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the ups and downs

the new ‘n’ improved cards face their first test --- 5 losses in 6 games, uncertainty in the bullpen, and a frustrating stretch of lousy results with men on base. they stranded another 9 guys last night and went 1 for 10 with men in scoring position; they went 14 for 72 (.194) with RISP on the road trip. izturis, ryan, and ankiel all failed in that situation in the top of the 9th, getting themselves out on borderline (at best) pitches from hurlers groping to find the strike zone. i thought they had a decent opportunity to make that last inning interesting; one measly base hit tucked in among the 5 walks, and it would indeed have gotten interesting.

whatever; that’s probably just a blip. teams randomly go through hot / cold spells with respect to clutch hitting; or, if you prefer, their confidence ebbs and flows over the course of 162 games. this was a tough week for the offense, but i’m not too worked up about it. they continue to put men on base (team obp of .359 during the road trip, and .341 during the last 6 games), and they’ve now homered in 7 straight games; if troy glaus’s bat ever wakes up, i think the offense is gonna be alright. not great --- the middle infielders exert too much of a drag --- but above average.

and as long as we’ve brought him up --- what gives with glaus? do we think he’s ever gonna snap out of this? i think he will, for a bunch of reasons. first and foremost, the ball’s not coming off his bat much differently this year than it has in the past. his k rate is below his career average, and his walk rate’s above, both good signs; his gb / fb / ld rates are stable; he’s not hitting an alarmingly high number of pop flies or low number of line drives. (thank you fangraphs for all those numbers.) troy’s BABIP is .286, close to his career average (.281). based on all that information, i’d expect glaus’s stat line to revert to normal at some point. the only area of concern is his performance at busch stadium, where he can’t see the ball and is hitting .186 with a .572 ops (vs .286 / .881 on the road). as i understand it, his vision problems there are allergy-related; one hopes that will abate after the weather warms up and the pollen gets a little less thick.

before the trip started i looked at hot-starting st louis teams of yore and found that the three who most resembled this year’s team --- the 1977, 1981, and 2000 editions --- all leveled off in games 31 through 60, after matching or exceeding this year’s 19-11 record in games 1 through 30. to refresh your memory, all 3 of those teams (like this year’s) were coming off sub-.500 finishes in the previous season and had undergone drastic off-season roster remakes and / or changes in management. the ’77 club went 15-15 in the second 30 games; the ’81 team went 10-10 (and then were halted by the strike); and the ’00 team went 14-16. so far the 2008 cardinals are 4-6 in games 31-60, and likely headed for a .500ish record in that segment; so it goes. it’s called regression to the mean; while an above-average team might play .650 ball over a 30-game run, only a truly good one can sustain that for longer stretches of time. we may be getting some evidence that (as many suspected) the 2008 cardinals were playing above their heads in the early going, taking advantage of a soft schedule that was skewed heavily toward home games.

that’s the thing about a team with a lot of new, youngish faces; it’s a constant learning process. you’re always finding out new things about them; always have more questions than answers. maybe we’ll come to find out that april 2008 was just a mirage; maybe we won’t. the fun thing about the franchise this year, as opposed to years in the recent past, is that nearly every problem has a potential internal solution. chris duncan is slumping? no worries; joe mather is hitting .325 with power down at memphis, and colby rasmus will come around before too long. the bullpen’s in crisis? hello chris perez or jason motte. need a starting pitcher? they can choose from among parisi, reyes, boggs, jaime garcia (who made a very strong debut at triple A the other night), or pj walters (also a triple A now, and starting to feel his way). alas, the one place they lack good options is the place they need them most, in the middle infield; jarrett hoffpauir has cooled off after a flukishly hot start, d’angelo jimenez hasn’t shown much, and brian barden isn’t really a middle infielder. he has, however, been hitting (.325 with some power and a lot of walks). this guy bats right-handed and can play a passable second base (about 100 games there in the minor leagues); could he possibly be worse than aaron miles?

at the start of the season, the hope was the st louis could hang around the .500 mark long enough to get carpenter back into the rotation, then try to make a run at the playoffs in the last two months and/or position themselves for 2009. i’m still hoping they can do that; the 10 days in first place were fun, but i never took them all that seriously. i do take the next three weeks seriously, though; 13 of their next 19 games are at home, and the cards had best gain a little loft during that stretch because the june schedule is difficult --- 18 road games (vs only 9 home), with trips to houston, boston, and detroit. if they can get through game 60 (that’s june 3 vs washington) at 10 games over, i’ll be pretty damn happy. they’ll have to go 12-8 over the next 20 games to get there. good challenge for a team that's still taking shape; check back here in three weeks . . . .

p.s.: cards take game 5 of the sim-1986 NLCS , now lead the series 3 games to 2.

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Here's to a good home stand.

I missed last night game. Sucks that Wainwright got torched. Didn’t see that comming. What was the deal with Yadi getting thrown out?

It would be really nice to get back to around 10 over .500 on this homestand.

by Evilfrog on May 13, 2008 9:26 AM EDT   0 recs

i dunno how everyone else feels

i missed the game thread last night also but i loved to see yadi stick up for his pitcher like that he may of went a tad over the line but when he saw AW was pissed he took it upon himself let the umpire know that he was sucking…although the pitch it happen on was a little low…i cracked up when he took off his gear and gave it to (toward) the umpire…

"Back in the day when I played, a pitcher had 3 pitches: a fastball, a curveball, a slider, a changeup and a good sinker pitch." - Mike Shannon

by nomar34 on May 13, 2008 9:34 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I need to find a video of that.

It’s wierd that moments like that can snap a team out of slump.

by Evilfrog on May 13, 2008 9:36 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

God I hope so...

(fingers crossed)...hopefully he will only have to miss one game because of it that way it will just be like a day off to Yadi. anything more than that and we have another auto-out in the lineup for a few games.

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by nomar34 on May 13, 2008 9:39 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

it is weird that the team started hitting again after that moment

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on May 13, 2008 10:56 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

’m partial to thinking that seeing Larue hit a double got the rest of the team going with the stick, although the AB in the ninth by Ankiel shows me that he has quite a ways to go as a hitter – he swung through ball four twice – once on 3-1 and once on 3-2. The 3-1 pitch kills me because:
1. It wasn’t in the strike zone
2. With a 3-1 count in the ninth and you aren’t the tying run, you HAVE to be sitting on one pitch and just hammer it—if it’s not your pitch you should be taking it.
3. There’s no way he could have been sitting on that pitch, which means he had some hero juice pumping through his veins, which is ridiculous because HE WASN’T EVEN THE TYING RUN!

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by fourstick on May 13, 2008 11:55 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Video is on the Cards home page.

Usually I think that a player should not appeal if he did something wrong, just man up and take his suspension/ fine, but in this case (if it comes to a suspension, which it probably will) I think that Yadi should appeal because the ump had NO business coming around to the front of the plate and getting in Yadi’s face. He gave him the hook mighty quick as well. Yadi went too far, but he didn’t lose it until after he was tossed. Like Wainer said after the game, “If you’re going to get tossed, you might as well make it a good one.”

by cardsgirl95 on May 13, 2008 9:51 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yadi...

Adam had been getting squeezed on the outer half all night—Yadi had made various comments to the umpire about pitches he thought were in the zone and called balls (You’d see more of this if the damn production team would stop showing me constant pictures of Tony and Duncan and the crazy fan in row five in between pitches). There was a questionable call early in both at-bats in which Braun homered, a curve to fielder earlier in that inning and then the offending pitch, which I thought was low, but then again, I’m also not sitting right behind home plate catching the damn thing either.

I’ve seen Yadi questioning pitches before during games - usually just turning around and asking where the pitch was (I’m assuming) - but I think he had a legit gripe last night and that’s what took it to a whole different level.

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by fourstick on May 13, 2008 11:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Jim Edmonds to the Cubs?

Jayson Stark said this morning he thought it would happen. Discuss…

by birdjam on May 13, 2008 9:32 AM EDT   0 recs

can't...

too sick…

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by nomar34 on May 13, 2008 9:34 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It sucks

there is no loyalty in this game anymore.

Bleacher bums used to give him so much shit… i mean they gave it to him real bad.. I can’t even mention some of the things that were yelled at him without getting banned. Jimmy would even flip them the bird! I don’t understand why he would want to play for fans like that and I don’t understand by Cub fans want him.

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 10:24 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe.....

He doesn’t want to retire, and that is his only chance to keep playing?

by SoonerfanTU on May 13, 2008 10:37 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Cub fans

want Jimmy because their dumb enough to think their getting the JEd that killed them for so many years not the broken down JEd of today.

Jimmy wants to go there because the team is dumb enough to put him on the roster where he can cost them a game or two until they figure out what Cards did, sadly he’s done. We should be thanking Jimmy for still helping us out. Take one for the old club, suck up your pride, then suck it up for the cubbies.

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by That's a Winner on May 13, 2008 10:44 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ahhh, I see it now.

JEd is our version of baseball espoinage. Maybe he takes a golden sombrero in a September playoff race game. Maybe he dives for a ball that goes to the wall and clears the bases. Maybe he calls Adam Kennedy or TLR and gives away pitch tendencies.

Wow, you talk about taking one for the Cards. My hat is off to you Jimmy Baseball. If you’re willing to wear a Cub hat to help the Cards win, you should get a WS ring.

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by Eckstreem on May 13, 2008 3:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

is this serious?

the guy’s career is hanging by a thread. If he wants to keep playing, this is likely his only chance. You think he should turn this down b/c drunk Cub fans used to give him shit when he played for their archrival? If he’s not ready to retire, and teams (for whatever reason) want to keep paying him, more power to you, Jimmy!

by houstoncardinal on May 13, 2008 12:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

the money isn't an issue.

this guy has made millions and league min won’t even make a dent. Yes I know I dont know what it’s like to be a major leaguer but all I’m sayin is I wouldn’t do it.

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 12:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I get it, but I don't like it.

I still love Jimmy… I understand how the game works. It just sucks.

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by stltrav09 on May 13, 2008 12:39 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

no risk move for the Cubs.......

Felix Pie is a better defender than Edmonds at this point, but the Cubs are looking for a LH power bat in their line up right now and Pie is not going to give them the power they want. From what I hear Lou just has zero time/patience for Pie.

I don’t think Edmonds is going to provide what they need but he has hit for power in the past and the Cubs are in a win now mode and maybe they catch lighting in a bottle and they get Jimmy into a division where he knows the pitching and it just clicks…......

I am guessing if this works out Jim may be done for good.

I guess there was talk of Jim obviously most importantly not performing in SD, but secondly I guess he was kind of an ass in the clubhouse and did not fit in well with the team.

by ICbirdfan on May 13, 2008 10:30 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

perhaps

he could be a secret double-agent, spreading divisiveness and clubhouse unrest to spoil the Cubs chances? Some kind of under-the-table deal.

"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert

by BigMOman on May 13, 2008 10:41 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i'll bet this was the plan all along!

mozeliak is an evil genius. i expect our other players we got rid of to perform similar team-ruining deeds. the missourian candidates.

by mattybobo on May 13, 2008 10:45 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This can't be right, can it?

Chicago Sun-Times story:

But multiple Cubs sources said the team plans to pursue Edmonds, and one said Edmonds has told his agent to talk to no one before talking to the Cubs. The Cubs have considered a left-handed bat a need for weeks.

Edmonds was dumped unceremoniously by the Cardinals last winter in a trade for minor-league third baseman David Freese and is motivated by the opportunity to help a division rival beat his old team.</blockquote>

What? How’s F15teen gonna do if that’s his attitude? What’s more, there’s been a clamoring for a Jimmy Baseball farewell tour around these parts…

by bgh on May 13, 2008 12:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

There's no way

He understood the situation here in St. Louis, we weren’t expecting to contend and it was worth it to see what the young guys could do, if he didn’t get that then shame on him.

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on May 13, 2008 12:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that and we didn't dump him

He asked to be traded. And they got him traded that week to a team close to home.More than likely that’s just the writter adding a little zip to the story.

by Evilfrog on May 13, 2008 12:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Eh...

I still love the guy. He’s only human. It’s no fun to be told you’re old and washed up, even if it’s true.

by guayzimi on May 13, 2008 12:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I hate the "new press"

There’s no way that’s a direct quote, or it’d be in quotes.

That’s some dipshit writer for a paper adding his own 2 cents into that article to add a rivalry bent to it and make it more interesting. Another case of adding opinion in a liner that should be simply giving information.

He asked to be traded—Mo obliged, and it didn’t work out for him in San Diego. I don’t see how he can have any hard feelings about the way things turned out

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by fourstick on May 13, 2008 11:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I wonder how many home runs Edmonds has at Wrigley

maybe that has something to do with it. shouldn’t be too hard for him to hit it out of that place, even if he’s not quite what he used to be

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2008 2:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I just don't see how he would help them

He’s giving every indication to me that he’s lost it. His OPS+ is 38 right now. It was 88 last season, and has been declining every season since 2004.

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by Mr Redbird on May 13, 2008 1:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Especially...

when Barry Bonds is hanging out at home waiting for the phone to ring. Talk about power from the left side…

You put Soriano in center, Bonds in left, and keep Fukudome where he is. Pie stays on the roster as a defensive replacement.

by guayzimi on May 13, 2008 1:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree

I’m outraged because of sentimentality, not because of talent. The damage the sight of Jimmy Baseball in Cubbie pinstripes will do far outweighs any damage he will do offensively to propel them toward a Division title.

As an aside, what is Felix Pie’s thought process right now?

Setting: Interior. A nice, but not too nice, Chicago apartment. The phone is ringing. An athletically-built young man answers.

“Felix, this is Lou. Ah, you’re going back down to AAA Des Moines because we signed Jim Edmonds.”

“Ha ha, Lou, Very funny. Isn’t he hitting .177 right now and showing no range defensively?”

“Um, well, we’re only paying him the league minimum, so it’s wortht he gamble to management.”

“I’m being replaced in favor of Jim Edmonds! What year is it? 2003? No, no, it’s 2008. Are you on crack?! No, ya know what. No. F-- this, I’m outta here.”

by bgh on May 13, 2008 1:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Pie

I know you live in Des Moines bgh, and have probably had a chance to see Pie plenty over the last two years or so, as have I. So answer this for me:

Isn’t this a classic case of a guy being called up to early?

He absolutely rakes at AAA but doesn’t take a ton of good at-bats—basically a free-swinger who is good at making contact on pitches out of the zone. He never learned any plate discipline and, from what I’ve seen, MLB pitchers aren’t throwing him strikes and are letting him get himself out mostly.

That said, I think he just needs to play, play, play, not keep getting jerked around like Lou is doing to him. He’s a + defensive outfielder so I don’t understand why they don’t just stick him out there and let him figure things out. It’s not like they don’t have good bats at every other position…

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by fourstick on May 13, 2008 11:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Glaus

Everything I see from Glaus is good except for the fact that the ball’s not getting out of the ballpark. Yeah, Hart did take a homer away from him Sunday but even that one was just barely going to clear the fence. He has a ton of doubles but, seemingly, lacks the power he once had to drive the ball over the fence.

It reminds me of the Rolen situation from ‘06? When his shoulder was bothering him to the point where he couldn’t drive the ball. Now I don’t know that Glaus is injured, but that would explain his relative lack of power. Maybe it’s just age or maybe it’s just a funk. The problem w/ the “funk” theory is that, as LB describes, everything else looks so good—BB rate, K rate, etc. Why can’t he get the ball out of the ballpark? I can’t explain it.

by houstoncardinal on May 13, 2008 10:06 AM EDT   0 recs

I dunno

Rolen looked much worse, IMO. He couldn’t catch up to balls, and when he did hit weak little infield pop-ups. Glaus’ swing looks fine—its just not producing the results everyone’s used to.

by Ray Lankford on May 13, 2008 10:14 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

agreed

he’s pulled the ball hard an awful lot, just not qutie elevating it very much right now, and from the eyeball test it seems like he’s hit into a lot of bad luck/loud outs.

round bat, round ball…

go cards, o's, and phillies.

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by moboiler on May 13, 2008 10:23 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that's exactly my point

thank you for reinforcing it!

by houstoncardinal on May 13, 2008 1:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I see what you are saying

I guess I just don’t get the analogy to the Rolen situation because I could look at Rolen’s at bats and see why he wasn’t hitting: he didn’t have any bat speed and was upper-cutting everything, leading to weak pop outs. As I type this I think we might be talking past each other . . .

by Ray Lankford on May 13, 2008 2:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I can't explain it either

I have seen some balls that Glaus got real good wood on, but just died at the warning track. Kinda’ like what happened to Bob Hoerner his short time with the Cards.

by ridgesee on May 13, 2008 11:24 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Interesting point about Glaus' allergies

Sometimes we forget that athletes are human too and suffer from some of the same maladies as the rest of us—he says as he writes while suffering mightily from lilac(?) pollen…

by StanTheManFan on May 13, 2008 10:10 AM EDT   0 recs

Wainwright

I’m worried about Wainwright. His fastball had little zip last night. He basically tried to gut it out throwing tons of curves and, surprise, a changeup. I’d never seen Wainwright feature the change as much as he did last night. He’s got a lot of movement on that pitch but trouble throwing it for strikes.

Is Adam breaking down for overuse?

by jjray on May 13, 2008 10:15 AM EDT   0 recs

No

He has not been “overused”.

by SoonerfanTU on May 13, 2008 10:21 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

if you recall

he had to be shut down for two weeks about this time last year with tendonitis, (after his LA start, IIRC), and he has been abused this year with a couple of very long outings. Let’s hope this isn’t the same kind of thing, but that if it is, it is recognized and handled correctly. he was ridiculously good after coming back from that time off.

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by SleepyCA on May 13, 2008 1:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

but I wonder if last year was due to never starting at the MLB level??

Seems like all starting pitchers have “dead arm” times and sometimes skipping a start or getting them an extra day off or two works wonders.

Hard to say

by ICbirdfan on May 13, 2008 1:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wainer just had an off night.................

He has not been overused and he is still a young starter in that he has only started 40 career MLB games and the first half of last year he was not great either.

I saw him hit 91-92 a few times but he just looked off, missing on location and was not getting that borderline low strike.

I think people’s expectations of him are just too darn high right now, I saw the other day someone tried to call him a top 5 NL pitcher and I don’t agree about that.

by ICbirdfan on May 13, 2008 10:24 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

good point

we tend to think of him as much older and more established.

but he does it to himself with his stupid maturity and poise. ;-)

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by jealousblues on May 13, 2008 2:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree.

Adam only has himself to blame. We wouldn’t expect so much of him if he weren’t so competent and confident. :)

by cardsgirl95 on May 13, 2008 2:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

For some reason...

That ballpark plays havoc with our pitchers. I wouldn’t think anything of it.

"because at the end of the day they still are the Chicago Cubs"

by rockin the red on May 13, 2008 10:51 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

I think the pitchers have bad luck there. not a very scientific explanation, but they do fare pretty poorly there.

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2008 2:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Even good pitchers have bad days

Nothing to worry about unless this starts happening every time

by saladdays on May 13, 2008 10:54 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

the countrain nature of message boards

Had I posted that Wainwright just had an off night, nothing to worry about, there would be 5 posts begging to disagree claiming this is a harbinger of future doom. Glad to see some things never change. And hope that my concerns are unfounded.

by jjray on May 13, 2008 11:43 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

maybe just dead arm

hes been pitching like a champ all year and pushing himself and he is still young

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by jealousblues on May 13, 2008 2:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Tanking

I think this is the beginning of the 2008 tank. Izzy was the first crack, then the baserunning and defense. Now the starters. The offense has been overacheiving and still not putting up many runs. This team will sink to 4th place by the end of May and to under .500 by mid to late June.
The good news is that they are a fun team to watch and certain players are breaking out. They can still avoid the plunge, but the signs are there for free fall. The bullpen is disintegrating and the defense has cost the rotation badly. (Pujols missed popup, Ryan’s errors, Duncan, Kennedy’s missed popup all caused big innings leading to losses.) Once the starters lose faith in the bullpen, hitting, and the defense, they start pitching differently, and the results are usually disastrous. (See Wells, Kip or Marquis, Jason) The baserunning has also been a culprit a couple of times…I know Pujols is “the man”, but Oquendo gets paid to tell him to go or stop. Albert should pay attention. Teams….especially those in the Central…are wise to his antics and are not taken by surprise any longer. (He caught the Rockies off guard, but replays showed that he may have been given that call. The throw beat him, and we know what that usually means.)

I will continue to watch this team and I have even ordered more tickets. Moz has placed an entertaining product on the field and they have the potential to be even more exciting as some of the prospects move up. I think they will be strong in late 2008 and will be a legitimate contender in 09. I will not boo Izzy and I think he will come back strong. I will continue to campaign for Ludwick to play everyday and for the Cards to find new homes for Duncan and Reyes. Duncan is a pretty good first baseman…have you seen the AL list of 1b? You would think one of them could put this guy to good use.

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by Elvis on May 13, 2008 11:12 AM EDT   0 recs

I wish I could argue with your opinions

but they are pretty close to mine as well. I was hoping for a .500 season, and that looks reasonable with the good start we had. All things considered, 80ish wins would be a successful bridge season. But hey, I will be cheering and would love to be proven wrong.

by FunkeeC on May 13, 2008 12:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I brought this up last week and I

am going to bring it again. I don’t know what is going on with the outfield positioning. Did anybody else notice this that when Bush led off with Left field double, Shumaker was in his customary swing toward center; took long time to come into view of camera. After Kendall, move Bush to third, Shumaker was in a normal left field position and reached Weeks’ short drive to left with no trouble keeping Bush from scoring, but when Cameron followed with his double to left again, Shumaker was nowhere in sight; swung way over to center for Cameron, a right handed batter.
Now I ask, really what is going on with this positioning. And also It seems Isturis is often positioned too close to 2nd and away from the hole on right handed batters. The Cards have been hurt a good bit this season with key base hits to left through the hole. After all Gluas dosen’t have the range of Rolen, but it seems that the Cards still think Rolen is at third.

by ridgesee on May 13, 2008 11:52 AM EDT   0 recs

The positioning is largely based

on Dave Duncan’s “charts”; which are based on where hitters have hit in the past. If the pitcher (whoever he is) misses his location, the hitter may hit the ball someplace other than where they “expect” him to…

No defensive positioning is perfect, but it seems to me the Cardinals are in position to make plays far more often than they’re out of position…

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by The Ol Goaler on May 13, 2008 12:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

especially against teams within the division..........

You have a good book on players and you try to gain every little advantage you have. Like OL Goater said, lot’s of it is dependent on pitchers hitting spots.

by ICbirdfan on May 13, 2008 12:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

and I think some of this explains why the likes of Michael Bourn

and the really good hitters are the ones killing us—they are far more able to place their hits than other hitters are

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on May 13, 2008 12:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Which is good if you've got

a staff of control pitchers that can hit their spots. but if they can’t, you’re just playing out of position and that seems to me to be the case hereto me.

by ridgesee on May 13, 2008 2:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I sure would like to know

what Duncan’s little good book says on pitching to Berkman and Braun

by ridgesee on May 13, 2008 2:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Duncan

His charts on Berkman should read like this:

1. Roof open - bust his hands and look to back door him with breaking stuff
2. Roof closed - f* it—Ball Four!

(If I have to see another flipped bat opposite field homer with the roof closed in that little bandbox I’m going to puke….

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on May 13, 2008 11:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree on the bad positioning

With Ankiel’s very good range in CF I also do not understand the bunch positioning. I have not seen the outfield this bunched in the past and I think it is hurting the team as well.

by indakind on May 13, 2008 12:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah, I think they can all get around well enough to not have bunch positioning all the time

Hopefully jr. Duncan’s defense isn’t somehow contagious

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 13, 2008 2:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I cried

the day jimmy baseball left the cardinals. I cannot recall a player more fun to watch

Losing is a disease

by ANDYAK47 on May 13, 2008 2:56 PM EDT   0 recs

Lineup per Mike Smith at Cards Talk

Barton lf
Ryan 2b
Pujols 1b
Ludwick rf
Glaus 3b
Ankiel cf
Molina c
Lohse p
Izturis ss

Pirates
Sanchez 2b
McLouth cf
Bay lf
Doumit c
Nady rf
LaRoche 1b
Bautista 3b
Bixler ss
Dumatrait p

by StLHugo on May 13, 2008 4:48 PM EDT   0 recs

I like our lefthanded lineup

Wish dread and shoulder biter got more starts.

by jjray on May 13, 2008 4:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

lineup against LHP you mean?

thats what I assume anyway

by StLHugo on May 13, 2008 4:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This is one of the best lineups we can put out there, IMO

Maybe if you push Ryan over to SS and Kennedy at 2B, then switch Kennedy and Ryan in the batting order.

I sure would like to see Troy Glaus get on an extended hot streak

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by Mr Redbird on May 13, 2008 5:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs