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Not With a Bang, But a Whimper.

Last year, just before Valentine's day, my paternal grandmother passed away.  Her heart finally gave out on her late on a Sunday evening.  She had been in the hospital, attempting to recover from a triple bypass; she had had a stint placed the year before, and it wasn't doing it anymore, and finally, it all just gave up.

My father was pretty broken up about it; it was the first parent he had lost.  What surprised me wasn't seeing my own father, one of the more stoic, unemotional people I've ever known in my life, just fall apart; I was far more surprised by how much it hurt me.  Don't get me wrong; I loved the woman.  But it was very much that species of love you feel for a family member 'just because'.  We had never been all that close.  In fact, I've never related all that well to my father's side of the family in general.  I always took more after my mother's side. 

I'm not much of an outdoorsman, and fishing is just something I've never been able to generate any sort of interest in.  I like fish, but actually trying to catch them seems too much like just waiting for nothing to me.  I can't stand to kill an animal, so I've never gone hunting or any of those sorts of wholesome, manly activities either.  My father's family consists almost entirely of rugged, salt of the earth types from out in the backwoods of Missouri.  I don't say that in any sort of denigrating way; I just don't relate to them all that well.

But when my grandmother died, I found myself far more broken up about it than I ever expected to be.  When it came right down to it, it had just never seemed to me like either one of my father's parents would ever die.  My mother's side of the family, the one that I've always been closer to, has never been a healthy bunch of people.  Heart disease, diabetes, alcoholism, bipolar disorder, you name it, that bunch of people seem to have a history of it.  I had grown used to the knowledge that there was mortality in these people; I know perfectly well that nothing lasts forever. 

But my dad's parents, on the other hand, had never been sick in their lives.  After my grandfather retired, they traveled extensively, spending very little time anywhere near home.  They even bought a doublewide down in Florida that they would go and stay at January through April.  It just felt as if they would always be there; that none of the infirmities and ravages of age would ever really touch them.  Even when my grandmother was diagnosed as diabetic, it was very mild.  The only noticeable change was the pitcher of unsweetened iced tea always present at family gatherings after that. 

And then, one day, she was gone.  I had somehow never even thought of her as being all that old; she and my grandfather had gone down to Montauk State Park just a few months before, at the close of fishing season, and had brought back bag after bag of cleaned, beautiful trout.  Like I said, I can't stand to kill an animal, but I am generally willing to eat them, at least the tasty ones, and trout are right near the top of that list. 

So even as I sat at her funeral, waiting to perform my duty as pallbearer, I realised, at least a little bit, that what I felt wasn't just sorrow for the woman who was now gone; it was a little bit for myself as well.  It may sound selfish, but grief usually is.  We don't feel bad because someone we love has finally escaped from their pain and sickness; we weep because we've lost them.  I had never thought of these people as being mortal.  Trust me, I was plenty old enough to understand that everything, everyone, and everywhere will have an end, and yet it just never seemed to apply to certain parts of life.  I grieved, not only for a woman that I had known, but never as well as I should have, but for my own new wisdom. 

I tell you all of this not to depress you, or to invite sympathy, or anything like that.  I tell you all of this because I felt, in some small way, a very similar emotion last night as I watched Jason Isringhausen's postgame comments.  If you didn't see the show, here's a little bit of what you missed:

"I'm just getting sick of embarrassing myself and letting my team down." 

"It's just time for [La Russa and Duncan] to figure out- we should have five more games in the win column, in my mind.  So we should be out there in first place even more.  They can't keep sending me out there when I'm pitching the way I'm pitching.  We're going to have to figure out some kind of remedy.  I'm sure that remedy will give me some time off from that role and we'll somebody in who can do a better job right now."

"I'm leading the league in saves and blown saves with an ERA of seven.  (7.47)  It's not a whole lot of fun, especially when you let down 25 other guys day in and day out.  It's the end of it."

Now, if you can't feel something for a man standing in front of the cameras, naked pain on his face, eviscerating himself so thoroughly, then you obviously don't have much in the way of compassion.  I saw those comments last night, and I watched them again this morning, and what I felt was a sense of sorrow, of loss, that seemed completely out of place in the context of a sporting event, regardless of outcome.  It wasn't the loss; it was the knowledge that this may very well be the end for Jason Isringhausen. 

Izzy has long been described by many, myself included, as a warrior.  Last night, he seemed almost to be following the Bushido code to me, falling on his own sword rather than dishonour himself, or his team, any further, by going out and continuing to pitch.  He gave La Russa more than enough in those comments to justify relieving him of closer duties, and he did it because he didn't want to hurt the team any more. 

I'm sure there are some who will still rant and scream at Izzy, but I have neither the stomach, nor the heart, for the task.  There are some, I'm sure, who will point to his salary, and say he has 8 million reason not to feel bad, but I don't buy it.  Ballplayers are paid very well for their services, yes, but that doesn't mean they aren't human.  It doesn't mean they stop feeling all the same things the rest of us feel.  They simply feel all the same things in a different tax bracket.  This is a man, a man of tremendous pride and confidence, staring into his mortality, forced to consider that he may, in fact, simply no longer be good enough.  In the end, time gets us all, even when we think it never will. 

As I said above, there was a point to all of my earlier maudling.  I've never been a huge fan of Isringhausen.  I've never booed him, simply because I'm not really the sort.  There's only one Cardinal player I've ever actually booed, and it had almost nothing to do with his performance on the field.  Still, though, of all the Cardinals who contributed to this decade's run, I've never loved Izzy like some of the other players.  I loved Jimmy Edmonds, with his dives, (sometimes justified, sometimes not) his blond tips, his ridiculous batting stance, his annual spring training leg injuries.  I love Albert, because I've never seen a player do the things he does before.  I loved Daryl Kile, because he seemed almost too decent to be true.  I love, but will never quite forgive, Rick Ankiel.  I loved Matt Morris; his duels in the 2001 Division Series are still some of the most memorable games I've ever experienced.  I even love Chris Carpenter.  Hell, who doesn't love the T-1000? 

But Izzy never really did it for me.  I've always respected his contributions, but also always felt, like many others do, that he put way too many men on base, he walks the bases full, always has to make it more interesting than it should be, yadda yadda yadda. 

But now, having seen Izzy prepared to step down, out of the role that he's filled for so long, it seems like the end has finally come.  Not just for Izzy; this may or may not be the end for him.  I have no way of knowing.  But for the Cardinal team that gave us all so much joy for the better part of this decade, this is definitely the end. 

How ironic, or perhaps it's just fitting, is it that on the same day, Jason Isringhausen falls on his sword for his team and his manager, and Jim Edmonds is released?  We tend to look at Albert as the big gun of the 2000 era Cardinals' success, but the arrival of Jim Edmonds and Daryl Kile really ushered in the era.  Kile, of course, has been gone for too many years now, but Edmonds was still around, still flopping in the outfield.  Now his career may be over.  Even if another team does pick him up, it's going to be strictly in a part time, defensive sort of role.  Personally, I would be a bit surprised if he even gets a contract. 

Earlier this month, we saw Matt Morris come to the end of his road.  The Pittsburgh Pirates, officially cutting ties with the Dave Littlefield era, released Matty Mo; he shortly thereafter announced his retirement.  Another warrior done before his time; another reminder that all things must end. 

Mike Matheny finally fell victim to one too many foul balls off the mask and retired two years ago now.  He made the decision, or perhaps it was more made for him, that being able to live without a permanent fog, or even just live at all, was more valuable than continuing to play.  He made the right decision, of course.  Still, strange to see him gone from the game. 

