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Game 28 Open Thread: April 29, 2008

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Cincinnati @ St. Louis


Cueto Pineiro
1-2, 4.05 1-2, 5.29

remember the old cartoon show Johnny Quest? i guess cincinnati fans have already thought of that one regarding their rookie pitcher . . . .

not to be a nattering nabob, but cueto looks like the type of pitcher the cards don't hit --- think tim lincecum. actually, most teams don't hit pitchers like this: high strikeouts, low walk total, doesn't give up many hits. his only weakness so far has been a susceptibility to the gopher ball. . . .

i'll be out this evening; overflow thread is preprogrammed to kick in at about 7:45 p.m. CDT.

 

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Cesar Izturis

starting at short again tonight. Awesome.

by LukeMP1186 on Apr 29, 2008 7:07 PM EDT   0 recs

Nice...

Got a chuckle out of me at least…

by stlfan on Apr 29, 2008 7:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

At the Memphis Redbirds game vs. the Iowa Cubs Saturday night

After D’Angelo Jiminez got on base (and, after a few beers for me), I yelled, “DFA IZTURIS! CALL UP JIMINEZ!”

Then, after Hoffpuir whacked one to the track, even though it was caught, I yelled, “DFA MILES! CALL UP HOFF!”

It felt good to vent.

by bgh on Apr 29, 2008 7:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Cueto

Cueto is on my fantasy team and I really hope he hurts my fantasy team tonight…(gah, I hate saying that!) Go Cardinals!

by stlfan on Apr 29, 2008 7:08 PM EDT   0 recs

lol, I had one of those moments a week and a bit back.

Laid down a few bills on the Spurs to come back in game one at half. But I wanted Shaq to win, when Duncan was going for the 3 pointer I was like ‘Yes, No, Yess!”

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 29, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Lineups per the P-D

REDS

Patterson, CF
Keppinger, SS
Griffey Jr., RF
Phillips, 2B
Dunn, LF
Encarnacion, 3B
Votto, 1B
Bako, C
Cueto, P

CARDINALS

Schumaker, RF
Kennedy, 2B
Pujols, 1B
Ankiel, CF
Glaus, 3B
Duncan, LF
Molina, C
Pineiro, P
Izturis, SS

by LukeMP1186 on Apr 29, 2008 7:18 PM EDT   0 recs

That's one of the differences between Dusty and Tony

Dusty: Exact same lineup as last night

Tony: Experimented last night, experimenting again tonight

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by Mr Redbird on Apr 29, 2008 7:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Seems like

Tony experiments with the lineup every night.

by mikeonthecards on Apr 29, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that and...

a few hundred wins, 2 world series titles and I don’t want to count how many division titles

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

by showmejoe on Apr 29, 2008 7:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

gatdammit

I want some Barton action in the lineup

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 29, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Kennedy

in the two hole. Hmm….....

by mikeonthecards on Apr 29, 2008 7:18 PM EDT   0 recs

awesome

he should be there.

Tony uses the #2 hole to boost young hitters and hitters in slumps – Ankiel, Barton, Duncan, Edmonds, ...

However, what’s best for Albert is to have a low power contact hitter – one who most likely is on 1b when he is on. Albert is more likely to get pitches that way.

by enoscountry on Apr 29, 2008 7:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

not only that

but having duncan move down, as well as glaus puts some power down in the order

by from First to Third on Apr 29, 2008 7:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Kennedy needs a boost?

I’m happy with his .300 avg.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Apr 29, 2008 9:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Cueto

What kind of pitcher is he? Fastball power pitcher or finesse soft tosser?

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

by showmejoe on Apr 29, 2008 7:22 PM EDT   0 recs

Yeah

Finesse is the absolute opposite of Cueto. He’s got stuff and he’s not afraid to use it.

by TheBirds on Apr 29, 2008 7:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I agree.

I’m kind of intrigued by this lineup, with the exception of Izturis again.

by LukeMP1186 on Apr 29, 2008 7:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey, haven't seen this lineup yet.

Really not much to complain about I guess. I prefer Ryan over Izturis but w/e. Thankfully we’ve got our real leadoff hitter tonight.

This pitcher is one of the up-and-comers though so I hope we can get to him, or else it will be a long night. I like Piniero though so I think we’ve got a good shot.

by TheBirds on Apr 29, 2008 7:31 PM EDT   0 recs

Really interested about tonight's lineup

This could be a winner, even if we are facing a very talented young fireballer, the type of pitcher that has been our kryptonite this young season. (Not that we’ve been Supermen.)

by bgh on Apr 29, 2008 7:35 PM EDT   0 recs

Instead of Free Brian Barton

How about Jail Chris Duncan?
Or what about Trade Chris Duncan?
Then Again Bench Chris Duncan?

Any of those is fine. I can’t watch him stumble like a baby deer on ice out there in LF anymore and then NOT hit HRs.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 29, 2008 7:39 PM EDT   0 recs

Haha...

A baby deer, I like that.

by LukeMP1186 on Apr 29, 2008 7:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

is Chris Duncan

your new Skip Schumaker?

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by stltrav09 on Apr 29, 2008 7:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

how about:

Go chris duncan! Hit home runs!

?

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on Apr 29, 2008 7:42 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

lol

nice

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by stltrav09 on Apr 29, 2008 7:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Tilting at windmills?

I guess that’s an option too.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 29, 2008 8:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

“One man scorned and covered with scars still strove with his last ounce of courage to reach the unreachable stars; and the world was better for this.”

- Don Quixote (or, perhaps the ‘06 Cards?)

by bgh on Apr 29, 2008 8:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The homers will come

And we’ll be happy to watch him stumble. He missed Spring Training and is league average in zone rating. His power will even out, just like that of the Trojan Horse, and we’ll all be popping open Busweisers in celebration.

Patience, Hardcore.

by bgh on Apr 29, 2008 7:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Do you think we'd trade him though?

He’s not a solid trade chip with his questionable fielding and splits.

And considering that he’s our backup 1B’er should something happen to Albert (or Albert goes for surg early). Seems like we’re stuck with him, for better or worse

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 29, 2008 7:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not to mention

the Family Ties issue.

Billy Crystal is a tougher out than Izturis.

by tangledbrett on Apr 29, 2008 7:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I dunno

It gets more complicated when Rasmus comes up. Just imagine if Mather becomes a stud.

by TheBirds on Apr 29, 2008 7:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If I had to pick another OF to play 1st

Should Dunc be gone I’d think about Luddy. I don’t know if he has any experience, but imagine that line up.

Skip, Rick, Razzmatazz, and Luddy.

We’ll just move Albert over to 2nd post surg, let him get a All Star nomination there too.

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 29, 2008 8:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think he's a decent first baseman in the field...

and a prototypical AL DH. A team like the Twins would be an ideal trade partner. They have a decent middle infield prospect named Trevor Plouffe, and maybe a pitching prospect as well.

Trade Dunc for Plouffe and another guy, let Kennedy play out his contract in 2009, and then bring up Plouffe.

Just an idea.

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"I could've sworn it was Heaven."

by MilCardFan on Apr 29, 2008 8:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Im all about....

dealing Duncan. Best to send him to an AL team. I like the idea of dealing to the Twins.

by poohrat on Apr 29, 2008 8:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

For the record I would just like to say that

I really like tonight’s lineup. Duncan should be a 6 hitter. And while Yadi has made improvements as a hitter the past few years, he should never hit higher than 7th.

The only thing that would make it better is Ryan at SS batting 9th.

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by stltrav09 on Apr 29, 2008 7:41 PM EDT   0 recs

Here, here!

Why is Izturis on our roster?

by bgh on Apr 29, 2008 7:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That is the question I have been pondering for months.

START RYAN

Billy Crystal is a tougher out than Izturis.

by tangledbrett on Apr 29, 2008 7:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

While I am venting on my pet issue,

I would much rather have seen the us take a chance on trading for a guy like Clint Barmes to play short than sign Iz-2. This will continue to frustrate me. Venting session over.

Lets get a win tonight.

Billy Crystal is a tougher out than Izturis.

by tangledbrett on Apr 29, 2008 7:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

cuz of his defense

which doesn’t explain why Duncan gets to start so often

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 29, 2008 8:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

How about

Ryan at SS batting 2nd, and Kennedy batting 9th?

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by Mr Redbird on Apr 29, 2008 7:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

even better

didn’t think about that.

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by stltrav09 on Apr 29, 2008 7:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Must admit

I’d like to have Molina in 6th.

If I’m listening to the game instead of watching all I can imagine coming on the radio should Molina be on first with a pitcher up to bat.

“Pitcher hits a groundball to first, Molina belly flopping to second.. is out, and the throw to first… out”

With Duncan up to bat at least we’re in a situation where Molina is less likely to be out should he get on.

Just some ramblings.

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 29, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Let's play over/under!

Pineiro IP 5.0
Pineiro ER 2.5
Pineiro Ks 3.5
Pineiro BBs 2.0

Pujols Hits 1.5
Pujols HRs 0.5

Team LOB 8.5
Team BBs 4.5

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by Mr Redbird on Apr 29, 2008 7:46 PM EDT   0 recs

Over/Under

Over 5 IP
Over 2.5 ER
Over 3.5 Ks
Even BBs

Pujols over 1.5 hits
Under HRs

Team under LOB (b/c we won’t have that many baserunners)
Under BBs

by bgh on Apr 29, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Good point on the LOB

Forgot about Cueto, just thinking about recent LOB history, lol

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by Mr Redbird on Apr 29, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Let's go

Over
Over
Over
Under

Under (Walks)
Under

Under (Can’t I dream?)
Under

by LukeMP1186 on Apr 29, 2008 7:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm changing

the walks to a push.

by LukeMP1186 on Apr 29, 2008 7:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

cool

over
over
I have no idea to be honest, don’t feel like looking for his K/9.
Againa, too lazy to look up.

Over
Over

Over
I don’t know, would have to look at Cueto’s BB/9.

by TheBirds on Apr 29, 2008 7:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

With our 7-2

DP’s o/u 2 .. over :(

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 29, 2008 7:57 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sheets vs. Marquis

tonight in the other game to watch.

by mikeonthecards on Apr 29, 2008 7:57 PM EDT   0 recs

Yeah!

One will leave in the 3rd with some sort of strain! The other is just awful! Brewers! Cubs! Next on WGN!

by LukeMP1186 on Apr 29, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ooooh yeah

Go Sheets!

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by Mr Redbird on Apr 29, 2008 8:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

Cards have a chance to share first place again

by mikeonthecards on Apr 29, 2008 8:03 PM EDT   0 recs

One promising thing

When we lose the first game of a 3 game series, we’ve won out the other two this year.

Go Cards!

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 29, 2008 8:04 PM EDT   0 recs

yeah that was funny....

shared it with a couple of people here in H-Town

by poohrat on Apr 29, 2008 8:16 PM EDT   0 recs

Edmonds would have caught that

even at 65 years old, he plays shallow enough to get that one.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 29, 2008 8:16 PM EDT   0 recs

With his batting line

could you imagine? Iz gets a hard time.. but ol’e Jimmy is south of those numbers. This blog would be lit up

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 29, 2008 8:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Is there a tornado in Busch ?

That wind is soooo loud.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 29, 2008 8:17 PM EDT   0 recs

I finally splurged for some gameday audio

now I’m 3 dimensional (audio, mlb gameday, and vivaelbirdos)

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 29, 2008 8:17 PM EDT   0 recs

MLB ticket on DirecTV...

can’t live w/o it. When I was looking for apartments the first question I would ask Can I have dish? No? sorry can’t live here

by poohrat on Apr 29, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I have directv

But aren’t there a lot of blackouts for MLB season pass?

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 29, 2008 8:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

only on saturday....

They even give you the option to what cities broadcast you want to listen to. So when Hrobasky gets on my nerves I’ll pop over and watch the Reds feed for a while.

by poohrat on Apr 29, 2008 8:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Mostly

just Sundays, and Saturday if they’re playing an afternoon game, and not on Fox, of course.

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 29, 2008 8:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Cards broadcast is usually

blacked out on Sundays for those not in STL, but you can usually get the other team’s broadcast.

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 29, 2008 8:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Mike Shannon

just scared the crap outta me with that griffey foul ball

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 29, 2008 8:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Gosh

the pitch out was just dumb.

by TheBirds on Apr 29, 2008 8:19 PM EDT   0 recs

TLR trying to out-think Dusty

All he did was psyche himself out.

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by Mr Redbird on Apr 29, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Over/Under

Nomber of Mmm’s said by Dan tonight 6.5

by TheBirds on Apr 29, 2008 8:21 PM EDT   0 recs

time for some enchiladas with mole sauce

that should stop the reds

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 29, 2008 8:23 PM EDT   0 recs

damn

it worked

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 29, 2008 8:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs