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Game 41 Open Thread: May 13 2008

Pittsburgh Pirates @ St. Louis Cardinals


Dumatrait Lohse
1-1, 3.86 3-2, 4.87

tyler johnson is gonna have his shoulder scoped this week; don't know if we can expect him back on a mound this year, but i suspect not. ron villone, you da man . . . .

also, today is the 50th anniversary of The Man's 3000th hit; photos, video, and other goodies at this link (thanks sjoshi). the game box score is right here. now here's what cracks me up about that box score --- at the end of the game, musial was hitting .489. not .389; .489 --- and this was a month into the season. he had 43 hits in 88 at-bats on the year. the following day he went 3 for 4 to raise his average to .500, god bless 'im . . . .  i never saw the guy play. he really must have been something.

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Just reading over on BP

Dont know how many others saw this, but it was describing how important a stat the LOB thing is or isnt. What I found not so suprising is that we have 2 of the top 5 batters for leaving men on base so far in 2008. Number 1? Santa Glaus come on down. Number 5? Pujols. Pujols was a bit of a suprise, but then no one is pitching to him with men on base.

for those who have subscription and havent seen it: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/article.php?articleid=7510

by FunkeeC on May 13, 2008 7:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmmm

Pujols has an OBP of .500. Even if Glaus were hitting a lot better, he’d still probably be #1, simply because Pujols has been on base a lot.

Start Ludwick

by DiscoJer on May 13, 2008 7:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hehe i was just reading that

and came here to post it. Lol.

great quote from the article:

“Put it all together and the data suggests that a high number of runners left on base, while frustrating and annoying, may not be a sure sign that your team’s offense is broken or even in bad shape. It might actually be a good thing.”

having two guys on the same team leading the majors in LOB? Not so much.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 13, 2008 7:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Then again

the red sox are doing OK with ortiz and pedroia both on the list…

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by SleepyCA on May 13, 2008 7:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ya

My fear is that our current level of OBPness is more a mirage than newfound talent and skill and once this levels off, we will have reached our true offensive level. I hope not, but time will tell.

by FunkeeC on May 13, 2008 7:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also saw the article

I think that is great news for our offense if the other guys continue to get on base in front of Pujols and Glaus. Troy will start hitting better, maybe not a big difference, but he won’t end the season hitting .230 with 4 HR if he stays healthy. I promise you that. Obviously, if people keep getting on base in front of Pujols that is a very good thing. They will have to pitch to him many of those times.

Also, it isn’t a LOB list. It is a Runners Not Plated list. That is why Pujols ranks so high with his walks.

by mlaw on May 13, 2008 9:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if I recall correctly

the game on fox over the weekend he did the line up. When he was reading them off..

“the most feared hitter in the game… Miles, second base”

I don’t know why I laughed at that so hard, subtle humor gets me I s’pose

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 13, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lol, indeed

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 13, 2008 7:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damn global warming, lol

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by coachnick39 on May 13, 2008 7:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You what though.

I was thinking, saying something against gobal warming is not going to stop the hate mail from comming.

by Evilfrog on May 13, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

bummer im in WA

and we had the yanks

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 13, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FOX baseball is dead to me

Not that I get to watch a significant number of Cards’ games on TV anyway.

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by ColinMacLeod on May 13, 2008 8:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Fernando Tatis got called up by the Mets today.

Just thought I’d share

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by coachnick39 on May 13, 2008 7:36 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

heard that

and was like wow..maybe theyd take miles?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 13, 2008 7:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Chan Ho Park is running scared, now

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on May 13, 2008 8:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The best part is that rotoworld has him listed as a DH

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 13, 2008 9:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Tj might will not be back presumably

I had A Labrum repair and two types of cartilage repaired on the 31st of January(non dominant arm). Not sure about rotator area which is what the article makes it seem like, but mine is a slow healing area due to not enough blood flow. Im still on light duty, can do repetitve motion without pain, but cant put weight on it without pain. Im regaining motion but its a slow process. They told me overall about 6 months and from what i understand thats common with alot of shoulder type injuries.

4 months puts him at sept, so I doubt we will see TJ, but you never know hes a tad younger and im not 100% on what exactly he’s having done.

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by punchinjudy on May 13, 2008 7:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That sucks about TJ, Im a big fan of his

though I wish he’d switch his number back to 61

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by coachnick39 on May 13, 2008 7:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jaime Garcia

Put up this line for Memphis today:

7 IP; 6 H; 0 R; 1 BB, 6 K

His ERA at AAA so far (only two games, I realize) is 0.69 with a GO/AO ratio of 2.38 and a 12/1 K/BB rate in 13 innings.

by punditmoi on May 13, 2008 7:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think he'll pitch for the Cards

this year before it’s all said and done.

Thanks for the update I have been following him closely all year but forgot he pitched today!

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 8:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Garcia is probably my favorite

I am a huge fan of Garcia and have to say he is my favorite prospect in the organization. I know Dave Duncan has to love this guy too. A ground ball lefty that doesn’t walk guys and strikes out at hitter at a high rate also.

by FlimtotheFlam on May 13, 2008 8:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

looks like a fine roatation

shaping up for ‘09
Carp
Wagonmaker
Welley
Garcia
Kmac

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by mattyfrommo on May 13, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heresy ... sacrilege ... but

I’m at the point of wondering whether this guy may be a better prospect than Da Raz, if he holds together physically.

by StanTheManFan on May 13, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's phenomenal.

Looks like he’s doing well now that he’s moved out of a hitter’s league.

That’s a spectacular line.

by liam on May 13, 2008 9:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Jess Todd

is looking good for Springfield tonight, too. Peripherals aren’t eyepopping like Garcia’s, but he’s getting the job done.

by liam on May 13, 2008 9:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rain delay=Franklins

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by coachnick39 on May 13, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are they anticipating a rain delay?

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by 82Special on May 13, 2008 8:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

tarp is on the field

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by coachnick39 on May 13, 2008 8:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Rain delay

how long are we talkin here?

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On weather.com

... it looks as though the storm is leaving the area already. Shouldn’t be a long delay.

by punditmoi on May 13, 2008 8:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

west coast baseball

having grown up and played baseball in the midwest, moving out west is a change of pace. It raining alot is not a stereotype it does in fact is right now.

I go to see some of my youths babseball games and have seen them play in some pretty bad crap, however they manage to keep the fields playable(not MLB playable cause no mil $ investments at the 8th rade level). At any rate i was an adjustment remebering back to my days when it seemed like if it rained even a little during the summer we were rained out.

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 13, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it's sorta kinda raining here

should get the brunt of it soon though

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Iowa...

Is anyone else in the Des Moines area with Mediacom not getting the game tonite? Tomorrow’s nite’s games isn’t listed either, even though both are listed on the Cards website and Fox Sports as FSN.

by svengali on May 13, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it is one of 20 games they are blacking out this season

Here is the list of games they say they will blackout

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by mattyfrommo on May 13, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if it makes you feel any better

the cards usually win during the blackouts

so we have that going for us, which is nice

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by mattyfrommo on May 13, 2008 8:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shawn Estes is still alive

and he pitches against the Cubs tonight

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by coachnick39 on May 13, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

a shawn estes and fernando tatis mention

all in one day

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by punchinjudy on May 13, 2008 8:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

too bad re: Johnson

the “no news is good news” cliche doesn’t seem to apply to Cardinal pitchers.

by azruavatar on May 13, 2008 8:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

are you kidding me?

the pirates are almost .500 and there starter has an e.r.a. under 4? wtf

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they been playing decent ball

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 13, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've got a question about outfield positions:

I know that its common for managers to put their worst OF defender in LF. Why is that?

It seems like more balls are put into play in LF than in RF, so why not put your better defender in LF where he’ll have a chance to make more plays?

Is it just so you have a better arm in RF? If that’s the case, it seems like the RF’s arm would come into play much less than the LF’s glove.

I’d put Ludwick in LF and let Barton or Duncan play in RF.

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on May 13, 2008 8:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

which is funny cause in younger levels

the wrap goes that you bad kids get stuck in right..and in the pros the right fielders tend to have guns.. and your left fielders as you said are weaker. Not sure a reason though

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by punchinjudy on May 13, 2008 8:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

geez, how old are you?

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by mattyfrommo on May 13, 2008 8:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pull the ball?

I think I got one double in 3 years of little league and I don’t even remember what part of the park it went to, much less think about pulling the ball.

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by ColinMacLeod on May 13, 2008 8:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I once hit walk off double with 2 outs.

And got called out for throwing the bat. And I didn’t even throw the bat. The catcher kicked it!

I hate little league!

by Evilfrog on May 13, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's funny

cuz I played three years of little league and only had one double also. I hit it to center

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I probably hit a gapper to the wall.

And I was also stuck in right field.

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by ColinMacLeod on May 13, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

same here

stuck in right field cuz I was a late bloomer and didn’t run very fast

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2008 8:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Softball, but also stuck in right field, cause I'm slow.

I made one amazing diving catch to save a run, but I only had to dive because I got such a bad jump on the ball.

by six on May 13, 2008 9:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Outfielder arm strength

The throw from right to third is a long one, and you rarely see (the equivalent) throw from left to first, except when doubling off a runner going on a caught flyball.

We put Ludwick in left for games in parks with a deep left field, though, like Colorado and Pittsburgh.

by liam on May 13, 2008 9:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The good arm bit is

to keep runners from going from first to 3rd on hits to right, naturally. but the throw home is no longer. only other thing is you probably have more opposite field hits to right because of more right handed batters. But you are right when we chose up for back alley games as a kid, the smallest was told by the biggest to “take right Field” while everybody else laughed.

by ridgesee on May 13, 2008 8:40 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm sure there's a way to tell

how many hits go to left and how many go to right, but I don’t know where to go to find such info.

I’m just assuming that more balls are put in play in LF than RF.

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on May 13, 2008 8:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lets not forget...

the ball off the bat going opposite field is much tougher to read, and since more hitters are right-handed, someone with better natural instincts is well served in RF. Opposite field hits are much more common in the Bigs.

by longhornscardinals on May 13, 2008 8:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good point

didn’t think about that. still, I’d put my weakest defender in right

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2008 8:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

game on!

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by ihavebadknees on May 13, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Game on

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on May 13, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow,

More and more impressed with him every game.

by davethebutcher on May 13, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Luddy do something badass

again?

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by mattyfrommo on May 13, 2008 8:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I had a 50/50

chance of getting it right

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by mattyfrommo on May 13, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Thanks for the Musial mention.

Yeah, he was something. REALLY something. I just saw him at the end of his career, and then through the hero-worshiping eyes of a small child. But there may never have been a baseball player who combined such greatness with such complete lack of ego and pretense.

by StanTheManFan on May 13, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i like this lineup

Barton
Ryan
Pujols
Ludwick
Glaus
Ankiel
Molina
Lohse
Izturis

Maybe swap Izturis with Kennedy, and I’m happy.

by longhornscardinals on May 13, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Barton

swings at a lot of 1st pitches

not so good in the lead off role

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by 82Special on May 13, 2008 8:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think Tony had him bunt

and he’s not practiced enough at bunting yet

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2008 8:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well...

... if he’d layed it down perfectly, Tony would have subbed Schumaker half way to first.

by punditmoi on May 13, 2008 8:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Man.

I missed a whole half inning watching the food network.

by Evilfrog on May 13, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Khalil Green

puts one onto waveland 3-3

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 8:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they add another.

4-3 Pads in the 4th

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 9:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

free passed ball

lets get something

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by ihavebadknees on May 13, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the guy's hitting is practically cursed

just not finding the right spots when he hits. and he’s not hitting any homers. we need him to do so

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2008 9:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe it's time to put ankiel at 5th batter

and glaus at 6th. that way glaus could get a double next inning if ank strikes out here

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2008 9:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I raised that question about a week ago

and I’m in agreeance with you.. it might be a good idea

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 9:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kudos

don’t think ank has tried the #5 yet. that should work I think

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2008 9:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Think that we had issues with the umps last night?

We’ve got Angel Hernandez today!

