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Brief summary -- Odalis blows and Yadi's slow.  Loop's been lucky and Slick Rick's hitting is just ducky!

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wow

thats so corny it has to be good

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:10 PM EDT reply actions  

no

it's fucking terrible, but still better than Odalis Perez!

by chuckb on Apr 4, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

touche sir

i just did want to say it myself

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't forget how much Dan Loves Ricky

Here's the deal, I'm the best there is, plain and simple, I mean I wake up every morning and I kiss excellence, and nobody can hang with my stuff, uh, you know I'm just a, just a big hairy American winning machine.....

by Schnake on Apr 4, 2008 10:11 PM EDT reply actions  

In a 5-1 game

couldn't we leave Barton in LF a couple more innings? He's not going to get better riding the pine and misplaying a fly ball isn't going to cost us the game at this point.

by chuckb on Apr 4, 2008 10:13 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed

lets get Barton another at bat and some fielding practice...if the game gets close, then take him out

by Matty I on Apr 4, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

if tony doesnt make moves

we wouldnt know he was there

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barton went 2-for-4 with no obvious mistakes

I don't mind ensuring that his first start remains a positive experience.

by azruavatar on Apr 4, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think it's two things ...

First: it improves the defense late in the game, never a bad thing ...

Second: it's a jesture to Skip ... let's see if he takes advantage of it and get's a freakin' hit ...

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 4, 2008 10:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm with you ...

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 4, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

i was just wondering that

should he come back out for the 7th?

he's at 94 pitches now according to CBS

by Matty I on Apr 4, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

In all honesty ...

they should probably lift him, this early in the season ... he's rolling though ... however, we have a good pen ...

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 4, 2008 10:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

we have used the bullpin alot though

i think we should milk as long as possible

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

With Chico, a lefty,

starting tomorrow, I'm hoping Crabman gets another start.

(Aside - anyone else going to Busch tomorrow?)

Well who the hell can see forever?

by Alxfritz on Apr 4, 2008 10:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice

no sellouts means I can buy nose bleed and hunt for empty rich people seats :) Never fails:)

by redbirddude on Apr 4, 2008 10:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bought tenth row bleachers

for tomorrows game on Wed. I'm loving people being off the bandwagon!

Well who the hell can see forever?

by Alxfritz on Apr 4, 2008 10:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

how are the ushers at the stadium

i live in florida and plan on making the pilgramage to my birthplace sometime soon

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pretty cool unless you buy standing room and try to stand on

opening day, I found an open seat 12 rows up from 3rd no prob

by redbirddude on Apr 4, 2008 10:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

My brother and I were kicked out of seats about 15 rows

behind home plate late in one game when there were a ton of empty seats, but most of the time they seem to leave you alone.

by BTown Birds fan on Apr 4, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

But that's directly behind home plate

i've never been asked to check for a ticket up the lines, i normally walk around for the first two and then grab a seat that's been empty

by redbirddude on Apr 4, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm not sure why it should matter that we were

behind home plate if there were so many empty seats; there was no way we were going to interfere with anyone who had tickets down there. (FWIW, we were a little ways down the 3rd base line, not directly behind home plate; but we were definitely closer to home than 3rd).

And we've gone down to roughly that same spot except on the first base side in extra innings and they've left us alone.

by BTown Birds fan on Apr 4, 2008 10:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Eh, whaddya gonna do?

Not like we really had a right to be there, but it was no skin off their nose. I'm always baffled when stuff like that happens. We ran into an usher who was a complete asshole at a game at RFK last summer, when the place was practically empty. As long as you're not making an ass of yourself or taking someone's seat, it seems like they'd want to show a little goodwill to their fans at no real cost.

by BTown Birds fan on Apr 4, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Has McClellan eclipsed

Springer in the pen? They both should be ready to go but, w/ a 4 run lead, it's not a high leverage situation. I'd have thought this was a good time for McClellan and, judging by the fact that Guzman just took Springer downtown, maybe I was right.

by chuckb on Apr 4, 2008 10:24 PM EDT reply actions  

A HR for Guzman...

really Springer? REALLY?

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 4, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

oh damn

lets keep control birds

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

save situation now... is franklin the eigth inning guy, or reyes tonight?

by adiueordie on Apr 4, 2008 10:25 PM EDT reply actions  

it won't be Reyes

it's still Franklin, without a doubt.

by chuckb on Apr 4, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Dudes, don't throw the ball back

This ain't Wriggley and the hometeam has won a world series or two in the last 100 years.

by cloistermaximus on Apr 4, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

That pissed me off enough to log on and post

And whats worse is the cheers that followed it. Btw, why don't they eject someone for throwing a ball on the field?

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Apr 4, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm pretty sure you do get ejected

Throwing ANYTHING on the field will get you tossed, and rightfully so.

by cloistermaximus on Apr 4, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

throwing a ball back is stupid.

by adiueordie on Apr 4, 2008 10:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

what is that chant going on?

by adiueordie on Apr 4, 2008 10:26 PM EDT reply actions  

Miles to go

Nice path to the ball. Miles ends up trying to do an over the head barehand catch

by ubeddie on Apr 4, 2008 10:28 PM EDT reply actions  

Did you see what Bobby Cox did last night?

He had his left hander, Resop pitch to one batter, then play LF for one batter, then go back to the mound to pitch to another lefty...never seen that done before...shocked Tony has never done that (that I know of)

by husker4cards on Apr 4, 2008 10:29 PM EDT reply actions  

WhiteyBall

Whitey Herzog did that with two relievers in the mid 80's. And I'm drawing a blank as to the names.

by ubeddie on Apr 4, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whitey

I believe the Cards used to do that in the 80s

by DisplacedCardsFan on Apr 4, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Whitey used to do it

w/ Worrell and Ken Dayley, although I think he used RF

by chuckb on Apr 4, 2008 10:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Before my time...

I became a die-hard Card, when I moved to STL at the end of the Torre era...thanks for the infp though...

by husker4cards on Apr 4, 2008 10:32 PM EDT up reply actions  

Correct

It was a righty/lefty/righty combo. Worrell pitched to the first man and retired him. Moved to right field for the lefty (not sure why....probably better substitution) while Dayley pitched, then returned to face the second righty. I remember it well.

by tinstl on Apr 4, 2008 10:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

looking back on it

Worrell goes to RF when Dayley comes in to face the lefty -- who's presumably more likely to hit it to right. That took some stones!

by chuckb on Apr 4, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Depending on who was

pitching (and, obviously) who was hitting, he'd use either side of the outfield with them if this memory of mine serves me right for once.

Well who the hell can see forever?

by Alxfritz on Apr 4, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

that is so effing cool

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Don't get your panties

into a twist boys, we're all right

by redbirddude on Apr 4, 2008 10:30 PM EDT reply actions  

With this camera angle

I can't tell what the strike zone is. I hate this angle. Espn tried it about 7 to 10 years ago and it flopped horribly. Why does FSN Midwest all of a sudden think it's a great idea?

The viewer is too far away from the action and everything looks low since the camera has to be positioned above the pitcher. Bad idea jeans.

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Apr 4, 2008 10:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree to a ridiculous degree

You see the pitcher's stuff SOOOOO much better and have a much better view of the strikezone. The "off to the side" angle doesn't let you see where the ball is relative to the plate at all you have to judge by where the catcher moves his glove I've hated it for so long.

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Apr 4, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

here comes little mac

get the job done

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Little Mac

Shall be known as Napoleon....

Or am I the only civil war buff here?

"If I managed the Cubs, I'd be an Alcoholic." - Whitey Herzog

by cyko42 on Apr 4, 2008 10:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Big K

Let's see what hometown has now... this could be VERY interesting

by redbirddude on Apr 4, 2008 10:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Tony must think

This kid has ice in his veins!!!

I love it!

I wish I could see this!

by husker4cards on Apr 4, 2008 10:36 PM EDT reply actions  

If this explodes

The sad thing won't be the bullpen failure, but the fact they didn't just completely destroy Perez when they had him on the ropes all night.

by cloistermaximus on Apr 4, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

To think this kid

will be the first to go down when a pitcher gets healthy. It's too bad

Here's the deal, I'm the best there is, plain and simple, I mean I wake up every morning and I kiss excellence, and nobody can hang with my stuff, uh, you know I'm just a, just a big hairy American winning machine.....

by Schnake on Apr 4, 2008 10:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Again

a good problem to have...we are having more and more of those.

by husker4cards on Apr 4, 2008 10:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

The Nats are a team

that are not to be taken lightly, they can put crooked numbers on the board pretty quick, I just hope this isn't one of those times.

by KYCards on Apr 4, 2008 10:38 PM EDT reply actions  

Those strike outs by Glaus

are looking bigger and bigger ....

by Timbo02 on Apr 4, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

Nice

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Apr 4, 2008 10:39 PM EDT reply actions  

SIT HIM DOWN

that just looks so good

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

got away w/ one there

he's lucky to get that one back.

by chuckb on Apr 4, 2008 10:40 PM EDT reply actions  

i agree

but when you sit fastball you tend to freeze

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

actually

im prob full of it, who cares

a K is a K

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

was that a breaking pitch that didn't break

or just a slop fastball

I thought it was the latter but I'm not sure.

by azruavatar on Apr 4, 2008 10:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

i thought it was a

hanging slider that just spun there in the zone

by chuckb on Apr 4, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah, hanging slider

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Geez

That had grand slam written all over it.. Lucky break Kerns didn't swing.

by cloistermaximus on Apr 4, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Atta Boy HOMETOWN!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 4, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

This kid

might NOT be sent down...it's obvious Tony and Dunc love him...and he is not disappointing.

(knock, knock, knock)

by husker4cards on Apr 4, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

he's got such good movement

4 pitches...... I've got a baseball crush. Dan does too.... he loves him some K-Mac

Here's the deal, I'm the best there is, plain and simple, I mean I wake up every morning and I kiss excellence, and nobody can hang with my stuff, uh, you know I'm just a, just a big hairy American winning machine.....

by Schnake on Apr 4, 2008 10:41 PM EDT reply actions  

man

i love his team

young guys getting the job done

so far

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

Unfortunately,

I have to agree with Al it's nice to see the kid pitch inside

by redbirddude on Apr 4, 2008 10:42 PM EDT reply actions  

this is nerve-wracking

by adiueordie on Apr 4, 2008 10:44 PM EDT reply actions  

oh boy

Glaus should have caught that

Here's the deal, I'm the best there is, plain and simple, I mean I wake up every morning and I kiss excellence, and nobody can hang with my stuff, uh, you know I'm just a, just a big hairy American winning machine.....

by Schnake on Apr 4, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

Exactly

like Barton's "hit" off Zimmerman earlier. Too bad our bases weren't loaded then.

by chuckb on Apr 4, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

So far, you're the only one.

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Apr 4, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

he could catch it

without any fingernails,

Here's the deal, I'm the best there is, plain and simple, I mean I wake up every morning and I kiss excellence, and nobody can hang with my stuff, uh, you know I'm just a, just a big hairy American winning machine.....

by Schnake on Apr 4, 2008 10:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

we're going to lose this game...

i know it's pessimistic, but I can feel it.

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 4, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

we still have the lead

we can get out of it with Loop having a chance at the W

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:45 PM EDT reply actions  

We're going to miss

Barton's bat late in this game...I hope Skip makes a play.

by husker4cards on Apr 4, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

Middle Relief

I hope our middle relief pitching isn't this shaky all season! YIKES!

by Don Denkinger SUX on Apr 4, 2008 10:47 PM EDT reply actions  

what a pitch

holey shit

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:48 PM EDT reply actions  

it was still terrible location

he's got good movement but if he doesn't get that slider down, he's going to get a lot of them hit hard!

by chuckb on Apr 4, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

yeah

but with the count what it was, and the bases full
thats is some confidence
i love it

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

ya think?

thought it had good movement down and in...

by Timbo02 on Apr 4, 2008 10:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

i peed a little. wicked pitch.

by adiueordie on Apr 4, 2008 10:49 PM EDT reply actions  

I Drank

A LOT.....
Between the Heart Pumping hard and the alcohol that situations like that make drink pretty sure the cardinals are going to kill me someday

"If I managed the Cubs, I'd be an Alcoholic." - Whitey Herzog

by cyko42 on Apr 4, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yadi

Hit him in the junk!!!

by redbirddude on Apr 4, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

How many runs did Looper get stuck with?

There goes the quality start...

"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert

by BigMOman on Apr 4, 2008 10:50 PM EDT reply actions  

1

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Apr 4, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

screw quality start

Lets get him a win

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

this inning's 3 runs

all went to Springer. Looper didn't begin the inning.

by chuckb on Apr 4, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

my bad

I was thinking it was blooper not springer that started the inning.

"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert

by BigMOman on Apr 4, 2008 10:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

those were all springers

looper had 1 ER

Here's the deal, I'm the best there is, plain and simple, I mean I wake up every morning and I kiss excellence, and nobody can hang with my stuff, uh, you know I'm just a, just a big hairy American winning machine.....

by Schnake on Apr 4, 2008 10:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

hell yea

thats huge

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Whew...

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 4, 2008 10:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah baby...

the kid does a GREAT JOB

by Timbo02 on Apr 4, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Whew!

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Apr 4, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

The mountains

do win again. I agree wholeheartedly.

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 4, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

don't get the commercials on mlb.tv... good thing, because that annoying song always gets stuck in my head when i hear it. and when i used to always listen to the games on the radio while delivering pizzas, the "i love the cardinals, my ford, and you" song would too.

by adiueordie on Apr 4, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

reply to one comment up. oops.

by adiueordie on Apr 4, 2008 10:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nothing makes me want to drink a Busch beer

like the thought of John Popper sucking one down...

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 4, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

and he deserves them all...

because he flat out sucked

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 4, 2008 10:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

Great work by McClellen

Shouldn't of walked LoDuca, but every thing else was gravy. That hit should've been an error

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 4, 2008 10:52 PM EDT reply actions  

K-Mac was leaving those

breaking pitches right over the heart of the plate. Nice results but I wasn't impressed with the movement on his slider or the location. Now the curveball I liked but I don't think that was a very good outing for him.

Of course, bringing him in with the bases loaded isn't going to exactly calm his nerves. . .

by azruavatar on Apr 4, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

i still

liked how he throw that slider for a strike on 3-2 with the bases loaded

a walk there would suck, and the hitter cant think breaking pitch there

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Pitch 8 was the slider

That's not where you want a slider.

by azruavatar on Apr 4, 2008 10:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yup

In on the hands on a lefty. Leave it over & down, all he's got to do is drop the barrel on it and your second baseman falls over like a bowling pin :-)

by random on Apr 4, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

those sliders were just spinning in the zone. He'll get away w/ some of those some of the time, but he'll also get 'em smashed. Sometimes it's better to be lucky than good.

by chuckb on Apr 4, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow!

That one has a sign on it saying "hit me"

by random on Apr 4, 2008 11:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was scary ...

I hope there's someone out there in the pen that can come in and get 1-2-3 ... can you say Randy Flores?

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 4, 2008 10:53 PM EDT reply actions  

That's not the first name

that comes to mind, no.

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 4, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well, way to go Franklin ...

but after what Randy did with the bases loaded the other night, I would have put him in ...

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 4, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan Franklin

will be pitching the 8th, unfortunately

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 4, 2008 10:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Franklin?

Then I'm off to find the whiskey. Need to steady my nerves after Hometown, anyway.

by random on Apr 4, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh seet jesus...

did he just say Franklin is getting ready in the pen..

by Timbo02 on Apr 4, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

he's our setup man

until TLR says otherwise, so better get used to it and by get used to it, i mean get the tums ready

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 4, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

or the Budweiser.....

n/t

"If I managed the Cubs, I'd be an Alcoholic." - Whitey Herzog

by cyko42 on Apr 4, 2008 10:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

I guess I do have some whiskey

Crown Royal
Or Iowa's Own Templeton Rye

"If I managed the Cubs, I'd be an Alcoholic." - Whitey Herzog

by cyko42 on Apr 4, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

im on busch light

watching my weight

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

busch light? isn't regular busch light enough?

by adiueordie on Apr 4, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

from here on out?...

we shoud just call ALL of those....Franklin's!..

by Timbo02 on Apr 4, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahah

that cracks me up
any time one must consume alcohol bc of a pitcher, he has to grab a franklin

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

I concur, I need a Franklin

by redbirddude on Apr 4, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

so if franklin does well

do we drink two franklins in celebraiont?

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

celebration

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 11:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Apparently

You've had a few franklins?

"If I managed the Cubs, I'd be an Alcoholic." - Whitey Herzog

by cyko42 on Apr 4, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

im a teacher, and spring break just started

hell yeah

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow thats late!

Ours is just now over and we were later than anyone around.

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Apr 4, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'm a college Student

and its a Friday....
Hell Yeah!!!

"If I managed the Cubs, I'd be an Alcoholic." - Whitey Herzog

by cyko42 on Apr 4, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

Am i the only one...

who is scared to death every time Ryan Franklin comes into a game anymore?

by TxCardFan on Apr 4, 2008 10:55 PM EDT reply actions  

tequila

where's my liquor stash

[/trying to fit in]

by azruavatar on Apr 4, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

trust me

if you are trying to fit in dont pick tequila

that is a HUGE mistake

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

oh

i hope they bring in ray king!

Here's the deal, I'm the best there is, plain and simple, I mean I wake up every morning and I kiss excellence, and nobody can hang with my stuff, uh, you know I'm just a, just a big hairy American winning machine.....

by Schnake on Apr 4, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

That first strike to Izturis

was a ball to LoDuca from McClellan...

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 4, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

ray king and great shape have never been used in the same sentence before. did i hear that right?

by adiueordie on Apr 4, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Round is a shape

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Apr 4, 2008 10:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

not a great one though.

by adiueordie on Apr 4, 2008 11:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Come on now...

It's early...he was awesome for us last year...not that I think he will be that good, but he won't be that bad. And if he is, we might have just seen his replacement.

by husker4cards on Apr 4, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

Unfortunately that's no comfort at all.

by TxCardFan on Apr 4, 2008 10:58 PM EDT reply actions  

strike zone

I'm watching on GameDay. Is the plate umps strike zone quite as crazy on tv as it looks on the net? I'm seeing a called strike to Izturis that's in the batter's box.

by tom s. on Apr 4, 2008 11:00 PM EDT reply actions  

Hard to tell

horrible camera angle.

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Apr 4, 2008 11:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Since you're buying...

make it Knob Creek...

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 4, 2008 11:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

he's throwing strikes. I'll give him that.

by TxCardFan on Apr 4, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

It's game 4 of 162

Chill out on Franklin. Up until 15 minutes ago, we would have been psyched to see Springer coming in. Two games does not a slump make.

by tom s. on Apr 4, 2008 11:03 PM EDT reply actions  

sounding

a little like yoda there

by TxCardFan on Apr 4, 2008 11:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can someone poor me two shots of springer?

I need a drink!

Here's the deal, I'm the best there is, plain and simple, I mean I wake up every morning and I kiss excellence, and nobody can hang with my stuff, uh, you know I'm just a, just a big hairy American winning machine.....

by Schnake on Apr 4, 2008 11:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nice catch, Jimmy!

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 4, 2008 11:04 PM EDT reply actions  

is it?

in the front of his mouth. I always stuff it in the side when I'm eaten seeds.

by azruavatar on Apr 4, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

seeds

I thought I saw him spit some seed shell out of his mouth. I have seen him before with something in his lip I think. He may dip

by ICbirdfan on Apr 4, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Geez Louise...

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 4, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

YES

time to drink two franklins!

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

My heart...

is in my chest.

You are SO lucky Ryan Franklin

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 4, 2008 11:05 PM EDT reply actions  

where else would it be?

by adiueordie on Apr 4, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

In his throat?

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 4, 2008 11:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahaha...

i'm retarded

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 4, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

Edmonds

He would not have caught that ball! he played so shallow he could not go back on balls worth crap last year.

by ICbirdfan on Apr 4, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

2004 edmonds would've

and he only would have needed one hand. Kids these days...

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he'd drive down the street in his El Dorado

by SleepyCA on Apr 5, 2008 12:02 AM EDT up reply actions  

Whew!

That sounded scary, but impressive.

by husker4cards on Apr 4, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

By the way...

Has there been a consensus on how to spell Ricky? Is it Ricky or Rickie?

Ricky Baseball has a nice ring to it.

Well who the hell can see forever?

by Alxfritz on Apr 4, 2008 11:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's right

Rick is too cool for an e.

Here's the deal, I'm the best there is, plain and simple, I mean I wake up every morning and I kiss excellence, and nobody can hang with my stuff, uh, you know I'm just a, just a big hairy American winning machine.....

by Schnake on Apr 4, 2008 11:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Y

More masculine than IE

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 4, 2008 11:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

RASMUS FOR RIGHT FIELD!!!!!

It happened on a Sunday afternoon, August 22, 1982.

by Glenn Brummer stole home on Apr 4, 2008 11:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Woodford Reserve

Does the trick for Franklin. 1-2-3 with Mr. Ankiel providing two nice plays!

by Don Denkinger SUX on Apr 4, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

What do you spose

Dan gets paid for mentioning the Bud Light sign?

by bobeans on Apr 4, 2008 11:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Same Shannon gets paid

For mentioning a tall frosty Buuuuuudweiser

by cloistermaximus on Apr 4, 2008 11:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

no, just breast enlargement supplements

by adiueordie on Apr 4, 2008 11:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

And a sweet football video

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Apr 4, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

VERY sweet football video. and some skills with a steak.

by adiueordie on Apr 4, 2008 11:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

Let's get some freakin' RUNS!!!

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 4, 2008 11:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Skip around the room...

Skip around the room...or fly out deep to right...

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 4, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

damn i thought that was gone

come on izzy

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

skip

thought he might of had it! I guess If zimmerman's did not make it his was not going to.

by ICbirdfan on Apr 4, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Dan Seemed so excited

about Skippy's long fly ball

"If I managed the Cubs, I'd be an Alcoholic." - Whitey Herzog

by cyko42 on Apr 4, 2008 11:12 PM EDT reply actions  

Over/Under on Izzy's walks?

What do you think?

"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert

by BigMOman on Apr 4, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

under

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Apr 4, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

over under at 2.5

there. now respond! haha... and I'm not even drinking...

"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert

by BigMOman on Apr 4, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heart of the order

3-4-5 hitters for the Nationals:
Johnson
Kearns
Lo Duca

by Don Denkinger SUX on Apr 4, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

You made me look!

I didn't think Lo Duca could be their #5...6th is bad enough!

by husker4cards on Apr 4, 2008 11:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

That might have gone out...

if it were 90 degrees and the wind blowing out...but on a cold, cold night, nope. Luckily for Franklin, otherwise he would given up 2 HRs

by DiscoJer on Apr 4, 2008 11:13 PM EDT reply actions  

Does anyone else...

find themselves hating Russell Martin? I know it's not his fault that he won the GG last year, but I still don't like him now.

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 4, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

I dislike the people

who gave it to him. Not Martin's fault.

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 4, 2008 11:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Tool

is back in vogue. Keep it.

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 4, 2008 11:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats one

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

that pitch was righteous (strike 2)

by adiueordie on Apr 4, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoa

That Knuckle curve was....wow..filthy

by cloistermaximus on Apr 4, 2008 11:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Izzy throws a perfect pitch...

but Kearns finds a gap

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 4, 2008 11:17 PM EDT reply actions  

well crap

why does he go away from the curve in those situations?

by TxCardFan on Apr 4, 2008 11:18 PM EDT reply actions  

They could be

on the cusp of winning their fourth straight game...

Way to go out on a limb with a prediction, Dan...

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 4, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

belliard

why would you hit loduca in front of belliard? shouldn't it be the other way round?

by tom s. on Apr 4, 2008 11:20 PM EDT reply actions  

I hate this camera angle

looked right down the middle

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Apr 4, 2008 11:21 PM EDT reply actions  

thinking is where we get in trouble

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 11:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

wha?

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Apr 4, 2008 11:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

a terrible joke

like most i make

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

maybe he is sponser is busch

bc he makes me drink more than normal sometimes

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 11:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

entertaining = 1-2-3. Someone needs to tell him that!

"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert

by BigMOman on Apr 4, 2008 11:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

and here we go....

the umpire screwed izzy, and now he's flustered

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 4, 2008 11:22 PM EDT reply actions  

obligatory izzy walk

NOW we get the double play

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on Apr 4, 2008 11:23 PM EDT reply actions  

This is already

Izzy's 3rd game in 4 days. He seems to be fighting it a little

by chuckb on Apr 4, 2008 11:24 PM EDT reply actions  

that was high

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

nice

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Apr 4, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

and that was pretty

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

One more

Blow three fast ones by this banjo hitter

by gocards62 on Apr 4, 2008 11:25 PM EDT reply actions  

Psych up, Al

And take your competitive spirit with you...

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 4, 2008 11:26 PM EDT reply actions  

wtf

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Apr 4, 2008 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

arrrgh

izzy is pressing...or shall i say "glaus"ing

by Fred Head on Apr 4, 2008 11:27 PM EDT reply actions  

OPEN UP THE FRANKLINS

thats a W

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

nice

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Apr 4, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

what are franklins?

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on Apr 4, 2008 11:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

See Previous comments....

But anytime a pitcher makes us drink.... that drink is now a Franklin....
That or 5 dollar bills but i'm sure he doesn't want to give us all 30 bucks

"If I managed the Cubs, I'd be an Alcoholic." - Whitey Herzog

by cyko42 on Apr 4, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

Makes sense...

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 4, 2008 11:28 PM EDT reply actions  

that may have been

his best pitch of the inning.

by chuckb on Apr 4, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

that's a winner!!

When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?

by RosevilleRedbird on Apr 4, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

I completely disagree

he called low strikes all night long -- sometimes shin high strikes. He never called one above the belt

by chuckb on Apr 4, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

i think

the low strike was inconsitant, like the outside corner

but me thinking has never worked out too well

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 11:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thats what we get for thinking

;D

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Apr 4, 2008 11:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

WOW

What a time for the low strike to be called....
THATS A WINNER!!!!

"If I managed the Cubs, I'd be an Alcoholic." - Whitey Herzog

by cyko42 on Apr 4, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

Jeebus

he didn't get the 2 obvious strikes on the last batters , but he gets the borderline one

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 4, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

From the side angle

it definately looked as if it crossed the plate above his front knee. With the high camera in center, everything looks low. Thats why those high pitches that were called balls got such a reaction on this board. They look down the middle from the high camera.

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Apr 4, 2008 11:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

look at Izzy

with the great reaction on the mound!!

by TxCardFan on Apr 4, 2008 11:29 PM EDT reply actions  

good for blooper

I'm glad the bullpen didn't ruin his W.

by tom s. on Apr 4, 2008 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

gameday audio

was 19 seconds behind on Izzy's strikeout!

Winner!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 4, 2008 11:30 PM EDT reply actions  

old reliable

adventurous Izzy. I love it.

by madding on Apr 4, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Later guys!

Thanks for busting my VEB game thread cherry!

by husker4cards on Apr 4, 2008 11:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Impressive opening homestand

thus far!!!! Let's keep it rolling!

by KYCards on Apr 4, 2008 11:34 PM EDT reply actions  

What an unbelievably great game ..

The umps were about to make me sick, though ... they called a lousy game ... Got Waino going tomorrow ... I like our chances for taking Game 2 ...

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 4, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Except for facing

the immortal, unknown, left-handed Matt Chico tomorrow...I like our chances too.

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 4, 2008 11:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

what a freaking great last pitch

nice job IZZY. love the emotion from the big guy too.

good win. check that, great win.

wow, almost 900 comments for a friday night game. this here site has done blowed up uh?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson

by gdm426 on Apr 4, 2008 11:35 PM EDT reply actions  

i thought izzy's stuff looked really good

some great movement

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 11:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Rockies only score 1 tonight

Micah Owings makes them his bitch. They've definitely begun the season in a slump.

by chuckb on Apr 4, 2008 11:37 PM EDT reply actions  

i love luck

i hope we face every team when they are in a slump

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 4, 2008 11:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

padres are wearing their stupid looking camouflage uniforms tonight

by adiueordie on Apr 4, 2008 11:40 PM EDT reply actions  

No disrespect intended,

but some of us really appreciate those jerseys and the fact that the San Diego Padres not only appreciatesthe military community in their town, but puts their money where their mouth is and lets the Marine Corps Recruit Depot get butt loads of tix together for injured recruits and lets any active duty military member in Petco for free. (At least they were a few years ago, hopefully it hasn't changed.)

I do wish they'd raffle the jerseys off after every game w/ proceeds going to the uso or likewise orgs, though.

Well who the hell can see forever?

by Alxfritz on Apr 4, 2008 11:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

Formerly Big Red (victim of the SBNation upgrade)

by Tackle Box on Apr 4, 2008 11:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Helping A Hero

I with you fellers.

I am active duty military (USCG) here in Houston, Tx. The Astros reach out pretty well to military folks here as well; offering all Active duty/Reserve/Retired military members half off tickets on all Sunday home games, anywhere in the stadium that you can find seats.

As for the subject, Helping A Hero is an organization that helps Soldiers and Salors that have been wounded in theater. I'd like to see more MLB teams get involved in organizations like those that have been mentioned.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 5, 2008 12:59 AM EDT up reply actions  

SAILOR!

i need to go to bed.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 5, 2008 1:15 AM EDT up reply actions  

Oh,

Salors need help, too!

Well who the hell can see forever?

by Alxfritz on Apr 5, 2008 1:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

Who here...

loves three game winning streaks?

I DO!

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 5, 2008 12:02 AM EDT reply actions  

The 'tenor' shall we say of the game thread

this year is much different from years past. Very interesting indeed.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 5, 2008 12:06 AM EDT reply actions  

agree

i find myself almost content to just watch it all unfold...

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he'd drive down the street in his El Dorado

by SleepyCA on Apr 5, 2008 12:08 AM EDT up reply actions  

May I ask for your opinion?

they seem a lot more optimistic --cautiously, generally -- then of the last few years to me.

Well who the hell can see forever?

by Alxfritz on Apr 5, 2008 12:18 AM EDT up reply actions  

Over the last year or so

the thought was that the window on this team was coming to a close. All that has changed. I think people are beginning to see that we have some serious talent on this team. Granted, some of it is raw, but it is a sign of good things to come nonetheless.

by TxCardFan on Apr 5, 2008 12:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Looper's comment about the 7th inning:

"I came inside and started doing my exercises, and screaming at the TV a little bit," Looper said. "Stuff like that."

http://sports.yahoo.com/mlb/recap;_ylt=AknPYdIq_VO0DaCKvee1lzI5nYcB?gid=280404124

by BTown Birds fan on Apr 5, 2008 12:52 AM EDT reply actions  

Izturis' error from yesterday didn't happen

This was also in the AP recap; not terribly important, but an interesting tidbit:

"Cardinals SS Cesar Izturis had his first error of the season erased. A replay showed Ryan Spilborghs’ slow bouncer up the middle in the first inning Thursday deflected off P Brad Thompson’s glove."

by BTown Birds fan on Apr 5, 2008 12:56 AM EDT reply actions  

So, if Izturis had followed Brad's touch

by throwing the ball into the Right CF corner, would there have still not been an error?

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 5, 2008 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

CF = OF

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 5, 2008 1:54 AM EDT up reply actions  

if you have to throw it into a corner

might as well be the Right CF corner, eh?

;)

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he'd drive down the street in his El Dorado

by SleepyCA on Apr 5, 2008 2:30 AM EDT up reply actions  

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