Game 21 overflow thread II
by lboros on Apr 22, 2008 4:29 PM EDT
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Printbetter lucky than good, eh? it's 8 to 8, and the cards have 2 on and 2 out in the top of the 9th. . . . . as in every other inning in this stupid game. they have stranded 13 men so far today. what's the franchise record for a 9-inning game?
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who's the middle infield now?
hoping iz2 can stick it out. if not, probably schumaker moves into one of the mif spots, i guess?
e'rebuilding mang
coal, coal, coal.
I guess we’ve all been naughty this year.
by thefutureofamerica on Apr 22, 2008 4:32 PM EDT reply actions
holy shit
can you possibly win after giving up this many chances to score runs??
lets leave pujols at second
and duncan at first tomorrow if this works
AGREE
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 4:34 PM EDT up reply actions
he has never played an inning at second base
in his major league career, per mlb.tv.
one game at short in 2002
e'rebuilding mang
I'm usually a big TLR backer
the moves today have me baffled
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
worst roster management this year
This is what happens when TLR burns through his outfielders left and right. Ridiculous.
I don't know if it's the franchise record,
but there was a game in 1994 where they left 14 RISP.
http://www.baseball-reference.com/boxes/SLN/SLN199405240.shtml
we better win this one soon
we expended all of our resources to get to the bottom of the ninth.
if it goes more than 10 or 11, we lose.
Best hitting 2nd baseman of all time...
Albert!
by thefutureofamerica on Apr 22, 2008 4:36 PM EDT reply actions
Fantasy implications...
Man, I’d be happy if I had Pujols on my team and he was 2b eligible…
I am
My keeper league allows to move a player if he plays one game during the season at a position. For the rest of the year, AP will be at 2B.
C70 at the Bat
best since
Joe Morgan (according to Joe)
I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.
They might be regretting sending Rico down now.....
"Get your hands off me you damn dirty ape!" -RIP Charlton Heston
Ankiels at bat totally unexceptable!!!!!!!
Guy is throw 50% change ups and Glaus is trying to pull something. What is this???
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on Apr 22, 2008 4:37 PM EDT reply actions
Ankiel is a young hitter.........in many ways
You are seeing the evolution of Ankiel out of the 4th slot at least. When you need a single against a pitcher in that much trouble, with only a change up left, you don’t throw your right hand, open your shoulder. pull your chin out…...dreaming of baseball tonight coverage….......
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on Apr 22, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
So is...
your spelling of unacceptable!!!!!!!!
by thefutureofamerica on Apr 22, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
better question
can miles turn a 4-6-3?
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
I wanna see Pu turn a DP at 2nd
Actually, with his elbow, no I don’t…
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pujols webgem time
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 4:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Pujols at second
Aren’t we worried about his throwing arm elbow? Why is he at second?
"Chokes it hard down on the knob from the right side. Stands erect deep in the box."
I think maybe La Russa
is interested in getting on SportsCenter tonight.
"Chokes it hard down on the knob from the right side. Stands erect deep in the box."
by arch support on Apr 22, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
he prob took ground balls there in spring training
bc he is el hombre
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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 4:39 PM EDT up reply actions
i know larue did
and looked quite good, better than miles imho. I don’t know why they moved albert instead.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
I was gonna say,
I’d rather see La Rue in left and Skip at second than Albert at second.
"Chokes it hard down on the knob from the right side. Stands erect deep in the box."
by arch support on Apr 22, 2008 4:41 PM EDT up reply actions
Trivia types?
when was the last time two starting pitchers were used as pinch hitters in the same game? Anyone know how to find out?
Curse you Endy!!!!!
When was the last time two pitchers batted 8th
AND two starting pitchers were used as pinch hitters in the same game?
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it happened about 3 minutes ago
thank you, thank you..what did i win?
Hahah
The annoucers were talking about how many times albert has taken a throw from the catcher and made a tag? DId he forget that Yadi is behind the plate?
I walked in and told everyone i work with
that today was going to be super productive for me.
that was before i knew it was an early game. go cards.
I am planning on being productive this evening lol..
"Get your hands off me you damn dirty ape!" -RIP Charlton Heston
what is this super productive of which you speak??