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by Valatan on May 13, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

some would say that angels do answer directly to God

maybe that’s why he’s so cocky

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by 82Special on May 13, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how the hell does he still have a job

does he have the same kind of pictures of bud that miles has of tony?

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by mattyfrommo on May 13, 2008 9:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What's amazing is that they use him in the post season so much

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by 82Special on May 13, 2008 9:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

well, at least he already gave us one

strike three to LaRoche looked low and outside

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by Valatan on May 13, 2008 9:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ya, he's got the Marquis syndrome

When he’s good he’s good, when he’s not….

Doesn’t appear to have the attitude at least.

by TheBirds on May 13, 2008 9:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'll take Lohse over Marquis

any day

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 9:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

I don’t get the feeling we’ll be calling him betty or something.

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 13, 2008 9:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that final pitch

was beautiful

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by ihavebadknees on May 13, 2008 9:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yup

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 13, 2008 9:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yea

bur i hope they don’t get that call

by VolsnCards5 on May 13, 2008 9:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nice

upper inside corner

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2008 9:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

SD is ahead of the Cubbies 4-3 in the 4th

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by 82Special on May 13, 2008 9:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

woohoo

those guys need to come down to earth

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2008 9:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

perfect positioning

that’s a hit almost every time

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 9:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

the fact that yadi had to make his wobble down the 1b line didn’t help

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by Valatan on May 13, 2008 9:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was talking about Ankiel

but Yadi too

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 9:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Why don't infielders play even further back against molina?

The pitcher and catchers can field any bunts he makes to try and beat it, and he’s so slow you might as well play as deep as you can.

by TheBirds on May 13, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does anyone else think that the music on the "Keep Watching" ads sounds really sinister?

And isn’t it funny that Ken Griffey participates, while Manny Ramirez doesn’t?

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by Valatan on May 13, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

iz2 can flash the glove

wow

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by ihavebadknees on May 13, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh my

iz2

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 9:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dan said what i was thinking

eck doesnt make that play

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by punchinjudy on May 13, 2008 9:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Izturis was a good signing

he’s not a good starting SS for sure, but for under 3 million his D makes him a bargain.

by TheBirds on May 13, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lohse

has had some balls hit hard but they’re outs. Very efficient so far.

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 9:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good play in the field

leads to good play at the plate.

HR Izturis!

by longhornscardinals on May 13, 2008 9:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that only works if you don't mention it

; )

yes i’m superstitious

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 9:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Need to make this guy work a little this inning

bad start

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Barton cannot catch up to fastballs lately.

I don’t know if it’s the leadoff spot or what but he looks awful.

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 9:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

need to see that one again

why cant we get a close call on the bases

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by ihavebadknees on May 13, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmm

Looked safe to me…

Wish I had DVR.

by mojowo11 on May 13, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah

I wish silverlight would pause and rewind like my old quicktime player would

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on May 13, 2008 9:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i have dvr

still too close to call with the frame speed or whatever on the player

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by ihavebadknees on May 13, 2008 9:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

and on situations like that

where it’s too close to call, the defender who made a diving stop will get the call every time.

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 9:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Izturis's play

Up on gameday. Wow. May make me a believer yet.

by random on May 13, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he has had the d for us so far this year

just need a few more single pokes for my taste

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by ihavebadknees on May 13, 2008 9:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm kind of glad we didn't go into a no hit bid today

I don’t think my heart could take it

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on May 13, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

could've done without the 2 R HR, though

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by Valatan on May 13, 2008 9:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yikes...

I hope this doesn’t turn into one of “those” innings

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by 82Special on May 13, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

quick!

wash out your mouth or throw salt over your shoulder or something

That changeup was not so wonderful

by random on May 13, 2008 9:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Don't worry.

We’ll at least get some more chances before the night is over.

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by 82Special on May 13, 2008 9:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lies

were going to be no-hit for the rest of the night.

by longhornscardinals on May 13, 2008 9:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lohse

according to ESPN’s Gamecast, Lohse has 0 er on the night with the score 2-0; how is that?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 13, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The hell?

