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I will not boo Jason Isringhausen. I will not be one of those fans that boo him when he is on, and cheer him when he is off. My grandmother taught me that if you have nothing good to say, then keep your mouth shut. I will not boo Jason Isringhausen. My frustrations, fears, scares and temper will sit in silence. Wether at home in the comfort of my chair or in the confines of my second home at Busch Stadium. I will not boo Jason Isringhausen. Izzy has brought too many great memories, too many great face offs and too many good saves to have me doubt him now. It might be a time for a change, it might just be a short term mental block, BUT I will not boo Jason Isringhausen. I, at 32, cannot possibly come into a 9th inning game and keep a lead to save my life. There is no way i can dictate better than TLR or DD as too who to put in that situation. Izzy is the reigning bullpen MVP right now and we live or die with Izzy. I will not boo Jason Isringhausen. To see him so upset, so miserable after last nights game i cannot help but wonder what he thinks when our beloved nation turn on him. I do not want to see a repeat of 2006 since when 75% of the fans in attendance that day decide to voice their concerns with boos. I will not boo Jason Isringhausen. Sit in silence, cry on your way home, scream at the bars, yell at work, do whatever. But please do not boo Jason Isringhausen. Dang it. Here's to Izzy figuring this thing out.

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A-Men, brother!

I’ve never been a “boo-bird” for members of the team I’m rooting for. The opposition? Well, that’s another story altogether! (Keith Hernandez of the Mets and Garry Templeton of the Padres, I’m looking at you!)

I’ll boo anybody who intentionally walks Albert (even though I fully realize the move makes perfect sense), and I’ll boo opposition pitchers who throw at our guys’ heads. But barring something truly exceptional (flipping “the bird” to the crowd, for example), I’ll never boo a Cardinal!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 10, 2008 11:36 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

I generally just boo

umps when they screw up. I know their jobs are hard, but oh well.

My husband, on the other hand, has actually booed a movie. That was embarrassing.

by spants on May 10, 2008 1:17 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Was it Batman and Robin?

‘Cause then, I could understand

If not, then yeah, I’d be embarrassed, too.

They say that it's never too late, but you don't get any younger...

by Valatan on May 10, 2008 1:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

It could have been Monster's Ball

That movie was 2 hours of my life I will never get back.
Monster’s Ball…I am sure that could be used in a baseball sense. I will have to work on it.
That all being said, I will never boo Izzy. He is one of the main reasons for the best run of Cardinal baseball in my life. The only way I will ever boo a Cardinal is if they ever bring The Baron back.
Here is hoping Izzy gets those mechanics back and gets to 300…and gets to mentor Perez along the way.

"He was trying to hit a three run homer with the bases empty. To my knowledge, no one in the history of the game has ever done that. But it could happen someday. You never know in this world of baseball." The Moonman

by mattyfrommo on May 10, 2008 2:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Spider-Man 3

It was pretty bad, especially compared to 1 & 2. What was with that whole emo black eyeliner crap?

by spants on May 10, 2008 4:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

my turn.

Scorpion King. Plain Awful.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 10, 2008 6:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Worst Part

Wasted a Midnight showing to see it. Partly fell asleep.

by Pujols Is A God on May 10, 2008 7:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Dan in Real Life...

stay away from it….faaaaaar away from it.

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on May 10, 2008 9:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Agreed.....

Izzy has done NOTHING to deserve a boo’ing. I reserve that for players with attitude problems, or lack of hustle on a consistent basis. Izzy has been good for the Cardinals over the years. I don’t forget things like that.

by SoonerfanTU on May 10, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

+1

Those are the only reasons I think a player should be boo’ed.

by etp_stl on May 10, 2008 3:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

yep..

You nailed it ..good luck to a guy thats made my day, broke my heart and kept me on the edge of the 9th inning hot seat. Theres no questioning involved with Izringhausen.

by cardschinmusic on May 12, 2008 4:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

maybe you should be a cubs fan

then you could boo the Cardinals when ever you feel like it.

by davethebutcher on May 10, 2008 3:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Or maybe a Yankees or Sawks fan.

They seem to take particular delight in denegrating their own players.

by etp_stl on May 10, 2008 3:32 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

maybe I can boo whoever I please

sorry, deal with it.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on May 10, 2008 4:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

understood

boo away, if that makes you feel better. declare your boo-bird status proudly. knock yourself out.

some people aren’t very impressed with that attitude. deal with it.

by lboros on May 10, 2008 4:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

You ain't

from Philly, are ya, Raconteur? (grin)

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on May 12, 2008 10:45 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

yes, you certainly may

it’s called Freedom of Speech…......and we welcome that, no matter how disrespectful

by Hinkster on May 10, 2008 9:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Booooo Jack White…LOL!

by cardschinmusic on May 12, 2008 4:59 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Izzy has tenure on this one

He’s done far too many good things for this team for me to forget them and disrespect him with a boo. Is he doing his job right now? Absolutely not. Do I know why? Not for sure. Am I going to act like he’s a no-talent bum? Absolutely not.

by Elle on May 10, 2008 9:12 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

"A hot dog at the ball game beats roast beef at the Ritz."- Humphrey Bogart

by iron duke75 on May 11, 2008 12:16 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Booing

Until this century, I really don’t remember us booing our own. it seems to me it was never a Cardinal Nation thing to do. I hardly remember us booing opposing players, Umps yes! (The call in KC in 87, the whole 2004 post season). That said,at the end of the month when those As-tros return for another round of we went to a fight and a baseball game broke out, ANYONE who wants to boo Ausmus or Backe, has my support! Izzy has given us so much, and I have been just as upset and frustrated as the next fan, but I will not make my grandpappy roll in his grave by booing in Baseball Heaven!! We have always prided ourselves on being the classier fans, let’s not let the CUBBIES rub off on us!!!

by Redbird Emt on May 11, 2008 4:12 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

BOOOOO AWAY

I understand baseball is a long season and closers will blow games the team will lose games they should have won but consistant poor play will be booed. Period! Don’t act like Cardinal fans never booed thier team before does anyone remember the early 90’s?

Izzy has been a fixture of this team and guess what I booed him in ‘06. Why? Because he was blowing games and sucking much like ‘08. He’s taken responasablity for his poor play and he’s probably a genuinley good guy but his profession is a public one and when he’s on center stage and fails then your going to get booed. Sorry that’s the way it is.

After hearing Busch after the Soriano HR I would say those of you who don’t boo are in the minority. It sounded like ever person in the park was letting Izzy know thier dissatisfaction.

By the way lay off Racontuer…..Im booing you guys now see how easy it is to do

by poohrat on May 11, 2008 6:39 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

It is your right.

However, I believe you should have higher standards for denegrating a person than consistent failure when the effort is still there. You’re sentiment, based on your statement, should be aimed at the individual putting that person in a position to fail. If the player is giving everything he/she has, then the player is not the issue. Consequently, booing him/her is ignorant and cruel, and it provides absolutely nothing to the situation. Boo the manager when he comes to FINALLY get him. Boo the decision to bring him in. Hell, boo the pitching coach who gets paid to work the player through such situations. But, booing the player does nothing.

Boo the player when the player is not giving maximum effort, and therefore not getting results. I’m not concerned with the longevity of the player, or the sentimentality. That may influence my decision to boo, but I don’t hold others to my standards. I do expect that if we intend to retain and take pride in the moniker of “smartest fans in baseball,” then that comes with the responsibility of understanding the impact of your decisions in regards to curtain calls, cheering, and booing. I don’t care if you take your responsibility seriously, but expect to hear about it from those of us who do.

by etp_stl on May 12, 2008 8:24 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

It doesn't change the fact

the most of us think it is a classless act to boo someone who has given so much to the team

"He was trying to hit a three run homer with the bases empty. To my knowledge, no one in the history of the game has ever done that. But it could happen someday. You never know in this world of baseball." The Moonman

by mattyfrommo on May 11, 2008 8:44 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Well said...and!

Its hard for me to imagine the mindset of the “baseball boo-bird” .......what a waste …..and let alone with the Cards as the target, then logging on VEB.

by cardschinmusic on May 12, 2008 4:32 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

absolutely

These guys have no obligation to the fans or anyone. All they are paid to do is go out there and play their best. Sometimes their best will be less than we expect, sometimes it will be more than we could hope for. There are so many variables that it is very hard to narrow it down to anyone thing. If a player isn’t playing up to what you hoped for, maybe you should reevaluate your expectation. With Izzy he is obviously doing the best he can right now, and that cleary is not cutting it, so he has taken responsibility for that and stepped down for now. I hope that he can get back to his prior form, but I will not boo him until he stops giving his best. End early morning/late night rant.

by davethebutcher on May 12, 2008 4:39 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

This bothers me too...

...But it’s become more and more commonplace, and I suppose it shouldn’t be all that surprising. Many sports fans have the attention span of a gnat. All that matters is what you are doing now, or at least what you have done in the last few day/weeks. Lost in it all is the greater context.

I guess it’s unavoidable when so many more resources are dedicated to recycling the previous 24 hours events in grand detail. Sportscenter all morning long. Shows like PTI and Around the Horn in the afternoon, where he who yells the loudest wins. Writers like Mariotti littering sports sections with their hatchet pieces against whatever local sports figure lost the last game. Talk radio hosts going on hour long rants…..

It’s easy to see why it happens. That doesn’t mean I or anyone else has to like it though. In this particular case it bugs me more than usual. Some people probably deserve to be booed. They don’t give all that they have. Maybe they don’t listen to coaches. Maybe they don’t care. Maybe they say things that show they are a real jackass. In any of those cases I can see a basis for booing.

Izzy is none of those things. He has never dogged it. He has always taken the responibility for himself, as far as I can tell. In the greater context, he’s performed at a high level for us for much longer than most closers do. Izzy flat doesn’t have it right now. He said as much, and by doing so he saved Tony the temptation of dragging this out longer out of loyalty. He did everyone a huge favor right there, because this was a delicate matter for Tony to handle – whether we recognize it or not.

Every person in almost every industry reaches a point where their skills slip. They simply cannot contribute to their business the same ways that they used to. It just happens in baseball faster and often times without much warning.

Sure, people can go ahead and boo. If St. Louis fans want to rain a parade of boo’s on Izzy next time he steps on the mound, I can’t stop it. If that’s the way it is going to be though, just realize that we are becoming just like every other baseball town in that respect. Please don’t feel that kind of action is warranted on one hand, and then expect someone to stick around and take the “home town discount” on the other. If that’s what we are going to become, then don’t be disappointed when Ankiel and Boras take the dollars and run. He might owe LaRussa and the organization, but by then the key players that believed in him may all be gone. He won’t owe us, as fans, jack. We’ll turn on him after his next 1 for 25 slump. Don’t make any long term committments based on something so fickle. Same principle applies to anybody on the team, or any prospective free agent.

Sure the fans have the right, but that doesn’t make it right. And if we are going to behave just like everyone else’s fans, that’s fine I suppose, but let’s just realize that players aren’t going to view us as any different than anyone else either.

by Merry CRasmus on May 12, 2008 5:07 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

thanks

its nice to see some class from fans one here that agree with logic. thanks

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 12, 2008 7:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I don't boo him

I want Izzy to be the best he can be.

Redbirds Fun
2006 WS for JB and DK57RIP: Josh Hancock

by cardsfan84 on May 14, 2008 12:21 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

I think your missing my point....

As far as not booing Cardinal players goes its an absolute myth. I have been going to Cardinal games for quite a while now and have seen many players booed. It’s the one way for a fan to show dissatisfaction with a player/team other than not going. The players DO NOT get paid to “give thier best” they get paid to win! I think that the sentimental feelings have over come some and are not taking a rational look at this.

This isn’t a fair weather town where the Cards are concerned. It isnt like going to see the Rangers play but guess what nobody boos there…why cause no one cares…and really noone goes. This is not about Izzy it’s about Izzys crappy play! BOOOOOOO

I would never just randomly boo the guy not even in the middle of his “slump” when he took the mound. But giving up 3 and a loss you better believe I’m booing. It’s not a class issue it is my right nay duty as a fan. He’s not the only one that hears that the manager and club do to.

I have heard everyone talk about what a stand up guy he is and takes responsability for his crappy play. Great he’s been here a while woo hooo. I’ve never been a superfan of Izzy. He’s been all right as a Card. Great nice job. Guess what in the middle of road trip this last week he cost us two games and single handedly deflated the confidence in this young team. I can only imagine sitting on the bench and thinking all right we got a 2 run lead in the 9th…..o wait it’s a close situation shit here comes Izzy.

That’s what it’s come to. And as far as class and composure your talking about a town that tried to destroy Royce Clayton for taking Ozzies spot at short. This has nothing to do with yelling louder or whatever it has to do with winning games and Izzy is not doing that at all.

Izzy has had a long career in St Louis he has enjoyed the highs, a lot of tolerence and now let him her the boos. If he can pull it together great I’m rooting for him to do it. If he comes back and blows saves I’ll be booing him. Me and 40,000 other people in that park.

by poohrat on May 14, 2008 12:51 PM EDT reply reply   0 recs

The point to me

Isn’t whether it’s been done before or not. I agree that it has been. The point is whether it is useful, productive, or necessary in this particular case and also whether we should strive to live up to our reputation, self appointed or not, as good baseball fans.

It has been done before. In some cases maybe it is deserved. Izzy isn’t one of those cases, in my opinion. Just from my observation, people in the sports world in general have become increasingly quick at “letting the athletes hear it”. Reasons for that are clear to me, but I still don’t think it’s a positive development.

My observation has been that sometimes Cardinals fans seem to want to have it both ways. We expect our fanbase to be a selling point to players. We want players under contract to extend on friendly financial terms for us. We expect that free agents will pick us, all things being relatively equal, because we are a good baseball town. Some people throw out the cliche, “Best fans in baseball”. When Renteria took a few additional dollars to play somewhere else, some took that a bit personal. If Edmonds goes to the Cubs, some will be offended by that too.

This all is well and good, but if we truly care about reality meeting the reputation as far as we as fans are concerned, then we need to take responsibility for our actions. We have to do the things that differentiate ourselves from others, if we expect players to pass up on financial and other considerations for the benefit of the Cardinal organization. Booing a man that has done the job for years, but is now struggling at the very end of his very long contract, and probably his career, is not differentiating yourself. At least not in a good way.

If we chose to behave a certain way, because we have in some of our worst moments before, or because others do it too, then we lose the right to complain when we don’t get any loyalty in return from our players. Because we mistreated Royce Clayton, or Ron Gant, or whoever…we now need to boo Izzy? I don’t subscribe to that. We have a responsibility, whether we admit it or not. Booing Izzy when he is giving what little he has left, because it doesn’t meet our expectations, doesn’t seem very responsible or appropriate to me.

by Merry CRasmus on May 14, 2008 7:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs


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