Houston had no use for Woody Williams this spring; Woody too received his walking papers.  One of the best stories you'll ever hear in sports, the ex shortstop made good on the mound, Woody appears to be retired.  I don't know if he's formally announced it, but then again, I'm not sure he has to.  No grand exit for Woody, either.  Just a slow fade, the days piling up until there are just too many to lift.

One by one, all of our heroes have fallen; time gets us all in the end.  And now Izzy.  He was never my favourite, never the player whose jersey I proudly sported.  But I never really expected him to go anywhere.  It somehow seemed to me that he would just close games for the Cardinals forever.  He would always put too many men on.  We would always complain.  But he would also get the job done, night after night, until the end of time.  He never really seemed to age, just wear down from time to time and have to go into the shop to get fixed.  To see him as he was last night, announcing to the world that a change needed to be made, hurt me in a way I was not expecting.  He was never my favourite, but he was always there just the same. 

And so it seems, to me at least, that we stand now at the true end of an era.  I've said that before, but it was always just lip service.  Now it seems real.  Watching the postgame show last night, I found myself looking back, and thinking of that team.  That team is gone now, and I'm surprised by how much I miss it.  Izzy was the last man left standing; the last on his feet and fighting.  You'll forgive me, I hope, if I can't feel any real joy, or even relief, that he's finally fallen. 

We all look to the future, of course.  We all wait to see which way the wind will blow for this team, and this bullpen.  I hope, though, that as we all turn our faces forward, you'll join me in one last little look back.  It may have been just a baseball team, but it was our baseball team.  It was my baseball team.  The story, though, is over, and it's time to say goodbye.

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I agree. I never post, but I couldn’t NOT give you props after that. Keep up the good work.

by acsing on May 10, 2008 12:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

....

"How depressing is it being you? Would you equate it to being a lifelong Cubs fan?"

by rocKStark5 on May 10, 2008 8:35 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Eloquently said

I don’t know what’s wrong with Izzy. Apparently, neither does he. I’m sure Duncan and LaRussa will figure it out.

But this isn’t the end of the Cardinals. Players come and go. It’s sad, but it’s part of life. New pitchers will come up, and someone will take the closers role, even if it’s only temporary until Izzy figures out what’s wrong. Or doesn’t, and then he retires.

The King is dead, Long live the King.

by O'Fallon Park on May 10, 2008 8:46 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

as good as any ever on this site

well done TRB.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on May 10, 2008 1:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I agree

I made my (sports-appreciating-but-anything-but-blog-reading) wife come and read. It has been a time of lots of transition and a lot of players that have defined the cardinals are fading into history now. It’s hard to see. It is in some way refreshing though to see that izzy is not above the frustration that so many others are feeling.

by ribbij on May 10, 2008 1:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i agree...

and that is saying something with all the great posts there has been over the last couple years…

"Back in the day when I played, a pitcher had 3 pitches: a fastball, a curveball, a slider, a changeup and a good sinker pitch." - Mike Shannon

by nomar34 on May 10, 2008 5:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I must admitt

That last night I was about as mad as I have ever been at any Cardinal player. Once I read his quotes my heart sank. It seams that he has lost his fire, and that may be a bigger problem to over come.

by nybirdfan on May 10, 2008 9:16 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Don't let the door....

Granted you have to like a guy that cares but he’s been an albatross on this franchise long enough once again heading towards leading the NL in blown saves (as in 2006) unless a change is made.

At some point you have to hold players accountable for their performance on the field and try something new when it’s not working (like larussa finally benching rolen in the 2006 playoffs as he was about to begin another one of his patented september/october fades) and it’s izzy’s time to leave.

I want players on this team that want to be here (izzy certainly qualifies; rolen did not) and actually put the team in situations where they have the absolute best chances of winning (izzy certainly does not qualify).

This team won a world series without izzy, I don’t see the burning need to keep him around especially since the team has young power arms wasting away in AAA that could get a shot in the closing spot.

Young, rookie arms have worked well in the past with this franchise in the closers role in big situations (todd worrell, wainwright) and with other teams in this league (papelbon and jenks most recently) why not give it a whirl? We are also supposed to be in pseudo-rebuild mold, let’s see if any of these kids can take this job and not give it up. They couldn’t do any worse than the current product.

It’s sad that izzy is sad about being a crappy pitcher but that doesn’t change the fact that he’s a crappy pitcher that’s hurting my favorite team’s chances of winning. Hey I’m sad, too, that I have to (and izzy’s teammates have to) continually watch their team win a game for 8 innings only to lose it thanks to one person that’s obviously not very good.

It’s time to move on. I’m hoping as a fan that I’m never subjected to watching him pitch again. I’ve had enough, and apparently so has izzy himself.

by yargs on May 10, 2008 9:26 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Well written...

but jeez. it’s just a game. Isringhausen has had a longer career in the big leagues than most. He’s made a ton of dough. He’s been one of the lucky ones in that he’s survived a major career-threatening surgery. He’s easily the most successful of the NY Mets three “young guns” who flamed out. I don’t feel THAT sorry for him.

"If I ain't startin' I ain't departin'"

by templetown on May 10, 2008 9:34 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

+1

I appreciate the beauty of the sentiment, but nothing gold can stay Ponyboy. Sunrise, sunset. I think I was actually more upset by Jimmy Baseball’s being released than reading Izzy’s postgame comments.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on May 10, 2008 2:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

What's strange is

the decline of Edmonds and Izzy happened so quick. It’s like they woke up one morning and aged 5 years.

"because at the end of the day they still are the Chicago Cubs"

by rockin the red on May 10, 2008 9:35 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

you could throw matt morris in there too

I thought he’d still be effectively pitching at least 2 more years

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 10, 2008 2:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Best post

I’ve ever read on VEB. Well done!

"Is this Heaven?"
"No, it;s Iowa."
"I could've sworn it was Heaven."

by MilCardFan on May 10, 2008 9:38 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Fantastic Post

Thanks.

jwilson

by taguchi on May 10, 2008 9:57 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

+1

I would love to see Izzy take on mentoring the young arms, and I would love to see Edmonds back as a coach. It might be perceived as a hokey ploy, but the game balls he gave out during the ‘06 playoff run built team cohesion, and I believe played a huge part in winning the WS. We can always use leaders like Izzy and Edmonds in the organization.

by gocards62 on May 10, 2008 10:00 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Izzy yes, Edmonds no

I would love for the team to keep Isringhausen around all season to mentor the bullpen, as he did with Wainwright. He is a natural for the role.

Edmonds, on the other hand, doesn’t seem like a fit for this ballclub with TLR still at the helm. Not that he has an Ozzie-sized gripe with the man, but La Russa frequently made him a target of his needling through the press, notably when he was going after his last contract. I would think the relationship might be a little strained. But I could be wrong.

"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz

by taiko on May 10, 2008 10:22 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Bravo

After how upset I was last night, reading your post eased me a bit. Excellent post, and a very good way to look at the end of a fantastic era in Cards history.

Thanks!

by joecardsfan on May 10, 2008 9:57 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

we still have Pujols at least

the era isn’t quite over yet

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 10, 2008 2:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Pujols is

in an era all unto himself

"He was trying to hit a three run homer with the bases empty. To my knowledge, no one in the history of the game has ever done that. But it could happen someday. You never know in this world of baseball." The Moonman

by mattyfrommo on May 10, 2008 2:30 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Hey there, Mr. Red,

I enjoyed reading that post. I don’t know what to make of Izzy right now, except he needs to be moved out of the closer’s role. Whether he’s hurt, aged out, or mentally not where he needs to be, he gave management his permision, I should say he has actually requested they do what they need to do-which is remove him.

Thanks for reminding everyone that ballplayers are human. I think we all forget that. Sure, they make a lot of money. All that means is that money is not one their problems.

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on May 10, 2008 9:59 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Agreed

it is heartbreaking to see him be a broken man but the Cardinals need to press on with the tough decisions.

Perez better be on a plane from Las Vegas to Milwaukee as we speak.

by Hardcore Legend on May 10, 2008 10:02 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

If we give the job to Perez

we better be prepared to live with his ups and downs too. I wouldn’t be opposed to it, but he does have that same problem of walking batters…

"because at the end of the day they still are the Chicago Cubs"

by rockin the red on May 10, 2008 10:20 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

+1

Closers work in the most pressure-packed situations, and any mistakes are extremely amplified. Chris Perez, Jason Motte, or Mark Worrell will not come in and convert 100% of their situations. They will put batters on base that don’t belong there, in a perfect world. The question is, can they convert a significant majority of the time.

by etp_stl on May 10, 2008 11:09 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yes, but if they struggle

it will actually be for the benefit of something. Isringhausen going out there an blowing saves is frustrating because he’s not part of the longterm goals of this team. If Perez is out there blowing saves, we can somewhat bite our tongues because he is learning to be our closer of the future.

by Hardcore Legend on May 10, 2008 11:25 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

True.

My point was that closers are the most entertaining and frustrating members of a bullpen. It is easy to romanticize prospects, as we have seen with Duncan, Ankiel, hell Jim Lindeman. The point I thought rockin the red was making, and the point to which I was agreeing, was that we should have realistic expectations of these guys.

I am all for the youth movement. It is more exciting to watch a young guy figuring it out at the major league level versus watching a veteran that is losing what he once had. I think there will be those that agree with you about the frustration point, but I am also very convinced that that sentiment will last all of about a month. If the Cards were not in contention, then maybe that would extend to half a year. The problem is that they currently ARE in contention. I don’t think they have the horses to stay a full season; but that is merely subjective, as the evidence says they’re here now. Watching as games are given away in the late innings is frustrating, regardless of the pitcher that is doing it.

by etp_stl on May 10, 2008 12:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

fact is

they can’t afford to give away those games if they want to compete this season. cubs, brewers, hell, maybe even the ‘stros are all around our same level of competitiveness

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on May 10, 2008 2:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Yeah, those damn Astros......

You can’t easily count them out…...they have the best 3-4-5 batters in the NL Cental, IMO. And Berkman looks like he’s on his way to a career year….....they really can overcome some bad pitching-much like the Phillies were able to do last season.

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on May 10, 2008 2:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Damn, RB

You’ve put into words exactly how I felt watching Izzy make those comments last night. I have to admit to a sense of relief, as it is so obvious that something needs to be done-but to see Izzy himself give up the ghost like that, well, it WAS an emotional moment. Yes, the players need to be held accountable. Yes, the team has to move on as all teams do. Yes, Izzy has been well compensated financially for his services. But as you say, he is human. Watching the old warhorse admit he’s done, probably the hardest thing he’s ever had to do, left me sad and nostalgic too. Maybe a team is just laundry and stats to some, but I’ve always felt an emotional attachment to our boys-especially when they have periods of trial and tribulation. I’ve been a Birdfan for 40+ years, and seen a whole bunch of guys come and go. But I always feel sad for the older players when their time in the sun is gone. Always have, always will. Thanks for that great post.

by rockin redbird on May 10, 2008 10:02 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

great. great.

post. man.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on May 10, 2008 10:08 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

good post

I too feel a bit sad that so many of the Cards former greats are all coming to the end. That being said I think Izzy gave TLR the opening he needs to make a change. They should DL Izzy for now (I’m sure they can find a reason), install McClellan as closer and bring up Perez to take McClellan’s place. It’s high time those power arms on the farm started getting big league hitters out.

by indakind on May 10, 2008 10:13 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Maybe too Maudlin

Okay, okay—he’s out as the closer. At least for now.

But is he really gonna be out entirely? I mean, this is a guy who can still get outs. And there is that contract of his to consider.

My prediction, closer by committee. Izzy will be one of the committee. He’s just not going to get the latitude and confidence that a closer gets,i.e., we’re not going to let him be the one who’s closing the games anymore.

So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)

by Titus Pullo on May 10, 2008 10:34 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Great Post, but I don't think it's over, simply time for a break

I feel he’ll be back, and I’ll welcome it when he’s ready. When he’s throwing well he’s still a top 10 closer. He’s not Papelbon or Rivera but I’d take him over quite a few other guys out there. Gameday had him hitting 93 with his fastball last night so it doesn’t look like he’s completely done without a chance. There’s definitely a mental/mechanical issue going on right now.

I’m hoping for a couple of week trip to the DL for some random ailment to allow him a break and a rehab assignment to work on his stuff in a situation that won’t cost the team W’s.

by birdo rojo on May 10, 2008 10:35 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Absolutely right

The original post by the Baron was very well done. Great job.

But, Izzy isn’t retiring, folks. And LaRussa and Duncan aren’t putting him out to pasture. You can bet on that. Will he get a break from the closer’s role? Probably. He definitely should, especially since he seems to want it. Granted, a lot could have changed since the immediate aftermath of last night’s debacle. He may have awakened today, a few more hours removed from defeat, and thought that quitting isn’t the right way to go. Who knows?

But whatever Izzy said last night, you can bet that we’ll see him throwing for the Cards again—and soon.

Don’t start writing Izzy’s pitching eulogy just yet.

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on May 10, 2008 10:53 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Izzy threw 13 pitches yesterday

and not one was a curve. I wonder why. All fastballs and cutters. If your cutter’s not cutting, and you’re not blowing anyone away w/ the fastball, why not throw a curve? Not one!

by houstoncardinal on May 10, 2008 10:49 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

This is gonna work, damn it!!

LaRussa has the same mentality, kept ramming your head against the wall until it falls down.

by Hardcore Legend on May 10, 2008 10:50 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Izzy said something to the effect of;

My curveball is an out pitch, I can’t throw it for strikes, so if I’m behind in the count, I can’t throw it.

Not a direct quote, but I think thats the sum of what he said. Not that it makes any real sense to me.

by fuegophil on May 10, 2008 11:04 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Great post.

I was afraid to read VEB this morning but this is very reassuring.

I’ll admit.. i was enraged at Izzy until I saw the postgame. Empathy kicked in and I felt bad for the guy.

It’s hard to bounce back from a loss like that. I’d be stunned if the Cards won today.

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by stltrav09 on May 10, 2008 10:51 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Actually,

Sometimes it’s actually a boost to a team when a member does what Izzy did after the game last night. Especially when it’s a team leader who’s struggling and admits his failings, the team will often respond by kicking it up a notch and rallying together. Our problem is that when some of our inexperienced players-whom we rely on heavily-try to kick it up a notch, they end up trying to do too much. The results, in that case, are not pretty.

Today’s game will be very interesting. It will tell us a lot about not only the character but also the ability of this team to reach back for a little something extra.

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on May 10, 2008 10:57 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Hope x 2

I do think that the best thing is for him to take a couple weeks off and come back, how many days was he off before the Sunday night Cubs close? He had the fire then, perhaps it was the situation, but I hope he can find it again. In the meantime, I think Villone might be the best bet, because you know they are not going to bring up anyone from Triple A.

The bad thing about this is Milwaukee is now energized, and can’t wait to get to the ballpark today. They were down and out by losing 6 in a row and they now have hope. What seemed to me to be a sure series win for the Cardinals, can shape up to be the same for the Brewers. Yes, it is only one game, but I hope that Izzy didn’t light the fuse for them this season.

by dralexp on May 10, 2008 11:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Izzy

He is one of my favorite Cardinals. he is a standup guy and takes the blame when it’s his. He takes the ball and does his best. Most are forgetting this man has had major injuries. The hip problem alone would have ended many a careers. It did Bo Jacksons. This may be the end for izzy, but i wouldnt count on it!

"Today is the day now is the time"- Billy Graham

by clemente21 on May 10, 2008 10:54 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Equating Izzy to Jed doesn't look quite correct to me.

In Edmonds you have a guy whose body was simply breaking down, for the last several years, and he knew it. He was trying to eke out one last year so that he could go out on his own terms - “orchestrate my own exodus” was the phrase that Lou Brock used at the same point in his career (and he managed to do it) - but his body just wouldn’t let him. That’s a fate anyone over the age of about 25 can relate to, and if you’re 26 and dispute that, go try to do some gymnastics or figure skating or competitive swimming for a year solid and get back to me.

With Izzy, I don’t think anyone knows what is wrong. I agree with rojo: a guy who can go out there and pump 93-octane gas is not simply being betrayed by a terminally broken-down body—unless, maybe, there’s something about that body that is keeping him from throwing effective cutters and off-speed stuff. I am insufficiently knowledgeable about the mechanics of pitching to know what that particular something might be, but it’s time for the team to start looking. Is there a pitching doctor in the house? If not, where do we find one?

by StanTheManFan on May 10, 2008 10:55 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Thank you Red Baron.

This was an excellent, emotional piece. I can relate more than I will go into to your personal story, though I tend to lean to the other side of the family. Whether anyone thinks that was going too far about a baseball player, or not, thank you for sharing that with us. That is writing.

I was particularly interested in your point about how some would see his salary as a way to cushion the blow of his failures. I think that would be a disingenious view of the situation. Any individual of integrity, as I believe Isringhausen is, would feel much worse about failing when receiving such a salary.

I have never been enamored with Isringhausen (for all of the reasons you stated), but his results have been unmistakeable. When Isringhausen has been truly bad, it has always coincided with some significant, unreported injury. There is still a part of me that wonders if he is hurting, right now.

He has always impressed me with his sincerity, honesty, and cool-headedness when dealing with his teammates and the media. He has never been one to make excuses, but he has always portrayed confidence in his abilities. I think that is what makes his demeanor on the mound yesterday and his comments afterward so disconcerting to all of us. Both seemed to indicate that he doesn’t believe he can right the ship. He seems to be frustrated over why it isn’t working. I hope Marty Mason can identify something mechanically that is causing his issues, or that maybe just some time off will clear his head. If not, I think your point has been poignant. I think we would be remiss to not take a moment to reflect on what has been an era of some terrific players proudly displaying the Birds On the Bat. Then, we can turn the page and look to what is hopefully the start of a great new era.

by etp_stl on May 10, 2008 10:56 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Izzy swears he's not hurt this time.

See the main article at www.stltoday.com/cards.

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on May 10, 2008 10:59 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Then, I believe him.

As I said, he has shown to be a man of integrity; so I believe he is really not injured.

by etp_stl on May 10, 2008 11:01 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I agree.

But that actually makes his ineffectiveness even more frustrating—for him and us.

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Darrell Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms on October 20, 1982!

by 82Special on May 10, 2008 11:06 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

So, that leaves ...

confidence, age, or mechanics. Two of the three may be resolved. Age can’t be reversed.

by etp_stl on May 10, 2008 11:10 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

But Izzy said he didn't tell anyone

when he was hurt…so what are we to believe? I’m not saying he’s a bad person or of low personal integrity…I don’t believe that. What I am saying is that these guys have grown up in a culture where it’s not OK to say that you are hurt. Maybe he can’t feel pain….that doesn’t mean there isn’t a problem somewhere in his hip/spine/arm etc.

He says his mechanics are to blame. How long has he been pitching? Usually at his age if the mechanics go, its because he has a problem somewhere in his body? Did he just forget how to pitch? I doubt it. His velocity is down and his cutter doesn’t move. Very reminiscent of ‘06.

He is lights out when he is healthy…...e.g. Last year

mattnj

by mattnj on May 10, 2008 11:12 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

doing what he did last night is way, way harder

than just saying “i’m hurt”

CUTTER BAD!! NO CUTTER!

by Valatan on May 10, 2008 11:48 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Between conjecture and statement, ...

you have to believe the statement. We can all choose to assume what the problem might be. His past has not indicated that he NEVER told them he was hurt. He indicated that his hip was an issue when it became painfully obvious to him that he could no longer do his job. His comments clearly indicate that he believes he has reached that point this year, and then he says that it is NOT an injury issue.

by etp_stl on May 10, 2008 1:05 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Well said.

I hate that Izzy blew it again, but you have to admire the willingness to not only accept the blame, but also admit that he doesn’t understand what’s going on.

One of the things that used to drive me nuts about Jason Marquis was that he always, even after another multi-run short inning outing, just had to make a “minor adjustment’, or needed to throw another pitch less or more.

I respect a guy that can say, hey, somethings seriously not right, and I can’t see what it is.

BTW, this is how I felt when the Cardinals began deconstructing the Whiteyball team after the 87 season. Can’t remember the exact sequenecs that lost us Clark, McGee, and Pendleton, but I do remember laying on my bed crying and cursing Dal Maxville when they got rid of Clark. I was seven, and having just seen him hit a walkoff hr in extra innings the previous summer, he was my favorite ballplayer at the time.

by fuegophil on May 10, 2008 11:01 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

That was worse.

That team was dismantled for financial reasons. I remember waiting out the ‘90 season to watch Coleman, McGee, and Pendleton leave in one way or another. It was made extremely clear during that season that none of them would be resigned. These were not players that couldn’t do it any more. McGee won the batting title that year AFTER being traded to the American League for better than the last month of the season. Pendleton went on to be a major component of the Braves’ run. Coleman didn’t fair as well, but you can’t send a guy with a Coke problem to New York City.

At least this time, it is an issue of players reaching the end of the road.

by etp_stl on May 10, 2008 11:06 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Marquis

Perfect contrast to make in this situation. That’s my main thought as well, and I stated it on other forums under different names. Man, I could hardly stomach Marquis. Partly because he would get rocked fairly often, but mostly because you could be assured that in the postgame comments he would be delusional. Remember after getting shelled by the Astros in the playoffs? You’d think he pitched fairly well and let one or 2 pitches get away from him if you listened to him. Of course he also sulked when he was left off the playoff roster. And now in the spring for the Cubs, he suggested they trade him when he figured out he’d have to compete for a rotation spot. Now there is a guy that doesn’t know his place in the world. Kip Wells and his passive aggressive pissing and moaning about just missing his innings bonus after months of passive aggressive pitching really got me going too.

Izzy does none of that. He made what is a very sticky situation for Tony, whether we want to admit it or not, a hell of a lot easier. He knows he doesn’t have it right now and says so. Left implied is that he may never have it again. What more can the guy say? I’m sure he’d rather not say it but he does. The only reason he would is because he knows it’s better for the team. I think you gotta respect a guy that will do that out of loyalty to the guys he works with out of the pen.

Great points by Red Baron too. He deserves decent treatment from the fans. This happens to every ballplayer eventually. And the “He makes millions and I paid for a ticket” line of thinking doesn’t wash with me. Strikes me as a form of class envy that isn’t productive for anyone. The line that has become so cliche – “He feels worse than anybody” – clearly applies here.

by Merry CRasmus on May 10, 2008 11:33 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Everyone seems to forget

that Izzy is still the closer until TLR says that he ain’t. That would mean that TLR would have to admit that he made a mistake in continuing to send Izzy to close the last several weeks when he obviously had nothing on his pitches. TLR will never admit a mistake. I see Izzy losing more ballgames in the closer role. I’d almost be willing to bet the farm.

Steriods is...is bad.

by Handsome Jimmy on May 10, 2008 11:14 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs