but...

We were winning when Izzy came in…

by Midwestside on May 15, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

We were winning 5-1

You know, before the 10 unanswered runs and all

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 15, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I wouldn't say it was LOST before Izzy

But it could have been won before Izzy, that’s for sure.

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by Mr Redbird on May 15, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Yep

These players aren’t going to collapse in on themselves, and we’ve got excellent depth in the AAA bullpen.

Still hurts to lose a series at home like this.

Looking forward to seeing a coupla wins in person this weekend!

by liam on May 15, 2008 4:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here's some sort of bright side

Maybe we’ll give the Pirates the confidence they need to sweep the Cubbies! Oh, and Kazmir is pitching today for the Rays, and James Shields went last night, so we’ll miss the Rays’ two best pitchers! Not that the rest of their staff isn’t as dominating, lately.

by Midwestside on May 15, 2008 4:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

again with the optamism....thanks

BOOOOOO Izzy...yeah I said it. BOOOO Izzy

by poohrat on May 15, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I guess looking on the bright side

Even though it’s hard, is better than letting this game ruin my night. I think i’m gonna go play RISK

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

teams that whip our ass don't get confidence boosts

Note the past games with the Brew, they’ve looked awful after handing us a few.
Colorado didn’t awake really at all after our collapse
Giants? only other team that has beat us in a series besides brew and pirates. enough said

It’s like they kick our bullpen around like chumps, then go back to playing bad ball. Which actually makes it all that much worse.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

because

confidence boosts, momentum and other intangible tripe are only as good as your next opponents.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 15, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

Can anyone look at our team as it is right now

And not believe that getting Anthony Reyes and Brad Thompson back would improve it?

by Midwestside on May 15, 2008 5:01 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Thompson is on the DL

and Reyes wouldn’t be in a role that would help, he’s not going to close and he’s not really that short term of a reliever, which is where our main issues are

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 15, 2008 5:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Anyone know

if Molina suffered any consequences yet from the fight with the ump the other day?

go cards.

by thecoolalonzo on May 15, 2008 5:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

fine

will not miss any days.

by Evilfrog on May 15, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yeah, just a fine...apparently that wasn't enough for the cubs homer that writes the rotoworld sidebar.

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 15, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bring on the Rays!

This game sucked. Im ready to move on and see what the AL has. Hopefully we can fix the bullpen soon.

by Evilfrog on May 15, 2008 5:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

From the P-D article on todays's game:

Edmonds debut: He started in center field and went 1 for 4 as the Cubs rode a 12-strikeout performance by Ryan Dempster to victory.

Edmonds singled in his first at-bat, but he also struck out, hit into a double play and left seven runners on base.

link

Poor guy still thinks he’s an ‘08 cardinal…

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 15, 2008 5:38 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Too bad the Cardinals have 65 outfielders

or I’d say take him back. Our offense doesn’t need him. Our defense doesn’t need him. Our clubhouse doesn’t need him. Our fans don’t need him. The worse offense in the Nat’l League didn’t need him. The only thing he brings is something to talk about in between wins, which we already had with Pie/Johnson/Murton.

I'm kind of a big deal

by chi-townbleacherbum on May 15, 2008 7:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

well....

...not really pretty good in my estimation….more like your typical sour Chi-town mini-rant.

100 years is it?

by cardschinmusic on May 16, 2008 5:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Please no one mock Jason Bay ever again, mkay?

All the hardy-har-har yesterday about him throwing like a girl and Strauss calling him an ‘odd fan fetish’ and the guys goes out and shows why fans would like to see him batting 4th.

Aaannyywaaays, today’s loss was a good one. They need about 3 more of these from the bullpen in the next week or two before LaRussa’s hand is forced and the youth movement in the bullpen begins.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 16, 2008 12:05 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Youth movement

begins tomorrow. Check the P-D and note that perez hasn’t pitched since Tuesday, even in today’s Memphis game when he could have possibly made Joey Bombs’ HR unnecessary.

by liam on May 16, 2008 12:35 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Great game in Memphis tonight

incase no one saw it. Mather hit a 2 run bomb (his 6th HR) to win it in the 12th.

Trade Chris Duncan, call up Mather.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on May 16, 2008 12:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

poor IZZY

watching him go though this is hell. both Bernie & Strauss say he’s going on the DL or he’s going to be DFA’d later today. he’s been getting treatment for his hip. that is so very wrong. the man deserved so much better. he deserved to go out his way.

truly this game is a cruel mistress.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on May 16, 2008 2:11 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well

from what i’ve read, bernie says mo should put izzy on the DL, not that he’s already headed there. and…

...the alternative is to designate him for minor-league assignment. Which would likely lead to his release after waivers expire.

The Cardinals don’t want to do that. Not yet, anyway.

that hardly sounds like they’re DFAing him later today. where were you getting your info? mailbag or chat or something?

by baw on May 16, 2008 2:22 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

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