Game 3 Overflow
by the red baron on Apr 3, 2008 3:31 PM EDT
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Nice A-Rey!
Struck out the side!
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
Dear Dave Duncan,
Eat Me.
Love,
Anthony Reyes
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
ok
two overflows, then no overflows, nice work guys ;)
Really though, good work on taking care of the site with LB gone.
21 pitches
16 strikes, 5 balls, 3Ks
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
just thinking out loud...
what do you guys think of Reyes potentially being Izzy's replacement as closer if Perez doesn't quite develop like we all hope?
is it crazy talk?
agreed
but perhaps he could even increase the velocity because he wont be training for stamina anymore
Almost crazy
if Izzy took 21 pitches to get 3 outs.... we would all be talking trash. Let's see how it plays out.
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Apr 3, 2008 3:36 PM EDT up reply actions
I doubt that
Putting runners on base Izzy style worries me more than fouled off pitches.
if GameDay was right
all of his pitches but one was up in the zone. I'm not trying to rain on the parade, just want to be realistic.
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Apr 3, 2008 3:45 PM EDT up reply actions
You mean, where he normally pitches?
When he is effective.
Last year is was the low sinking stuff that got hammered. He, like Chris Young isn't effective low.
You are correct, sir!
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
I wouldn't be
3 k's is 3 k's. You don't have a better inning than that and to suggest that we'd be beating up on Izzy for taking 21 pitches to strikeout the side, w/o giving up any baserunners, is just silly.
by chuckb on Apr 3, 2008 4:53 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
I threw it out there a couple weeks ago
I don't think it's stupid at all. We need to see what Reyes can do and not be locked into the mindset that it's rotation or bust. If he can be a good reliever, let's find out.
Might be just yet,
but I'd be totally satisfied if he could just be another strong force in out bullpen. Franklin's been scary these past couple games, so for someone like Reyes to step it up is big.
On with the (good) youth movement!
Anthony Frickin Reyes!
Where have you been sir? He just plowed through Tulowitzki and Helton and made them look silly. For two years, I've felt one major issue with his delivery was the fact that he simply wasn't very physical on the mound (not aggressive with his body). Well, he was today. That was really impressive.
"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.
by redbirdnation8206 on Apr 3, 2008 3:34 PM EDT reply actions
Wind was blowing in...
added a little giddyup to his fastball. Wouldn't have struck 'em out if it weren't for that.
Congratulations, Reyes. Job well done.
Duncan:
"Obviously, we'll take the results, but Anthony really had trouble putting away Spillborghs after he had him with two strikes... Anthony needs to work on being more efficient--he can't expect too many 1-2-3 innings where he has to use 21 pitches..."
by salvomania on Apr 3, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
21 pitches...
21 pitches isn't great, but hey, I'll take that any day against those three hitters. Great job, Ironbill!
Isn't efficiency one of the things Duncan wanted Reyes to work on? Not that I think Duncan will give Reyes a hard time for the pitch count, but I'm wondering if that's one of the things Reyes is working on.
Before we get too excited...
Let's see how he does against 4-6: Holliday, Atkins and Hawpe.
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
Drat.
Ah, well. Great start to 08 for FlatHat. That's gotta make him (and Mo) feel pretty good.
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
They should call the Mets now.....
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
hey
anybody know the story behind the guy that just struck out the side?
by infallibleopiniongenerator on Apr 3, 2008 3:35 PM EDT reply actions
apparently he was once a promising starting pitching prospect
nowadays there is some minor disagreement about him in the blogging community.
It takes a special person to admit when they are wrong
Dave Duncan, the podium is ready.
Ok Skippy... you're starting. Now START HITTING!
from this game...
I don't see how I can disagree with Duncan that Thompson should be Starting instead of Reyes.
I'm talking about the whole
pitch to contact thing.
Ok Skippy... you're starting. Now START HITTING!
Then you are wrong
Pitching to contact is better over the long run for a STARTER I don't think Duncan has ever pushed it for a reliever.
Ryan Franklin is the setup man
there's no better example of Duncan's emphasis on ground-ball pitchers than that simple fact.
Was he changed to do that though?
I don't think Duncan made Franklin a ground ball pitcher, nor did they originally envision him as the set up man.
Using Peavy is like using Maddux to defend slow pitchers
For an average pitcher, pitching to contact is more efficient than trying to pitch to a strike out
No
pitching to miss bats is better than pitching to hit bats. Batters will get more hits and hit more homers and score more runs when putting their bats on the ball than when they swing and miss. It's not an aberration or some sort of fluke that 90% of the best pitchers in major league history struck out a lot of batters. You can't get hits and hit homers if you can't hit the ball.
What is most efficient is not walking people and getting people out. Giving up hits and runs increases the pitch count much faster than strikeouts do. Therefore, strikeouts are more efficient, and just plain better, than pitching to contact.
by chuckb on Apr 3, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
And it's more fun to watch......
Really, pitchers should pitch to their abilities...if they can miss bats, they should. If they have to pitch so the batter pounds it into the ground, they should, if they produce a lot of fly balls, well, you can't let the hitter square up on them. And make sure you have a good outfield.
Need I remind anyone that Johann does not pitch to contact. He's the first pitcher I'd add to my staff, fantasy or real team......
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
Lets not forget everyone's faviorite
pitch to contact guy "Maddux" is 11th ALL TIME in strikeouts...
Strikeouts are good
Groud balls are good.
Pitchers that can do both generally make a lot of $$$.
However, it makes no sense to have a pitcher that can only do one of those try to change to do the other. Espically when he has tried and failed at it.
Mr. Maddux is also a good example of pitching to his abilities.
You all know he CAN still get a strikeout when he needs one. I love him......he's fun because you know he can put any pitch exactly where he wants to.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
jill
this argument brings me back to our discussion the other day about eff-u pitchers
today, anthony was an EFF-U pitcher
Pujols is the greatest Cardinal in my lifetime.
Oh, I love them! Sorry I missed the game.
Yeah, when he is going good, he's got a little of the effu in him.
The Cueto kid in Cincinnatti K'd 10 in his debut.....I'm pretty sure he's that kind of pitcher.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
I took one of the most effective pitch to contact guys
against one of the most effective strikeout pitchers.
Set aside the inflammatory comparison if you want. You're making a pretty broad and lofty statement (one that I believe to be categorically false) and I'm asking you to support that claim. Can you?
arg
Ok, maybe the way I said it was a bit over the top but I believe in general that a pitcher that is able to get bad contact when he wants it will have just as much success and generally go longer into games as someone that pitches to strike out. The hardest part of trying to "defend" this claim is that I am not familiar with every pitching style of every pitcher so I can't just pick two off the top of my head that easily.
Remember though that one of Peavy's greatest flaws has been that he won't usually give you a CG even when he has his best stuff. Would you rather have a pitcher that consistently goes 7IP or one that usually goes 8+? If the only difference is a few hits and maybe 1ER and you have a good enough offense that I think I would rather have the starter that saves me from having to go to my Pen that often.
Even if pitching for a strike out is the way you prefer I don't see why people have a problem with trying to teach average pitches that some contact isn't bad and that getting a ground out is just as good as a K in most situations and better in others, while worse in only a few cases.
I will take wich ever one give "GOOD" innings
6ip, 1ER is worth more than 7ip, 3er in my book.
Almost no one usually goes 8+ these days. that would be 256+ innings for 32 starts.
I just want the pitchers to do whatever works for them to keep the other team from putting runs on the board. For thompson, thats ground balls. For Reyes thats strikeouts and popups.
Not ever pitcher is a clone.
A lot of that depends on how reliable your bullpen is
If you have a guy that only goes 5 1/3, then the Kelvim Jiminezes of the world are going to get a lot more innings. Then, they'll more than likely cough up those two runs in the intervening innings.
But, just to amuse myself, I looked at the top 40 guys who qualified for last year's ERA title. I took their IP/G, and gave them a rank order. There was very little correlation between where you showed up on the ERA hunt (at least amongst this top eschelon) and the final ERA.
But, it also seemed that the more strikeouts you accumulated ver the season, the fewer innings per start you managed to get in. Only Scott Kazmir was in the top ten in both IP/start and strikeouts, and he and John Smolts were the only two top ten K guys to crack the top twenty in IP/G.
"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams
You...
...Just completely butchered the pitch to contact philosophy. It doesn't mean you literally lob the ball over the plate and let someone hit it. It means that you attack the strike zone early in the count and get ahead of guys. If the guy swings, all he can do is hit a ground ball or pop up somewhere. Once you get to two strikes, you change focus a little bit, and you throw a more aggressive, strike-out pitch.
"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.
by redbirdnation8206 on Apr 3, 2008 3:44 PM EDT up reply actions
the issue, at least to me, is not Thompson ....
it is Looper ... we'll see how Braden pitches tomorrow ... that's the spot Anthony should have, IMHO ...
Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...
by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 3, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
What?
Loop proved his worth as a starter last year.
He just ran out of gas and needed a little break. I remember some gems he pitched. He should have won a few more games last year but the offense was so spotty.
"Why does he keep saying that?"
I believe the rain
was the contributing factor to Anthony's success. Helton and Tulo had water in their eyes and couldn't see the ball. I mean, look at Vizcaino out there...he was able to get Albert and Rick to swing at the first pitch.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
me too
but lets get izzy a save
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Apr 3, 2008 3:38 PM EDT up reply actions
good for reyes
Of course the two guys who won rotation spots ahead of him struck out 12 guys and gave up one run in 12.2 innings.
Reyes continued that as well. I'm not sure why people love ARey so much but dont feel the same about Thompson who is younger and been more productive in his career.
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Can we please...
Not beat this dead horse today. Both guys were great, let's just enjoy it.
It isn't Thompson
it is Wellemeyer and Looper that are blocking Reyes. The competition in the Spring was setup under false pretenses. Looper and Wellemeyer shouldn't have been guaranteed jobs.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 3, 2008 3:40 PM EDT up reply actions
The one upside
If all the people worried about his mechanics are right, we have a much better chance of him staying healthy in relief.
Also pitch counts dont much matter when you only need to go 1-3 innings
Magic 8 Ball...
...signs unclear. Try again later.
by glennrwordman on Apr 3, 2008 3:41 PM EDT up reply actions
according
to what? I mean, Thompson has been better as a major leaguer and arguably a minor leaguer. At the very least they are even. Yet Anthony is golden boy and Brad not.
I want to see them BOTH succeed.
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Of course we want both to succeed
To argue Thompson has more upside is plain foolish though. 6.48 k/9 vs 9.72 minor league, even the major league k-rates are vastly different.
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
i never
used the term upside. The term was talent. I'm not sure talent = upside. Does Reyes have more "upside" (NBA Draft term)? Maybe. But based on results one could argue Thompson has more talent. I like K's and all but it isn't the only tool to evaluate a player.
Thompson had really good minor league numbers and is younger than Reyes.
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Just turned on the game..
good to see the Cardinals are doing well. It appears that Thompson had a very good day.
It' kind of weird (although it's a rainy, day game) that no one is sitting behind home plate in the stands.
Cesar Izturis looks like Placido Polanco.
I wish we had a shortstop like Tulowitzki.
Polanco looks like he
took Ken Griffey's head tonic.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 3, 2008 3:42 PM EDT up reply actions
it's like there's a party in my mouth...
and everyone's invited!
and i told you to get rid of those sideburns!
Strawberry...
Catch some pine. This pitcher's a lefty and I want to play the percentages. Simpson, you're up.
I know of one person behind home plate
A friend of mine scored second row tickets... Free beer there.
Are you for real?
I may just have to try and mug someone and gank their 2nd row tickets. Free beer, I'm in!
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
sorry about that red
I put one up, went to the other thread to let everybody know and came back and saw yours. So I deleted mine and maybe you did too? Not sure but maybe when I deleted mine I also deleted yours, is that possible?
Nope.
You beat me by about a minute. I thought, "Well, his was up first, so I'll delete mine." I deleted it, flashed back to the home page, and they were both gone.
This computer hacking stuff is hard. Where's my tab?
No Es Bueno!
by the red baron on Apr 3, 2008 4:00 PM EDT up reply actions
I'm confused, too
Is this one of those crazy plays that Tony calls just to keep opposing teams on their toes, and when it works he looks like a genius? Or is it just dumb?
Bunting with 2 outs?
Whiskey Tango Foxtrot?
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
Rain
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 3, 2008 3:43 PM EDT up reply actions
He's called him that for years now
From listening to most games on the radio, I've found myself using Shannon's odd nicknames for the players. I don't think he ever called Edmonds by Jim, it was always Jimmy.
by thisgirllovesbaseball on Apr 3, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions
maybe mike means it as a question
Izzy man? Or Izzy not?
I could see Mike being that confused at this point. Very easily.
silly question
what does "n/m" mean.
"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert
No more
or, no mas
"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver
by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 3, 2008 3:46 PM EDT up reply actions
so
is it referring to jokes/joking about something? I'm confused
"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert
ahhh, I get it now
n/m
"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert
Skip
has walked three times and scored twice in three games as our leadoff hitter.
might want to mention the .214 OBP
though I like seeing him take walks. A lot of the guys this year seem to be more patient than expected- iz2, skip, ludwick, etc.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he'd drive down the street in his El Dorado
(and yes, I realize)
that is it ridiculous to point to a players OBP after 3 games and act like it means anything. But to think that his spring training stats mean anything is also incorrect. We know what kind of player he is, and it isn't "starting corner OF on a contending team".
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he'd drive down the street in his El Dorado
I hear you, Sleepy.
Again, I'm no "Skip Lover", but with our current personnel (esp. with Duncan out), and no clearly better alternatives, I just don't see the harm in trying to catch lightning in a bottle with Skip for a couple weeks.
Would I like to see what Barton can do? Hell yeah. But let Skip have more than 10 ab's before posters start gnashing their teeth about him being out there.
I don't think Skip is the hitter he was in the spring (he'd be the 2008 NL MVP if he was) but between what he showed in the spring, and batting .400 against ML pitching after July 1 last year, and no clearly better player he's taking time from, I just think he should be able to play more than a few games to see what he does before people start getting on his case.
If Tony is still running him out there every day in 3 weeks and he still has a .214 obp, then yes, that would be a problem.
It's as if people really think the Royals are going to outperform the Tigers in '08----it's three games, people, have some patience and let things play out a little.
This is not a knock on Glaus
but why is he out there right now? The man has a bad wheel chronically and the ground is soaking wet. Why didn't we double switch and put Rico there?
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
He hit 94 mph
they had the gun off for much of his pitches.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 3, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions
not trying to knock the guy....
not at all..but man...he just makes me a nervous wreck most of the time...
One down ...
2 more ...
Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...
Ok ... two down ...
one more ...
Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...
Absolutely ...
Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...
by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 3, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
+1
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Apr 3, 2008 3:52 PM EDT up reply actions
Nice.
I'll take 2.5 games out of 3 against the Rockies any time.
Bring on the world-beating Nationals!
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
And ... that's a wiener ...
We take 2 of 3 (really, 3 of 4) from a VERY good team ... what a great way to open the year ... way to go pitching staff!!!
Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...
SWEEP
at least it should've been
...just a bit outside....
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 3, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply actions
We have a winning record!
Gonna enjoy every second of it, hopefully all the way through to October!
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Apr 3, 2008 3:53 PM EDT reply actions
Sooooo
much better than the downer that was last year's opening series sweep by the Pond Scum.
And Hey--
...that's a series win again the NL Champs (no matter where they might fall this year, eventually). Couldn't realistically expect a better start.
Now time to stomp the powerhouse Nats.
Tomorrow could be ugly
with Looper starting.
Let's all enjoy this "winning" thing while it lasts.
Any predictions on Looper's line tomorrow? I say 4 IP, 7 H, 4 ER, 2 SO, 4 BB. I'm simply not optimistic.
There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.
They've got Perez going
so, bring your gloves to the park.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 3, 2008 3:58 PM EDT up reply actions
and they've used 5 pitchers so far tonight
and it's tied up in the 8th. lets hope this game goes to extras and they completely exhaust their bullpen.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he'd drive down the street in his El Dorado
Looper
6 IP, 8 hits, 3 ER, 2 BB, 3K
cards win 10-3
...just a bit outside....
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 3, 2008 3:59 PM EDT up reply actions
Starting pitching...
was amazing this series, and it's not like we were facing a weak hitting team, 1 through 6, they are pretty stacked.
...just a bit outside....
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 3, 2008 3:57 PM EDT reply actions
not to knock on cards pitching but
....I have a feeling the Rockies are starting a bit in a funk...wouldn't be surprised if they dont hit well in the next series either.
mattnj
i wish there was an eye rolling emoticon...
...just a bit outside....
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 3, 2008 4:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Time will tell
But maybe having Reyes come out of the pen, firing 92-94 for one inning, was the best thing all along.
Reyes Spells Relief
Maybe relief will be good for A-Rey. Because he does't need to worry about his pitch count as a reliever, maybe he'll feel more like he can pitch his game, which seems to call for a lot of pitches.
In most situations, a strike-out pitcher is a pretty useful thing to have in the pen. There seems to be a logic to it.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
Maybe he could become an effective Set-up man
if Franklin continues to struggle.
...just a bit outside....
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 3, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
tomorrows OF
and my pick for the everyday lineup...
Barton, Ankiel, Ludwick
agreed
though you need to find ABs for Duncan
But tomorrow against a lefty, I'd like to see Barton, Ludwick, Pujols, Glaus, Ankiel, Molina, Kennedy, Looper, Izturis
Dunc is out for a few weeks i believe
...just a bit outside....
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 3, 2008 4:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Hell of a game today.
Great game by Puppy Kicker today. Efficient, solid. Nice job, kid.
I really like Reyes's mechanics at the moment. Don't get me wrong, his arm action is still a train wreck, but the big leg kick and the aggressive drive toward the plate was much better than what we've seen recently. Beautiful.
I WANT MY SWEEP BACK!!!
No Es Bueno!
+1
Most important development today - solid starting pitching from Thompson when it was important not to strain the bullpen. Also nice to see, Glaus got a couple of hits; Reyes pitched very well in relief; and that Ankiel guy looks like he might stick around.
Maybe we could suspend the "Duncan hates/ has ruined/ was mean to/ Reyes " debate for a while to savor a series win over a good team.
seeing him at 92-94 on the gun
is a big step in the right direction. Last year, his fastball mostly hovered around 89. Getting it up to 93 or so will help him miss bats and will help his changeup immensely.
The 89 last year
was almost always the 2seam pitch which everyone knew he sucked at.
Funny how he does better throwing the pitch that "isn't suited for getting people out at this level".
off topic
I saw Braun in LF and I know it's early but boy he looks shaky. Does the NL Central have the worst LF defense in baseball?
Braun, Duncan, Dunn, Lee, Alfonso, Bay, I hear Barton is bad? don't know if it's arm or routes to balls.
LF is generally a poor fielding position
throughout all of baseball. It's where you stick a guy who hits well but can't field well.
...just a bit outside....
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 3, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
barton has a good glove and great range
but his arm is weak. Actually, I haven't decided if i think his arm is actually weak, or if he was just not getting into a position to throw properly, since he always seemed to be off-balance and hurried when he threw in-game. He seemed to have plenty of arm strength in long toss.
I didn't notice poor routes and he always seemed to get good jumps, much better than rasmus in getting the correct first step- rasmus is faster, though, which mitigates that somewhat. Barton would be well above average defensively in LF, imho.
Anyway, Soriano is pretty good and, well, yeah, the rest of those guys are pretty bad ;) But it's not that big of a deal- the NL East has Willingham, Wily Mo Pena, Moises Alou and Pat Burrell, after all...
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he'd drive down the street in his El Dorado
Saw some of that too.
He couldn't catch fly balls or grounders today. And he got Rookie of the year over Tulowitzki. A joke.
by vinniefromjersey on Apr 3, 2008 7:46 PM EDT up reply actions
I know that Duncan is our left fielder...
But we had some pretty damn good defense in left field today.
Jimmy steps in to lead off the bottom half of the inning... with nobody on base... It could happen... just not tonight.
help and vent
hope this isn't too far out of line, but i've been trying to find out why cards games are blacked out from my extra innings package in north florida. it appears this is related to some exclusivity rights granted the cards (and other teams) in this area. i would very much like to join the ranting masses and send selig an email, but haven't had much luck finding it. anyone have it?
thanks
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
call your cable co. or directv
I'm in Texas and I get them all except when they're playing the dreaded astros. You should be getting them -- maybe the Braves' or Marlins' games might be blacked out b/c they're covered by the regional carrier, but you should be getting the Cards vs the Rocks.
tried
tried my local carrier (cox) and they say they know nothing. games yesterday and today were blocked.
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
Something's wrong
I have Extra Innings from DirectTV and live in Colorado. The only games that are blacked out are when Fox or ESPN have exclusivity. The last three days I've had the Cardinals' telecast blocked, forcing me to watch the Rockies' telecast. But the GAME isn't blocked, nor are any other games. You just have to watch the local team's telecast if there is one. Keep pounding on your carrier, because this can't be right.
I've sometimes gotten a blackout message on the screen and when I call to complain the first operator I get, who generally knows nothing, always gives me a rigamarole about blackout rules. But when I've persisted they've checked and eventually admitted the game shouldn't be blocked and let it through. Sometimes they just screw up.
Agreed.
Yes, the same thing has happened to me. Notably, for Rick Ankiel's debut last August. The CS agent on the phone gave me the run-around about blackouts, but eventually enough people called and the game was put on.
"Love is the most important thing in the world, but baseball is pretty good too." ~8-year-old Greg
by ChiTown CardFan on Apr 3, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions
go to mlb tv's website
here is a link to the blackout regions by zipcode as used by mlb.com:
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/subscriptions/mlbtv.jsp#blackout
I get screwed in ohio whenever we play two of the division foes - reds and pirates. I was having fun entering random zipcodes of where I have lived or visited though. agreed though that the northern florida thing doesn't make any sense.
for anyone watching the cubs/crew
Somebody needs to tell prince fielder to NEVER pull his pants above his socks. It is probably the worst look I've ever seen, even worse than jeromy burnitz or jim thome.
Odd, 'cause I noticed
in the first game of the series (I live in Chicagoland, so I watch a lot of Cubs games at night) that a lot of the Brewers seem to wear pants that are 2 sizes 2 freaking long. They all had the bottoms of their pants bunched up around their shoes, including Fielder.
And now he's gone the other direction. hahah.
fashion
are you saying pantaloons are out?
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
back to black
just one more blackout comment. if this issue concerns you, check out the blackout map on wikipedia and be glad you don't live in iowa!!
If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!
I live In Iowa
I don't know why you would black out every Major League baseball game in a state. Seriously according to that map. I couldn't get a cubs, a cardinals, a Twins, a Royals or even a Brewers game on TV. Luckily except in very few instances I have never had a problem with blackouts excluding the MLB internet feed. I am enjoying having all the Sport networks on my satellite. Though its funny my roommate could never get the Red Sox games last year. You want to hear a stupid black out rule, Red Sox's blacked out in Iowa...
"If I managed the Cubs, I'd be an Alcoholic." - Whitey Herzog
thanks sportsman
i've been looking for something like this.
I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.
on 4 pitches
after cowardly intentionally walking utley and Howard to load 'em up. Pathetic.
So we should have the momentum tomorrow, at least... that loss has to hurt.
Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he'd drive down the street in his El Dorado
Let's not forget the weather...
It's pretty miserable out, which is usually pitcher's weather. So we shouldn't get too excited over how good the pitching is, nor too worried about the poor hitting of some players.
Though that said, I think it's somewhat silly to give Skippy the leadoff job unconditionally, based on one half of a good year and good spring training numbers. His minor league stats really do indicate he's probably best being a 4th outfielder. Barton should at least be in the mix.
Look at how many people think Duncan should be run out of town (little Duncan), and he's done far more than Skippy has.
Or better yet...
Call up Rasmus and give him the leadoff job. He proved more in ST than anyone else, with all those walks. And if the Cardinals have any sense, they'll extend him after one year with a deal like the Rockies gave Tutowhatski (if he hits, anyway), so the added playing making him elligible for Super-Two arbitration should be moot.
Amen
once we can bring up Rasmus without losing a year on his FA clock, we should do it.
...just a bit outside....
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 3, 2008 5:14 PM EDT up reply actions
No
It'd be Mather, as Mather can play 1B.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 3, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
comparied to our other option?
Of Barton. Who now has 2 Major league ABs and a good spring other his belt. I can see letting Skip get first crack at it for a few week or two. It's not like we are loaded with Leadoff types.
I would also love to see what Rasmus can do with it once he gets up here.
Cubs lose
if but for 1 day this season, the Cardinals are in 1st place.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by cdb on Apr 3, 2008 5:45 PM EDT up reply actions
WHATTTTTTTTTTTTTTT!!!
Does that mean people can't claim TLR wants to slit AR's throat!
Shit, what to talk about then?
Ha
"Wow! Three Times." Thanks for giving an accurate description of what happened Tony. Nice commentary.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 3, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Good to see that Gordo's ready
to hand the Cards the division championship b/c they won 2 out of 3 at home! Let's not pop the cork just yet, Gordo!
You abandoned reality when you listened to Gordo
You unlock this door with the key of imagination. Beyond it is another dimension - a dimension of sound, a dimension of sight, a dimension of mind. You're moving into a land of both shadow and substance, of things and ideas. You've just crossed over into Gordo's Zone
"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams
That is
an amazing description of Gordo's mind/zone.
agree
he is a bit pie-in-the-sky, but I am pretty pleased with the series right now as well. Did anyone predict that we would win two of three - and that both wins would come from sound pitching by Welly and SuperBrad? Lots to like about that series. My wife is a Rockies fan and I know I will be gloating this evening......
by cdb on Apr 3, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions
it was a good series, no question
but it's still just 3 games. I hope it's not our last 2 game winning streak or series win this year, though. The idea that "the Cards are gonna be better than everyone thought" based on 3 games at home is silly. Maybe we will be but it's WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAY too early to tell.
If the bullpen results are any indication, I'm a little worried though -- today's performance notwithstanding.
Nice...
Not sure they'll present many problems for us this year.
Go Cards!!!
by TenRingsAndCounting on Apr 3, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions
Their pitching is a disaster
Oswalt is a stud, of course, but after that it's dismal. Backe, he of the 4.62 career ERA, is their #2 starter right now.
Beyond that, I'm not even sure who's filling out their rotation. Sampson? Wandy?
Then again, this is probably what people are saying about our pitching this year.
Oswalt isn't missing bats
he didn't this spring and he struggled doing so in his first start. Should be interesting to see where he stands a month into the season. His little body might be finally wearing down.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 3, 2008 7:24 PM EDT up reply actions
Little body
IMO, he sure is fun to watch pitch. Sometimes, I'll go to games at Minute Maid if he's pitching, just because I like his agressivness toward the other lineup. I always thought he would've looked good in REAL red, not some crappy maroon/burnt orange mix.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Apr 4, 2008 4:15 AM EDT up reply actions
Albert v. O. Perez
.650 / .741 / 1.500. OPS 2.241. 5 HRs, 15 RBI w/ 7 walks. All in 27 PAs. Even by Albert's standards, these numbers are impressive.
I'm looking forward to tomorrow night's game!
Be afraid,
sCrubs and Brewskies, be VERY afraid! (Hope this isn't my only chance to say this.)
by vinniefromjersey on Apr 3, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions
Colby Rasmus laughs at AAA...
First game at AAA, 3-3 so far with a stolen base.
First pitch of the game he launched off the top of the wall.
...just a bit outside....
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 3, 2008 9:10 PM EDT reply actions
The people in Memphis
Need a reason to go to the games. We haven't given them much over the last years. They should have a great year this year.
no way Rasmus is down there all year
...just a bit outside....
by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 3, 2008 10:26 PM EDT up reply actions
One of my friends from college just scored a PR job with Memphis
I am begging him to send me a Colby Rasmus autograph, because hopefully that will be worth a whole lotta money on down the line.
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
reyes debate
when i saw the box score i literally was like way to go guy, but my thing with him is lets see tommorrow. he does this for a week or two of solidness(not striking out the side every time, but just quality outings) then i'd say be excited...
as for me right now its the same old "flash" of brilliance...yet encouraging none the least..
oh and i love how fans get excited or bummed after 3 games(sportscenter is terrible about this)
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
just got in..
damn, wow, nice...- three words describing tommy boys start today.. if thompson can run out there and sit down the defending NL champs.. makes me wonder if i should grab my glove again and start heading towards jupiter next spring..
good job baby face.. props..
In spite of...
...the overflow of pessimism, caution and doubt......Wow, Wow, Wow! Nice start, 159 to go!
"Anthony, you have everybody all stirred up again, I want you to cut that out....right now!" Anthony Reye's Mom
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