I have a crap load of stuff to do and yet, I can’t turn away
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on Apr 22, 2008 4:42 PM EDT up reply actions
this has gotta be
the weirdest game ever
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 22, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply actions
best two game series ever
does k-mac have to bat for himself?
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2008 4:42 PM EDT reply actions
Whew!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
40th anniversary of Gibson's 1.12 ERA, Think he could pitch in the bullpen now?
yep
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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
395'
two steps onto the track for ANK
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Apr 22, 2008 4:43 PM EDT up reply actions
Utley second best at 2nd base today
Utely definitely not the best hitter at second today
funny
but bad
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Apr 22, 2008 4:44 PM EDT up reply actions
aaargh i have a 2 PM meeting
gotta leave, I’m going to go crazy wondering how this thing ended…
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
Stop making sense...
"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver
by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 22, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
Where's Turnbow when you need him?
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he cant hide forever
i take your signatures and use them as away messages
by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 4:45 PM EDT up reply actions
Yes
But when you need a single, Gritty McSlapsalot is your man.
then he had better point to first base
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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 4:47 PM EDT up reply actions
gotta love the LOOP
I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!
by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 4:48 PM EDT up reply actions
and then Wellemeyer pinch runs
when BLooper cranks a double into the gap!
Who`s gonna pitch next inning?
Anthony?
"Get your hands off me you damn dirty ape!" -RIP Charlton Heston
10th inning
gotta stick with looper to pitch the 10th?
by baked mcbride on Apr 22, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
LaRussa must be having the time of his life
He’s really getting a real dose of his every player on the team philosophy.
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 22, 2008 4:49 PM EDT reply actions
hahaha
I know I would be having the time of my life. This game is something out of my managing on MVP Baseball
by PolancoMcEwing on Apr 22, 2008 4:50 PM EDT up reply actions
Assuming looper doesn't pitch
this is the 3rd pitcher used as a pinch hitter.
Curse you Endy!!!!!
Aaron Miles...
“What a pain in the neck that guy is…” according to Uecker.
"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver
by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 22, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions
Or a pain in the back
if you try to rob him
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the pitch on that walk was
just a bit outside
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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Uecker is not
as entertaining as I thought he’d be…I prefer the “Major League” version.
"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver
by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 22, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions
in a blowout uecker gets pretty close to the major league version
hey thanks for tying the game cardinals.
these late leads lost are a lot of fun as a brewer fan.
i think this one is destined for a wacky finish.
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+1
Bring back the old logo…love the MB glove logo. Why did the Brew Crew get rid of it?
"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver
by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 22, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
stupid 90s and those funky near-pastels
remember when all the new sports teams had that shade of green and purple… the brewers fell victim. thankfully they’ve recovered… partially.
Bring Back The Old Logo!
Their old uniforms
were definitely better…love the pinstripes and blue/gold combo.
As a Cards fan, I’m glad the uniforms have stayed largely unchanged throughout the years. It’s a classic look that never grows old.
"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver
by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 22, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
according to gameday
Hardy and Rivera.
TSF
by TedSimmonsFan on Apr 22, 2008 4:51 PM EDT up reply actions
Damn it, Miles
Did you have to take another base? Would it kill you to have a 1-for-6 day with a double?
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions
Nope.
Only a lousy “opportunity”, as he only got in “scoring position”. What a crock.
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
can we just call this one
a tie? c’mon Bud
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 22, 2008 4:50 PM EDT reply actions
13 pitchers on the roster?
Seems to me that carrying only 12 position players is why we find ourselves in this predicament today. (Sorry if this has already been covered.)
Already used the wagonmaker for a pinch-hit sac fly. Looper pinch hitting now.
Maybe we’ll see Ankiel as a reliever today. :-)
TSF
A lot of pitchers
with a history of not going deep into games is what caused this.
Curse you Endy!!!!!
hadn't thought about it that way
Still, 13 of ‘em? I remember when the debate was whether to carry 10 (5 SPs, 5 RPs) or 11 (6 RPs) was the debate. It wasn’t that long ago.
TSF
by TedSimmonsFan on Apr 22, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Thompson will be gone tomorrow
Westcoastbirdwatcher
by westcoastbirdwatcher on Apr 22, 2008 4:55 PM EDT up reply actions
Yeah, but . . .
we need another hitter now.
TSF
by TedSimmonsFan on Apr 22, 2008 4:57 PM EDT up reply actions
Uh oh
The man who called the Lohse deal is back with more news. Anything else you can tell us?
"Chokes it hard down on the knob from the right side. Stands erect deep in the box."
by arch support on Apr 22, 2008 4:58 PM EDT up reply actions
Atlanta, maybe?
"Chokes it hard down on the knob from the right side. Stands erect deep in the box."
by arch support on Apr 22, 2008 5:00 PM EDT up reply actions
Sorry
I said “man”. I suppose you could be female as well.
"Chokes it hard down on the knob from the right side. Stands erect deep in the box."
by arch support on Apr 22, 2008 5:02 PM EDT up reply actions
Anybody else see La Russa
grope his own chest in the dugout?
Gagne should get the win.
For hurting our position player and exponsing our lack of position depth on the roster.
i guess he swept the elbow
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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
22 innings anyone?
Move glaus to OF, ankiel to pitch, Molina to 3B, albert back to first, um, let’s see…
miles
can pitch
I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!
by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 4:56 PM EDT up reply actions
I know there are a lot of games in the season
but that doesn’t mean these extra inning games don’t get me excited.
Well
I slept through the entirety of overflow thread #1…and here we are. Glad the game is still on, haha.
We interupt this broadcast of Cardinals Baseball
to give our viewing faithful the chance to take a bathroom break.
just said he won't pitch cuz they pitched sunday
I’m sure if they need a pitcher they’ll be used
by from First to Third on Apr 22, 2008 4:57 PM EDT reply actions
Nice pitch, FranKlin
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big deal for fantasy leagues!
that allow position eligibility based on 1 AB
if i were the brew crew
i would get pujols a putout at first
Good job, Frank
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1B
We must currently have the weakest 1B in baseball right now . . .
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
and the best 2B
just depends on how you want to look at it.
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larue
what a worthless hole in the lineup
but i wouldn’t want to say it to his face
by PolancoMcEwing on Apr 22, 2008 5:01 PM EDT up reply actions
OK...top of the lineup
this is the inning to score…PLEASE?
double by schu, single by ankiel, single by albert
by from First to Third on Apr 22, 2008 5:02 PM EDT reply actions
if Larue was catching in the AL
they’d use the DH to hit for him and not the pitcher!!!
yes it is legal
god damn, you love to shoot people down moron
no, it's not legal
and that was totally uncalled for.
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions
yes it is legal
you dont have to DH for the pitcher!!!!!
from wikipedia
The designated hitter cannot be used for any other player but the pitcher
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
skippy
has def won me over many times as out leadoff hitter
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who leads the team in multi-hit games?
it’s gotta be Skip
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rally killer
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+1
and yikes, albert looked fooled on that pitch.
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2008 5:06 PM EDT up reply actions
If the walked Pujols
with the bases jammed, seemed unlikely they would pitch him now . . .
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
Gotta be
It was supposed to starte at 1:05 EDT, dunno if it was early or late or on time or whatever
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pretty much
it’s made me 4 years older in the process.
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2008 5:08 PM EDT up reply actions
im sorry
it just sounds really bad right now.
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
guys don't bake!
seriously, those commercials piss off anyone else?
Not all guys are dumb blue collar workers.
Not all blue collar workers are dumb
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all
of these commercials on FSN piss me off, the same over and over and over and over and…
I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!
by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
"dumb blue collar workers"
real classy comment
personally, I hate the schnucks commercials with all the “na, na, na, nas” in it.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
schnucks makes it easier.
bull.
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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't bake
Well. I’ll bake fish and porkchops. But I never baked cookies or anything. Actually. I tired cookies when I was like 12. I put in a tablespoon of baking soda instead of a teaspoon of baking soda. Who knew?
At least
they didn’t leave anyone on base.
by DisplacedCardsFan on Apr 22, 2008 5:09 PM EDT reply actions
Man
The deeper this game goes, the worse I feel about it.
Franklin can’t hold down this lineup forever.
"Chokes it hard down on the knob from the right side. Stands erect deep in the box."
by arch support on Apr 22, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions
has hoffpauir
played any short, hes hitting over 300
LOL.
did he use his glove????
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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 5:11 PM EDT up reply actions
no
you never put the winning run on.
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions
i dont know
with 2 outs and a much more dangerous hitter up than anyone else in their lineup
i know that
i was just saying that he’s just slightly less dangerous than fielder.
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
I kinda like that idea
I reserve judgment until I have the benefit of 20/20 hindsight.
"Chokes it hard down on the knob from the right side. Stands erect deep in the box."
by arch support on Apr 22, 2008 5:13 PM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
Give me Turnbow or give me death
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"Shannon says"
Sounds like a poorly written local commercial:
“Shannon says:
‘For a leaky basement, I only trust [insert local basement people here]!!’”
"Chokes it hard down on the knob from the right side. Stands erect deep in the box."
by arch support on Apr 22, 2008 5:17 PM EDT up reply actions
Heal your home
with Helitech…
"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver
by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 22, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
i had great plans for today
lets hope they all went down the drain for a win at least!
I know
Franklin made his name on a low walk rate, but you figure that one was pretty smart
Curse you Endy!!!!!
It's almost as if
we are toying with them. We coulda scored 15 runs by now!
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 22, 2008 5:16 PM EDT reply actions
atta boy
Frank
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i guess he's done though
looks like we get villone.
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2008 5:18 PM EDT up reply actions
Mad props to Franklin
pitching like a man possessed today
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good job franklin
now if someone could bring like 12 franklins to my desk that would be great
e'rebuilding mang
Too bad Albert cant' pitch
or I’d say LaRussa should go for the old Oquendo, where he plays every position during a season
by DisplacedCardsFan on Apr 22, 2008 5:18 PM EDT reply actions
thats not a problem
pujols is a knuckler
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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 5:19 PM EDT up reply actions
I dunno
Everyone except whoever is starting tomorrow, I’d imagine
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it looks like
isringhausen, reyes, and villone could all be used, right? the brewers next move is to go to tomorrow’s starter, dave bush.
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ludwick
is not as amazing as everyone says. he struggles frequently
He's reached base 4 out of 7 times today
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you know a guy is having a good year
when he’s on base 4 times out of 7 and that causes his OPS to drop 32 points…
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
what the hell???
you arent serious? the guy has been onbase 4 out of 7 ABs today and he strikeouts and you give him a hard time?? no one said he is “amazing” but he sure as hell is one of the 3 best OFs on this team
Today's hero...
LaRue?
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 5:21 PM EDT reply actions
I wonder
if Larue hits a homer, will he go all Lawless on us and flip the bat
by DisplacedCardsFan on Apr 22, 2008 5:23 PM EDT up reply actions
Someone tell Glaus
the basic law of hitting: you usually don’t hit a homerun when you’re trying to.
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not exactly true
a lot of homers come when a power hitter tries to cruch it
looking one pitch one spot
on a 2-0 or 3-1 count is different then pulling your head and flailing for the fences.
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Im leaving work to actually watch this game on tv—here’s to a great fought game and hopefully a win!!
good luck cards
win this one. I can’t take any more of the insanity
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 22, 2008 5:25 PM EDT reply actions
Poor LaRue
0-6 is a tough game.
"Chokes it hard down on the knob from the right side. Stands erect deep in the box."
by arch support on Apr 22, 2008 5:26 PM EDT up reply actions
it was a stike
from what i could tell from tv
sigh
gameday on mlb.com says McClung gave him 6 straight fastballs. Wainwright would have hit one of those out by now. Even Gary Bennett was not so futile!
by PolancoMcEwing on Apr 22, 2008 5:27 PM EDT up reply actions
cedeno
hit a grand slam. i hate the cubs so much.
16 LOB, that's sixteen
"Ninety percent I'll spend on good times, women, and Irish whiskey.
The other ten percent I'll probably waste."
- Phillies pitcher Tug McGraw, on his plans for his $75,000 salary
Root harder
the pond scum are on the wrong end of an 8-1 beat down.
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
great
three outs on 6 pitches. 7th save
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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions
My god, I just checked the box score from work
This is insane. Every start praying for Ryan to heal and return to the team.
Yeesh
A four pitch walk. There’s the Izzy I missed yesterday.
"Chokes it hard down on the knob from the right side. Stands erect deep in the box."
by arch support on Apr 22, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
7 balls in 9 pitches
ouch.
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
Good ol' Izzy
Setting up the double-play ball for our makeshift infield.
"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert
Albert to Miles to LaRue!
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 5:32 PM EDT up reply actions
There goes the DP
"...but If I can do some damage and help my team win, I'm going to stay in there" -Albert
d'oh!
stolen base
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 5:34 PM EDT up reply actions
5-4-6-3 double play
pujols tosses it to miles for the turn after glaus throws it over
I just noticed.
That sheets isn’t starting tomorrow. If nothing else maybe we can send the brewers in a 4-5 skid because of thier bullpen.
Damn
At least we played a hard 12
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i hate the cubs so much
i live in chicago and i cannot stand them. shoot me now
"Get out there, Izzy
we gotta plane to catch.”
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 5:36 PM EDT reply actions
they said something about it on the broadcast
don’t quite remember what it was.
something about a strained hip or quad maybe?
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2008 5:40 PM EDT up reply actions
damn
oh well, we proably didn’t deserve to win either of these games so it was nice to pull out one.
don’t like inconsistent izzy though. six pitch save last night to blowing it today.
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2008 5:39 PM EDT reply actions
are the cubs ever gunna lose again?
good god.
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2008 5:42 PM EDT reply actions
They usually wait until
September or October to do the really serious losing . . .
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
albert slid correctly
and he was safe.
by stlcardinalsfang on Apr 22, 2008 5:43 PM EDT up reply actions
he didn't slide correctly
he didn’t slide at all. He may have been safe, but i still think that a better slide away from the catcher would’ve got a ‘safe’ call from the ump.
Still, bench management was the biggest culprit of this game.
true enough
after 12 innings, it’s hard to pinpoint just one thing… Runners on base, missed calls, bench management, an injury…
Value of a Steal
Kinda fits in with the discussion on the value of a steal. In this game, it was the ballgame.
I don’t know if Gross had more than a 75% chance of succeeding, but it sure looks like the right move.
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
So...
I didn’t get the chance to watch the game today as I am at a training seminar. But did it appear that Thompson may have made a case for being the pitcher to be sent down when Ryan is activated off of the DL. One would assume it is a competition amongst Reyes, Thompson, and McClellan. Reyes has not given Tony and Dunc Reason as of yet to leave and McClellan is being used in a manner which would imply he is here to stay for a bit. I’m not saying that Thompson has pitched poorly but is giving up four runs in an inning when brought into to get the hold enough cause in this case to send him down. The bench needs ryan to come home.
Yeah
you don’t wish anyone physical pain but a trip to the DL for Izturis wouldn’t be the worst thing for this team right now.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 6:32 PM EDT up reply actions
I don't know bout that
Is Brendan Ryan coming back? Not that Brendan Ryan is going to be a game changer, yeah I think his offense shoudl be better than Iz but I think Iz is better on the defensive side
I'm still waiting for Izturis 'great defense' to show up
he’s made some slightly difficult plays but his range is either poor or he is out of position alot. He seems also out of position on all relays from the OF.
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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions
Iz
I think some of being out of position is learning how well certain guys throw. I remember one relay where he and kennedy were just too close together, which happens from time to time.
Iz’s D has been 10x better than Eck already. He has made throws from the hole that Eck had no chance making already.
I just don’t think Brendan Ryan is going to be that good, yes he may provide a bit better offense but it’s not like he is a guy who is going to have any shot at hitting 7HR this year.
The Cards just do not have a potent middle infield at all. Brendan Ryan is just a cheaper version of what the Cards already have. He has more speed but it’s not like we are getting some superstar back. I see so many comments about him and I think it will be nice to have him back but it’s not like he is great.
It's not very hard for Ryan to be an improvement offensively
and I don’t think Izturis glove is winning us too many games.
We’ve left 49 men on base vs the Brewers so far this year. We need all the offense we can get.
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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 23, 2008 12:33 AM EDT up reply actions
I think Izturis is still valuable ...
as a back-up SS to Ryan … so I’m glad he’s not going to be completely DL’d … I’d rather have him spelling Brendan than Miles … a defensive substitution at times, if Brendan proves as ‘young’ and ‘erratic’ as Tony claims …
I wish no ill to Cesar, hate to see anyone get hurt, and hope he recovers well; but, I’m very glad Ryan is being called up and certainly look forward to the increased offensive production … Izturis was agonizingly painful to watch at bat … Ryan will be no automatic out …
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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 23, 2008 9:42 AM EDT up reply actions
LaRussa has to get over his fear of playing Barton
for longer than 6 innings. It has cost us two wins vs the Brewers, running out of legit bench options.
The game has a way of finding you if you try to cheat it. LaRussa makes the bench thin, it catches up to him.
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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 6:18 PM EDT reply actions
I really don't understand the hesitation with Barton
He hasn’t had any more obvious miscues than players like Ludwick or Duncan but routinely gets pulled early in games. I’ve noticed comments in game threads that Barton isn’t a good defender but I haven’t noticed that at all.
Whatever the case, La Russa can’t afford to coddle Barton for a full season. It’s time to see if he can play 9 innings.
He can't be worse than Shumaker has looked at times out there
Shu has let balls roll up his shoulder and to the wall, taken bad routes to balls in the gap and for some reason, someone has him playing almost in CF when in LF.
If memory serves right, Barton has as many OF assists as Shu too.
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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions
Gabe Gross just traded to the Rays
Scores winning run and then gets traded after the game.
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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions
should have sent then Schu
when they were interested earlier in the year.
There's probably several teams interested in Skip right now.
and if we get rid of him, who bats leadoff?
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pretty much anyone
“leadoff hitter” is not a position. Good lineups are built based on putting the best available players in them and then sorting as necessary. Bad lineups are built by putting people in the lineup based on which “lineup spot” they can fill. The goal is to score runs and having as many high-OPS players in the lineup as possible is the way you do that.
It’s completely asinine to sit a guy whose ops is almost 500 points higher than another guy because the other guy fits some pre-conceived notion of what a “leadoff hitter” is. If skip wants a starting job on an MLB team, he can take grounders at second like every other 5’ 10” 175lb player.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
i should have rephrased that last sentence
it sounds like I’m “anti-skip”, which I’m not. He’s one of my favorite players. he’s just not one of our 4 or maybe even 5 best outfielders.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
I'm going to disagree slightly
Every position in the lineup is different and leadoff is probably the most unique. Last year SKippy had no clue how to work a count. How many times did we see him go up there and roll over on the first pitch? It’s clear that he really worked on the leadoff role this off-season and in SP and it’s showing. He’s drawing walks and really working the count. You can’t just throw anyone in the leadoff role and expect them to succeed. There’s a mental aspect to leading off the game too.
Barton, while he has all the intangibles of hitting leadoff (makes contact, has speed), has he ever hit leadoff before? I’m not being confrontational, I’m simply asking because I do not know.
And as for your last sentence, I would love Skip to be our 2nd baseman!
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Its skip vs duncan and lud.
Those are your 3 corner OF vs RH pitching. Its pretty clear which 2 of those 3 are the best hitters.
Very true
but it makes sense to ride out this hot streak of his as long as possible. Other options include trading him while his value is high or moving him to 2B.
I honestly believe we could see Skip at 2B before this season is over.
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I agree
At SS or 2B his bat would be good, in the corner OF its not. The corner OF and 1B is where you but the lumbering players with the big bats. If you can find CF or MIF that can hit, you are way ahead of the game. On the other hand a sub 800 OPS out of the corners is not acceptable.
FWIW
Brendan Ryan not in the lineup for the S-Cards tonight. Could it be that he’s catching a flight to Pittsburgh?
I doubt it’s a scheduled off-day because has one the other day (sat I believe.. could be wrong)
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Strauss has reported
That he is on a plane. And Izturis is hurt. So he should be in the line up tomorrow.
Why I wont vote Obama(not a political statement hang in there)
my wife had the remote so she tuned in to see who was winning and Barrack addressed his supporters to…...This is our country…First the 06 playoffs and chevy..now a political canidate? When does it stop…Sorry if i’m a bit late on this but i stay afloat when it comes to that stuff…just thought Id post here since we all hated that song
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
that song is incredibly annoying
but Obama is still getting my vote : )
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ah not making a voting statement really
more of a joke..on a terrible song that seems similar to lee greenwoods song
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2
by punchinjudy on Apr 22, 2008 11:13 PM EDT up reply actions
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