Why Can't I Quit You?
Again last night, Anthony Reyes came in to the game and made a believer out of me. Everytime I give up on the kid, he does something that I get all excited about again. It's more than a little irritating. Why can't I just move on with my life, and find some new young pitcher to hang my hopes on, someone who won't hurt me? Why, Anthony? Why?
That was a beautiful pitching performance last night by Mr. Reyes. His mechanics were good, much like his first appearance of the season. His velocity was the best we've seen in quite a while, averaging 92-93 with his fastball and touching 95 once or twice. He seems to have sharpened his breaking ball, made it back into more of a slider and less of a humpy curveball. I particularly love the last changeup that he threw to Berkman. Last year's version tries to throw a curve, maybe an 88mph belt high special, whatever; either way, it's gone. This year, though, perfect. Wicked change, with fade and a nice little drop to it, right over the outside corner. If Berkman had taken it, it would have been a strike. He had no choice but to swing, and he had no chance to do anything with it. A big time pitch in a big time situation.
After the game, Tony raved about Reyes. Per Joe Strauss:
"We don't have a chance without Anthony. That was very high quality."
Dave Duncan was also asked about Anthony, and his postgame comments were a little less, shall we say, excited. He did say the outing was impressive, but when asked specifically about Reyes's increased velocity this season:
"When you don't have a great deal of movement, velocity is important."
Is that not just the worst compliment you've ever heard in your life? To a very pretty girl you see on the street: "It's a good thing you're so pretty, 'cause otherwise everyone would notice how flat chested you are." I say this not to start another 'Duncan hates Reyes' bitchfest, but only because it's incredibly funny to me. You can actually hear the air that carries the words burning his lips as he tries to do the right thing and encourage the kid. Poor guy.
Alright. Enough about all of that.
The offense is really starting to worry me. Teams seem to have absolutely no intention of throwing Albert anything resembling a hittable strike, and so far, the amount of punishment inflicted on them for it has been less than impressive. If Glaus can get it going, that's obviously a big plus, but I still worry about the lack of depth toward the end of this lineup. At the moment, Yadi is putting up a 118 OPS+, which I'm afraid isn't sustainable, and the rest of the guys down there are still very, very weak. Adam Kennedy is hitting better, yes, but he has no real power to speak of, so he's pretty much strictly a singles guy at this point. Izturis I don't even want to get in to.
So, where is the offensive improvement going to come from? If this is really all there is, the pitchers had better get used to putting up the best season in baseball history, because we're going to need them to keep it up.
Going into the season, I think most of us were terrified of the starting rotation. So far, though, the pitchers have been fantastic; it's the offense that's been positively, well, offensive. In spite of the low output to this point, though, there are some definite reasons for optimism.
To this point, the Cardinals rank 2nd in the National League in OBP, at .352. While that's probably not a number that they can keep up, at the very least, it indicates a much better, less hacktastic approach at the plate this year. I don't know if it's just the players themselves, or if the coaching staff has made it a point to emphasize a more patient approach, but it definitely appears as if the team as a whole is a much tougher out this season. If they can continue getting on base at a solid pace, the power numbers for some of the big boppers are going to come, and the runs along with them. Remember, even if some of the guys hitting well so far fall off average wise, OBP is much less likely to vary wildly. More than anything, the team's approach early in the season gives me reason to be optimistic about them. So far, this team feels more like the 2004 or 2005 Cardinals at the plate; a team that worked counts, showed excellent discipline, and very rarely got themselves out. Whoever is responsible for the change, bravo. This team has got to be patient to succeed, particularly at the bottom of the order. Cesar Izturis is never going to hit .300 or put 20 over the wall, but if he can maintain an OBP even in the .330 range, this offense will take off, and sooner rather than later I think.
One last bit. Congratulation to Doug Davis, of the Arizona Diamondbacks, who pitched marvelously last night. It was his last start before he's slated to undergo surgery related to his thyroid cancer. I'm sure that all of our thoughts and prayers go out to Mr. Davis as he fights to get himself healthy. I disliked him a ton when we had to face him with the Brewers, and that's the highest compliment I can offer to an opposing player. I never hoped to see his name on the card.
Good Luck, Doug. We're all pulling for you.
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Pretty girl analogy
She is smokin' hot..... but batsh*t crazy..... That's how I feel about Reyes
Here's the deal, I'm the best there is, plain and simple, I mean I wake up every morning and I kiss excellence, and nobody can hang with my stuff, uh, you know I'm just a, just a big hairy American winning machine.....
by Schnake on Apr 9, 2008 8:07 AM EDT 0 recs
Offensive improvement
It will come from Duncan...... Or a trade. How many starting pitchers do we have?
Wainright
Pineiro
Looper
Thompson
Wellemeyer
Clement
Lohse
Mulder
Carpenter
Reyes
We are so lucky their value is rising.
Here's the deal, I'm the best there is, plain and simple, I mean I wake up every morning and I kiss excellence, and nobody can hang with my stuff, uh, you know I'm just a, just a big hairy American winning machine.....
by Schnake on Apr 9, 2008 8:12 AM EDT 0 recs
re: trade
Actually, while watching the game on FSN midwest last night, they had Mo as their guest and were interviewing him. It think it was McLaughlin (sp?). At any rate, the question they asked was "we've got so many pitchers, and granted it's early, but what do you think will happen come the trade deadline? If we've got such a surplus, do you make a trade?" And Mo was pretty candid with his answer, stating that given the choice to stand pat or make a trade with a surplus of starting pitchers, he would hope that the market would be such that we (the Cards) would have the pieces to make a play or two and in return, get something that would help us improve in the areas we might be needing something, not just for this year, but the future in general.
Sure, he was choosing his words carefully, but I found it optimistic that he'd want to make a trade (or multiple trades) for talent that wouldn't just fulfill the "win now" mentality, but would help set us up for success further down the line. That and the fact that I couldn't help but think maybe he was referring to the SS position in terms of "needing something."
by A1R3Z on
Apr 9, 2008 9:17 AM EDT
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Yeah
I'm a big fan of this regime's communication with the fans. It's not like he's giving out any real inside information anyway but it's still a nice interview #1 and #2 nice to hear from management.
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
by joker24 on
Apr 9, 2008 10:50 AM EDT
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+1
I was a real fan of Walt Jocketty, but I enjoyed that interview with Mo more than the game itself. I DVR'ed it and watched it twice. He seems like a really neat guy. I think we may be very happy with our SECOND choice of GM for the future.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
by Eckstreem on
Apr 9, 2008 12:01 PM EDT
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Of that list
Wellemeyer, Looper, Clement and Lohse should be traded or released by mid-season.
Wainwright, Pineiro, Mulder, Carpenter and Reyes should battle it out for the rotation with Thompson going back to his very good long relief role.
Mulder has 4 months to show the club that it is prudent to pick up his option. Reyes has 4 months to raise his stock with either this club or any other club looking for a starting pitcher in the off-season.
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by Hardcore Legend on
Apr 9, 2008 10:54 AM EDT
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Wow, you're totally giving up
on all 4 of those guys? I wish I had your confidence in the guys who will still be here.
AFAIAC, Mulder doesn't exist until I see him putting up zeroes (i.e., not sucking) on a major league mound. And I wouldn't bet more than the price of a bagel that we'll see that this year.
by MdRedbirdFreak on
Apr 9, 2008 11:48 AM EDT
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Giving up?
Hardly. Well, Clement provides no real value for this team going forward. Looper is a free agent after this year. Lohse is as well. Wellemeyer is just the odd man out. It's not like we've found some magic formula to make him a great starter over the next 4 years. He was a stop gap and I can only hope the team finds a longterm solution instead of need Todd Wellemeyer.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on
Apr 9, 2008 12:00 PM EDT
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Welly
Hardcore, I really don't understand what you are getting at here. I do agree with you that Wellemeyer was a stopgap at the time we got him, but everyone agreed that he had major league stuff, just bad control. He is still young, and he seems to have figured some of those control issues out. He also has a great build, and seems to have a rubber arm. If he can continue to throw strikes, I really like the guy in our rotation.
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
by Eckstreem on
Apr 9, 2008 12:04 PM EDT
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Yeah
At this point, he certainly looks to be the best of the three guys at the back of the rotation. Maybe it's a smokescreen. The Sydney Ponson deal looked pretty brilliant around this time in 2006.
"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams
by Valatan on
Apr 9, 2008 1:00 PM EDT
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To be clear, my reference to "giving up"
was a direct response to your statement that you wanted all 4 guys off the team. In the sense that I don't expect anything more than averageness (and maybe not even that) from them, however, I don't really disagree with you.
by MdRedbirdFreak on
Apr 9, 2008 12:18 PM EDT
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Not to lower the bar but...
I'm a bit confused about the overall disdain for anyone that's only league average. In my opinion, the vast majority of your team has to be made up of guys that are league average plus a couple of exceptional players. Of course the Sox and Yankees are the exception to that rule because of the checkbook. As long as you're not overpaying the league average guys I think you're OK. I get the whole youth movement too, but I don't think you can simply replace every league average guy on your team with a kid 2 or 3 years younger than them - they just won't develop.
by birdo rojo on
Apr 9, 2008 1:04 PM EDT
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I don't think Mulder will stick ... and I don't think LaRuncan ...
will give Reyes a fair shot at the rotation ... given that, I believe Wellemeyer and Lohse are keepers ... If Wellemeyer doesn't stick in the rotation (which I doubt), he is still valuable in the pen, especially if there are injuries there ... I don't see any sense, really, in dealing away Lohse ... he's a great pitcher ... and I hope he and the Cards agree he has found a home ...
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by Cardinals4Ever on
Apr 9, 2008 1:31 PM EDT
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Two knocks on Lohse:
1. He hasn't put together a full season of decent-to-good pitching yet - i.e. he hasn't proven his ceiling.
2. He has Boras as his agent, and was asking 4 yrs $40 mil this offseason even despite point #1.
I agree with you that he might prove himself to be one of our top 5, and worthy of keeping, but both of these points make him a risky bet to retain through the end of the year.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on
Apr 9, 2008 1:51 PM EDT
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If we really liked Lohse
we could still trade him at mid-season and resign him as a FA in the off-season. I don't think they will like him THAT much.
I wasn't knocking Todd Wellemeyer but I also don't think he is the future of the Cardinals starting rotation. With guys like him and Looper, you use them to get as much success out of them as possible while you look for a better option.
I can only hope that going into 2009, the Cardinals have a better option.
As far as Mulder, I think he'll stick. I think he is finally healthy.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on
Apr 9, 2008 2:17 PM EDT
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When is the last time St. Louey got into a Scott Boras bidding war?
Trade him this year????? Pick him up as a free agent???? It will be interesting to see how effective Mulder will be, or any of the reclamation pitchers. They were hurt because of their throwing styles. Have they made adjustments? I would guess management may bail some salary before they trade Lohse. The chances of two out of the four wounded returning to their former stature seems remote,,,,, Just a thought.
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on
Apr 9, 2008 6:02 PM EDT
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St. Louis actually has a pretty good relationship with Boras
Rick Ankiel has always been a Boras client, and the club generated a lot of good will through their treatment of him. Additionally, the Cards were willing to pay JD Drew's draft day price where no other team was.
Sure, there are bad examples, as there are between Boras and any team. The Jeff Weaver negotiations went sour, as did the Andy Benes deal back in the day. But on the whole, I don't think the Cards are one of the teams with a ban on dealing with him.
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on
Apr 9, 2008 7:04 PM EDT
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I think that's the truest thing
Dunc has ever said about Reyes. Lack of movement is the reason why he needs velocity and location to be successful. If Dunc had been hammering on that point all this time, we would have better understood his attitude about AR.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 9, 2008 8:15 AM EDT 0 recs
Lack of movement
is also why he needs to pitch up in the zone. His fastball hops and tails when thrown at the top of the zone, but is pretty straight otherwise.
Those Pilgrims ain't lookin' so proud now...
by giveml on
Apr 9, 2008 10:40 AM EDT
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Tony's comments border on hyperbole
He doesn't love Anthony that much, he just "gets it." The Cards will never get rid of Anthony unless they drum up a decent market for him and Tony gets that so his comments are over the top.
Duncan, on the other hand, I have absolutely no use for. Does he ever have anything to say that even approaches honesty? I'm still stuck on his vehement, almost bordering on ranting, defense of his son's (Shelly's) indefensibly dangerous spring training slide vs. the Rays. It was indisputably a cheap shot and Duncan went into some public screed about what a great play it was and how Shelly always plays hard. Reyes seems to be showing marked improvement in his pitching and all Duncan has to say is this backhanded bitch-slap of his very strong performance. My advice to the media is to quit asking Duncan questions b/c he will ALWAYS say something negative about Reyes and something positive about one of his pets.
by houstoncardinal on Apr 9, 2008 8:23 AM EDT 1 recs
"it wasn't an easy game for him" --
Dunc's comments about Thompson pretty poor performance last night, as if to imply that circumstances just made it really difficult on poor Brad. He was playing w/ a handicap, so don't be so harsh about Brad's poor performance last night. Absurd! It's hard to believe anything that comes out of that man's mouth.
by houstoncardinal on
Apr 9, 2008 8:26 AM EDT
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double standards
What really bothers me is not that he criticizes Reyes but that he seems to refuse to do the same to Thompson. Personally I thought Reyes had great movement on his fastball last night. Maybe I saw something different than everyone else but that high 4 seamer to Berkman started out right over the plate and ended up high and outside by a wide margin.
Was I also the only one impressed with how he kept his cool with a runner at third? He just kept pounding the ball into the glove.
by StLHugo on
Apr 9, 2008 8:44 AM EDT
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Dunc
Criticizes Thompson all last year. They bounced him between Starting, the pen, and triple AAA.
by Evilfrog on
Apr 9, 2008 10:29 AM EDT
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Angling for a Trade
Personally, I read Tony's quote as applying only to the single game, i.e., that the Cards wouldn't have succeeded last night without Reyes, but not as a comment on the team's chances for the season.
That said, I agree that Tony's comments likely are geared toward ginning up a trade partner. We've got about five pitchers too many, both starters and relievers, and we can't afford to DFA all of them. I see Springer, Franklin, Reyes, Villone (or Flores), and Clement leaving the team by some means or another.
Despite Reyes' success, I don't see how he stays on the team through June, much less after Carp comes back.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
by Titus Pullo on
Apr 9, 2008 11:41 AM EDT
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Disagree
I disagree wholeheartedly with your LaRussa comments. Everything I've read regarding LaRussa has been either positive for Reyes or if negative, defending something Duncan has said. Tony and Dunc don't agree on everything but he will always publicly back Duncan.
That being said, he constantly talks about "Reyes toughness getting through last season", and you could tell how proud LaRussa was of Reyes after he took him out the last inning (when the FSN cameras panned to him going over to talk to Reyes twice). He came over and looked like he was giving him effusive praise.
While Reyes may still be far into Duncan's doghouse, he left LaRussa's a long time ago. I actually think LaRussa likes him (thus he's been putting him in bigger situations). I also think the relief role might be the best thing for Reyes. At least in the short term. (It definitely helped Wainwright).
"A hot dog at the ballpark is better than a steak at the Ritz." Humphrey Bogart
by MRCARD on
Apr 9, 2008 12:30 PM EDT
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i agree
even last year i remember post reyes' pitched game interviews with Tony where he actually sounded in defense of the kid. after games he would blame it on the offense especially early in the year.
i think tony likes the kid. duncan is the one with issues.
plus from what we've seen over the last year is that larussa doesn't really seem to care about his effect on trade value, good or bad. it seems he says whatever he wants despite the public reaction.
"Sorry about him, he's dealing with being an inker. " - Chasing Amy
by FutureMan on
Apr 9, 2008 2:12 PM EDT
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When Pinero joins the rotation
who goes? I would suggest putting Looper back into the 8th inning setup role. But, hey, that's just my worthless opinion.
Steriods is...is bad.
by Handsome Jimmy on Apr 9, 2008 8:56 AM EDT 0 recs
I'd guess
Thompson. I think we'll have a better idea tomorrow. I don't think Looper gets bumped first, unless he just stinks it up tonight.
by mikeonthecards on
Apr 9, 2008 9:14 AM EDT
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Looper
will have to have a lot of really bad performances to get moved from the rotation. There seems to be a lot of sentiment here for that to happen but is he appreciably worse than Thompson or Wellemeyer? No and even if it should happen, it won't unless he pitches poorly for an extended period of time.
by houstoncardinal on
Apr 9, 2008 10:14 AM EDT
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Looper fills a need
the problem with their stubborness is that the team needs a legitimate 7th inning RHP while Springer is on the DL and Braden Looper fills that need.
Unfortunately, he wants to stay in the rotation and LaDuncan see no problem with it.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on
Apr 9, 2008 11:35 AM EDT
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Reyes is the long reliever
They should be stretching him out, not reducing his work load.
McClellan is 1-2 as far as good performances thus far this year. He was lights out in his first appearence, very shaky in his second and flat out awful in his latest.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on
Apr 9, 2008 11:39 AM EDT
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I think that it will be Thompson
But we'll see. I agree that Looper would make a great 8th inning man. They could just as easy decided to let the rotation go through again.
by Evilfrog on
Apr 9, 2008 10:34 AM EDT
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Loop Will Be the Last to Go
As I mentioned in my comment yesterday, I think Thompson goes to the pen first, then Welle when Mulder returns, and Loop goes only when Carp comes back.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
by Titus Pullo on
Apr 9, 2008 11:28 AM EDT
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i agree
Looper is the last to go, I think he'll get delt before they would put him back in the pen. Then again he might not leave, I won't be putting any money on any of the pitchers' health
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by elirock83 on
Apr 9, 2008 3:02 PM EDT
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I'm of the opinion
...that a lot of the time we pretend to know what's going on in the clubhouse when we actually have no idea.
To me, however, those two quotes speak volumes about the Anthony Reyes situation, confirming all the speculation I had, until now, taken with a grain of salt. Duncan's just an old grump who, for some reason, doesn't like Reyes.
by mojowo11 on Apr 9, 2008 8:58 AM EDT 0 recs
i agree with
this comment:
we pretend to know what's going on in the clubhouse when we actually have no idea.
however, boiling Duncan down to this:
an old grump who, for some reason, doesn't like Reyes.is short-sighted.
obviously, there are some issues between the two. It's likely a personality conflict or just stubbornness on both sides. who knows what the specifics are? There seems to be an eager forgiveness of Anthony's ineffective play and rush to chastise Duncan.
When it comes to distributing blame, i'd prefer to be a little more even-handed.
I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.
by _pistol_ on
Apr 9, 2008 3:28 PM EDT
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A more patient approach...
Indeed, there was an article in the PD the other day about the emphasis on Plate Discipline this year.
by AndyB83 on Apr 9, 2008 9:05 AM EDT 0 recs
The Cards
through La Russa's mix and match philosophy can put up a pretty good first five batting order. It is the 6 thru 9 slots that bother me. As much as Yadi pours himself into the defensive side of catching I just can't see him having the stamina to be a productive 6 place hitter for a whole year.
Kennedy, although so far has looked better than last year still has that funny swing that looked so bad last year. ( I just can't get used to that swing) I guess that been his swing for all his years with the Angels and he had some productive years when he was younger but will it carry him into the thirties when the bat slows a little. His contract dictates that we go with him this year though so that is one spot where there will probably be no change.
The the pitcher batting 8th probably wont change so that only leave the all important 9th spot. There sits Ituriz. Will the Cardinals stick with him there for his defense or will it become necessary to make a move. As long as La Russa can keep mixing and matching to keep a fairly hot first five, no he won't.
Everybody in the first five except Pujols are kind of streak hitters and I would like to find one more steady hitter. That is why I would like to see Barton play a little more to see if he is a steady hitter (or even if he is major league ready). I don't know, does anybody here know how to solve the bottom four.
by ridgesee on Apr 9, 2008 9:13 AM EDT 0 recs
Solving the bottom four...
Get some different players?
Mandatory 'B12' shots?
Suits of robotic armour?
Maybe some sort of deal could be struck with the Castle Greyskull folks.
Honestly, that's my real concern. There are just too many automatic outs at the bottom of this lineup. So far, it hasn't been a problem, but I really do worry about just that subject.
Que sera.
by the red baron on
Apr 9, 2008 9:34 AM EDT
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Castle Greyskull...lol
that takes me back to a simpler time...
"Back in the day when I played, a pitcher had 3 pitches: a fastball, a curveball, a slider, a changeup and a good sinker pitch." - Mike Shannon
by nomar34 on
Apr 9, 2008 11:35 AM EDT
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How did that go
"By the power of Grayskull.......?"
by gonzostl on
Apr 9, 2008 12:19 PM EDT
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This may be old, but...
Did anyone else notice the sarcastic comment in this week's SN about Reyes? It was to the effect that the Cards were being "generous" in offering to trade a pitcher with a MLB record of 5-23 and an ERA in the mid-5's. Sounded almost as if Reyes was a joke around MLB. If this has already been discussed, sorry. I've been busy and haven't been able to read everything.
by vinniefromjersey on Apr 9, 2008 9:17 AM EDT 0 recs
Gotcha.
I didn't see those comments. Interesting.
For whatever it may be worth, (and that's probably not much) I think the idea of trading Reyes if much more ridiculous to the media types than it is to actual baseball organisations. The analysts and whatnot all look at his record and laugh. If the teams themselves were doing the same, though, I don't think we would have seen so much scouting interest in Anthony toward the end of Spring Training.
Don't get me wrong, I don't think teams are lining up to try and deal for Reyes, but I think that they're all much more aware of what kind of talent he has, and what he could potentially do, than the media is. Unfortunately for the Cardinals, the other teams believe, (and rightly so, probably) that they'll eventually be able to pick a guy like him up for virtually nothing, simply because the situation here is so untenable. Note: when I say untenable, I'm only referring to Anthony Reyes and the Cardinals, not the overall situation with the manager and pitching coach. In this particular case, I'm not trying to criticise them, or at least not much.
Que sera.
by the red baron on
Apr 9, 2008 9:40 AM EDT
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They can't be laughing
too much after last night. I just hope he improves his value and they get something for him before the predicted arm troubles begin.
To me, in trying to interpret Duncan over the years, it seems he thinks Reyes lacks the killer instinct, which he defends so strongly in his son. I think it's attitude as much as physical ability to pitch.
by vinniefromjersey on
Apr 9, 2008 9:46 AM EDT
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Sporting News
My dad used to buy me the Sporting News baseball season preview every year when I was a kid. This year, at the grocery store, I bought it out of nostalgia. I didn't even make it past the Cardinals preview. It was ill-informed. My nostalgia was stripped away by multiple bits of poor reporting and then the fact that they don't even have OBP in their stat lines. The Sporting News is a rag, a monument to archaic baseball thinking.
by bgh on
Apr 9, 2008 11:09 AM EDT
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agreed
i stopped reading the sporting news long ago.
"Sorry about him, he's dealing with being an inker. " - Chasing Amy
by FutureMan on
Apr 9, 2008 2:16 PM EDT
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Reyes' Mechanics
For the record, Reyes' mechanics haven't changed. They are as problematic as ever.
by thepainguy on Apr 9, 2008 9:21 AM EDT 0 recs
His arm action
has not, you're absolutely right. They're still a nightmare. However, I do think he's doing a much better job of incorporating his legs into his delivery, allowing him to generate more power. Will it help him long term, with that much of an Inv. W? Probably not. But for now, he's generating much more oomph on the ball, and I feel that it has everything to do with his much more aggressive, (at least to my eye) leg drive.
Que sera.
by the red baron on
Apr 9, 2008 9:28 AM EDT
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Just eyeballing it
He's really focusing on keeping that front side closed right before release. I don't know if that's giving him the velo or what but I noticed that on the first pitch of his that I saw.
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
by joker24 on
Apr 9, 2008 11:05 AM EDT
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Correction
His arm action hasn't changed. But Baron is right...He's been a lot more physical with his lower half, which should take some (not all, some) pressure off his arm. Arm action is just one part of pitching mechanics.
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by redbirdnation8206 on
Apr 9, 2008 1:49 PM EDT
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Rico...
where for art thou, Rico?
Thanks for the highlight moments 15 and 27!!!
by cardzfanbub on Apr 9, 2008 9:24 AM EDT 0 recs
Pujols
The topic on 590 TheFan this morning was Pujols' play at the plate. The DJ's seem to think that it is the most embarrassing play since Pujols' bat flip in Pittsburgh when the Cardinals were losing. I saw the play and didn't think much of it, but a huge deal was being made out of it on the radio. Thoughts?
"Forget about the curveball Ricky...Give him the heater!!"
by BleacherBum on Apr 9, 2008 9:34 AM EDT 0 recs
Albert
may need to tread a little lightly in the batter's box today, but if that's all they've really got to talk about, it must be an awfully slow news day. It was a little cheap, but not over the top ridiculous what the hell was he doing cheap.
Let's put it this way: It wasn't Shelley Duncan cheap.
Que sera.
by the red baron on
Apr 9, 2008 9:42 AM EDT
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Towles was blocking the plate with his left leg
Albert slid through it. Didn't seem cheap to me at all. Runner's got a right to running down the baseline.
by azruavatar on
Apr 9, 2008 10:08 AM EDT
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Towles was off the plate
It wasn't even clear if Pujols touched the plate at all with his initial slide.
by bailorg on
Apr 9, 2008 10:11 AM EDT
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I thought the same thing
Looked like he made a point of stepping on the plate rather quickly on his way back to the dugout.
"Do what you want to the women and children but leave me alone"- George Carlin
by That's a Winner on
Apr 9, 2008 10:19 AM EDT
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Did Pujols come in
sholder first standing up...no he came in with a hard slide( without eyes in the back of his head) how picky can baseball get. Does anybody remember how baseball was played 30 years ago. Anybody ever heard of Pete Rose.
by ridgesee on
Apr 9, 2008 10:35 AM EDT
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Pete Rose
I would be ecstatic if more of our players played like Pete Rose.
Here's the deal, I'm the best there is, plain and simple, I mean I wake up every morning and I kiss excellence, and nobody can hang with my stuff, uh, you know I'm just a, just a big hairy American winning machine.....
by Schnake on
Apr 9, 2008 10:39 AM EDT
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That's the way the game should be played ...
Aggressively ... it was always played like that in the past ... but in this age of 'politcally correct' and 'always be nice', the game has dumbed down ... it was good to see an aggressive, bad-arse slide from Pujols ... hope it happens much more often ...
Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...
by Cardinals4Ever on
Apr 9, 2008 10:57 AM EDT
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I'm not against hard-nosed baseball
I'm just saying that if the Astros were to plunk Pujols today, the Cards would have little to complain about.
by bailorg on
Apr 9, 2008 10:56 AM EDT
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Plunk'em right back ...
Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...
by Cardinals4Ever on
Apr 9, 2008 10:57 AM EDT
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Strike'em all out, that's the way to "beat" them
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
by joker24 on
Apr 9, 2008 11:06 AM EDT
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Don't plunk Pujols....
ya don't wanna get the big guy mad! Do that (and give him a pitch to hit) and he might break the freakin' roof at Enron Field!
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on
Apr 9, 2008 11:06 AM EDT
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