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Game 25 Open Thread- The Hangover

 
                                           Oswalt_medium             Wainwright_medium
                                             Roy Oswalt          Adam Wainwright

                                               2-3, 6.00                    2-1, 2.75

 

 

Okay, everybody.  Gather round, gather round, now.  Don't be shy.

Show of hands: who didn't see that coming? 

A friend of mine scored last minute tickets to the game from his father, a season ticket holder, who didn't want to go and brave the elements.  And so I found myself at the stadium last night, as Friday turned into Saturday, watching as the Cardinals let yet another one get away.  Not a single person in that stadium, all fifty or so of us left, I think, was at all surprised by the ending.  You could feel it coming, as the Cardinals let the Astros continue to hang around, never scoring the big blow to put the game away, until the Houston bats finally found a way to break through.  Chacon threw 55 pitches, I believe, through the first two innings.  Imagine my surprise, then, when I looked up at the end of the sixth and saw him somehow, someway, still on the mound, and not yet at a hundred.

This is beginning to be one of the more confounding teams I can recall, at least in certain ways.  They continue to put absurd numbers of baserunners on; they continue to strand pretty much every one of them.  Eleven more left on base last night, with the bases left loaded twice early in the game.  I have to wonder a bit if Troy Glaus's eyes were bothering him during his at bats, or if he simply heard the smattering of boos after his second K with the sacks jammed and left the game before he broke baseball's most sacred rule, the one about no crying.  I feel bad for Glaus; he's been very good lately, yet he doesn't seem to have managed to build up any sort of good will cache.  The natives are restless, and a lot of the ire seems to be directed toward Santa.  Not saying it's right, just reporting the mood of the crowd.

Of course, with a two hour rain delay before the game, I doubt I need to tell you what we did to pass the time.  Luckily, I had brought an umbrella, so we were only cold while wandering downtown, drinking and waiting for the game to begin, rather than cold and soaked.  

Izzy is really beginning to worry me, because it doesn't look like there's anything really all that wrong with him.  He was throwing the ball hard last night, with at least one 95 on the stadium gun that I saw.  He doesn't look hobbled, like he did so often in the 2006 campaign; he just isn't getting the job done lately.  It's unfortunate, because this team doesn't have the margin for error to make up for the closer to try and work through his issues on the field. 

More than that, though, this offense needs a shot in the arm.  I have no idea where it's going to come from, unfortunately, because there aren't really any deals to be made this time of year.  I can't imagine a team really looking to move any sort of run producer this early; no one's even really close to being out of it yet.  So what's the answer?  Do we rehash the lineup discussions again?  Does the team need to start being more aggressive at the plate, rather than looking to get on base?  That doesn't seem to be a good idea to me; everything I know about the game suggests that more baserunners should equal more runs.  I wonder about it a bit, though.  Is this team too patient?  Personally, I don't think so, but I'm curious to hear what anyone else has to say on the matter. 

The offense's job doesn't get any easier today, with Roy Oswalt on the hill for Houston.  One of our longtime nemeses, I would love nothing more than to hang about six runs in three innings on Roy, but I don't see it happening.  Oswalt struggled mightily in his first three starts of the season, as his breaking ball was nowhere to be found, but he has since righted the ship, much to our collective dismay.  I'm hoping to see a little different look in the batting order today; maybe a little shakeup is just what the team needs to get it going.  Then again, maybe not.  But it certainly can't get much worse than five walks in the first two innings, against Shawn @$&!*$ Chacon, and pushing across two- count 'em- two runs.  You may want to throw a shutout today, Adam, to try and avoid another loss on your record. 

Enough spleen.  I'm going to try and find some way to get rid of this headache.  At the very least, I would like to cure the current one before incurring another.  Happy Saturday, folks.  Enjoy the game.

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Izzy scares me.

How has Perez been pitching this year?

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 11:00 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Perez

So far 8.2 innings, 9K’s, 2BB’s, and one dinger. So far his control is much better than last year, but I’m fully prepared for some Mitch Williams moments when he eventually gets the call.

by mikedallas45 on Apr 26, 2008 12:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You know, sometimes pitchers that throw hard and wild can be quite effective.....

