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Game 21 Open Thread: April 22, 2008

Lohse Parra
2-0, 1.48 1-1, 5.40

stat of the day: albert pujols has seen more balls this year --- 166, or 54 percent --- than strikes (143, or 46 percent). from 2001-07 he saw strikes about 58 percent of the time, and never less than 56 percent strikes in any given year. for the sake of comparison, from 2001-03 barry bonds only saw strikes 46 of the time and averaged 175 walks a year (albert’s on pace for ~140 walks). in 2004, when bonds drew 232 walks, only 40 percent of the pitches thrown to him were strikes. . . . last night was albert’s second 3-walk game of the season, and we’re just 20 games in. he’s never had more than three 3-walk games in a single year. . . . .

ryan ludwick’s misadventure in the 8th inning last night got me curious about the overall play of the cards’ outfield defense. you may recall that i wrote a post last month about the sharp sag in the cardinals’ fly-catching ability in 2007. how are they faring so far in 2008? by the numbers, much better. the outfielders have chased 166 catchable flyballs so far (ie, flyballs minus home runs) and put 119 of them away, a 72 percent rate --- that’s about average. but they were well below average last year (only caught 67 percent of the catchable flyballs), so mere competency from the outfielders is a big improvement.

the infield defense, on the other hand, remains outstanding: through 20 games the cardinals are the best in the league at turning groundballs into outs. opponents are batting .177 on groundballs, vs a leaguewide average of .222. that means the cardinal infield has saved 12 base hits over an average team, or about 9 runs ---- nearly half a run a game. the cardinals are a full run a game better than average at run prevention so far (3.55 runs allowed / game, vs a league average of 4.53); if the defense accounts for about half of that savings, then the pitchers get the rest of the credit. they have walked the fewest men in the league (56) and allowed the second-fewest homers (14). avoid free passes, keep it in the park, keep it on the ground . . . . . perfectly executed pitch-to-contactism. but those of us who like strikeouts also have reason to cheer --- the cards’ strikeout total is nearly average this year. they rank 10th in the league in that category, with 6.4 k/9 --- haven’t ranked that high since 2004.

the pitchers’ strong start is probably the main reason the cards are talking such sense about mulder’s return. in 2006 and 07 they were panicky with him, rushing him back (with disastrous results) because they hated the available options (i.e. reyes). but the rhetoric from tony in today’s paper about mulder is refreshingly sensible: "He needs to come up not in a process of rehabbing" (emphasis added). amen. mulder’s rehab assignment began april 15 and can run 30 days, so the team doesn’t have to make any change at all until may 15 --- three more weeks. we’ll know a lot more about mulder by then, but more important we’ll know more about todd wellemeyer, braden looper, and joel pineiro --- as well as (vain hope) anthony reyes. . . . . .

impressions at random:

  • i was extremely impressed by glaus’s at-bat in the 8th inning against guillermo mota. a quick re-set: the score was tied 2-2; ludwick was on 3d after hart’s 3-base error; pujols was on 1st (after an ibb), and there was one out (ankiel had popped out just ahead of glaus). troy looked terrible on the first pitch, swung at a changeup way out of the zone; he fell behind 0-2 and you and i and all of us were thinking he was gonna strike out and the cards were gonna fail to get that damn runner home from 3d. glaus barely stayed alive by fouling off on an 0-2 change (the 3d one he’d seen in that at-bat); mota wasted a couple of fastballs to set him up, then came back with a changeup at the knees on 2-2, hoping to get a groundball (and an inning-ending DP), but glaus recognized the pitch and laid off. mota came back with another on 3-2; glaus recognized it again and didn’t bite. it was glaus’s first at-bat against mota since 2005 --- he hasn’t seen the guy’s pitches in quite some time. so he made a hell of a quick adjustment to avoid a costly out. kennedy’s sac fly ensued, but glaus’s walk was easily the best at-bat in that inning --- the only truly good one in a "rally" that essentially consisted of two fly balls (one misplayed for an error, one caught for a sac fly).
  • wainwright relied on his 3d-best pitch, the slider, to escape trouble in the 7th inning --- both kendall and hardy grounded out on it. the curveball deserted adam that inning --- he threw 6 of them, and 5 missed the strike zone. but 3 of the misses were probably quasi-intentional --- they came against rickie weeks, and adam seemed to be pitching around him to get to jj hardy, who hasn’t hit a ball out of the infield vs wainwright this year (0 hits in 7 tries --- 3 groundouts, 2 pop ups, 2 strikeouts).
  • here’s one of those little splits that is not predictive --- ie, we shouldn’t count on the trend to continue --- but is mildly descriptive: the cardinal hitters in 2008 have been the most productive in the league in innings 7 through 9. that split comes courtesy of Baseball-Reference. through the first 20 games they’re hitting .302 / .392 / 493 in the final 3 innings. the cardinals have played most of their games to date against three of the league’s weakest bullpens (milwaukee san francisco and houston), which is one reason we shouldn’t expect them to keep this up.

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Re: Wainwright

That’s what makes him a servicable Ace. (Not saying he won’t be one of the leagues best pitchers this time next year. Just that he isn’t there yet.) When his best pitch isn’t working, he can use his other pitches and still get through an inning. That and; when he has an inning like the 3rd; he comes back and strikes out the next two guys and gets a 1-2-3 inning.

Can people please remember how good our infield defense has been so far when they are talking about Izturis being a bust; Glaus not being named Rolen; and when Kennedy doesn’t make a prefect throw.

by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 9:23 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

A .524 OPS isn't a bust?

No level of defense can compensate for such a hole in the lineup. Our pitchers have a .473 OPS (and San Fran’s have an OPS of .550). He has earned his slot in the #9 spot.

by bgh on Apr 22, 2008 9:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Im not saying it's good.

Or even that I wouldn’t rather have Ryan playing SS by mid season. But when you pay a guy for his defense you need to judge his contract buy his Defensive play. If we were paying him for his bat I would take a different look at it. Besides. At least he can lay down the sac bunt right?

by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 9:51 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Can't hit or bunt

First of all, I appreciate your bunting comment. Quite humorous, especially given TLR lauding that as one of his tangible offensive skills during Spring Training. I don’t mean to rag on you, but it is not 1987 and Mendoza-level offensive production, not matter the defensive skill, is simply unacceptable.

Your comment presupposes that we should be paying him at all and that he should have a roster spot on any MLB club. Second of all, you can’t pay one of eight everyday offensive regulars on a National League roster based solely on defense. When one slot in the batting order is filled by the pitcher, you cannot afford to allow another black hole to sap your offense. That is what the Cardinals have done with Izturis. No matter how good, or even transcendent, his defense is, it does not and cannot justify his being in the lineup with his woeful offensive production.

I know that there are no other options with Ryan on rehab. (I don’t consider Miles an option at SS.) So, we are stuck with him and forced to look at the silver lining on the storm cloud that is Izturis: his defense. But lets keep in mind, when doing so, that the 9 runs prevented so far are by the infield defense as a whole, not merely by the SS. His runs prevented on defense do not offset his runs prevented on offense by his awful offense.

by bgh on Apr 22, 2008 11:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

you missed my ...

Sarcasim about the bunting.

Anyway. I just don’t think you can apply a label of Bust to a guy when you are getting what you paid for. Izturis has been as advertised. It’s not like we thought we were getting a lifetime .286/.390/.590 guy here.

by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 11:13 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

any

Arguing over label “bust” is silly. So im going to stop here. I too want to see someone with more offense than Izturis has shown so far.

by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 11:19 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Sarcasm

I completely got it, which is why i found it humorous, especially in the wake of TLR’s preseason comments touting his bunting ability. I thought it was great.

You’re right about him being a “bust.” Being a “bust,” insinuates that there was hope he would not have an OPS lower than that of the Dodger and D-Back pitchers. His awful offense is not even remotely a surprise, which is why his receiving $2.85M in guaranteed money and a roster spot is so galling.

We are in agreement, then. Why were we even arguing? :)

by bgh on Apr 22, 2008 11:45 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Pitching

The shift in tone toward Mulder is wonderfully heartening. After the rush with Pineiro, I feared they had learned nothing from the Mulder debacles (and, maybe they haven’t for pitchers not named “Mulder”). Nonetheless, it’s good to see that they are giving him more time and allowing the high-performning current starting five to move forward, intact. Perhaps the cream will rise to the top.

How about Adam Wainwright? He’s reached the level of Carp in wanting to see him on the hill and watch him compete.

by bgh on Apr 22, 2008 9:27 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Plus

It gives Mo more time to see what deals can be made for the glut of pitching (and outfielders) that the Cards have.

by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Apr 22, 2008 9:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Mulder, Jaime Garcia

Good pitching going on down there in Springfield.

Garcia – 10 K’s in 8 IP…wowza.

I hate the way that the Post characterized the Mulder “news.” The guy is rehabbing from a 2nd rotator cuff repair. I completely agree with Tony and LB…lay off the guy will ya? What is the damn rush?

by silent_bob on Apr 22, 2008 9:37 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

glad you mentioned jaime garcia

he’ll be at triple A before long. he now has 29 strikeouts in 23 innings this year, and 126 ks in 126 double A innings including last year. seems to me he’s mastered that level; they might want him to take another 3 or 4 starts down there, but he’s ready for the next challenge.

for what it’s worth, mike parisi got promoted to AAA after 151 innings at double A. boggs threw 152 innings at double A. wainwright threw 150 innings at that level. reyes threw just 74 innings there (it’s probably now considered a mistake that he was promoted so rapidly). once garcia hits the 150-inning threshold (another 4 or 5 starts), he’s moving up.

by lboros on Apr 22, 2008 9:52 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Watched him in Frisco

A couple starts ago and he was shaky early throwing a lot of pitches but settled down. Looks like he has some pretty good heat but their stadium gun wasn’t on.

I guess what I’m saying is I have nothing intelligent to add but he looked good.

by paposse on Apr 22, 2008 10:22 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I'm just happy to see

he’s back to his old self…I love to see the k’s, but I’m especially psyched to see the line of “8 IP.” Every time I see “elbow strain” or “forearm strain” I cringe and expect the worst.

He’s healthy, I’m happy.

by silent_bob on Apr 22, 2008 10:25 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Pitching Probables

Why, on the official site, are the next three games, after today, listed as TBD? My wife is in Pittsburgh as is going to the game and wants to know who is starting. I told her it should be Joel…but the TBD makes me wonder. Friday’s game does list Wagonmaker. It’s just odd.

by Harknights on Apr 22, 2008 10:01 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

friday?

shouldn’t it be saturday, on 4 days rest?

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Apr 22, 2008 10:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I guess if today is tuesday

and add three days of TBD that would make Wagonmaker pitching on Saturday

by Harknights on Apr 22, 2008 10:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

fwiw

espn has:
tonight – lohse v. parra
wednesday – wellemeyer v. snell
thursday – piniero v. gorzellany
friday – looper v. chacon
saturday – wainwright v. oswalt
sunday – lohse v. backe

makes sense, everyone is on normal rotation with the lack of off days.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Apr 22, 2008 10:11 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

my bad

day game today, 12:05 CT.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Apr 22, 2008 10:12 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Wainwright vs. Oswalt is a must see…..but it’s a day game on Saturday and will be blacked out nationally because of Fox.

by ncgostl on Apr 22, 2008 12:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Im pretty sure

That last week was the only Cardinal game that will not be broadcasted in the local area.

by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 12:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Friends and I

made the trip to MIL from Chicago to see the game last night.

That at bat by Glaus was the best one of the night for either team. We were worried that Adam “6-4-3” Kennedy wasn’t going to get the job done, but he was able to lift one to the outfield.

Solid close by Izzy as well. We were placing bets on how many baserunners he would allow. None of us picked zero…..we were cursing Franklin in the eighth though.

Highlight of the night: our seats were behind home plate. When Wainwright came to the mound in the bottom of the first to throw his warm-up tosses, the stadium was pretty quiet. I shouted, “Alright Wagonmaker!” Adam looked up from the rosin bag to our direction and gave a little wave. My friend verified that Adam was actually waving and not just making some kind of ambiguous motion related to his routine.

I felt like a little kid again.

Pretty good ballgame to watch, all around. I’m now 2-0 in Cards games at Miller.

P.S. Duncan’s catch in the first was ugly. Real ugly

"Chokes it hard down on the knob from the right side. Stands erect deep in the box."

by arch support on Apr 22, 2008 10:09 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Better a ugly out

then a ugly error. It still became a web gem for ESPN. Duncan has the worst feetwork of any outfielder I’ve ever seen, He looks so uncomfortable. That said, he’s there for his bat, not his feet.

by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Apr 22, 2008 10:27 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Oops

didn’t see your comment about the web gem. They were giving him props for doing a good job at feeling for the wall and then making an adjustment to catch the ball. shrugs

by saladdays on Apr 22, 2008 10:47 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

It's justifiable as a web gem just for being so ugly, yet still ending up with a successful play

"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams

by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 12:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I agree. It's his herky jerky

movements BEFORE catching a ball that drives people crazy. It is my contention that for the vast majority of fans, it is not possible to objectively judge his defense by watching him. It is very very hard to ignore his jarring footwork when making a judgment. As a result he has a reputation that is worse than his actual results.

Does that mean he’s a good defender? Not necessarily. But we should try harder to weigh his function and we should put less weight on his form.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 22, 2008 11:17 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

does this mean there is some kind of weird balance between Dunc Jr. and Izturis?

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 22, 2008 1:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Duncan's catch

made the top plays part of Baseball Tonight…

by saladdays on Apr 22, 2008 10:45 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

it was a really bad play

with a really good ending. He misplayed it. But made a nice catch at the end. (looked ugly, but that will happen when jumping backward and snagging a ball like that.)

by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 10:52 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

so that was you...

our seats were 20 rows up, surrounded by cards fans. I heard someone yell wagonmaker last night, but i had my head down. Had to explain the significance to my wife. The fact that he heard you and acknowledged it is even better.

I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.

by _pistol_ on Apr 22, 2008 11:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I was up in 217

With my GF and parents. My section was going to win some baseball cards if Hart stole a base. I felt the need to point out Yadi’s stats at throwing out steals and also had that article from VEB to give a little lesson on when the last time two teams batted the pitcher 8th to my family.

The most frustrating thing in the evening was when the home crowd got up on its feet and clapped and cheered as Ludwick fell to allow the tying run to score. In the end it all worked out though. I was secretly hoping they’d do a squeeze to get Barton home but a hit is just as good.

Anyone know if Glaus really tagged the guy at 3rd out when Yadi threw to him?

by dontEATnachos on Apr 22, 2008 11:22 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Based on the TV replay...

Glaus missed him, barely... It looked as if he’d brought the tag straight down, Troy woulda had the runner, but missed him with the “swipe” tag. My take is a blatant “second-guess”... most infielders use a “swipe” tag by reflex to avoid possible injury.

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Apr 22, 2008 11:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

mather

Any word on how soon he’ll be back at Memphis.

What do you think the chances are next year’s infield being: Mather, Ryan, Hoffpauir, Albert?

by paposse on Apr 22, 2008 10:27 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

I thought Mather

is being groomed for the outfield? Freese seems solid for 3b.

by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Apr 22, 2008 10:29 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

glaus?

don’t we have glaus signed thru 2009? i’d hate to essentially give him away. he’s far better than his start this year indicates.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Apr 22, 2008 11:01 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

My bad

For some reason I was thinking it was a one and done deal.

by paposse on Apr 22, 2008 11:50 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

I believe it's a player option

that he activated as a condition of waiving his no-trade

"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams

by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 12:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

It was also guaranteed when he chose not

to opt out of his contract (an option he had because of the way contracts were setup when he signed it).

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 12:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

You really haven't been

exposed to Tony LaRussa for very long, have you?

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 22, 2008 11:18 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

looking at the OF

your premise is poor

I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.

by _pistol_ on Apr 22, 2008 11:20 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

No, it isn't.

Barton is the only guy in the OF that TLR has not had a long time to get used to and to accept as a player. Now if his top 4 OFs included two rookies who weren’t with the team last year it would be different.

But to propose that TLR would put half of his infield in the hands of two rookies plus a guy he clearly would rather be without (Ryan) is a million-to-one shot.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 22, 2008 11:25 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

does this

Tony hates rookies thing ever going to stop? It’s just old and tired.

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by beanocook on Apr 22, 2008 11:35 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   1 recs

You are miscategorizing my

comment, perhaps I let brevity get the better of clarity. I don’t think “Tony hates rookies,” that would be foolish and I’ve never believed it. It’s also a useless generalization because, as you know, there are rookies (Luis Ordaz) and there are rookies (Albert Pujols).

But he does hold rookies to very high standards, and I think it’s clear his tolerance for the kinds of things rookies do (make rookie mistakes, play inconsistently, struggle as they learn how to play in the ML) is pretty low when he can plug in a reliable if unexciting veteran. I do not think it’s impossible that Hoffpaur might be our 2B in 2009, for instance.

Having said all that, however, I simply cannot imagine TLR putting all of the players in question on the field at once in 2009 (Mather-Ryan-Hoffpaur). And let’s face it, none of them are gonna hit the majors like Nomar Garciaparra or Fred Lynn. That level of uncertainty would probably make his head explode. In other words, in TLR’s world, rookies are a condiment, not a staple. I think that is a pretty uncontroversial statement.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 22, 2008 12:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

And he hated the hell out of Joe McEwing and Placido Polanco

"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams

by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 12:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Well that's true

But there have been a few times where he has used the young guys.

Heck it could happen this year if there is an injury. I’m not saying they would be instant greatness, would just be neat to see 4 guys playing the infield who were homegrown, with Skip, Ank and Dunc in the outfield, Yadi behind the plate…. it would really say something about the farm.

Or maybe it would just be a neat thing to point out. It’s all good.

by paposse on Apr 22, 2008 11:54 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

What happened with Carpenter

yesterday. He was supposed to throw BP at Palm Beach and I haven’t been able to find anything on it yet. Anybody have any info for us?

by DJ4508 on Apr 22, 2008 11:03 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

BP went as expect

Mo said he threw fine.

by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 11:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Postgame

On last night’s FSN postgame they said that Carp threw 20 pitches to hitters and that his effort was good and he reported no pain or discomfort.

by indakind on Apr 22, 2008 11:08 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

What type of timetable for Carp?

Pineiro-like? Mulder-like? In between?

by bgh on Apr 22, 2008 11:09 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

see my
diary fanpost for details…

by silent_bob on Apr 22, 2008 11:33 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

Your fanpost is great

Unfortunately, the Cardinal brass have shown a tendancy to rush pitchers (Mulder, Pineiro), so I was wondering how you think the organization will handle Carp.

by bgh on Apr 22, 2008 11:55 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i agree

santa glaus’s at bat in the 8th was amazing to watch. after that first swing and miss i just knew something bad was going to happen but watching him lay off that 2-2 ptich makes me think he is really seeing pitches better and starting to come around.

by Wizard24 on Apr 22, 2008 11:14 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

It's VERY comforting to me

that we lost Rolen and we still have good infield defense. I was worried about that (though most people pointed out the SS position should definitely improve).

So WTF is with our team OPS? Is this McRae’s doing? Is it just something similar to what I read about the White Sox camp this spring – they just stressed working the count?

by sdrone on Apr 22, 2008 11:27 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

Bad-Tempered RANT...

I felt this way both during and immediately after last night’s game, but decided NOT to comment… since I’m still ticked after a good night’s sleep, I decided I’d share my pique with the community…

Who the Hell designed the lights at Miller Park, and why hasn’t the problem been corrected???

At least on TV, “Near-Beer Park” looks almost as ugly as Shea Stadium… and the Mets may be able to save money next season by just letting that dump fall down when they move next door, instead of having to “demolish” it! I hope it’s warm enough this afternoon that they can open the roof; some poor outfielder’s gonna get killed out there at this rate!

The infield’s bad, the outfield’s bad… I know the Cardinals are still “tweaking” Busch III to make the field as good as possible (Lake DeWitt being another problem entirely), but “Near-Beer” was built before Busch III… you’d think the good burghers of Milwaukee would have the “playability” problems solved by now!

(Grumble, mutter, grump… we now return you to your regular baseball comments!)

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Apr 22, 2008 11:31 AM EDT reply reply   0 recs

miller park

Is a joke. It was a very pleasant 60 degrees at game time but they had to have the roof closed. Memo to Brewers: People here in Milwaukee are used to rough weather. We wait what seems like 9 months for some decent weather. 60 degrees is decent. Yet we have to keep the roof closed??

Heck, it was 70 in Madison yesterday and co-eds were all over the place in bikinis—not that I noticed. Anyway, sorry about my Miller Park/Brewer rant.

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by beanocook on Apr 22, 2008 11:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

agreed

my best friend from college is a huge brewers fan, and complains about them keeping the roof closed all the time. i can understand it on a rainy/snowy day, but a sunny, 65 degree day? makes no sense.

that said, all domes seem to me like their lights are weird when they’re closed.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Apr 22, 2008 11:45 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

i was talking to a brewers fan in the parking lot last night

FWIW: his explanation for keeping it closed had to do with the less-than-reliable retraction mechanisms. apparently it frequently jams and stalls. They only open the roof when they are absolutely certain there will be no need to close it.

I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.

by _pistol_ on Apr 22, 2008 12:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs

It's for the sausages

The conditions have to be optimum for the sausage race at the South African Brewery Park. Otherwise the sausages will knock themselves over. On Randall Simon bat night they don’t worry about it as much.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Apr 22, 2008 11:53 AM EDT to parent up reply reply   0 recs