Game 38 overflow

but the GameDay pitch trajectories show another one like it in that at-bat that was called a ball. The two dots overlap. Is GameDay just full of cr*p, or what?

by StanTheManFan on May 10, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Expected

This team is just awful right now….

by DKelly28 on May 10, 2008 6:19 PM EDT reply reply 0 recs

They really need a win here

this team needs some good vibes, pronto.

by liam on May 10, 2008 6:20 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

I thought Ronny V. was the one that was holding shit down

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by Mr Redbird on May 10, 2008 6:19 PM EDT reply reply 0 recs

Surprise, surprise . . . .over under on this inning?

by akaitori on May 10, 2008 6:19 PM EDT reply reply 0 recs

Really tired

of our starters pitching effectively and the offense not scoring enough runs to give ‘em victories for the effort.

by liam on May 10, 2008 6:19 PM EDT reply reply 0 recs

Springer in

I’m about 3% confident in his ability to get us to the 9th tied

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by Mr Redbird on May 10, 2008 6:20 PM EDT reply reply 0 recs

crap

I’m out

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 10, 2008 6:21 PM EDT reply reply 0 recs

correction, heart attack at 25...

by davethebutcher on May 10, 2008 6:21 PM EDT reply reply 0 recs

Fire Hal McRae

He is the worst hitting coach I’ve ever seen.

by DKelly28 on May 10, 2008 6:22 PM EDT reply reply 0 recs

why

are you talking hal mcrae right now?? does he coach the bullpen??

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by dangpenguins on May 10, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

No...

but the bullpen wouldnt be the focus if the Cards werent scoring 3 runs a game while leaving double digit runners on base a game.

by DKelly28 on May 10, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

It's fair to say

we wouldn’t be having this double digit LOB rates if it wasn’t for Hal, so can’t take bits and peices and blast the rest

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 10, 2008 6:29 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Outside of Pujols, whom did you expect (not hope) would be nails offensively on this team? I hoped that Duncan would live up to some of his past. I hoped Ankiel would provide the protection that Edmonds couldn’t any longer. I hoped that Glaus would provide more than Rolen has the last few year.

I wouldn’t say you could expect any of those things. You don’t ask a guy to build an house without inspecting the materials you gave him. This team should have fairly low OPS expectations nearly across the board. Unfortunately, they pulled a bait and switch with the early season success. This isn’t a coaching issue. This is an issue of a team of young, mostly light-hitting offensive players. We all should have known we were in for this.

by etp_stl on May 10, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

I don't know

We have a .790 OPS as a team with RISP, which is 4th in the NL. We should be scoring more runs and we aren’t and I just can’t figure out why; I think we are due for a landslide.

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by SleepyCA on May 10, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

What has been the trend on that number?

I haven’t done the homework, so I’m asking. I would venture to believe it has been in decline recently. We seemed to get some exceptional timely hitting and starting pitching that none of us expected. It seems like we are regressing back to the norm. I don’t know that we can reasonably expect guys like Schumaker to maintain his high OPS. We have Miles, Schumaker, Kennedy, Molina, Ryan, and Izturis who are clearly slap hitters. That is a large portion of your batting order on any given night. In addition, Duncan and Glaus really haven’t been providing enough compared to expectations. (Though, Glaus has produced more than his hitting numbers should indicate.)

by etp_stl on May 10, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

yeah, not the time to attack him.

neither does it seem like he is in fact the worst hitting coach around.

by tom s. on May 10, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

and if anyone is going to blame hal

isn’t Larry Walker hanging around this week? I think he’s been with the team since the start of the Rockies series. So blaming the hitting staff when it’s the BP doesn’t make sense.

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 10, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Blame the dieticians

from this point forward, all Cardinals are vegans. Pronto.

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 10, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

prince is vegetarian, not vegan.

but yes, maybe more soy protein would do it.

by tom s. on May 10, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Do you remember Mike Easler?

McRae has helped the team become MUCH more patient than their previous years would indicate. I think you’re off-base here.

by etp_stl on May 10, 2008 6:27 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

good point.

the thing, why is this guy bringing up mcrae right now. what has Hal done?

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by dangpenguins on May 10, 2008 6:29 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

Being patient

doesn’t mean crap when you don’t get the runners in. Walking more is nice and all but doesn’t mean squat if the runners don’t score.

by DKelly28 on May 10, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

So, OBP means nothing?

The popular sentiment (and I’m beginning to come around to it) is that OBP is extremely important. However, this is showing why the S on OPS is so important. You still have to have somebody that can drive in runs. The Cards have Pujols, who is getting pitched around. The Cards have Ludwick, who plays more sparingly than he has earned. The Cards have Duncan, who has shown little run production this year. The Cards have Glaus, who is producing runs despite an horrific BA. They have Ankiel, who is going to be streaky as he is still learning.

This is the issue that caused most of us not to believe in spring. We got blinded by some exceptional pitching early in the season, but it is catching up to us now. A coach can preach patience, but he can’t turn a career .700 OPS guy into a .900 OPS guy. Sorry.

by etp_stl on May 10, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

i bet

springer gets us through this inning

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by jealousblues on May 10, 2008 6:22 PM EDT reply reply 0 recs

I think springer can actually bring some stability

when healthy he was really good last year. And all our pitchers can’t get too old to pitch all at once… can they??

by TxCardFan on May 10, 2008 6:24 PM EDT reply reply 0 recs

are they old? are they tired from last season? injured from overuse last season? what's up?

by tom s. on May 10, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

I think Izzy is getting to the point where he just can't

do it anymore. Like Lboros stated the other day, he isn’t striking anyone out anymore. Whether its age, injury, or whatever.

by TxCardFan on May 10, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

I don't know

but if you ask me I think we need to start injecting some Memphis lovin’ into this pitching staff pretty soon. Pretty sad that we’re going from looking for a clean up hitter or maybe one more starting arm and now the whole bullpen staff is disarray

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by AdjustedExpectations on May 10, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs

agreed.

this was supposed to be the year of youth. Let the young guys see what they can do. I do still think that a veteran presence like springer will help though.

by TxCardFan on May 10, 2008 6:31 PM EDT up reply reply 0 recs