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the beauty of low expectations

by far my favorite part of the weekend was watching brian barton leg out that triple on saturday. a veritable whiteyballer --- dude’s feet don’t even touch the ground when he runs. barton looks relaxed at the plate, seems to recognize pitches and make adjustments. he doubled on a 1-2 slider friday night, singled off a changeup later in that game, then took another 1-2 slider the opposite way for the triple on saturday. i like the skill set, the attitude, and the look; hope the kid sticks.

re rick ankiel --- it’s good to see him knocking the cover off the ball again (by golly, maybe he ain’t a fluke after all), but to me the real revelation so far has been his defense. am i the only one surprised to see him making highlight-reel plays? i don’t recall him making a single one of those last year. nor do i remember him getting such a consistently good jump on the ball --- check out his reaction on milledge’s line drive in the 9th yesterday. if he’s a quarter-beat slower (as a certain 37-year-old cf was last year), that ball’s over his head. my memory’s not so good anymore; maybe he played this kind of D last year and i simply don’t remember anymore. whatever the case, after only 6 games the outfield D already looks palpably better than last year’s. but --- oops --- chris duncan is just about set to return to the lineup . . . . .

kyle lohse curveball update: he threw it 12 times yesterday in 102 pitches, about twice as often as he threw it on opening day. 10 of the 12 came against left-handed hitters; for one game, anyway, the curve replaced the changeup as lohse’s off-speed pitch of choice against lefties. 9 of the 12 curves crossed the plate for strikes; the nats only swung at 3 of them and only put 2 into play (both by the only right-handed hitter to see a lohse curve, lastings milledge --- he popped up and flew out). of particular note, lohse threw the curve 5 times on the first pitch and 4 times with men in scoring position --- he wasn’t just throwing it in safe counts / safe situations.

another mildly interesting thing about lohse’s pitch selection: when the score differential was 1 run or less, lohse threw 26 fastballs in 44 pitches (59 percent). but after the cards went ahead 2-0 in the bottom of the 3d, lohse stripped down the repertoire and starting pumping more fastballs in there, 38 out of 55 pitches (69 percent). just what you’d expect a pitcher to do; boring and common-sensical. i bet dave duncan deserves a little credit for that; can’t prove it, just guessing.

i read somewhere that the cards’ last 5-1 start came in 2000. that got me curious about fast starts more broadly --- how often do the cards start out 5-1? and if we look forward, how often do they start 6-1, 7-1, and so forth? i only looked back at the last 40 years, ie to 1969 --- the beginning of divisional play, and more pertinent the year i began to pay attention to baseball. within that span, the 2008 cards are the 6th st louis team to start the season 5-1. no team has gone 6-0; last team to do that was El Birdos in 1967. here’s the complete list of 5-1 starters --- the "w-l" columns refer to final regular-season record; the "rs" and "ra" columns refer to runs scored and allowed during the 6 opening games:

w-lplrsra
2008 --- --- 25 13
2000 95-67 1st 52 27
1986 79-82 3d 29 12
1983 79-83 4th 31 14
1977 83-79 3d 39 23
1974 86-75 2d 35 24

four of the teams on this list extended the hot start to 6-1, and two (the 2000 and 1986 teams) opened 7-1; no cardinal team has opened the season 8-1 since i don’t know when. you’ll note that the 2008 cards rank last in runs scored on this list and second-to-last in run differential --- i draw no conclusions at all from those facts, just i thought i would call your attn to ‘m.

which cardinal teams of recent vintage have had the best record after 10 games? surprisingly enough, only one team of the last 4 decades has won more than 7 games in the first 10 --- the 1981 cards, who started 8-2. a dozen teams have opened with 7-3 marks, including forgettable outfits such as 1993, 1998, and 1999. i didn’t count all the 6-4 teams; there were quite a many.

it’s too early to draw any conclusions, but like all of you i couldn’t be more pleasantly surprised by this start. one of the beauties of low expectations is how easily they are surpassed. keep surprising us, fellahs.

final item --- here's a question and a poll re the not-quite-finished, not-quite-forgotten simulation tournament. i’ve gotten extremely backed up in my work and don’t have team to write even the most cursory game summaries for the tournament. nearly all of our summary-writing crew is in the same boat ---- overcommitted at work, traveling, what have you. for those of you who are still interested in the outcome, i offer two options. i can return to posting the results, one game per series per day --- but i’ll just post links to the box scores, unaccompanied by any summary. that’s the shortest path to the conclusion of the tournament. however, if you feel the summaries are essential to the experience, then the second option is ---- the results will be posted on a halting, as-time-permits timetable.

i’ll abide by the majority. i’d hoped to get this all wrapped up before opening day, but it just didn’t happen. best-laid plans, &c. sorry.

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Hobbs

I too am shocked at the jump Rick is getting on balls in Center this season. The only great play I remember him making last season was on a ball in right that he took a bad route on, adjusted, and made a lunging catch up against the wall. In center, he just didn't look comfortable at all. This year he looks like a born CF. This kid adjusts so quickly. His pitch recognition, the way he hits left-handers ... Rick has gone from a raw talent to J.D. Drew playing with emotion in a few months. Astonishing. I am pulling for Barton to be our everyday leadoff hitter. The only problem with that is he can't play RF due to his arm. Thus, the only way to play Duncan and Barton together is put Duncan in left / Barton center / Ankiel in right (gotta play Hobbs). Hate to move Ankiel around, let him settle into CF.

by jjray on Apr 7, 2008 9:05 AM EDT   0 recs

I agree

but eventually Rasmus is going to move him to right anyway. I also don't think Duncan can put together a full solid season. I say leave Barton in left and let him compete with Duncan for the position. When Rasmus comes up, move Rick to right....

by eglasier on Apr 7, 2008 9:24 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Probably not discussed that often but

Its a heck of a lot easier to get a jump on the ball in CF. You have a clear view of the strike zone and can intuitively see/feel where the ball is going a lot easier than RF where the balls hook and slice and aren't quite as easy to see off the bat. Either way, I love the way Rick is playing CF.

mattnj

by mattnj on Apr 7, 2008 11:43 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Duncan has played some RF

I remember some of it in the 2006 postseason. People said he would be more comfortable in right because he's a natural 1B and would be on the same side of the field, but I feel like he made a stupid error, maybe against the Tigers. Not advocating, just bringing it up.

Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country

by Mr Redbird on Apr 7, 2008 12:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He made two stupid errors

But Jeff Weaver didn't get phased. Jeff Weaver not getting phased...It just doesn't sound right. Man that was a fun World Series.

by Evilfrog on Apr 7, 2008 12:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Those were in LF.

Mr. Duncan's two-error game came playing in LF that year.

by etp_stl on Apr 7, 2008 6:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The game they're talking about is

Game 5 of the WS - he played in right field and made two terrible plays. Although if I remember correctly he was not charged with an error on the second play, even though he deserved it.

by Phizzle on Apr 7, 2008 10:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I was at the game yesterday..

best seats of my life two rows behind the Nats...will I ever be able to sit in the terrace seats again? Probably...

Anyway, Lohse looked great in the box score, but from the 2nd till probably the 5th inning he through more balls than strikes. Thank god for aggressive hitters. There's no way he should have made it seven innings or walked only one batter. His final breakdown looks okay 100 pitches 63 K's, but at around 60 pitches it was 50/50.

Ankiel looked great (obviously) ridiculous natural talent! Barton looked good...I don't understand subbing Schumacker at that point in the game. Glaus still looked to be pressing and Kennedy was very unimpressive at the plate (lefty-lefty)! Overall what a perfect day at the ole ball park!!

Thanks for the highlight moments 15 and 27!!!

by cardzfanbub on Apr 7, 2008 9:14 AM EDT   0 recs

TLR got a lot of flak

in the real-time blog for yanking Barton for Schu, but I for one see it as reasonable, for reasons going beyond the "defensive replacement" rationale. Schumaker needs to get back to hitting, at least when there are right handers on the bump, and he won't do it sitting on the bench. Early in the season it's good to spread the playing time around a little, at least if it doesn't put the game in jeopardy.

That said, I'd really like to see Barton get a start against a right hander or two some time soon. This kid looks like he might be for real, and if he can hit righties, all sorts of entertaining options open up in terms of roster construction, trades, etc.

by StanTheManFan on Apr 7, 2008 9:29 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

In the minors last year Barton actually hit righties a little better

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Apr 7, 2008 9:59 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This is the great thing about this season so far...

Not only are the birds playing well, they are doing it with young guys that have "upside"/potential for improvement. Once Brendan Ryan is back most of the bench will be younger guys that I wouldn't mind seeing in the game.

In years past when we had a bench player come in for a regular it was usually a guy like So Taguchi, Aaron Miles, Eduardo Perez, etc. I appreciate So, and obviously Miles is still on the team, but the fact that we have these new young guys on the bench that are more exciting to watch is amazing. Makes the games much more fun when you get to find out how good these kids can really be.

by pete0713 on Apr 7, 2008 10:01 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I gave him some flak

and it was well-deserved in my opinion. Not only does Barton need some time in the OF and he needs to be able to evaluate him out there, but from a strategic standpoint, it was a blunder. He unnecessarily burned an OF when the team is already playing short-handed. One of our OF's isn't even healthy enough to run for himself once he reaches base and yet he's replacing a LF in the 6th inning? What if Ankiel or Ludwick had pulled a hamstring in the 7th?

The 6th just isn't a high-enough leverage situation to justify using a defensive replacement and, therefore, burning one of your bench players. If you want to pinch-hit Skip for Barton against the righty in the next AB, you could do it but if the Nats tie the game, you might need to use Skip to PH for the pitcher. You can't do that if you've already used him.

by houstoncardinal on Apr 7, 2008 10:03 AM EDT to parent up   1 recs

I have no problem giving Skippy the extra AB's..

but why put him in as a defensive replacement in the top of the inning? It all worked out well, but what if Lohse has a rough 6th? It's not like he was mowing them down...all three outs were flyballs and Zimmerman's went a ways. We were at the four spot in our lineup in the bottom of the sixth. If Washington scores in the top and we've got an opportunity in the bottom Lohse probably gets pulled and Skip wouldn't have been available.

Doesn't make any sense! Skip doesn't need practice in the OF, and didn't bat until the next inning.

Thanks for the highlight moments 15 and 27!!!

by cardzfanbub on Apr 7, 2008 10:49 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

TLR on Barton

"Baby steps defensively," said La Russa of his use of Barton. "Next time he gets out there, maybe he (goes) seven and by the middle of the season, he’s playing nine innings. I think he’s done very well."

http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/156B7C06928C4F888625742400145F77?OpenDocument

Looks like Tony's plan is just to easy him into the late innings. Right now he is making sure he gets his at bats against Left-handers. It has to be hard to Manage someone who hasnt played above double A ball who you can't send down.

by Evilfrog on Apr 7, 2008 1:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

remember

he tweaked his knee as well-maybe that plays a role. Who knows...Tony is frustrating, but one thing he does know is how to keep his personnel fresh and his bench happy.

by silent_bob on Apr 7, 2008 3:31 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It has to be hard to Manage someone who hasnt played above double A ball who you can't send down.

Right...remember OF Miguel Mejia? Another Rule V player the Cards drafted from Baltimore via Kansas City in 1995 for the '96 season. He was completely over matched and couldn't hit a lick. TLR was reduced to using him as a pinch runner and sometime defensive replacement. Somehow, he made it onto the post-season roster for both series. That probably would be the worst case I've seen of someone who was in the bigs but obviously didn't belong. Outside of Herb Washington on those '70's Oakland teams.

by tbell61 on Apr 7, 2008 5:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Re: Loshe settling in

I agree, I was at the game too, and spent the entire top of the fifth in line for concessions, with a perfect view of the pitch count meter (but nothing else). At the start of the fifth he was actually under 50% strikes, and I recalled him getting into a bunch of hitters' counts, then wriggling out of them. I remember thinking the same thing you did - "how is he doing this?" and "is this just a bad/impatient Nats lineup?"

But during that fifth, and for the rest of the way out, he threw almost all strikes and finished with a nice ratio. I don't know if it was the extra run of support, or maybe a coaching visit from Yadi or Dunc that I missed, but he really settled in.

He's obviously not going to be unhittable all season, but after this game I definitely think he's capable of becoming our Suppan v2.0. The question is, do we pay him Supps money to resign him?

"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz

by taiko on Apr 7, 2008 10:39 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

we also seemed to have

a very generous umpire. Lohse seemed to get a very favorable strike zone compared to the Nats pitchers.

I wasn't complaining, but it's worth noting. If he had gotten squeezed, the game could have gone very differently.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he'd drive down the street in his El Dorado

by SleepyCA on Apr 7, 2008 1:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

The Nats' announcers seemed to complain about that the entire broadcast.

"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~8-year-old Greg

by ChiTown CardFan on Apr 7, 2008 2:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ankiel's defense

I thought he had the athleticism for it. I saw him play 1 game at Round Rock last year and believed he could do it. He just needed more experience doing it. I did, however, notice some defensive metrics in the offseason that had Rick as very good in RF and very bad in CF during his time in St. Louis last season. They were very small sample sizes, no doubt, but it made me wonder if he would have had enough time in CF to be even average this season. I think he'll still make some mistakes out there, but he definitely has the tools to make it happen.

As for Lohse, LB, are you charting his pitches individually as we did last year or did you find that kind of info at fangraphs or somewhere else on the web. It's great info to have and, as importantly, great to see it put to use.

by houstoncardinal on Apr 7, 2008 9:59 AM EDT   0 recs

i'm using pitch Fx

which is faster and easier than charting pitches by hand. but you have to cross-ref it carefully ---- pitch FX does make some mistakes. the nice thing is that it records the break of each pitch numerically, which makes it very easy to distinguish similar-looking pitches. for example, izzy heaves one up there at 91 mph --- was that a standard fastball or a cutter? on pitch FX, the fastball is typically 92-93 and has break / pfx values of about 4" / 14"; the cutter is 89 to 90 and has break / pfx values of about 5" / 8".

likewise you can readily distinguish a sinker from a slider, or a weak slider from a changeup. if you're interested in seeing any data, let me know and i'll send you some graphs.

by lboros on Apr 7, 2008 10:36 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

are you getting it from gameday

or from the bornybits blog? did you do the #'s yourself based on what gameday told you? thanks.

by houstoncardinal on Apr 7, 2008 6:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ankiel, etc.

I've been very impressed by Rick's play in the outfield so far this year, too. There was a good discussion in a fanpost a day or two ago, entitled, "blasphemy, heresy, and excommunication." You should all check it out.

Personally, I'm hoping that, by the end of this year, we can look from left to right in our outfield and see Barton, Rasmus, and Ankiel starting everyday. Sorry, Ludwick, but you're just going to have to be the fourth guy, I think.

For whoever it was above who commented on the number of balls Lohse threw: It's true, he did run up some counts, and throw a lot of pitches out of the zone. However, I was watching on television, and the strike zone was very, very tight, and also a little inconsistent. Several time Mr. Lohse threw a pitch that looked to catch a nice portion of the plate, only to have it called a ball. Both pitchers were getting squeezed.