Think of the batter-is he going to dig in if he thinks he might get bonked on the chin? You can survive walks if you can miss bats and limit the homeruns. The worry for me would be entering the game with runners on base. Looks like he’s improved on the BB’s this year anyway.

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on Apr 26, 2008 12:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh sure

I think he’ll be pretty effective (and maybe have better control eventually than the original Wild Thing) but when he does have the occasional control meltdown he’s going to make people a little crazy around here.

by mikedallas45 on Apr 26, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Its not uncommon...

...in the world of sports to come across a feel-good team that plays with energy and enthusiasm but just doesn’t have the talent to consistently win. The Cards have been overachievers so far. That’s probably not news to anyone. But, then again, I get the impression by a lot on this sight that the Cards are UNDERachieving so far.

The last fews years we’ve kept thinking, hearing, and saying ourselves, “When all the pistons start firing at once…” or “when they all start hitting at the same time.” But, when has that happened? We do have some talented guys, and we do have players with higher ceilings than are currently being realized. But we shouldn’t expect them to all miraculously turn it on at the same time. And since they probably won’t, we’ll have to settle for a flawed team that plays hard and comes up oh so short too often for our liking.

But, hey, I’m still optimistic. I’m just a fan, and I listen (yeah, no TV coverage for me) to every game thinking that the Cards will somehow pull it out. Isn’t that part of the game’s greatness?

by 82Special on Apr 26, 2008 11:02 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

No doubt.

Im not going to stop watching/listening to the games. It’s not like we are 4 games under .500.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

"when they all start hitting at the same time." But, when has that happened?

August 2004.

Man that was a fun time. You could see the fear on pitchers faces when they took the mound against us.

Ah. Memories

by Harknights on Apr 26, 2008 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You're right.

I remember some times in 2005, too. I meant to say when has that happened in the last couple of years.

by 82Special on Apr 26, 2008 11:10 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

And you've actually made my point

We have to go back quite awhile to remember the thing that we expect to happen every night.

by 82Special on Apr 26, 2008 11:11 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Quality

That’s the problem. When batters (Albert included) do swing they are either picking bad pitches or getting bad swings on them. I love Albert and all but when a pitcher starts the game off by walking the first two batters and isn’t even close to the zone how do you take the bat of your shoulder? Come on Albert you are a great two strike hitter and in the first you should have waited for two strikes. In the ninth, what was Skip swinging at? Well it’s a good thing he did swing the ball might have hit him if he didn’t….and so on a so forth. Really, how many hard hit balls did the Cards have last night?

I just don’t get it. How can a team be so good at taking the walks when they are given to them but get such bad swings on the balls they swing at them?

by Harknights on Apr 26, 2008 11:07 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Skip

Was just trying to get a high ball into the outflied to put the runner on third.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ever play golf?

I have, and I stink.

But that doesn’t mean I won’t try to hit a cut or a fade every now and then. Why? Because the situation calls for it. The problem is, when I try to do more than my talent allows, I end up in more trouble. It seems to me that a lot of our guys are trying to do more than their talent allows right now. Instead of trying to be so strategic and mechanical, you sometimes just need to stick with the basics.

Too much emphasis on situational hitting can cripple players who aren’t magicians with the stick. Not everybody’s a Wade Boggs or Tony Gwinn.

by 82Special on Apr 26, 2008 11:15 AM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ankiel Glaus Duncan

Ankiel will be a great ball player…..If he is not over stressed. The clean-up expectations have him trying to produce “power” over game situation and reason. He is not the same player as he was three weeks ago. He is chasing everything, guessing and pressing. If it wasn’t for the power displays and age, he is playing more like a AA ballplayer as a 19 year old.
Your seeing the “Troy Glaus” of recent years. He came in a salary exchange. The league and scouts already have his number. ........Duncan is hard to figure…..one minute he is stoking the middle, swinging at reasonable pitches. The next he is choking at batting behind Pujol…...he may be “mental”............these teams seem willing to pitch around two hitters at a time to get to Troy…...which is why Duncan walked so much in the last two games. Albert is suffering his reputation.

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on Apr 26, 2008 11:32 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

It is said...

that more of what gave you the first headache will cure it… (or one just may get too drunk to care; been a l-o-n-g time since I’ve had occasion to try!)