Pujols could’ve just kept his hand where it was and it would’ve fallen right into his glove.

by mojowo11 on May 13, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What happened?

no tv

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by 82Special on May 13, 2008 9:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ran over to a pop-up in foul territory

Reached out for the ball a few feet from the stands…and then yanked his hand back at the last moment and it bounced right next to him. It was weird.

by mojowo11 on May 13, 2008 9:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

maybe he and Glaus share the same eye affliction

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by 82Special on May 13, 2008 9:38 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

loshe will

or rather did pick him up

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by ihavebadknees on May 13, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does anyone know if Jay Bruce came up today?

He’s been snatched up in a few of my fantasy leagues. I can’t find anything that says he’s up.

by mojowo11 on May 13, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just a guess

Keppinger broke his knee, maybe that activity is speculation that Walt will dump his top prospect for a shortstop.

by liam on May 13, 2008 9:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i hope we can score some runs tonight

they look dead tonight so far

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on May 13, 2008 9:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Come on, Glaus!

Start hitting please?

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

by sirensofsilence on May 13, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

theres one

at least its a hit!

Keep em comin Troy!... and the rest of yall!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 13, 2008 9:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's cause you said please.

Please, Ank, do something magnificent.

by six on May 13, 2008 9:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Haha

They apparently only respond to my pleases and thank yous.

....if only that were true….

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

by sirensofsilence on May 13, 2008 9:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah Glaus!

Maybe that was the spark you need!

by bjork24 on May 13, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not much to comment on

Other then the same old, “We can’t hit” stuff. It’s boring. Waiting for a competitive game here.

by cloistermaximus on May 13, 2008 9:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dumatrait for cy young?

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on May 13, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Seriously...

how does this team manage to make every lefty it sees look like Sandy Koufax reincarnated? You know it’s going to happen every time, regardless of who’s out there. It’s so damn frustrating…

by LukeMP1186 on May 13, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this team needs some kinda jolt

like maybe a pujols homerun with runners on. havent seen one of those for ages

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on May 13, 2008 9:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

take some consolation in the fact that

San Diego still leads the Cubs by one in the top of the 7th

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by 82Special on May 13, 2008 9:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Until

the Cubs erupt for a 5 or 6 run inning. They seem to be fond of those…

by LukeMP1186 on May 13, 2008 10:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

alright...

a little excitement coming from the top of the order here?

by bluesfan1 on May 13, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

heres our chance

top of the order comin up. Barton and Shoulderlicker need to get on here.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 13, 2008 10:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

looks like a lick to me

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by yer dog first on May 13, 2008 10:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's a lick

And he does it to remind himself to not drop his back shoulder on his swing.. It actually makes a lot of sense. Although it’s still pretty funny.

by cloistermaximus on May 13, 2008 10:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good eye there Cardinaut!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 13, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

haha

solid

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 10:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That just popped into my mind as I was typing it.

My vote is for that to be his nickname.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 13, 2008 10:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

way to go, Barton!

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by 82Special on May 13, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's a start

Let’s force the issue here a bit… little hit and run action here or somethin

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 10:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dont believe so

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 10:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who is commentating with dan?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 13, 2008 10:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

horton played?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 13, 2008 10:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks

he made it sound like he played with AP

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 13, 2008 10:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

way to go, expand the zone

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on May 13, 2008 10:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know what Mark Mulder needs?

A few intrasquad starts against his teammates. As a lefty, his confidence would surely skyrocket.

by LukeMP1186 on May 13, 2008 10:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good idea

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on May 13, 2008 10:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

cmon glaus, jack a dong

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on May 13, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Jack-a-Dong

Think we have a new way to say home run!

by lightbulb on May 13, 2008 10:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

finally

BIG HOMER SANTA

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by ihavebadknees on May 13, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

mmmmm

homers

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on May 13, 2008 10:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yes!!!! the jack a dong strikes again!!!

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on May 13, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You, sir

This Franklin’s for you!

by random on May 13, 2008 10:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

HEY THERE

Alright Glaus! Finally.

by mojowo11 on May 13, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Glaus!

He’s listening to me finally!

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

by sirensofsilence on May 13, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i was thinking it

but didnt want to say it

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 13, 2008 10:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

GLAUS BREAKS ON THROUGH

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on May 13, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, I'll be damed!