No Es Bueno!

by the red baron on Apr 7, 2008 10:39 AM EDT   0 recs

RB...

now that you mention it, I do recall thinking the zone looked a little tight...hard to tell from where I was. I could only see heighth and how the catcher framed it. Still a more patient lineup could've done some serious damage IMO.

Thanks for the highlight moments 15 and 27!!!

by cardzfanbub on Apr 7, 2008 10:43 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

not

if they were unsure of what blue was going to call a ball or strike. I have no doubt that both teams were hearing in the dugout or seeing it out on the field, that the strike zone was tight and inconsistent. to me, that would cause some hitters to not take the boderline pitches or start swinging at anything within a couple inches of norm.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 7, 2008 1:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

inconsistency...

wasn't the problem from what I could tell. It seemed to be a consistently tight strike zone for both starters.

Thanks for the highlight moments 15 and 27!!!

by cardzfanbub on Apr 7, 2008 1:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that's interesting

from watching the game I thought Lohse was given a couple of gifts.

It's really hard to tell with the new camera angle, though.

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he'd drive down the street in his El Dorado

by SleepyCA on Apr 7, 2008 1:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

can we please wait...

until ludwick's OPS falls below 1.000 to bench him?

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he'd drive down the street in his El Dorado

by SleepyCA on Apr 7, 2008 1:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey

I'm not benching him now. I said by the end of the year that's the grouping that I want to see. In that scenario, I think Luddy ends up the #4 guy. No shame in it; on a Tony LaRussa team, the fourth outfielder is still going to get 400 at bats.

Que sera.

by the red baron on Apr 7, 2008 2:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Biggest surprise to me

Is that what we have done against Lefties so far. I believe Barton and Ankiel have had the biggest impact against lefties.

13 Runs in 3 days doesnt seem like a whole lot. But compared to a 3 game period last year It is imporved.

by Evilfrog on Apr 7, 2008 10:47 AM EDT   0 recs

Not to mention...

the five runs we hung on Francis in the washed-out opener.

Thanks for the highlight moments 15 and 27!!!

by cardzfanbub on Apr 7, 2008 10:50 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Some folks bought the company line

For better or worse, I have to admit that I am one of those folks who actually bought what the front office was selling befroe the season, i.e. that Cards were going to be competitive this year. Although I am not as surprised as others, I am sure rejoicing as the rest. I agree with Larry that Dunc is probably doing something for Lohse. I know it's early, but I am sure glad that we brought back LaDunc.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Apr 7, 2008 10:58 AM EDT   0 recs

The road not traveled

this team has been praised for it's youthful exuberance and energy but youthfulness also has a downside. It's dealing with adversity. This team hasn't been out on the road yet. They haven't trailed in a game except for late in the second home opener and that was for 2 innings at the end of the game.

It's going to be tougher on the road (although not much in San Fransisco). The Astros are primed to get beat (no Berkman, no Oswalt) but the baby birds have to be careful not to get too down should they fall behind early in Game 1 of this roadtrip.

A 5-2 roadtrip would be a rousing success and would go a long way to legitimizing this early start. What boggles my mind is how well they are doing with Glaus and Pujols providing little if anything. I'm also impressed with how much better Glaus' defense has gotten in 6 games.

Go get 'em.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 7, 2008 11:16 AM EDT   0 recs

Pujols is walking at a Bondsian pace...he's doing something

Not to mention he went 6/17 with a couple of doubles. It's Glaus' lack of production that's surprising to wonder how it hasn't impacted us.

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Apr 7, 2008 11:30 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I didn't say he wasn't doing anything

but he has driven in 1 run and scored 1 run. That isn't a criticism. It isn't his fault, they aren't giving him anything to hit.

But neither he, nor Glaus have really provided anything offensively in terms of runs and we are still 5-1. That's impressive.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 7, 2008 11:36 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I know what you were saying, but it's really not him, he's doing everything he can possibly do short of HRs

If Glaus produces then Pujols has more runs.

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Apr 7, 2008 11:47 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Does Roy Hobbs move to cleanup?

to protect Albert? Have Ludwick/Duncan bat in the 2 hole.

by gocards62 on Apr 7, 2008 2:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hobbs for cleanup

Makes the most sense. Other teams obviously don't respect Glaus @ 4.

by jjray on Apr 7, 2008 2:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If they don't respect him, it'll be their mistake

Let's not write Glaus off just yet, after one week. When healthy, the guys been a solid baseball player for quite a while. he wasn't accidentally hitting a home run every five games off of AL East pitching the last couple of years.

I haven't heard much complaining about his defense after last night, finally.

"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams

by Valatan on Apr 7, 2008 3:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Depends how you define "adversity."

First, all these guys have played minor league ball. They have adversity there too. Secondly, of the "young guys," it would be fair to say that Lud, Ankiel, McClellan, Schumaker, Ryan and Barton have all dealt with personal adversity in their careers -- especially the first 3, who have overcome a hell of a lot to even be on the field.

All of those guys have dealt with more diffucult problems in their career than being down by 4 runs in the 7th, or weathering a 3-game team losing streak.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 7, 2008 11:37 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Of course they have

but that rarely has anything to do with winning baseball. Pirates core players have dealt with adversity the last 4 years and still can't ever get over 'the hump' when down early.

The team is flying high right now as success is feeding the monster. I'm just interested to see how they respond to some form of failure on the road. If they succeed in the face of that, we've got the real deal on our hands. If not, we've got the 2005 Baltimore Orioles on our hands.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 7, 2008 11:41 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Teams such as the Pirates

don't "get over the hump" when down early because they don't have much talent. I put a lot more weight on the fact that they objectively suck.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 7, 2008 12:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Playing a hard nine

Isn't adversity where the vets step in and show how it's done? This will be a good road test for the young guys to learn on and perhaps the vets can step it up a bit.

by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Apr 7, 2008 12:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I mentioned this last night

does anyone know what year/game this is from? The elbow sleeve has me believing 2001/2002 but I don't know.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 7, 2008 11:19 AM EDT   0 recs

Uni...

doesn't look like an STL uniform.. Also the high socks. Is it a minor league game?

Thanks for the highlight moments 15 and 27!!!

by cardzfanbub on Apr 7, 2008 11:44 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's a 1942 Throwback

you can see the Cardinals logo with the black bat on the chest, as well as the STL on the helmet. It's a throwback day at Busch, I can tell that.

Other than that, I have no idea.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 7, 2008 11:47 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Probably either a 42 or 44 throwback

This is the uniform

They won the series in 42 and 44, so this was probably honoring one of those years. The elbow pad makes it seem more than likely 2002 than 2004.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 7, 2008 11:51 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

your best clue is the advertisement

if i were you i'd try to figure out who "Majestic" is --- contact the marketing dept and ask what year(s) they had that sponsorship slot at old busch.

i googled "majestic st. louis" and found 2 possibilities ---

Majestic Management ---- http://majestic-management.com/, (314) 535-2220
Majestic Real Estate ----- http://www.4majestic.com/, (314) 878-6900

those might be the same company. there's also a majestic hotel, majestic restaurant, majestic manicure salon . . . .

by lboros on Apr 7, 2008 11:58 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

"Majestic"

makes the MLB uniforms... in you look closely, you can see their logo on the bottom of the sleeve of the current Cards' uniform. Marketing might know when the company had a sign at Busch II, but with the loss of Marty Hendin, I kinda doubt it.

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Apr 7, 2008 12:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Majestic

They are the sports apparel company that makes the Cardinal Uniforms.

