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Game 40 Open Thread: May 12 2008

St. Louis Cardinals at Milwaukee Brewers, May 12, 2008 8:05 PM EDT


Wainwright Bush
3-1, 2.25 0-4, 6.98

cards have only lost one series all year long --- to the giants, at home (ouch). they've won 7 series, split 4.

yadi's batting 2d today --- first time he's ever started a game in any of the top 3 positions in the order. in today's main thread somebody suggested that yadi might be the slowest #2 hitter ever; on a whim, i looked up ken reitz's page at B-R to see if he ever started a game in the 2 hole. sure enough, he did --- one time, in this july 1974 game. i reckon ol' reitzie was probably faster than yadi, though . . . . .

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Let's go Cards

Win for the split, but more importantly, win for Wainwright. The offense/bullpen has really been letting him down lately. He should easily be a 5 or even 6 game winner by now with the way he’s been pitching.

by stl tyler on May 12, 2008 7:26 PM EDT reply actions  

The old Zamboni

Glad someone remembers.

"If I ain't startin' I ain't departin'"

by templetown on May 12, 2008 7:29 PM EDT reply actions  

we really, really need a game like that.

Also so that AW isn’t asked to throw 8+ innings.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 12, 2008 7:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Just thinking..

Missed the entire day yesterday due to some work and lots of driving, but read the game threads, wow.

But then I got to think a minute. When the season first began I thought that we would be sitting just under .500 around now and hoping the Pirates come to town so we could have a chance to not be the worst in the central (which can be like being the Ugliest Volvo. I mean, come on).

But we’re not. We’re a cluster of games above .500 and in first, if only barely. We have been getting production from a group of outfielders that frankly, was hard to see. I mean, we have the “oldest..youngest” outfield in the game, and all in all they’re providing us with some reasonable production across the board.

We have a staff that almost every media considers duct taped together. But those bullpen boys are really stepping it up as starters. Frankly, if you look at the actual money on the 25 man roster, I can’t help to be impressed.

Our pair of SS’s aren’t making me miss the older version of ‘Scrappy Doo’ all that much as they can actually field the ball. And while our third baseman has been boring as of late to say the least with the bat, his performance on the field isn’t making me miss the old 3rd baseman dramas that we’ve had the past few years.

And we’re not stuck. We have some depth in the pen and even some doses in starters should we need it. We don’t have to scrape for a pitcher this year, we may even have a few to get rid of. We have some talent building down there that’s making me pay attention to Memphis more and more.

We have some trade chips, even though they may be mediocre at best, and we’re not at our ceiling as a club at all.

So for one day at least, I don’t care about October, the ‘streak’, the missing thunder, the iffy bullpen and the headcase closer. I’m not stressed about the series, the road trip, or how on fire Pit is coming to see us tomorrow (though I’ll note how hot Houston was.. and how well we cooled them off).

I’m just going to sit back and enjoy some baseball, watch our boys play and thank goodness that we’re not the Padres

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 12, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

can i get an amen!

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on May 12, 2008 7:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

well said

Imagine the Cardinals winning it all in 2008

by Johnny64 on May 12, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't hate on volvos

i have two of them.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on May 13, 2008 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

Wolf won't matter

the Cubs are outscoring their opponents in the 8th inning 476 to 12, or so it seems. Seems like every game at Wrigley, they either take the lead in the 8th inning or tack on 5 insurance runs in the 8th.

by Hardcore Legend on May 12, 2008 8:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

the cubs really have gained my attention

after the D-Backs sweet. I knew they were good, but…

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

yadi in the 2 hole

this is the game where he busts out his tactically hidden speed…i see 2 sb’s and a triple in his future

by VolsnCards5 on May 12, 2008 8:03 PM EDT reply actions  

When you say future

you mean the rest of his career, right?

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by Mr Redbird on May 12, 2008 8:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pull up Gameday

Is it just me or is Bush Skip’s twin?

by thisgirllovesbaseball on May 12, 2008 8:07 PM EDT reply actions  

That might have been the slowest play all around in the history of baseball

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 8:09 PM EDT reply actions  

NICE!!!!

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 8:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Here comes back to back homers

by stl tyler on May 12, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Bush heard that

And threw four straight balls to Studwick.

by stl tyler on May 12, 2008 8:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Slick Rick

Gonna have a hot game tonight

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by Mr Redbird on May 12, 2008 8:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Wooo!

Stylin’ and profilin’

by bgh on May 12, 2008 8:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

as long as there is no talk of what he does up on space mountain

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by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

no respect for duncan?

Punish them, lil’D.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 12, 2008 8:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Bush a sidearmer?

Watching the pitch release on gameday, the release looks very low and wide to the 3rd base side.

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by ColinMacLeod on May 12, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply actions  

I knew Ankiel was going to hit a HR tonight

when I saw a van go by the said Ankiel is the Lord on it

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

On a night like tonight

When Pujols sits out… I should make that my UserName.

by Pujols Is A God on May 12, 2008 8:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I like seeing Dunc hit one in the air, even if it was an out

before, when he was showing no power, he wasn’t getting any lift on any thing

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 12, 2008 8:14 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, alittle opposite gapper

not a bad ride

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 8:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

after 4 straight balls to luddy

I can’t believe that ump called either of those called strikes on Duncan. One was way high and one was way low; forcing him to swing at a pitchers pitch on 1-2.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 12, 2008 8:15 PM EDT reply actions  

i like my strike zone with grit

and scrap

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by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 8:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

you mean it was the actual size of aaron miles, right

not the size of miles’ zone, that is too funny

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on May 12, 2008 8:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was at the game yesterday

the team seemed really subdued. not to mention the uncharacteristically bad baserunning. Ludwick’s homer was awesome though (albeit almost foul). Looper needed to have the roof open with the sun I think. Suppan looked unstoppable btw

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 8:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Why do we pitch to him?

Seriously, WHY?

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 12, 2008 8:20 PM EDT reply actions  

why only fastballs??

that pitch was just laid over the middle of the plate

by TxCardFan on May 12, 2008 8:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Also, i'd like to thank the moron Hrabosky for conviently saying...

“Braun hasn’t been very good versus Wainwright” right before the HR

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 12, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

wow that was mashed...

what a time for me to get on VEB tonight

by TxCardFan on May 12, 2008 8:21 PM EDT reply actions  

I had to sit through 2 of those

yesterday. Miller Park is very cool though

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm afraid

he’s going to be a thorn in our sides for a very, very long time.

by spants on May 12, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'd like to see one of our pitchers give him a brushback

instead of letting him camp right on top of the plate

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 12, 2008 8:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bob Gibson style!!!!

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by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

after the start to this season I thought he may be a fluke. guess I was wrong

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 8:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not me...

I knew he’d come around. Watching him last year, there was just too much offensive talent there to stay contained.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 12, 2008 8:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

after that HR (and duncan's out)

he’s now outhitting Chris Duncan. Sigh.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 12, 2008 8:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too many flies so far for WW

He needs to induce more grounders against these guys. Milwaukee has some power hitters.

by StanTheManFan on May 12, 2008 8:24 PM EDT reply actions  

man of troy

needs to pick waino up here.

It could be worse, you could be on fire.

by themanthemyth on May 12, 2008 8:25 PM EDT reply actions  

that looked like it hurt

time to call up Freese*

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on May 12, 2008 8:26 PM EDT reply actions  

I think Uncle Rico comes first :(

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Troy Glaus swung hard

fell over and it looked like he might have hurt his knee.

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh to see Mather

and that is completely serious

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on May 12, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

strikezone

looks awful small on gameday

It could be worse, you could be on fire.

by themanthemyth on May 12, 2008 8:27 PM EDT reply actions  

agree

and glaus should have been running.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 12, 2008 8:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just typing a comment

about why this was an opportunity to show why I like the NL and WW goes and lays down a nice sac bunt. Ah, well, maybe WW can help his own cause in the 4th.

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by ColinMacLeod on May 12, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Er, not a sac bunt, but a FC.

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by ColinMacLeod on May 12, 2008 8:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Iz2 shoots the gap

between 1st and 2nd

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by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 8:30 PM EDT reply actions  

are you psychic

or is FSN that far behind the radio?

by DarkHelmut on May 12, 2008 8:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

I really just wanted to be funny with the whole gap between 1st and 2nd thing

who knew he’d put it in play effectively

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by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

iz2 double bagger

nice

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by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 8:31 PM EDT reply actions  

AHHHHH!

Asteroids are falling! It’s the end of the world!

AHHHHH!

A double for Izturis!

Lord, save us!

by bgh on May 12, 2008 8:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sorry

I’m at the law library “studying” for finals. Following the game on GameCast.

by bgh on May 12, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

the baseball gods know

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

it wasnt right at him

he had to run to the line, and spin around away from the field of play bc he is a lefty

thats where the drop happened

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by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

stupid logic

Ryan is going to sit regardless of what Iz2 hits, Iz2 could hit under .100 and TLR would start him. So you might as well root for Izturis to play well

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 12, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

One thing that really pisses me off about this team

is that the hitters don’t seem to know who the hell they are.

Dave Bush can’t throw strikes, goes down 2-0 to Kennedy and Uppercut is hacking away. Then, TLR has Wainwright bunting? What the hell for? So Izturis can get an RBI opportunity? So Skippy can weakly groundout to an infielder?

It’s shit like that why the Cardinals strand so many baserunners. Not playing smart baseball.

by Hardcore Legend on May 12, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah, that swing on 2-0

rankled me too.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 12, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Schumaker is slumping terribly

our offense tends to go the way of Skippys bat

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 12, 2008 8:32 PM EDT reply actions  

barely over .200 the last 2 weeks for Skip

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on May 12, 2008 8:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just about to ask

What’s the over/under on Skippy’s OBP on June 1?

by bgh on May 12, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

this team is not mentally tough enough

to stay within themselves and just do their jobs. Everybody thinks he has to be the hero, or so it seems.

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on May 12, 2008 8:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

just inexperienced

n/t

It could be worse, you could be on fire.

by themanthemyth on May 12, 2008 8:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's where coaches come in

I’ve coached basketball and tennis, and inexperience is overcome by training and coaching as much as by actually playing the games

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on May 12, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

I wear my sunglasses at night

So I can, so I can see

TLR wears his sunglasses at night

So Dusy can’t read, can’t read his eyes….

by bgh on May 12, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I can't watch Ank's HR on Gameday

Anyone else having this problem? Braun’s HR plays fine (man, did he crush that thing), but Ankiel’s shot refuses to play!

by dan on May 12, 2008 8:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm watching the Brewer feed

out here is California. Notice the look Pujols was giving the end of the bench Glaus was sitting on. I’m glad to see that. I hope it hastens the seeming inevitable.

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 12, 2008 8:35 PM EDT reply actions  

what kind of look was it?

If it was one of disgust, then why would you be glad to see it? Are you a fan of discord in the locker room?

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 12, 2008 8:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Troy has been

bounced around quite a bet in recent years. Some of you fans seem to be in denial about that. Perhaps his stature, rugged good looks, and wonderful STATS are enough for you. It was a cheap no hustle play and cost a run. Pujols was looking and the producers thought they would show that shot.

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 12, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

of course he had just hurt his leg

that might have had something to do with him not looking like he was hustling

* sarcasm might be involved in this comment

by mattyfrommo on May 12, 2008 8:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

i keep looking up to see pujols in the 3rd spot

him not being there is so weird

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by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Zambrano

I know its only the third inning, so I’m trying to nip this in the bud early… he is NO HITTING the Pads.

I hope he keeps his NO HITTER going.

NO HITTER NO HITTER NO HITTER!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 12, 2008 8:39 PM EDT reply actions  

dangit

I thought I got it in just in time.

poop

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 12, 2008 8:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok...

How about, I hope he keeps this SHUTOUT going

SHUTOUT, SHUTOUT, SHUTOUT!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 12, 2008 8:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

no hitter

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

it worked

pads got a hit off of him… YAY!

now score some runs Pads!!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 12, 2008 8:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon Luddy

Launch one!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 12, 2008 8:42 PM EDT reply actions  

a single will work

your time to shine Dunc!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 12, 2008 8:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I dont think he was out

as much as I disagree with sending him

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

wow, that wasn't even close at second

luddy was in there.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 12, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Ouch

The throw was in plenty of time but I thought he might have been in before the tag got down.

by stl tyler on May 12, 2008 8:45 PM EDT reply actions  

how does the throw beat him

when Gameday has the pitch as a 60 mph curveball?

Was he running backwards?

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on May 12, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

69 mph

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on May 12, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

These umpires

Suck. All year long. So many errors in the other team’s favor, its sickening

by riotmute on May 12, 2008 8:46 PM EDT reply actions  

or the team in general

there is no one person more guilty of LOB than anyone else.

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by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 8:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

coulda been a triple

Schu was, surprisingly, way out of position.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 12, 2008 8:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

great play on that one though ;)

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 12, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Lined shot, then dp

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by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 8:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

C'mon Wagonmaker,

hunker down!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 12, 2008 8:49 PM EDT reply actions  

wait until June when we only have like 9 home games

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on May 12, 2008 8:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah we better get used to the road

this road trip coulda been a lot worse: could have been swept by the rockies

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 8:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

geez

the brewers haven’t seen a first pitch they didn’t like. it seems like they are all eager to swing.

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on May 12, 2008 8:52 PM EDT reply actions  

i think that bouncer missed the pads on yadi

ouch

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by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 8:53 PM EDT reply actions  

pessimist

"I forgot to get the lucky peanut!" -Mike Shannon

by MolinasMyHero on May 12, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

What is that?

Braun’s second walk of the season?

by bgh on May 12, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

8th

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on May 12, 2008 8:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

wainer

doesn’t look right… i think he’ll gut up and pull through

"because at the end of the day they still are the Chicago Cubs"

by rockin the red on May 12, 2008 8:56 PM EDT reply actions  

come on ace

you can do it!

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by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 8:57 PM EDT reply actions  

that's nasty

"I forgot to get the lucky peanut!" -Mike Shannon

by MolinasMyHero on May 12, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

does skip think he is the fastest man alive?

it seems like he always plays WAY off the line. (I know Prince is a pull-hitter, it just seemed like Skip has played that way a lot)

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on May 12, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

im sure if TLR didnt like where he was

he would move him

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by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 8:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok

does tony think skip is the fastest man alive?

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by Molina4MVP on May 12, 2008 8:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Sit Down Veggie Boy!!!!!!!!!!

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 8:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow.

Ace status. That was some tough pitching.

by bgh on May 12, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

one more

this is where aces are made

by VolsnCards5 on May 12, 2008 8:59 PM EDT reply actions  

now that was shitty

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by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

OMFG

"I forgot to get the lucky peanut!" -Mike Shannon

by MolinasMyHero on May 12, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

boo

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on May 12, 2008 9:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Umm

I guess he failed his audition for Dancing with the stars?

by swmrnbk on May 12, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

you have got to be kidding me

by TxCardFan on May 12, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

well

we’ve got our work cut out for us now

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Game over.

Poor performance by Wainwright and terrible play by Kennedy

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 12, 2008 9:02 PM EDT reply actions  

pessimist

"I forgot to get the lucky peanut!" -Mike Shannon

by MolinasMyHero on May 12, 2008 9:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

err, realist

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on May 12, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

It's the 3rd f'n inning, what the hell is with the game over stuff

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by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a believer that Bush cant keep us down

lets get the rally caps going guys!!!!

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Awful pitchers like Bush

are just the type of guys that keep the Cardinals down.

And quite frankly, there aren’t enough innings left for the Cardinals to scratch across 6 runs.

by Hardcore Legend on May 12, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

what did Kennedy do?

no tv here

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on May 12, 2008 9:03 PM EDT reply actions  

played a popup behind first too lazily and dropped it

"I forgot to get the lucky peanut!" -Mike Shannon

by MolinasMyHero on May 12, 2008 9:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

you would have thought

he was trying to catch it with his hat

"because at the end of the day they still are the Chicago Cubs"

by rockin the red on May 12, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not going to wast my breath

But this is what happens when one player relaxes.

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on May 12, 2008 9:04 PM EDT reply actions  

now you blame albert

for taking a day off? For the love of god, man.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 12, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

nah

he’s still hating on glaus.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 12, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

the way it looks

so do we.

Come on boys! Lets get out of this without bleeding out.

Get em back in the next frame.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 12, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

huh?

oh I get it. at least we won’t go to .500 today no matter what

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 9:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

apparently, so do we…

"I forgot to get the lucky peanut!" -Mike Shannon

by MolinasMyHero on May 12, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Stupid baseball

That’s what the Cardinals have been playing lately. Giving up outs/giving the other team outs.

by Hardcore Legend on May 12, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

crap

you mean we’ve been playing like the cubs?

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 9:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

wainwright was due

for one of these…we have screwed him two times in a row…that has to take a mental toll

by VolsnCards5 on May 12, 2008 9:05 PM EDT reply actions  

the whole team is

going through a struggle right now

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on May 12, 2008 9:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

haven’t we won or tied every series so far? not a big deal if we lose one

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

with Ned copying TLR

in everything recently, I think the Cards are confuse who manager is who.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 12, 2008 9:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

when I was at the game yesterday

all the players seemed like they were really bored. not good.

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

confused*

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 12, 2008 9:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Which is worse...

Tino’s start with the Cards or Troy’s?

"because at the end of the day they still are the Chicago Cubs"

by rockin the red on May 12, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions  

that's tough

I’d say Tino. at least Troy has amazing D so far and lots of doubles

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glaus' defense

has been exceptional thus far. If he started producing there might be some consideration of a GG…

"because at the end of the day they still are the Chicago Cubs"

by rockin the red on May 12, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

raconteur, offer some insight

instead of just bitching game after game after game. don’t you ever get tired of it?

by lboros on May 12, 2008 9:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

still mad that I boo Izzy?

and before you deny it, there are countless other people who bitch on a daily basis that you don’t say a thing to.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 12, 2008 9:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

im going to start bitching

bc im not drinking any franklins tonight

and this game desieres them

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

que?

"I forgot to get the lucky peanut!" -Mike Shannon

by MolinasMyHero on May 12, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm talking to you

not to other people. your attitude poisons the thread on a nightly basis. read the community guidelines: “there’s a difference between making a critical point and pounding your fists on the floor. if all you have to offer is the latter, do not post. “

that’s all you bring to the table dude - pounding your fists on the floor.

by lboros on May 12, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I could argue that...

but what’s the point? It’s your website, and I’ll abide by your word and stop.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 12, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

really, luddy should have caught that

but he was lined up in the gap as well. I’m really not understanding the OF positioning the last week or so…

AK went a long, long way and just didn’t quite squeeze it. It was a much tougher play than it looked like.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 12, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

and to note, Kennedy may be a lot of things, but generally his defense is quite above average, lambasting him as tee ball quality based on one play is a little… absurd.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 12, 2008 9:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

I hope so

Will Gaetti and Brunansky guest appear?

by bgh on May 12, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

i miss that guy

"I forgot to get the lucky peanut!" -Mike Shannon

by MolinasMyHero on May 12, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

With the coaches helmet

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 9:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

pessimistic guys are

the guys that don’t get laid because they are afraid they’ll be turned down

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by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 9:13 PM EDT reply actions  

he's annoying me too

but let’s not get personal here

"I forgot to get the lucky peanut!" -Mike Shannon

by MolinasMyHero on May 12, 2008 9:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

you're right, I'll play nice

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by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 9:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

OMG!

Wow….just wow.

Good work

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 12, 2008 9:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

Remember people

It’s just a game. or 1/162nd of a game

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 9:18 PM EDT reply actions  

needed that DP right there

alright Men, tighten up those bootstraps and get your boots on the ground. we got a war goin on here and we need all hands on deck.

GO CARDS!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 12, 2008 9:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Skip,

time to bust out of this slump thing you got goin.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 12, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

Well,

maybe next time.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 12, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

great

don’t we play tampa bay after the pirates? they are doing pretty well, eh?

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 9:22 PM EDT reply actions  

5 over .500

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by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 9:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

When the 'stros

were hot and we played them, we quieted them down quite well. 2 for 3 and the third was very much in grasp

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 12, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rays

are up on their WHIPPING BOYS (NYY) right now, 6-0.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 12, 2008 9:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

awesome

I thought that team would never do anything

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not just this at bat, but in general

Where in the hell is Skips plate patience as of late? That seemed to be the cornerstone of his surge in mid-late April and seems to all but be gone, in general it seems that we’re seeing a lot more first pitch swings from him.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 12, 2008 9:23 PM EDT reply actions  

no power usually leads to no walks

Since the pitchers just start pouring in strikes knowing the batter isn’t going to hurt them much.

by DriverZn on May 12, 2008 9:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think you're right

Those high OBP, low power hitters are rare. It’s an odd combination of patience and aggression, a good eye, lots of leg doubles, & the occasional triple to the corners. Brett Butler could do that, and so could Ozzie. Not so sure about Skip, but he’s already turned into a better ballplayer than I ever thought he could be.

by random on May 12, 2008 10:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

This is too bad...

I was hoping we would come out hitting on all cylinders but that’s not the case tonight. Hopefully we can make it a game over the next couple of innings. 3-5 does seem like a world of difference from 4-4.

by Brownale on May 12, 2008 9:24 PM EDT reply actions  

wow

talk about hot

"I forgot to get the lucky peanut!" -Mike Shannon

by MolinasMyHero on May 12, 2008 9:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Can someone please tazer him!!!

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

He doesn't need to be

any more charged up than he already is.

by spants on May 12, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, but it might cause him to spasm mid swing...

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by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah

if that last pitch to Braun was where Gameday had it, then anyone coulda crushed it.

by spants on May 12, 2008 9:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Note to NL

Um, we just woke up Braun, ... you may want to respect his bat now, the bear is out of hibernation”

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 12, 2008 9:27 PM EDT reply actions  

good god

I’ve resorted to watching American Gladiators

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 9:28 PM EDT reply actions  

house > gladiators

"I forgot to get the lucky peanut!" -Mike Shannon

by MolinasMyHero on May 12, 2008 9:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

sorry

hate all hospital, cop, and lawyer shows

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 9:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well with a bright side

Don’t really have to shoehorn Waino into a complete game. Sadly enough

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 12, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Crap, now LaRue has to play

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 9:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Yadi ejected?

what the crap happened there?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 12, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

He was pissed about the last pitch

which I agree with Yadi, was a strike.

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 9:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

it looked like

the umps weren’t that great yesterday either. saw them call some low and outside pitches strikes

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice

at least it’s a tide change

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 9:31 PM EDT reply actions  

he may get suspended

did he make contact…looks like he may have…and leaving the equipment at the umps feet is over the top

by VolsnCards5 on May 12, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

they need to eject the umpire

bc it would be fun

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 9:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ick...

The wimpiness of this country these days disgusts me. I’m not saying we should go back to the days of Babe Ruth punching out an umpire, but dropping your stuff at an umpire’s feet to make a point you’re disgusted with him should not result in an ejection if it hits his foot.

Start Ludwick

by DiscoJer on May 12, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

at least it isnt like the nba

they are barely allowed to play basketball anymore with the quick flagarants and techs that fly around, i really hate it

i like a clean hard nosed game, most sports are physical and emotions happen

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 9:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 12, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

yup

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 9:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe this will fire the team up for a turn around?

it really cant hurt too much

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Now TLR is gone

this just isnt our night.

hopefully theyll prove me wrong

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 12, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

I was referring to the ejections themselves

when is the last time two of our guys got ejected during the game? Though, having Lash LaRue in the two hole will almost certainly not help.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 12, 2008 9:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Paging Brian Anderson....

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

good job, tony

maybe that’ll fire the boys up.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 12, 2008 9:33 PM EDT reply actions  

losers

we will never win until tony and his stupid moves are gobe from saint louis

by larussasucks on May 12, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

seems so

sigh, hope they changed IP addresses after getting huffy, otherwise they’ll feel silly with both accounts banned

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 12, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Welcome to the site

Enjoy the fifteen minutes you have before your account is terminated, troll

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by Mr Redbird on May 12, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

just like to point out that this guy is not me

i dont hide behind fake accounts to show my displeasure at this team

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 12, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't mind

We need to go back to St. Louis the same way we left. Pissed at the world and fired up. If it takes this, so be it. But to be fair, Tony has had lots of other situations where he should have been ejected before.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 12, 2008 9:34 PM EDT reply actions  

to late to cry now tony

by larussasucks on May 12, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

It's probably about time to get Wainright out.

No point in him continuing to pitch in this one.

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on May 12, 2008 9:35 PM EDT reply actions  

no way

the bull pen has worked enough

by ICbirdfan on May 12, 2008 9:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed

keep his workload up some, but pull before fatigue

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 12, 2008 9:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually this makes more sense

thought it was later in the game

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ump's fault?

I’m watching the game on FSN Wisconsin with my MLB Extra Innings package and the Brewer’s announcers are making a good point. They said that if the umpire doesn’t come around in front of Molina to wipe of the plate and “make his point” does Molina get run from the game? Then, does TLR? Probably not on either account. The ump misplayed that a bit. (Plus, he’s missed about 4 strike/ball calls just this inning…but I’m slightly bias.)

by stlfan on May 12, 2008 9:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes, it was the umps fault

Molina acted like a child, but the ump stepped in front of Molina to start a confrontation.

by Hardcore Legend on May 12, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

sticking up for your pitcher is acting like a child?

we have no idea what exactly was being said, no need to lay onto yadi

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

he was already ejected

gotta get your money’s worth then

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i didnt mean that the ending was how it should be

but i like it when players stick up for each other in a reasonable situation, and that missed curve against fielder seemed to start it, and it was a pretty good looking pitch

should he of stripped at home, no, but i would figure our pitcher likes the backup yadi gave him….i would

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Umps (the last year or so)

seem to be going out of their way to interfere with games and players. WTF?

by spants on May 12, 2008 9:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take that to leadoff the rally

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Rally caps, gentlemen

It’s early and Bush is on the hill

by bgh on May 12, 2008 9:38 PM EDT reply actions  

yes

let’s show Bush just who he is

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 9:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

a LaRue hit

must mean something…

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 9:39 PM EDT reply actions  

means he had better keep it up

if yadi gets a few days off via the league office

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

he might

like the two hole…

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on May 12, 2008 9:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think he likes it 5 hole

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on May 12, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

Larue

“Hold my stash Yadi, I got yo back”

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 12, 2008 9:40 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey Yadi

Watch your cornhole

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by Mr Redbird on May 12, 2008 9:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

ouch

“it’s outside and low, strike called”

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 9:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Leadoff double

Doesn’t score. Not a surprise, unfortunately.

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by Mr Redbird on May 12, 2008 9:44 PM EDT reply actions  

it was a mirage

LaRue didn’t actually get a hit

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

when LaRue of all people get a double and Rick, Luddy, and Dunc don’t break the infield.

You just know it’s not our night

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 12, 2008 9:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Joe Mather Homered in the 1st inning for Memphis

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 9:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Might as well get Izzy some work

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Man oh man

Not a good final act of the road trip.

by bgh on May 12, 2008 9:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Break out the Tom Petty song

Free Fallin…. Our offense is getting really bad.

by KYCards on May 12, 2008 9:47 PM EDT reply actions  

80 pitches

He’s almost out, poor guy.

I use statistics much as a drunken man uses lamp-posts – as support rather than illumination. - Andrew Lang

by AdjustedExpectations on May 12, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Gagne is warming up...

might not be over

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 9:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Hey, I'm trying here...

don’t steal what little hope I have left

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

He hit

91 this inning, but yeah, it’s down over all.

by spants on May 12, 2008 9:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

4 runs

Off of the slovenly French Canadian?

by bgh on May 12, 2008 9:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brewers have had some timely hits tonight.

They’ve only left 1 guy on base all night.

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on May 12, 2008 9:51 PM EDT reply actions  

haven't been to a game since 2005 at Busch II

couldn’t believe a cup of Miller Lite was $7.50 at Miller Park

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 12, 2008 9:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Al just said

Troy Glaus has the all time best save pct

The only one who liked the Cardinals so much he became a St. Louis Cardinals football fan.

by coachnick39 on May 12, 2008 9:54 PM EDT reply actions  

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