This recent funk can be laid at the “lack of a timely hit” concern; All closers occasionally “blow up”. Izzy’s save percentage is 86% for his career, 87% since coming to the Cardinals in 2002… Mariano Rivera, generally considered the “gold standard” of closers, has a 90% successful ratio since MLB started keeping track of save opportunities in 1999. (He had 84 saves prior to that.)

Other notables:

Eric Gagne 93% (but only 31 of 39 total - 79% - from 2005 on!)
Trevor Hoffman 79% (He racked up 188 saves prior to 1999, so I dunno how many “blown saves” he had in that period.)
Joe Nathan 90%
Billy Wagner 88% (62 saves prior to 1999)
Francisco “K-Rod” Rodriguez 86%
Brad Lidge 83%
Chad Cordero (Nats) 84%
Francisco Cordero (now with the Reds) 83%

Izzy’s been pretty damn good at a position that generally has a short “shelf life”... Yeah, he got belted last night, but it wouldn’t surprise me at all if he’s out there again today, and shuts ‘em down!

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Apr 26, 2008 11:54 AM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Frustrating...

is what I experienced as I stayed up late to watch the game. Didn’t I see Izzy carve up the first guy? Didn’t I see Izzy go up 1-2 on the second guy, only for a harmless ground ball that our back-up third baseman, (Aaron Freaking Miles??), wave at, resulting in a single? That is what I saw. Then the wheels came off. My question, is 1) why is AM still on this team- as his only real defensive postion is second base. 2) Why isn’t our weak hitting shortstop on the DL? 3) Why does the smartest manager in baseball continue to put this team in a hole- by not bringing up healthy players- even for a short time period, rather than keeping a player on the roster that isn’t able to play? Argggggggggg. My head hurts…and I really don’t want to watch Oswalt continue his dominance over us today- thank God I can watch the Rams pick the wrong guy! (Maybe I will play golf)!

by gman79100 on Apr 26, 2008 12:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no cuts or fades, remember

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Daryl Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms!

by 82Special on Apr 26, 2008 12:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

LOL

Chris Duncan sent Oswalt an invoice after he broke three bats against him in one game last year.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 12:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ok, that's pretty funny

I needed that after that craptastic loss against the ‘stros last night.

by cloistermaximus on Apr 26, 2008 12:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Am I the only one

that think we can give Oswalt a run for his money today? This team, in some cases more than others out of the past ten years, excites me to no end. I look forward to each game more, and I really like the group of guys we have, even though they can piss ya off in a hurry.

Izzy is well, Izzy. He’s probably being used too much this early as been stated a few times. The problem with last night is that we should have never been in a save situation to begin with.

How many times have we had a starting pitcher above 50 pitches after two innings only to see them get an effective outing when it’s all said and done? I would hazard to guess that it has happened more than not. When we go back for our second round against the pitcher we’re not making him continue to work. And if we are, we’re not putting enough runs to chase him out.

Being the first game in the series, it also has series implications as well as now they have a rested relief core for the rest of the series. It’s frustrating.

I can’t wait for Izzy to get his 300th save. I feel he’s probably the most underrated closer in the past decade or so. Even though he’s going to give me an ulcer I love the guy, but I don’t want him to try for th 300th by mid May, I’m happy with July.

Rick needs to get back to hitting for contact rather than swinging for power. The more contact he has, the better his power will follow. Right now he’s swinging through pitches instead of looking for pitches to make contact with.

Glaus’ numbers really don’t look bad at all once you remove the home night games, which leads to if there is a problem in that situation, we need to remedy it. Of course finding anything out from the black box isn’t going to be easy. And I’ll still contend that the past 2-3 years at least, if not longer our biggest liability is the medical staff we’ve had.

Here’s hoping to Glaus using the next couple of day games to put some decent performances up. His defense has been a reasonable suprise, now only if his numbers can average up to match.

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 26, 2008 12:46 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Naw you're not the only one.

I always manage to talk myself into the Cardinals scoring 10 runs and our Starter shutting out the other team.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 12:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

+1

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Daryl Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms!

by 82Special on Apr 26, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

the offense is sort of reminding me of the last couple years. it can be anemic, but then when everything starts clicking, they score 8 runs easily and could score a lot more. how are we going to start getting those clutch hits?

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

line-up

According to gameday.

Skippy – RF
Ankiel – CF
Albert – where ever he feels like
Duncan – LF
Gluas – 3B
Kennedy – 2B
LaRue – C
Wainwright – P
Ryan – SS

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 12:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

situational hitting....

It seems that we have developed the perception that the cardinals situation hitting stinks. Looking at the numbers, they don’t. Small sample size caveat of course (~300 PA for RISP, ~500 for no one one, ~30 with bases loaded)

Ave, OBP, SLG, OPS, BABIP
RISP: .257 .376 .371 .747 .298
none on: .264 .354 .415 .769 .293
bases loaded: .360 .357 .440 .797 .409

The OPS is slightly higher when the bases are empty, but not by much. And it is actually about 30 points higher with the bases loaded. They are hitting as well with RISP as with bases empty. We weight the RISP situation more heavily so it seems like they always fail, when in fact they ‘succeed’ as often as they normally do. You might argue that they should hit better in RISP situations, which would be great, but we can’t expect that (for what it is worth, the hottest team in baseball does hit better with RISP – the Dbacks have OPS of .882 with RISP compared to .720 with the bases empty, but the BABIP is about 25 points higher with RISP).

by cdb on Apr 26, 2008 1:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Doh

Fiddlesticks.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

hmmmm

please dont be one of THOSE games after last night

by Smokin Turkeys on Apr 26, 2008 1:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wainer is not looking sharp right now

by mizzoustlfan on Apr 26, 2008 1:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He doesn't look that bad

The 1 HR sucked. But Lee look silly on that swing. And his pickoff move looks alright.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Got the slider going against Lee, looked like he got away with one to Berkman

by mizzoustlfan on Apr 26, 2008 1:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Everyone...

Still sleeping off the hang over from last night?

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Either that or they're still pissed off ...

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 26, 2008 1:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

they should get over it.

We’re going to lose at least 50 more this year.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

late game last night

+ tough loss + weekend w/ decent weather all adds up

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 26, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

has anyone else noticed that Wainer’s Curve is slightly different this year more lateral break than last year

by mizzoustlfan on Apr 26, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, LaRue found a way to get on base, finally ...

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 26, 2008 1:39 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I'd like to see Wainer

touch ‘em all and get that solo shot back.

The Dude abides.

by drewmaniac on Apr 26, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

nor would it have.

It’s hard to hit a solo shot with a man on first.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

wow.

Didn’t see that comming. GJ adam.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 1:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Ausmus is an idiot ...

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 26, 2008 1:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

He can play worth a sh*t, so I guess he thinks this is his contribution ...

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 26, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

no tv

what’s happening?

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Daryl Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms!

by 82Special on Apr 26, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

ausmus is an idiot

waino threw a ball that went behind Ausmus’s back. Brad then got all bitchy and started yelling, so both benches/bullpens cleared.
no one fought or got ejected.

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Apr 26, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Benches clear

Kick his ass, Adam.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

stability

my 2 cents is to stabilize the lineup and not try to play prognosticator every game. it doesn’t seem to me that our players are so good that they (e.g., miles) can play 3 positions at an effective major league level day in and day out. same for which outfield position. the business with barton in right instead of left because it is “tricky” is simply over thinking the situation. anyone who plays the same position day in, day out will get a better jump on the ball. you know balls will be hit out there, but maybe never to the tricky part. i just think tony is overdoing it because he is convinced so many of his guys aren’t everyday players. that’s bs to me until proven otherwise. i point out how much luddy improved last year as he got more consistent playing time. can he do it full time? who knows, he’ll never get a chance with tlr. same for ryan.
frustrating

If you can keep your head when all about you are losing theirs, perhaps you haven't grasped the situation!

by sportsman on Apr 26, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

um

why would we want to hit AUSMUS of all people?
and why would we retaliate for a pitch that might not have even nicked LaRue’s jersey?

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Apr 26, 2008 1:44 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

They hit Adam's Catcher

So he threw behind thiers.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

perhaps a LaRue vs Ausmus feud that goes way back?

Ausmus wants LaRue to get hit, LaRue wanted retaliation? Makes sense to me.

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by stltrav09 on Apr 26, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yea

ausmus vs. larue. if they both get kicked out of the game, that will really cripple both teams…
i say let ‘em fight.

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Apr 26, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Who knows ... it's all bullshit ...

But maybe it’ll wake us up ...

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 26, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I do admit...

...to slightly enjoying seeing Albert calmly step in front of Wainwright at the start of that little fracas. As if to say please, come at my pitcher, you little, little man.

by six on Apr 26, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ausmus and Pujols

are decent friends. They were the ones that talked to each other after the Towles situation 2 weeks ago.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cards'll score 5 runs in the next inning

book it.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

thats what I am thinking

Wagonmaker as motivator….

by cdb on Apr 26, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

let's get a W

I gotta go, it’s Draft Day!
bring home a winner

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Apr 26, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Alright, here comes the runs

eewww.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 1:53 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If it happens

someone needs to buy you a beer, and you should purchase a lottery ticket too.

The Dude abides.

by drewmaniac on Apr 26, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I love you.

In a nongay Evil type way.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

is there a delay?

nothings happening on Gameday

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Daryl Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms!

by 82Special on Apr 26, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

never mind

My first memory of Cardinals baseball is seeing Daryl Porter jump into Bruce Sutter's arms!

by 82Special on Apr 26, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Skip's bat would play so well at 2B

why can’t they try to move him there?

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

+1

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by stltrav09 on Apr 26, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

You ever wonder...

If Ankiel goes to the plate thinking, “I threw much better than this guy does.”

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lol

The Dude abides.

by drewmaniac on Apr 26, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

These Cardinals hitters keep spinning out of the way

of Oswalt throwing at them. Hang in there and send his butt to the showers.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 1:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Well, Albert's awake ...

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 26, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

huh?

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Oh

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i love it when the ‘stros instigates against us.

I think when we play the cubs soon I should pay someone to talk shit from the dug out and see how fired up we get.

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 26, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pitch behind the back

On a related topic, was anyone watching the Cubs vs. Nationals game last night during the rain delay? Lastings Milledge came up to bat and was digging into the batters box for an exceptionally long time and with great zeal. Bob Brenley said that it reminded him of a Bob Gibson story: someone was digging into the batters box in a similar manner and Gibson yelled at the batter to “dig it deep enough to bury yourself in”. Brenley said Gibson then beaned him in the head on the next pitch.

Can anyone verify that the story is true? Tony would blow a gasket if anyone on his team did that.

by CURVEBALL on Apr 26, 2008 2:02 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I don't know that Gibby would purposefully hit a guy

in the head.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That's what I thought

but I’m not old enough to have seen Gibson play and remember it. I thought it was probably embellishment.

by CURVEBALL on Apr 26, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

old guy chimes in

“fierce competitor” stories have proliferated about Bob Gibson, especially the longer his actual career is a memory. MY memory is that he was in no way a head-hunter. He was the most rhythmical and fluid hurler I have ever seen… and still, that is, be generally in the category of a power pitcher. Others may have looked as smooth in their delivery, but not with the kind of heat and movement on the fastball that Gibby consistently showed.

He looked exactly like what he was - a basketball player on the pitcher’s mound. His style was unimitable; I’ve never seen a pitcher with a similar delivery, and yet it was without quirks - fluid, fluid, fluid.

re hit batsman… I scanned a few career numbers of pitchers of Gibby stature: taking what I arbitrarily rated as their best three year period, the HPB numbers are—
Gibson (66-68) 15; Drysdale (62-64) 31; Ryan (72-74) 26; Clemens (90-92) 21; Seaver (69-71) 15; Marichal (63-65) 7

by the Tewk on Apr 26, 2008 11:35 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Troy

How about you do something to make up for those two bases loaded strike outs.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

ok.

That will work.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Here comes Glaus making rain

non-Pacman style.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

exactly how shallow

was that shallow fly ball to right field?

I thought for sure Pujols was gonna be thrown out the way the announcers were talking

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by stltrav09 on Apr 26, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

shallow

but Pence ran into Bourn to make the catch,

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

think pujols was tagging and heading home no matter what?

or was it heads up base-running, knowing they were going to collide?

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by stltrav09 on Apr 26, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Bourn was under it and looked to have position

Then Pence jump in front of him going sideways. Caught the ball and wasn’t in position to make the throw.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Good baserunning, there ...

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 26, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Oswalt

Has 64 pitches in the 3rd…So that means he’ll make it through 8 ininngs right?

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

can we not make references to last night?

I just ate lunch and want to try and keep it down :P

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Apr 26, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

look at his numbers on day games

or road games, he’s actually playing reasonable. i hope they get him something to help at night

I’ll blame Canada, they had to screw him up.

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 26, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Did anyone else love Wainwrights demeanor when Ausmus was barking at him?

He just stood there and stared Ausmus down, didn’t even say a thing from what I saw.

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by Raconteur on Apr 26, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I did.

I agree. Didn’t need to say anything to make his point.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Boo

I was wrong.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 2:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

we forgive you

3 will work

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by stltrav09 on Apr 26, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Not your fault

Kennedy was batting.

Zing.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

4 runners went on, we brought three of them home. I love those types of stats!

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 26, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Overshot that a bit

But still, you were right about them getting woke up.

The Dude abides.

by drewmaniac on Apr 26, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

that must have been a nice shower

I come back and the Cards have 3 runs!

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 2:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Matsui

sure seems to be hitting Waino hard, glad that one didn’t carry.

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 26, 2008 2:11 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That one did though

We got a ballgame apparently.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

The delay on mlb.tv

is massive.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

must be.

My Direct TV is at least 10 seconds behind the Radio too.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

delay

from what I can tell, the delay is around 19-20 seconds on my end. I actually get to see the games on real tv today, and possibly tomorrow. I only get to see them when they play the Stros as I am living in Houston.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 26, 2008 3:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've seen worse

like entire minutes. It all matters when you log in.

by JI on Apr 26, 2008 3:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I gotta say, Berkman has the classies move when he hits a HR...

no showboating, just lays his bat on the ground and hustles around the bases. It’s hard to hate him even though he plays for the Astros

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by Raconteur on Apr 26, 2008 2:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

*classiest

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Apr 26, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

even if he does run the bases like an 8 year old girl

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by stltrav09 on Apr 26, 2008 2:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I've always not like him much

but that’s just me

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I say we put Wainer at 2nd in between starts

Just to get his bat in the lineup. Haha

The Dude abides.

by drewmaniac on Apr 26, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I like the plate patience

but doesn’t it seem awkward when Ryan is doing it? I know he’s new and all, but with his type of swing/run I’d like to see him be a little more aggressive. Guess it helped the pitch count, but he doesn’t look overly comfortable watching and waiting.

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 26, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

followed up by

Skip ‘ha! you can’t give me a GIDP with two outs, take that!”

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 26, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

82 pitches through 4 for Oswalt

by mizzoustlfan on Apr 26, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The sad thing is that even if we fatigue him

with all this patience, aside from Pujols, we’ll just have to single him to death.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 2:24 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

hmm.

back-to-back-to-back HRs comming up.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Has Waino

hit a slider in the strikezone at all this game? he got a couple strikes from fouls/foultips, but it seems to really move out of the zone.

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 26, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

that’s the point of a slider, to look like it’s in the zone so the batter goes to swing at it, just to have it slide out and have him miss.

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by cardwash on Apr 26, 2008 2:27 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

right

I’m saying they’ve generally not even been close, I was curious because I don’t know how much he depends on it. If he’s using it as a setup pitch, or not.

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 26, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

MLB.tv just froze

why???

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 2:30 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

nevermind

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I dont know

Nothing exciting happened accept ankiel and Albert getting out.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it's crap!

crap I tell ya.

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 2:34 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

will they pinch hit for Oswalt he is at 97 pitches

by mizzoustlfan on Apr 26, 2008 2:32 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I’m surprised they would let him face the murderer’s row of Glaus, Kennedy, and LaRue with a high pitch count

by mizzoustlfan on Apr 26, 2008 2:36 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think what the Cardinals need

is a HR to get out of this offensive funk

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 2:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

no homers since April 18, I would say they are due

by mizzoustlfan on Apr 26, 2008 2:37 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

wow I hadn't realized that it had been that long

When ank is slumping and Albert is getting walked we really have no power do we?

by TxCardFan on Apr 26, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Kennedy hit a double

brb. Im going to go mark this on my calander.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 2:43 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

You read it here first

Kennedy will have more extra base hits than Larue will have hits this year. /sarcasm

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 26, 2008 2:46 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

What is the tally as of right now, Kennedy 2, LaRue 1

by mizzoustlfan on Apr 26, 2008 2:48 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

we now have 6, count em, 6, extra-base hits total

from Miles, Kennedy, and Izturis so far this year.

by tom s. on Apr 26, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

love the fact..

there is still bad blood between these teams, even though neither team is where they used to be.

by thewizard3 on Apr 26, 2008 2:45 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Come on Adam,

111 pitches, get on base so we can chase Oswalt out with 3 innings of bullpen

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 26, 2008 2:48 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

he could hit a homer

more easily than a lot of our hitters

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Cause Wainwright makes louder outs

than Izturis makes hits.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 2:50 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If Ryan drives in these runs

Izturis will start tomorrow.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 2:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Wheew

Thank goodness.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

all right Ryan

time for first hit of the day

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 2:51 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

crap

looks like izt is back

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I don't like

them letting the ‘Stros hang around like this. We need to be finishing them off.

The Dude abides.

by drewmaniac on Apr 26, 2008 2:52 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

how come everytime someone says something like.

“i dont like letting so and so hang around like this…”

They tie it up.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Because baseball has a rhthym to it

and often times you can pick up on it fairly easy.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Frikking Berkman

That guy just kills us every time it seems

by mikedallas45 on Apr 26, 2008 2:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

That wasn't even a strike

it was a foot off the plate.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 2:54 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it happens

I just like that fact that the HRs adam does give up are solo shots.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and that's why

I don’t like him

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 2:55 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

5 hits

3 homers… wtf

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by stltrav09 on Apr 26, 2008 2:54 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

The Astros have as many HRs in this game

than we do with every game added together since April 17.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 2:56 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

and it’s 2 very, very weak hits and 3 375+ homers. lol

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 26, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

87

He can get through 8 today.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He's still sharp

that HR by Berkman was ridiculous.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 2:57 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so wainer finally let some homers in a game, big deal, as long as he keeps them solo homers and far and few between

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by cardwash on Apr 26, 2008 2:56 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Berkman or Derrek Lee?

If you couldn’t have Pujols, and you had to choose one of those two to be your first baseman, who would you pick?

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by Raconteur on Apr 26, 2008 2:58 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Derek Lee

The Dude abides.

by drewmaniac on Apr 26, 2008 2:58 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Lee is a better defensive player

Berkman isn’t as brittle.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 2:59 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Top of the line up.

Lets throw up some more runs. Give Adam the lead. And then we can give Reyes the save. Or Adam the complete game.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

lee

i hate berkman

Supercalifragilisticexpialidocious

by showmejoe on Apr 26, 2008 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

c'mon boys

let’s have a barrage of homeruns. now.

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Is it weird that every inning we don't score runs in

I run over to check mlbtraderumors.com to see if we signed Bonds? :D

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 2:59 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Bonds

what if he comes back and just sucks?

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Then you release him

and all it cost you was money. No players.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

not sayin it's a bad idea

But which outfielder do we send down?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 3:05 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

haha im with you...

but no chance it will ever happen

by FunkeeC on Apr 26, 2008 3:02 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Tony is using the

“We can get on the other side of this wall if we just keep running into it” approach for Ankiel busting out of his slump. Just keep running into the wall until it falls down, damn it!

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Pujols hurt himself

on that foul ball.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

We should abolish the hit and run

and just go with straight steals. We’d have 15 steals by now.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

well Albert

you can’t win ‘em all

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 3:08 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not that bad

when considering how many baserunners we get. hopefully the luck will turn…

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 3:09 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

seriously

its amazing. I’d thought we’d be complaining about the starting pitching by now. If that falls apart….well i dont wanna think about it.

by FunkeeC on Apr 26, 2008 3:10 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

it seems like every game Wainwright's started this year

has been a nail-biter. we need this one, start hitting!

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 3:12 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Boxscore

5-4 W
1-5 L
5-4 W
4-3 ND

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:14 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Is Horton taking shots at TLR

with the “Brendan Ryan fields his position very, very smooth”.

Ha.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:13 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I've always liked his fielding

and he’s a lot of fun to watch playing

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 3:13 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I'm a Redskins fan

but the Rams should have traded out of that spot. Heck, they should still trade Long to Oakland.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I doubt they were getting an offer good enough to trade down...

I’m very happy with the C. Long pick.

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Apr 26, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Why didn't they take Dorsey?

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

need DE more

carriker staying at DT, rams have depth at DT and no DE past little

by FunkeeC on Apr 26, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so if Waino gets Bourn out unscathed

Do you send a tired Wainwright out in the 9th? Or which of our clutch-challenged bullpen members do you send?

by tom s. on Apr 26, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if we don't score

I say you send him again. One more inning…

The Dude abides.

by drewmaniac on Apr 26, 2008 3:16 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

so do u leave waino to finish it im he doesnt come up

he looked very sharp but should he really pitch to berkman again

by huts04 on Apr 26, 2008 3:15 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Leave him out there is what I do

but LaRussa will get Franklin or Springer in for no-reason. It’s dogmatic.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:15 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Let him hit

You need Barton and Ludwick vs LHP in the 9th.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

let wainer bat for himself.

by sbentley on Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i disagree

wagonmaker been left in too long the last 2 outings. i prefer him healthy as he is out only legit starter at this point

by FunkeeC on Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

agrees with the first part

doesn’t really see the second point

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just my opinion

that most of our staff is pitching over its head up to this point in the season

by FunkeeC on Apr 26, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

He didn't even get to 100 last outing.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:18 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

you are correct

2 of the last 4 he’s been up over 100

by FunkeeC on Apr 26, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

heh

that Duncan pic cracks me up every time

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 3:17 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

me too

it goes along with the one of him with the world series trophy. maybe he should quit partying so much and he’d be a better ball player.

by sbentley on Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Hey Troy

what’s the pollen count?

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

If LaRue comes up

Do you pinch hit Ludwick for him and let Yadi finish up?

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 3:19 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Yes

but who is the emergency catcher?

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Brilliant!

But it won’t be done.

The Dude abides.

by drewmaniac on Apr 26, 2008 3:20 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Ok, how about in the 9th

you let Adam bat for himself and pitch the 10th?

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:21 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

not unless he gets thru the 9th in 10 pitches or less.

by sbentley on Apr 26, 2008 3:22 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I think we have too many leadoff type hitters

remember when this was a concern?

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by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 3:22 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

if by leadoff

you mean too many hitters with no chance for an extra bases hit then yes you are correct

by FunkeeC on Apr 26, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

yep.

and back then we had all kinds of power. It has certainly flip flopped.

The Dude abides.

by drewmaniac on Apr 26, 2008 3:23 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Damnit

That was a nicely hit ball.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 3:23 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Adam Kennedy decieves you

he swings like Ken Griffey but hits like Kent Bottenfield.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:24 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Put down the phone, TLR

Don’t make the change.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:26 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Where'd everybody go?

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

still here

Adam is still in there with two outs.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

just no one whine

About Tony leaving adam in there if Berkman hits his 3rd.

by Evilfrog on Apr 26, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

It's Adam's game

he’s earned to win or lose it.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

I won't

Just have to tip your cap.

The Dude abides.

by drewmaniac on Apr 26, 2008 3:30 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

If he walks Tejada

he’s out.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Look what I found!

says Troy.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

all right

now just feed berkman some garbage

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 3:29 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

i have been impressed

with how easy glaus makes his defense look

by huts04 on Apr 26, 2008 3:28 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

Walk Berkman

no one up in the pen. It’s up to Adam one way or another.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:31 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

I love that when a pitcher is up over 100 pitches

we make him throw over to 1st.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

Automatic Ball

for going to his mouth.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

cards are going to need all the pitching they can get

if they are going to be in this many tight games

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 26, 2008 3:32 PM EDT up reply actions   0 recs

That walk should be it for Adam

even though that was a strike.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

All sliders to Pence

please.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 26, 2008 3:35 PM EDT reply actions   0 recs

12-6

Right here Waino. I know you have it.

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