"I just wish that the late Harry Caray were still around so I could hear him mispronounce 'Kosuke Fukudome' every fukun' night" -- Dennis Miller

by fourstick on Apr 7, 2008 12:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Rawlings

The Cards had Rawlings unis until 2003, when MLB signed a new agreement. If you look closely at the sleeve, you can see the Rawlings "R." Likewise, if you look at good ol' Looney Tavarez's sleeve, you see the Majestic logo.

by bgh on Apr 7, 2008 12:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Majestic Restaurant

Is owned by a good friend's family. He runs it at night, when it's a pretty fun bar.

by liam on Apr 7, 2008 3:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't recall...

the Cards actually having a '40's "retro" day (I Could Be Wrong warning)... could the pic be Photoshopped?

Classic unis, though...

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Apr 7, 2008 11:59 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I was there...

Well I was for one of them. It was in 04 vs the Royals, my grandfather was in town from NC. Hes been a die hard out of market fan for going on three decades now. It was his last game at the old Busch.

by PSKPSE on Apr 7, 2008 5:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Man

what a sweet-ass swing.

Keeping those hands and barrel of the bat back, wrists ready to explode.

Thing of beauty.

by silent_bob on Apr 7, 2008 11:59 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think he's about to get jammed actually

He's not really an extension guy but it seems like he's tried to gator arm this one. High and tight tough to hit.

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Apr 7, 2008 12:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

i was going to say it looks like he might've started his swing and is trying to check on a high-and-tight fastball

by Jhusk on Apr 7, 2008 3:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think it was a throwback game against Baltimore

Baltimore used to be the STL Browns and I think they made an interleague visit to Busch II in 2005.

by indakind on Apr 7, 2008 12:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I like this uniform.

Any chance we can get them to bring it back?

"Why does he keep saying that?"

by Red Blazer on Apr 7, 2008 12:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

YAHOO SPORTS COMES THROUGH

June 7, 2003 vs. the orioles.
Sidney Ponson threw a complete game against us

Jim Edmonds was thrown out of the game. J D Drew was thrown out at home..... All music played between innings was from the 40s.

Here's the deal, I'm the best there is, plain and simple, I mean I wake up every morning and I kiss excellence, and nobody can hang with my stuff, uh, you know I'm just a, just a big hairy American winning machine.....

by Schnake on Apr 7, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Excellent work

now I can go look for more photos.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 7, 2008 2:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

here is the spot for

Fantastic Pictures

Enjoy

Here's the deal, I'm the best there is, plain and simple, I mean I wake up every morning and I kiss excellence, and nobody can hang with my stuff, uh, you know I'm just a, just a big hairy American winning machine.....

by Schnake on Apr 7, 2008 2:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Here's the deal, I'm the best there is, plain and simple, I mean I wake up every morning and I kiss excellence, and nobody can hang with my stuff, uh, you know I'm just a, just a big hairy American winning machine.....

by Schnake on Apr 7, 2008 2:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm giddy with anticipation

I get to watch my first game of the season on TV tonight. About time.

For all my fellow Cards fans in Texas who don't buy a package, tonights game is on FSN SW 6pm start, get that DVR or VCR set. It's the only game in the series that they are showing which sucks to no end, so enjoy what we can.

LB, are you as happy as I am we kept banging that drum for Lohse?
I knew Duncan could do something with him.

"Do what you want to the women and children but leave me alone"- George Carlin

by That's a Winner on Apr 7, 2008 11:32 AM EDT   0 recs

Dave Duncan's influence?

LB, are you as happy as I am we kept banging that drum for Lohse?
I knew Duncan could do something with him.

Can Duncan take any credit for Lohse's early performance? He had a very short spring with us, and the only coaching up that I've heard is that Dunc wanted Lohse to throw his curveball more. It seems that Lohse just came in here and from his first simulated game has been throwing darts.

I ask not to denigrate Duncan, but to wonder what our ability to resign Lohse will be after this year. He's a Boras client, and our only argument for signing him for less than Boras dollars (i.e. 4 yr $40 mil) will be Lohse's specific comfort zone in working with Duncan, and playing in StL.

"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em w