Very nice.. Juuuust cleared the wall

by cloistermaximus on May 13, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if that one had been robbed

i would have been a bit annoyed.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 13, 2008 10:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OMG WTF

3-run homer? From this team?! Surely the locusts and frogs are on their way

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by Mr Redbird on May 13, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Nah

They’re still home back in Kansas.

by random on May 13, 2008 10:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that helps

hold that lead…hold that lead…hold that lead

by VolsnCards5 on May 13, 2008 10:12 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh, yeah!!!

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by 82Special on May 13, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

same can be said about Lohse

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 10:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep, Duma's night is done

88 pitches through six.

HIs numbers on pitches 76 – 100: 385/467/538

Here’s hoping he sticks around for one more inning though.

by lightbulb on May 13, 2008 10:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the shift cost ank earlier

but gave him one there

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by ihavebadknees on May 13, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

look at ank

finding the hole in the shift

by bluesfan1 on May 13, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

if there was ever a time to kick into gear --

that was just it.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on May 13, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

for Glaus,that is

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on May 13, 2008 10:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

still barely hit it over

Rick Ankiel could throw out Chuck Norris. Easy.

by emrfg8 on May 13, 2008 10:14 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

boy! you're optimistic!

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on May 13, 2008 10:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My how Ank has grown

and we have all watched him do it

by birdsonthehat on May 13, 2008 10:15 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

somebody tell Yadi

that it might help to see a pitch or two sometime

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by 82Special on May 13, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Okay

now, can we please bring the pen in. Lohse has been scary as of late. It’d be nice to get him a QS to get him back on track.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on May 13, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

or has he been throwing a good game?

I haven’t been watching—purely gameday.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on May 13, 2008 10:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he's been what he's been

he let the Pirates get themselves out, and got killed on the couplea mistakes he’s made. Overall, pretty good game, though

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on May 13, 2008 10:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I really hope

that that 3-run HR is just the spark T-Roy G-Laus (and the rest of the team) needs to get on a roll

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by Mr Redbird on May 13, 2008 10:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

good move

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 10:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, it makes sense here

Schu’s the better defender, it’s late, RH relievers are more likely from here, and there’s a lead to protect.

by StanTheManFan on May 13, 2008 10:18 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

shit

the ole lead off double

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by ihavebadknees on May 13, 2008 10:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yeah, that's it

let’s get him out of there.

by lightbulb on May 13, 2008 10:19 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 13, 2008 10:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Correction

There WAS a lead to protect…

by StanTheManFan on May 13, 2008 10:19 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

okay

I’ll say it again—can we please get the pen in?

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on May 13, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

still a good start from loshe

lets get kmac in there

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by ihavebadknees on May 13, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i think it was the right move to start the 7th

But after the leadoff double, you pull him. Not fair giving him a chance to be a loser.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 13, 2008 10:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Anyone warmin up in the pen?

Lohse needs the hook

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 13, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kmac and villone

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by ihavebadknees on May 13, 2008 10:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 13, 2008 10:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

workin?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 13, 2008 10:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep

slow night, waitin on the helos to get back.

had one make an emergency landing on the beach about 20 mins ago. Looks like they’ll be fine and comin on home soon.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 13, 2008 10:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

its always bad positioning

if it finds a gap, right?

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 10:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I don't know how you judge that

They’ve made 8 outs in the OF – Pittsburgh’s only had three hits touching down in the OF.

That’s a 8 out of 11 percentage.

by enoscountry on May 13, 2008 10:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ankiel shading

towards left, Ludwick towards the line. Big hole.

by chicagocardfan on May 13, 2008 10:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

they play the percentages

more thought goes into their positioning then us fans can even imagine. Sometimes it doesn’t work out.. that’s baseball

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 10:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought luddy had a chance at the first one

Impossible to tell from that camera angle, though. The second was a gapper that landed at the base of the wall; no LF’er in the game gets that one.

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by SleepyCA on May 13, 2008 10:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

RF.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 13, 2008 10:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

IBB LaRoche

That’s what I would do

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by Mr Redbird on May 13, 2008 10:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs