Game 21 Open Thread: April 22, 2008
by lboros on Apr 22, 2008 8:58 AM EDT
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| Lohse | Parra |
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stat of the day: albert pujols has seen more balls this year --- 166, or 54 percent --- than strikes (143, or 46 percent). from 2001-07 he saw strikes about 58 percent of the time, and never less than 56 percent strikes in any given year. for the sake of comparison, from 2001-03 barry bonds only saw strikes 46 of the time and averaged 175 walks a year (albert’s on pace for ~140 walks). in 2004, when bonds drew 232 walks, only 40 percent of the pitches thrown to him were strikes. . . . last night was albert’s second 3-walk game of the season, and we’re just 20 games in. he’s never had more than three 3-walk games in a single year. . . . .
ryan ludwick’s misadventure in the 8th inning last night got me curious about the overall play of the cards’ outfield defense. you may recall that i wrote a post last month about the sharp sag in the cardinals’ fly-catching ability in 2007. how are they faring so far in 2008? by the numbers, much better. the outfielders have chased 166 catchable flyballs so far (ie, flyballs minus home runs) and put 119 of them away, a 72 percent rate --- that’s about average. but they were well below average last year (only caught 67 percent of the catchable flyballs), so mere competency from the outfielders is a big improvement.
the infield defense, on the other hand, remains outstanding: through 20 games the cardinals are the best in the league at turning groundballs into outs. opponents are batting .177 on groundballs, vs a leaguewide average of .222. that means the cardinal infield has saved 12 base hits over an average team, or about 9 runs ---- nearly half a run a game. the cardinals are a full run a game better than average at run prevention so far (3.55 runs allowed / game, vs a league average of 4.53); if the defense accounts for about half of that savings, then the pitchers get the rest of the credit. they have walked the fewest men in the league (56) and allowed the second-fewest homers (14). avoid free passes, keep it in the park, keep it on the ground . . . . . perfectly executed pitch-to-contactism. but those of us who like strikeouts also have reason to cheer --- the cards’ strikeout total is nearly average this year. they rank 10th in the league in that category, with 6.4 k/9 --- haven’t ranked that high since 2004.
the pitchers’ strong start is probably the main reason the cards are talking such sense about mulder’s return. in 2006 and 07 they were panicky with him, rushing him back (with disastrous results) because they hated the available options (i.e. reyes). but the rhetoric from tony in today’s paper about mulder is refreshingly sensible: "He needs to come up not in a process of rehabbing" (emphasis added). amen. mulder’s rehab assignment began april 15 and can run 30 days, so the team doesn’t have to make any change at all until may 15 --- three more weeks. we’ll know a lot more about mulder by then, but more important we’ll know more about todd wellemeyer, braden looper, and joel pineiro --- as well as (vain hope) anthony reyes. . . . . .
impressions at random:
- i was extremely impressed by glaus’s at-bat in the 8th inning against guillermo mota. a quick re-set: the score was tied 2-2; ludwick was on 3d after hart’s 3-base error; pujols was on 1st (after an ibb), and there was one out (ankiel had popped out just ahead of glaus). troy looked terrible on the first pitch, swung at a changeup way out of the zone; he fell behind 0-2 and you and i and all of us were thinking he was gonna strike out and the cards were gonna fail to get that damn runner home from 3d. glaus barely stayed alive by fouling off on an 0-2 change (the 3d one he’d seen in that at-bat); mota wasted a couple of fastballs to set him up, then came back with a changeup at the knees on 2-2, hoping to get a groundball (and an inning-ending DP), but glaus recognized the pitch and laid off. mota came back with another on 3-2; glaus recognized it again and didn’t bite. it was glaus’s first at-bat against mota since 2005 --- he hasn’t seen the guy’s pitches in quite some time. so he made a hell of a quick adjustment to avoid a costly out. kennedy’s sac fly ensued, but glaus’s walk was easily the best at-bat in that inning --- the only truly good one in a "rally" that essentially consisted of two fly balls (one misplayed for an error, one caught for a sac fly).
- wainwright relied on his 3d-best pitch, the slider, to escape trouble in the 7th inning --- both kendall and hardy grounded out on it. the curveball deserted adam that inning --- he threw 6 of them, and 5 missed the strike zone. but 3 of the misses were probably quasi-intentional --- they came against rickie weeks, and adam seemed to be pitching around him to get to jj hardy, who hasn’t hit a ball out of the infield vs wainwright this year (0 hits in 7 tries --- 3 groundouts, 2 pop ups, 2 strikeouts).
- here’s one of those little splits that is not predictive --- ie, we shouldn’t count on the trend to continue --- but is mildly descriptive: the cardinal hitters in 2008 have been the most productive in the league in innings 7 through 9. that split comes courtesy of Baseball-Reference. through the first 20 games they’re hitting .302 / .392 / 493 in the final 3 innings. the cardinals have played most of their games to date against three of the league’s weakest bullpens (milwaukee san francisco and houston), which is one reason we shouldn’t expect them to keep this up.
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Re: Wainwright
That’s what makes him a servicable Ace. (Not saying he won’t be one of the leagues best pitchers this time next year. Just that he isn’t there yet.) When his best pitch isn’t working, he can use his other pitches and still get through an inning. That and; when he has an inning like the 3rd; he comes back and strikes out the next two guys and gets a 1-2-3 inning.
Can people please remember how good our infield defense has been so far when they are talking about Izturis being a bust; Glaus not being named Rolen; and when Kennedy doesn’t make a prefect throw.
by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 9:23 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A .524 OPS isn't a bust?
No level of defense can compensate for such a hole in the lineup. Our pitchers have a .473 OPS (and San Fran’s have an OPS of .550). He has earned his slot in the #9 spot.
by bgh on Apr 22, 2008 9:38 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im not saying it's good.
Or even that I wouldn’t rather have Ryan playing SS by mid season. But when you pay a guy for his defense you need to judge his contract buy his Defensive play. If we were paying him for his bat I would take a different look at it. Besides. At least he can lay down the sac bunt right?
by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 9:51 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Can't hit or bunt
First of all, I appreciate your bunting comment. Quite humorous, especially given TLR lauding that as one of his tangible offensive skills during Spring Training. I don’t mean to rag on you, but it is not 1987 and Mendoza-level offensive production, not matter the defensive skill, is simply unacceptable.
Your comment presupposes that we should be paying him at all and that he should have a roster spot on any MLB club. Second of all, you can’t pay one of eight everyday offensive regulars on a National League roster based solely on defense. When one slot in the batting order is filled by the pitcher, you cannot afford to allow another black hole to sap your offense. That is what the Cardinals have done with Izturis. No matter how good, or even transcendent, his defense is, it does not and cannot justify his being in the lineup with his woeful offensive production.
I know that there are no other options with Ryan on rehab. (I don’t consider Miles an option at SS.) So, we are stuck with him and forced to look at the silver lining on the storm cloud that is Izturis: his defense. But lets keep in mind, when doing so, that the 9 runs prevented so far are by the infield defense as a whole, not merely by the SS. His runs prevented on defense do not offset his runs prevented on offense by his awful offense.
by bgh on Apr 22, 2008 11:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
you missed my ...
Sarcasim about the bunting.
Anyway. I just don’t think you can apply a label of Bust to a guy when you are getting what you paid for. Izturis has been as advertised. It’s not like we thought we were getting a lifetime .286/.390/.590 guy here.
by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 11:13 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
any
Arguing over label “bust” is silly. So im going to stop here. I too want to see someone with more offense than Izturis has shown so far.
by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 11:19 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Sarcasm
I completely got it, which is why i found it humorous, especially in the wake of TLR’s preseason comments touting his bunting ability. I thought it was great.
You’re right about him being a “bust.” Being a “bust,” insinuates that there was hope he would not have an OPS lower than that of the Dodger and D-Back pitchers. His awful offense is not even remotely a surprise, which is why his receiving $2.85M in guaranteed money and a roster spot is so galling.
We are in agreement, then. Why were we even arguing? :)
by bgh on Apr 22, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pitching
The shift in tone toward Mulder is wonderfully heartening. After the rush with Pineiro, I feared they had learned nothing from the Mulder debacles (and, maybe they haven’t for pitchers not named “Mulder”). Nonetheless, it’s good to see that they are giving him more time and allowing the high-performning current starting five to move forward, intact. Perhaps the cream will rise to the top.
How about Adam Wainwright? He’s reached the level of Carp in wanting to see him on the hill and watch him compete.
by bgh on Apr 22, 2008 9:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Plus
It gives Mo more time to see what deals can be made for the glut of pitching (and outfielders) that the Cards have.
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Apr 22, 2008 9:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mulder, Jaime Garcia
Good pitching going on down there in Springfield.
Garcia – 10 K’s in 8 IP…wowza.
I hate the way that the Post characterized the Mulder “news.” The guy is rehabbing from a 2nd rotator cuff repair. I completely agree with Tony and LB…lay off the guy will ya? What is the damn rush?
by silent_bob on Apr 22, 2008 9:37 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
glad you mentioned jaime garcia
he’ll be at triple A before long. he now has 29 strikeouts in 23 innings this year, and 126 ks in 126 double A innings including last year. seems to me he’s mastered that level; they might want him to take another 3 or 4 starts down there, but he’s ready for the next challenge.
for what it’s worth, mike parisi got promoted to AAA after 151 innings at double A. boggs threw 152 innings at double A. wainwright threw 150 innings at that level. reyes threw just 74 innings there (it’s probably now considered a mistake that he was promoted so rapidly). once garcia hits the 150-inning threshold (another 4 or 5 starts), he’s moving up.
by lboros on Apr 22, 2008 9:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Watched him in Frisco
A couple starts ago and he was shaky early throwing a lot of pitches but settled down. Looks like he has some pretty good heat but their stadium gun wasn’t on.
I guess what I’m saying is I have nothing intelligent to add but he looked good.
by paposse on Apr 22, 2008 10:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'm just happy to see
he’s back to his old self…I love to see the k’s, but I’m especially psyched to see the line of “8 IP.” Every time I see “elbow strain” or “forearm strain” I cringe and expect the worst.
He’s healthy, I’m happy.
by silent_bob on Apr 22, 2008 10:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Pitching Probables
Why, on the official site, are the next three games, after today, listed as TBD? My wife is in Pittsburgh as is going to the game and wants to know who is starting. I told her it should be Joel…but the TBD makes me wonder. Friday’s game does list Wagonmaker. It’s just odd.
by Harknights on Apr 22, 2008 10:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
friday?
shouldn’t it be saturday, on 4 days rest?
go cards, o's, and phillies.
...boiler up.
by moboiler on Apr 22, 2008 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I guess if today is tuesday
and add three days of TBD that would make Wagonmaker pitching on Saturday
by Harknights on Apr 22, 2008 10:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fwiw
espn has:
tonight – lohse v. parra
wednesday – wellemeyer v. snell
thursday – piniero v. gorzellany
friday – looper v. chacon
saturday – wainwright v. oswalt
sunday – lohse v. backe
makes sense, everyone is on normal rotation with the lack of off days.
go cards, o's, and phillies.
...boiler up.
by moboiler on Apr 22, 2008 10:11 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wainwright vs. Oswalt is a must see…..but it’s a day game on Saturday and will be blacked out nationally because of Fox.
by ncgostl on Apr 22, 2008 12:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Im pretty sure
That last week was the only Cardinal game that will not be broadcasted in the local area.
by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 12:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Friends and I
made the trip to MIL from Chicago to see the game last night.
That at bat by Glaus was the best one of the night for either team. We were worried that Adam “6-4-3” Kennedy wasn’t going to get the job done, but he was able to lift one to the outfield.
Solid close by Izzy as well. We were placing bets on how many baserunners he would allow. None of us picked zero…..we were cursing Franklin in the eighth though.
Highlight of the night: our seats were behind home plate. When Wainwright came to the mound in the bottom of the first to throw his warm-up tosses, the stadium was pretty quiet. I shouted, “Alright Wagonmaker!” Adam looked up from the rosin bag to our direction and gave a little wave. My friend verified that Adam was actually waving and not just making some kind of ambiguous motion related to his routine.
I felt like a little kid again.
Pretty good ballgame to watch, all around. I’m now 2-0 in Cards games at Miller.
P.S. Duncan’s catch in the first was ugly. Real ugly
"Chokes it hard down on the knob from the right side. Stands erect deep in the box."
by arch support on Apr 22, 2008 10:09 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Better a ugly out
then a ugly error. It still became a web gem for ESPN. Duncan has the worst feetwork of any outfielder I’ve ever seen, He looks so uncomfortable. That said, he’s there for his bat, not his feet.
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Apr 22, 2008 10:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Oops
didn’t see your comment about the web gem. They were giving him props for doing a good job at feeling for the wall and then making an adjustment to catch the ball. shrugs
by saladdays on Apr 22, 2008 10:47 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's justifiable as a web gem just for being so ugly, yet still ending up with a successful play
"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams
by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I agree. It's his herky jerky
movements BEFORE catching a ball that drives people crazy. It is my contention that for the vast majority of fans, it is not possible to objectively judge his defense by watching him. It is very very hard to ignore his jarring footwork when making a judgment. As a result he has a reputation that is worse than his actual results.
Does that mean he’s a good defender? Not necessarily. But we should try harder to weigh his function and we should put less weight on his form.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 22, 2008 11:17 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
does this mean there is some kind of weird balance between Dunc Jr. and Izturis?
Ankiel is Jesus!
by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 22, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Duncan's catch
made the top plays part of Baseball Tonight…
by saladdays on Apr 22, 2008 10:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
it was a really bad play
with a really good ending. He misplayed it. But made a nice catch at the end. (looked ugly, but that will happen when jumping backward and snagging a ball like that.)
by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 10:52 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so that was you...
our seats were 20 rows up, surrounded by cards fans. I heard someone yell wagonmaker last night, but i had my head down. Had to explain the significance to my wife. The fact that he heard you and acknowledged it is even better.
I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.
by _pistol_ on Apr 22, 2008 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was up in 217
With my GF and parents. My section was going to win some baseball cards if Hart stole a base. I felt the need to point out Yadi’s stats at throwing out steals and also had that article from VEB to give a little lesson on when the last time two teams batted the pitcher 8th to my family.
The most frustrating thing in the evening was when the home crowd got up on its feet and clapped and cheered as Ludwick fell to allow the tying run to score. In the end it all worked out though. I was secretly hoping they’d do a squeeze to get Barton home but a hit is just as good.
Anyone know if Glaus really tagged the guy at 3rd out when Yadi threw to him?
by dontEATnachos on Apr 22, 2008 11:22 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Based on the TV replay...
Glaus missed him, barely... It looked as if he’d brought the tag straight down, Troy woulda had the runner, but missed him with the “swipe” tag. My take is a blatant “second-guess”... most infielders use a “swipe” tag by reflex to avoid possible injury.
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Apr 22, 2008 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
mather
Any word on how soon he’ll be back at Memphis.
What do you think the chances are next year’s infield being: Mather, Ryan, Hoffpauir, Albert?
by paposse on Apr 22, 2008 10:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I thought Mather
is being groomed for the outfield? Freese seems solid for 3b.
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Apr 22, 2008 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
glaus?
don’t we have glaus signed thru 2009? i’d hate to essentially give him away. he’s far better than his start this year indicates.
go cards, o's, and phillies.
...boiler up.
by moboiler on Apr 22, 2008 11:01 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
My bad
For some reason I was thinking it was a one and done deal.
by paposse on Apr 22, 2008 11:50 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I believe it's a player option
that he activated as a condition of waiving his no-trade
"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams
by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It was also guaranteed when he chose not
to opt out of his contract (an option he had because of the way contracts were setup when he signed it).
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You really haven't been
exposed to Tony LaRussa for very long, have you?
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 22, 2008 11:18 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
looking at the OF
your premise is poor
I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.
by _pistol_ on Apr 22, 2008 11:20 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it isn't.
Barton is the only guy in the OF that TLR has not had a long time to get used to and to accept as a player. Now if his top 4 OFs included two rookies who weren’t with the team last year it would be different.
But to propose that TLR would put half of his infield in the hands of two rookies plus a guy he clearly would rather be without (Ryan) is a million-to-one shot.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 22, 2008 11:25 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
does this
Tony hates rookies thing ever going to stop? It’s just old and tired.
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by beanocook on Apr 22, 2008 11:35 AM EDT up reply actions 1 recs
You are miscategorizing my
comment, perhaps I let brevity get the better of clarity. I don’t think “Tony hates rookies,” that would be foolish and I’ve never believed it. It’s also a useless generalization because, as you know, there are rookies (Luis Ordaz) and there are rookies (Albert Pujols).
But he does hold rookies to very high standards, and I think it’s clear his tolerance for the kinds of things rookies do (make rookie mistakes, play inconsistently, struggle as they learn how to play in the ML) is pretty low when he can plug in a reliable if unexciting veteran. I do not think it’s impossible that Hoffpaur might be our 2B in 2009, for instance.
Having said all that, however, I simply cannot imagine TLR putting all of the players in question on the field at once in 2009 (Mather-Ryan-Hoffpaur). And let’s face it, none of them are gonna hit the majors like Nomar Garciaparra or Fred Lynn. That level of uncertainty would probably make his head explode. In other words, in TLR’s world, rookies are a condiment, not a staple. I think that is a pretty uncontroversial statement.
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 22, 2008 12:44 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And he hated the hell out of Joe McEwing and Placido Polanco
"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams
by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 12:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well that's true
But there have been a few times where he has used the young guys.
Heck it could happen this year if there is an injury. I’m not saying they would be instant greatness, would just be neat to see 4 guys playing the infield who were homegrown, with Skip, Ank and Dunc in the outfield, Yadi behind the plate…. it would really say something about the farm.
Or maybe it would just be a neat thing to point out. It’s all good.
by paposse on Apr 22, 2008 11:54 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What happened with Carpenter
yesterday. He was supposed to throw BP at Palm Beach and I haven’t been able to find anything on it yet. Anybody have any info for us?
by DJ4508 on Apr 22, 2008 11:03 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
BP went as expect
Mo said he threw fine.
by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 11:07 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Postgame
On last night’s FSN postgame they said that Carp threw 20 pitches to hitters and that his effort was good and he reported no pain or discomfort.
by indakind on Apr 22, 2008 11:08 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What type of timetable for Carp?
Pineiro-like? Mulder-like? In between?
by bgh on Apr 22, 2008 11:09 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
see my
by silent_bob on Apr 22, 2008 11:33 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Your fanpost is great
Unfortunately, the Cardinal brass have shown a tendancy to rush pitchers (Mulder, Pineiro), so I was wondering how you think the organization will handle Carp.
by bgh on Apr 22, 2008 11:55 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i agree
santa glaus’s at bat in the 8th was amazing to watch. after that first swing and miss i just knew something bad was going to happen but watching him lay off that 2-2 ptich makes me think he is really seeing pitches better and starting to come around.
by Wizard24 on Apr 22, 2008 11:14 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It's VERY comforting to me
that we lost Rolen and we still have good infield defense. I was worried about that (though most people pointed out the SS position should definitely improve).
So WTF is with our team OPS? Is this McRae’s doing? Is it just something similar to what I read about the White Sox camp this spring – they just stressed working the count?
by sdrone on Apr 22, 2008 11:27 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bad-Tempered RANT...
I felt this way both during and immediately after last night’s game, but decided NOT to comment… since I’m still ticked after a good night’s sleep, I decided I’d share my pique with the community…
Who the Hell designed the lights at Miller Park, and why hasn’t the problem been corrected???
At least on TV, “Near-Beer Park” looks almost as ugly as Shea Stadium… and the Mets may be able to save money next season by just letting that dump fall down when they move next door, instead of having to “demolish” it! I hope it’s warm enough this afternoon that they can open the roof; some poor outfielder’s gonna get killed out there at this rate!
The infield’s bad, the outfield’s bad… I know the Cardinals are still “tweaking” Busch III to make the field as good as possible (Lake DeWitt being another problem entirely), but “Near-Beer” was built before Busch III… you’d think the good burghers of Milwaukee would have the “playability” problems solved by now!
(Grumble, mutter, grump… we now return you to your regular baseball comments!)
"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra
by The Ol Goaler on Apr 22, 2008 11:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
miller park
Is a joke. It was a very pleasant 60 degrees at game time but they had to have the roof closed. Memo to Brewers: People here in Milwaukee are used to rough weather. We wait what seems like 9 months for some decent weather. 60 degrees is decent. Yet we have to keep the roof closed??
Heck, it was 70 in Madison yesterday and co-eds were all over the place in bikinis—not that I noticed. Anyway, sorry about my Miller Park/Brewer rant.
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by beanocook on Apr 22, 2008 11:37 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
my best friend from college is a huge brewers fan, and complains about them keeping the roof closed all the time. i can understand it on a rainy/snowy day, but a sunny, 65 degree day? makes no sense.
that said, all domes seem to me like their lights are weird when they’re closed.
go cards, o's, and phillies.
...boiler up.
by moboiler on Apr 22, 2008 11:45 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i was talking to a brewers fan in the parking lot last night
FWIW: his explanation for keeping it closed had to do with the less-than-reliable retraction mechanisms. apparently it frequently jams and stalls. They only open the roof when they are absolutely certain there will be no need to close it.
I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.
by _pistol_ on Apr 22, 2008 12:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
It's for the sausages
The conditions have to be optimum for the sausage race at the South African Brewery Park. Otherwise the sausages will knock themselves over. On Randall Simon bat night they don’t worry about it as much.
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by totalloser on Apr 22, 2008 11:53 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lineup today
skip
BBarton
albert
luddy
troyg
larue
miles
lohse
cesar
no rick, no yadi, no AK
I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!
by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 12:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ankiel has been sitting a lot lately
I know he hasn’t hit lately. But he has had some good ABs and has taken a good sure of walks. But that’s ok. I can’t complain about any of the outfielders they start.
by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 12:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
agreed
the only question to me is that AK is hitting hot right now.
I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!
by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 12:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That is true.
But he has been sitting a lot this year. I believe it has to do more with wanting to keep him healthy throughout the year than anything. Though I do not believe anyone has hinted as such.
by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 12:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
was it last Friday
that he had that akward run to the fence and decided at the last moment NOT to dive for the ball? Think he might have tweaked something?
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Apr 22, 2008 12:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He leads the team in AB
he’s been sitting less than any other player. I believe this will be the second game he’s missed this summer. And they’ll still probably use him as a PH.
TLR’s probably just sitting him against the lety.
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by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Miles has very good numbers ..
against Parra … that’s why he’s in … plus, of course, Kennedy usually doesn’t hit LHP well …
Rick is slumping and probably needs a day … plus, Luddy’s so hot how can you justify not starting him under the circumstances …I love seeing him behind Albert … hope he has another good day … he’s got great numbers against Parra …
Good line-up … Don’t understand why LaRue is in there … Yadi’s got good numbers against Parra too … He just must need a day off …
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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 12:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
When's the last day Yadi's had off?
I’m sure it has more to do with that than anything else.
by saladdays on Apr 22, 2008 12:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yadi
Sat out not long ago, but with the afternoon game after a night game, he’ll probably set alot of those out.
by SoonerfanTU on Apr 22, 2008 12:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sample sizes
Miles has 3 walks in 5 career plate appearances against Parra. How does that happen? I don’t think he has more than 3 walks against any other pitcher he’s ever faced…
by jdub176 on Apr 22, 2008 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I'd have given Puj or Glaus the day off
not likely to happen, I know but I wish TLR would stick to his guns and give these guys the days off he hinted he would.
I can’t be the only one that is screaming “please don’t get hurt” everytime Pu gets a base hit.
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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 12:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
What is the OF positioning?
Barton LF
Ludwick CF
Schumaker RF
Or switch Lud and Schu?
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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Schumaker in CF
Ludwick in RF
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by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Skip is in center ...
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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Bigggg props to my boy Franklin last nite!
The man did a fine job in the face of several breaks not going his way. I’m still waiting for him to “regress to his true self.”
Baseball's only fun if you're playing it, watching it, or thinking about it.
by Eckstreem on Apr 22, 2008 12:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
skip
will be an all star this year.
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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 12:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
For what?
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 12:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the Ballwin Athletic TBall League
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Apr 22, 2008 12:54 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe he'll play in the Taco Bell Celebrity All-Star
Softball game on the afternoon before the big game.
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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 1:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
For making
a full beard look so great with a shaved head.
"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver
by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 22, 2008 12:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lily is pitching for the Scubs, today ...
We have a chance to get back in 1st place …
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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pujols hit the living bejesus out of that ball.
by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i hate day games during the week.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
by SleepyCA on Apr 22, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I love them.
Gives me a reason to skip class and watch baseball.
by mynameistyler on Apr 22, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Class is for...
people who don’t love baseball.
by mynameistyler on Apr 22, 2008 1:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Heh
Top o’ the morning to you, west coast!
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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well trust me
He hit it about as hard as anyone can hit a baseball.
by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Only...
two feet off the ground and directly into a piece of leather.
by mynameistyler on Apr 22, 2008 1:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i love em!
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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
ATTN: Ryan Braun
Don’t leave the plate until the umpire makes his call. Umps hate that.
by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I gotta wonder if we have the worst fielding pitchers in the league...
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Apr 22, 2008 1:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
If Lohse...
keeps his glove to himself, Kennedy could have had a play on it.
by mynameistyler on Apr 22, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That wasn't really bad fielding
The ball just deflected off his mitt. It happens.
by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Meh
I have a hard time blaming the guy for trying to catch a ball hit right at him.
by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Call me crazy.
I like letting the guys paid to field the ball field the ball.
by mynameistyler on Apr 22, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
fielding
so, a pitcher who fields his position, shouldnt be?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Apr 22, 2008 1:41 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, that's right.
A pitcher should never make an attempt to play any ball ever. Not just ones that are difficult to make a play on at your feet while you’re falling down. Thank you.
by mynameistyler on Apr 22, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Mil TV guys
already whining about the strike zone
by FunkeeC on Apr 22, 2008 1:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lohse got some low strikes
Nothing that was outrageous, I thought.
by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the second to Braun was the only one I disagreed with
by Smokin Turkeys on Apr 22, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
that pitch was a ball
no question about it
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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 1:23 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Lohse looks miffed/upset/rattled ...
about something … don’t know if he’s just mad at himself for missing that ball (though it was hit pretty hard and it was a tough chance) or his pitches are working … hope he settles in …
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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"aren't", that is ....
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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:24 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
god
glaus cant buy a home run
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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
400 foot flyout
That was a towering flyout.
by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Nice throw by Hart
Where was Hall on that?
by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:29 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
That damn Aaron Miles
He produces for the simple joy of enraging me.
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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
"That's the only way you get off to a start like the Cardinals
have, have everyone contributing.”
Don’t we have like 2 more wins than the Brewers? And they are playing awful. I love how the Brewers announcers are basically saying that the only reason we doing as well as we are is because everyone on the 25 man roster is playing a top performance.
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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Batting the pitcher 8th
is pure genius.
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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
lohse
NICE!
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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow, lohse helps his cause
nice to see some luck fall our way
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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oh yeah!!!
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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
wow, prince looked terrible and fat on that one
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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Well, to be fair
Prince looks fat on every one…
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by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
K-Lo!
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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Beware the bats of the Cardinal pitchers!
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
so, um, er...eh
whens brendan ryan due back?
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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ryan's bat would be a major upgrade
over our current middle infield crew.
by gossard56 on Apr 22, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
+1
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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I doubt we would lose much on defense, either ...
a little, but not much …
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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Was Glaus' flyball against the wall?
anyone see it? how close to a HR was it? He’s hit a bunch off the wall for doubles lately and had a ton of LONG flyball outs too. Just needs to add another foot or two and the HRs will start coming.
by gossard56 on Apr 22, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It was on the warning track, about two steps in front of the wall ...
went about 403 … was in that craggy corner out there just left of dead center …
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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
By the way
Is Kyle Lohse the Brett Favre of MLB? In that his name looks like it’s spelled wrong given the pronunciation, like it should be “Loshe” or “Farve”?
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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
two others
Dwyane Wade
Jhonny Peralta
I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.
by _pistol_ on Apr 22, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
antawn jamison
i spell about as well as his mother
by UNCDubya on Apr 22, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
for crying out loud
how about chone figgins?
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on Apr 22, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Good ole' automatic out, Izturis ...
another rally killer … can’t we find someone who plays decent defense that can actually hit? ... it’s getting really painful to watch this guy …
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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Damnit ... I want Edgar back ...
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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
While we're at it
can we see what Mark Grudzielanek is up to nowadays?
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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Rent & Grudz So Far
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2008/4/21/446740/how-bad#comments
So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)
by Titus Pullo on Apr 22, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I was joking
But thanks for the update. It’s helpful for the people who act like scorned ex-girlfriends of former Cardinals.
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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
kendall
cant stand that 70’s porn star mustache hed got going on
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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Dude, look at the catcher we've got playing for us today
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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
lol
i stand corrected. maybe Kendal and Larue have shared some screen time together?
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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Its dissappointing that now that the Brewers are good
that all the fans are turning on Yost, Even though he has done some stupid things. guess thats just baseball though
by Smokin Turkeys on Apr 22, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
he pretty much single-handedly
cost them the pennant last year with his terrible bullpen management, poor use of player resources (hall and braun), and starting a stupid beanball war with STL, so I can’t really blame them.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
by SleepyCA on Apr 22, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Eephus?
51 mph, 20” break
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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i was about to comment on that! lol
i notice that and was wondering, WTF?
by gossard56 on Apr 22, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
there were several things very strange about that ab on gameday
how could pitch 3 have been a ball and pitch 4 have been a called strike? methinks some wires got crossed somewhere in the internets.
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on Apr 22, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
answer me this.
why is everyone still hating on skip? what more does he need to do?
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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Cure cancer and end the war in Iraq
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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 1:42 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
small sample size have any meaning to you?
by FunkeeC on Apr 22, 2008 1:43 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so we can't appreciate what he's done
simply because it’s a small sample size? If he was doing poorly, would it still be a small sample size?
He his 333 last year. Granted it wasn’t a full year but still. Oh and in case you didn’t catch it, him and Barton won us the game last night.
Oh but of course… small sample size.
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by stltrav09 on Apr 22, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, it means just cause he is doing very well so far
it does not mean this is his true talent level. Lets see what his stats say after 500 AB’s
by FunkeeC on Apr 22, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
who's hating on say hey skip?
i haven’t seen it. i think the issue is that ALL of our outfielders have been performing quite well at this early point in the season – actually, the consensus favorite, ankiel, has probably been the worst – so to the extent people disfavor one, it’s probably more about wishing others were in the lineup. for example, recently it seems like popular opinion here has been that ludwick needs more PT – and that’s gotta come from somewhere.
there’s also the fact that mclaughlin and tlr have been slurping his “gold glove” defense, which some of us just sort of laughed about.
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on Apr 22, 2008 1:45 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
I've always liked Skip
I think he’s a useful player. That said, he probably shouldn’t be starting on this team.
by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:45 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Me too
he’s provided many memorable Spring Trainings for me to share with my grandchildren one day.
"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon
by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 1:46 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the astronaut readies for launch
t-minus albert pujols
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on Apr 22, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Barton=Man Crush
I love Daric so much.
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
by joker24 on Apr 22, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
A's or STL
Are you talking about our Brian Barton, or the A’s Daric Barton?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Apr 22, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
see last night's game thread
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on Apr 22, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok, sorry
I was at work, and didnt get to see the game or thread. I was just a bit confused.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Apr 22, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The announcers kept calling Brian "Daric"
But I agree. That’s one nickname that is going to get confusing fast.
by effin fisk on Apr 22, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no worries
mclaughlin accidentally referred to barton as “daric” not once, but twice. we’ve added it to the list of potential nicknames.
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on Apr 22, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he's talking about our Daric Barton
thanks to dan last night
by bosman on Apr 22, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
ok!
good, i so thought i was imagining that. i watched the game on tivo.
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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:51 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
FYI
barton’s B-R page is available… someone from VEB should snap it up and make his nicknames known to the outside world.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
by SleepyCA on Apr 22, 2008 1:50 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Wouldn't it be awesome if
he turns out to have a better career than the real Daric?
by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 22, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Poo
Come on Albert. I want to see ‘In play – Runs”
by paposse on Apr 22, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
albert
amazing. automatic
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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:49 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Pujols way out in front of a curveball
Still smashes the ball through the hole on the left side. What a monster.
by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:50 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Say Hey Skip would have driven in two
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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
luddy
nice rbi
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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
luddy
nice! whoo!
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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Brewers announcers
just said, “it must be nice coming to the ball park when you’re him.” referring to El Hombre.
I love it!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Apr 22, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Le smash
Lud with a hit against a lefty. Die, reverse split!
by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ryan Studwick ladies nnd gentlemen
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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Parra has nightmares of Luddy.
and to top it off, Albert didn’t run into an out being overly aggressive! Hooray!
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by stltrav09 on Apr 22, 2008 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
whats up man
how bout skippy last night! WINNING THE GAME!
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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
come on santa glaus
i want a couple of presents
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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 1:52 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
LOL
thats the best yet. santa glaus, man too funny.
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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
manny parra is on the naughty list!
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on Apr 22, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
how bout
3 presents?
I’ll take some too!
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Apr 22, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Brewers have a pretty thin pen today right?
Parra nearing in on 60 pitches already..
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by stltrav09 on Apr 22, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
They're carrying 14 pitchers right now
so I don’t think that’s much of a problem
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by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
so safe!
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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Studwick needs to play EVERYDAY!
the guy hits righties even better!! OMG, is that possible?!
by gossard56 on Apr 22, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Word is
that Say Hey Skip was hired by a top-secret government agency due to his ability to hit lefties, righties AND aliens with third arms, making him a valuable asset on the playing field, as well as a valuable asset to the human race.
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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
dammit
dammit dammit dammit
they stole that present from us
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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Oquendo is far too aggressive
but Albert was safe
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Apr 22, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
that umpire
IS on the naughty list now.
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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
on the flip side,
I cant remember seeing Albert run that well in a long time.
by Smokin Turkeys on Apr 22, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
foot was in
but it was one of those stupid “ball beat him so he’s out” calls
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by stltrav09 on Apr 22, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Meh if it beats you by that much you deserve to be out, catcher has to be worried about getting plowed
Kind of a “rule” in the interest of safety to a degree.
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
by joker24 on Apr 22, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
never heard of that
I guess hook slides are useless then.
by enoscountry on Apr 22, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Hook slides are designed to miss the tag entirely #1...
But I’m not even saying it’s right/wrong but that’s how it’s always called. It’s a tough, tough call live and any doubt is going to go the fielder’s way when the ball beats the runner by that much.
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by joker24 on Apr 22, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
oh i know
just part of the game..
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by stltrav09 on Apr 22, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Once again, one of those things that could be trivially solved with instant replay
just put a stupid camera above the bag.
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by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
absolutely
and a 5th umpire in the press box to review the play in real time so there is no added delay.
And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...
by SleepyCA on Apr 22, 2008 2:08 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Get him home, Lawrence...
"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver
by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 22, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Hey Peter
Watch your cornhole
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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver
by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 22, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
larue
needs to go back to doing 70’s porn
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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i feel bad
for glaus he needs all the help he can get. thats his rbi
by huts04 on Apr 22, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
not really, he's not having trouble getting RBI's, he's having trouble getting HR's
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Apr 22, 2008 1:57 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Shannon is ticked
“you could see he was safe up here,”
Glaus deserves credit for getting the 1b after down 0-2.
by enoscountry on Apr 22, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I started laughing
when Shannon said “he can’t call balls and strikes correctly and now he can’t get the play at home right.”
by Ray Lankford on Apr 22, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Not to mention that he looked jammed on gameday
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by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 1:59 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Damn...we've had trouble breaking games open
this season.
by gossard56 on Apr 22, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, but
it should be 1st and third with one out and up 3-0
by saladdays on Apr 22, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
damn
we’re in a tight spot
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on Apr 22, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Fantastic movie
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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
woulda been
another run. no way they turn 2
by huts04 on Apr 22, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bad call
you have to actually tag the runner (as we learned last night) to get a guy out.
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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Good point about last night
I’d much rather the umps call it “right” than this whole “throw beats them” crap
by saladdays on Apr 22, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
sigh....5 hits and 2 walks in 2 innings
and only 2 runs
by gossard56 on Apr 22, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
3 innings
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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 up 3 down in the 1st inning
so all 5 hits and 2 walks were in 2 innings
by gossard56 on Apr 22, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pujols should be on dancing with the stars
he has the footwork down
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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Bad call aside...
That’s NOT the way to head home when the throw is coming. Pujols should be sliding to the outside of the plate right there.
by effin fisk on Apr 22, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Yeah
I was thinking the same thing. If he slides outside and touches the plate with his hand, he’s probably safe. Or, you know, safer. If that’s possible.
by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 2:02 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
no way
he shoulda been tagged. the glove was there and the hand takes longer. the catcher wasnt in bad position just took too long
by huts04 on Apr 22, 2008 2:04 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
You don't slide with your hand out
You away from the tag and reach out at the last moment to touch the back point of the plate. The throw was WAY inside the line, there’d be no way Kendall could get a tag on Pujols.
by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i know how it works
but there is no way he wouldnt have tagged him in that situation. kendall was standing next to the plate not in a bad position. he wasnt in front of the plate either. i just dont think that would’ve helped at all. pujols saw that and knew he had to sneak in quick because he had the position
by huts04 on Apr 22, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
DP
lets see one right here.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Apr 22, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Off topic
The Miami Dolphins have taken Michigan OT Jake Long with the fist pick in the draft
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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Ludwick needs to be a full time starter
and Ryan should be hitting 9th
by gossard56 on Apr 22, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
crap.
win some your Lohse some.
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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
omg
another time that unlucky stuff like the play at home might make lohse lose again
by huts04 on Apr 22, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Sorry everyone
I benched Braun in fantasy for the day. My bad.
by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
i kept him active...
but would have rather he went 0-4
by gossard56 on Apr 22, 2008 2:07 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
The Biggest Lohser
How long could we really expect Kyle Lohse to maintain this pace?
by mynameistyler on Apr 22, 2008 2:09 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
It is a 9-inning game
3 runs isn’t the end of the world. Nor the end of Lohse’s good pitching.
by effin fisk on Apr 22, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Yeah, seriously
ater last night, we really can’t be despondent abot a one run deficit in the third
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by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
No, I'm not saying that...
I’m just saying… the guy went unsigned until the last week of Spring. Don’t you think it’s a little unlikely that he’s pitching like an Ace when no one in the world wanted him?
by mynameistyler on Apr 22, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
hes always
shown signs of s great pitcher periodically, just hasnt maintained
by huts04 on Apr 22, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Well, yes and no
Nobody wanted him because he wanted a multiyear contract at about $8-10 million per year. His track record would suggest he’s not worth that.
Also, for what it’s worth, everyone’s always known that he’s got great stuff, but he just hasn’t put it together. I wonder if throwing more fastballs and curveballs is helping him this year.
by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
That's what he was looking for...
but that’s not what the Cardinals offered. I have a hard time believing the Cardinals were the only team offering him a 1 year deal all off-season and Spring Training. Teams in a better position than us, I’m sure.
by mynameistyler on Apr 22, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
he hasnt pitcher that bad
the Braun double is the only Xtra base hit
by Smokin Turkeys on Apr 22, 2008 2:11 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
And that wasn't on a bad pitch
Low and away, or so it looked on the replay
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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
alot of groundball singles
it will happen on once in a while
by Smokin Turkeys on Apr 22, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Lohse
Nobody freak out. 3 runs is not awful. If he gets a few more scoreless frames it’s still a quality start. Now when Reyes would give up 6 runs last year… that was awful.
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by BigMOman on Apr 22, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
uh, it's still awful any time a pitcher gives up the lead
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Apr 22, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Holding a lead?
Do you think that the number of runs we’re up by somehow plays a difference on the starting pitcher’s ability to get guys out?
I could understand the frustration with bullpen guys, who specialize in coming into the game for short bursts in specialized circumstances (closers, righty/lefty matchups, etc.). But a starting pitcher’s job is to go as deep as he can into a game while giving up as few runs as possible. If we’re up 1-0, and he coughs up 2 runs over 7 innings, you can hardly be mad at the guy for “giving up the lead.”
I don’t mean this as a personal attack of any kind. I just don’t think giving up three runs is a terrible crime, whether we’re ahead or behind.
by effin fisk on Apr 22, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
3 runs in 6 innings
is perfectly reasonable every outing from anyone. Besides, when we picked up Lohse we expected only an innings-eater. I’m ecstatic about what he’s giving us so far.
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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 2:14 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Our pitching staff sure hates to hold on to leads
boo cubs, hooray beer
by Raconteur on Apr 22, 2008 2:12 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
but our offense loves to get them back
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by BigMOman on Apr 22, 2008 2:13 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
wow our 6-9 is alltime sad today
doesnt get much worse then that group of 4
by gossard56 on Apr 22, 2008 2:13 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
sick....
Miles…..Pitcher…..Izturis…. we have got to find some middle infield production
by Timbo02 on Apr 22, 2008 2:15 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
brendan ryan
I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!
by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 2:15 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
brendan ryan is not that good! you act like we are waiting on Tulo to get back
by ICbirdfan on Apr 22, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Agreed
People are putting far too much stock in BR’s offense.
by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
its alot better then what we currently have
and we can add him for free
by gossard56 on Apr 22, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
the thing about Ryan is
We still dont know what he is yet, from what he has shown he could be an above average player. we know that Iz is an aging veteran who will never be an adaquate starter again.
by Smokin Turkeys on Apr 22, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
i will take izturis' current ops of .547,
add .100 so it’s .647, and ask you whether you take the over or the under at that point for brendan ryan.
hint: take the over.
e'rebuilding mang
by nycbirdo on Apr 22, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's not that bad, either ...
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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
He's Albert Pujols...
...compared to Izturis. And his defense is almost as good as well.
by indakind on Apr 22, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Somethine I never thought I'd say:
I wish we had Craig Counsell
Well who the hell can see forever?
by Alxfritz on Apr 22, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Something I never thought I'd say:
Go Mets!
by liam on Apr 22, 2008 2:19 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
pitch count
anybody have Parra’s total thus far?
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Apr 22, 2008 2:17 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
thanks
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Apr 22, 2008 2:18 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
Maybe we could get another Turnbow outing today
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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Wow he's lucky that ball stopped
or skippy would still be running
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by stltrav09 on Apr 22, 2008 2:19 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The only thing...
popping on that 2-1 swing was his back. Yeesh.
by mynameistyler on Apr 22, 2008 2:21 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
just like his swing on
strike 1. all upper body.
C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!
by yer dog first on Apr 22, 2008 2:22 PM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
barton got owned there
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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs