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Game 21 Open Thread: April 22, 2008

Lohse Parra
2-0, 1.48 1-1, 5.40

stat of the day: albert pujols has seen more balls this year --- 166, or 54 percent --- than strikes (143, or 46 percent). from 2001-07 he saw strikes about 58 percent of the time, and never less than 56 percent strikes in any given year. for the sake of comparison, from 2001-03 barry bonds only saw strikes 46 of the time and averaged 175 walks a year (albert’s on pace for ~140 walks). in 2004, when bonds drew 232 walks, only 40 percent of the pitches thrown to him were strikes. . . . last night was albert’s second 3-walk game of the season, and we’re just 20 games in. he’s never had more than three 3-walk games in a single year. . . . .

ryan ludwick’s misadventure in the 8th inning last night got me curious about the overall play of the cards’ outfield defense. you may recall that i wrote a post last month about the sharp sag in the cardinals’ fly-catching ability in 2007. how are they faring so far in 2008? by the numbers, much better. the outfielders have chased 166 catchable flyballs so far (ie, flyballs minus home runs) and put 119 of them away, a 72 percent rate --- that’s about average. but they were well below average last year (only caught 67 percent of the catchable flyballs), so mere competency from the outfielders is a big improvement.

the infield defense, on the other hand, remains outstanding: through 20 games the cardinals are the best in the league at turning groundballs into outs. opponents are batting .177 on groundballs, vs a leaguewide average of .222. that means the cardinal infield has saved 12 base hits over an average team, or about 9 runs ---- nearly half a run a game. the cardinals are a full run a game better than average at run prevention so far (3.55 runs allowed / game, vs a league average of 4.53); if the defense accounts for about half of that savings, then the pitchers get the rest of the credit. they have walked the fewest men in the league (56) and allowed the second-fewest homers (14). avoid free passes, keep it in the park, keep it on the ground . . . . . perfectly executed pitch-to-contactism. but those of us who like strikeouts also have reason to cheer --- the cards’ strikeout total is nearly average this year. they rank 10th in the league in that category, with 6.4 k/9 --- haven’t ranked that high since 2004.

the pitchers’ strong start is probably the main reason the cards are talking such sense about mulder’s return. in 2006 and 07 they were panicky with him, rushing him back (with disastrous results) because they hated the available options (i.e. reyes). but the rhetoric from tony in today’s paper about mulder is refreshingly sensible: "He needs to come up not in a process of rehabbing" (emphasis added). amen. mulder’s rehab assignment began april 15 and can run 30 days, so the team doesn’t have to make any change at all until may 15 --- three more weeks. we’ll know a lot more about mulder by then, but more important we’ll know more about todd wellemeyer, braden looper, and joel pineiro --- as well as (vain hope) anthony reyes. . . . . .

impressions at random:

  • i was extremely impressed by glaus’s at-bat in the 8th inning against guillermo mota. a quick re-set: the score was tied 2-2; ludwick was on 3d after hart’s 3-base error; pujols was on 1st (after an ibb), and there was one out (ankiel had popped out just ahead of glaus). troy looked terrible on the first pitch, swung at a changeup way out of the zone; he fell behind 0-2 and you and i and all of us were thinking he was gonna strike out and the cards were gonna fail to get that damn runner home from 3d. glaus barely stayed alive by fouling off on an 0-2 change (the 3d one he’d seen in that at-bat); mota wasted a couple of fastballs to set him up, then came back with a changeup at the knees on 2-2, hoping to get a groundball (and an inning-ending DP), but glaus recognized the pitch and laid off. mota came back with another on 3-2; glaus recognized it again and didn’t bite. it was glaus’s first at-bat against mota since 2005 --- he hasn’t seen the guy’s pitches in quite some time. so he made a hell of a quick adjustment to avoid a costly out. kennedy’s sac fly ensued, but glaus’s walk was easily the best at-bat in that inning --- the only truly good one in a "rally" that essentially consisted of two fly balls (one misplayed for an error, one caught for a sac fly).
  • wainwright relied on his 3d-best pitch, the slider, to escape trouble in the 7th inning --- both kendall and hardy grounded out on it. the curveball deserted adam that inning --- he threw 6 of them, and 5 missed the strike zone. but 3 of the misses were probably quasi-intentional --- they came against rickie weeks, and adam seemed to be pitching around him to get to jj hardy, who hasn’t hit a ball out of the infield vs wainwright this year (0 hits in 7 tries --- 3 groundouts, 2 pop ups, 2 strikeouts).
  • here’s one of those little splits that is not predictive --- ie, we shouldn’t count on the trend to continue --- but is mildly descriptive: the cardinal hitters in 2008 have been the most productive in the league in innings 7 through 9. that split comes courtesy of Baseball-Reference. through the first 20 games they’re hitting .302 / .392 / 493 in the final 3 innings. the cardinals have played most of their games to date against three of the league’s weakest bullpens (milwaukee san francisco and houston), which is one reason we shouldn’t expect them to keep this up.

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Re: Wainwright

That’s what makes him a servicable Ace. (Not saying he won’t be one of the leagues best pitchers this time next year. Just that he isn’t there yet.) When his best pitch isn’t working, he can use his other pitches and still get through an inning. That and; when he has an inning like the 3rd; he comes back and strikes out the next two guys and gets a 1-2-3 inning.

Can people please remember how good our infield defense has been so far when they are talking about Izturis being a bust; Glaus not being named Rolen; and when Kennedy doesn’t make a prefect throw.

by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 9:23 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A .524 OPS isn't a bust?

No level of defense can compensate for such a hole in the lineup. Our pitchers have a .473 OPS (and San Fran’s have an OPS of .550). He has earned his slot in the #9 spot.

by bgh on Apr 22, 2008 9:38 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Im not saying it's good.

Or even that I wouldn’t rather have Ryan playing SS by mid season. But when you pay a guy for his defense you need to judge his contract buy his Defensive play. If we were paying him for his bat I would take a different look at it. Besides. At least he can lay down the sac bunt right?

by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 9:51 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can't hit or bunt

First of all, I appreciate your bunting comment. Quite humorous, especially given TLR lauding that as one of his tangible offensive skills during Spring Training. I don’t mean to rag on you, but it is not 1987 and Mendoza-level offensive production, not matter the defensive skill, is simply unacceptable.

Your comment presupposes that we should be paying him at all and that he should have a roster spot on any MLB club. Second of all, you can’t pay one of eight everyday offensive regulars on a National League roster based solely on defense. When one slot in the batting order is filled by the pitcher, you cannot afford to allow another black hole to sap your offense. That is what the Cardinals have done with Izturis. No matter how good, or even transcendent, his defense is, it does not and cannot justify his being in the lineup with his woeful offensive production.

I know that there are no other options with Ryan on rehab. (I don’t consider Miles an option at SS.) So, we are stuck with him and forced to look at the silver lining on the storm cloud that is Izturis: his defense. But lets keep in mind, when doing so, that the 9 runs prevented so far are by the infield defense as a whole, not merely by the SS. His runs prevented on defense do not offset his runs prevented on offense by his awful offense.

by bgh on Apr 22, 2008 11:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you missed my ...

Sarcasim about the bunting.

Anyway. I just don’t think you can apply a label of Bust to a guy when you are getting what you paid for. Izturis has been as advertised. It’s not like we thought we were getting a lifetime .286/.390/.590 guy here.

by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 11:13 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

any

Arguing over label “bust” is silly. So im going to stop here. I too want to see someone with more offense than Izturis has shown so far.

by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 11:19 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sarcasm

I completely got it, which is why i found it humorous, especially in the wake of TLR’s preseason comments touting his bunting ability. I thought it was great.

You’re right about him being a “bust.” Being a “bust,” insinuates that there was hope he would not have an OPS lower than that of the Dodger and D-Back pitchers. His awful offense is not even remotely a surprise, which is why his receiving $2.85M in guaranteed money and a roster spot is so galling.

We are in agreement, then. Why were we even arguing? :)

by bgh on Apr 22, 2008 11:45 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pitching

The shift in tone toward Mulder is wonderfully heartening. After the rush with Pineiro, I feared they had learned nothing from the Mulder debacles (and, maybe they haven’t for pitchers not named “Mulder”). Nonetheless, it’s good to see that they are giving him more time and allowing the high-performning current starting five to move forward, intact. Perhaps the cream will rise to the top.

How about Adam Wainwright? He’s reached the level of Carp in wanting to see him on the hill and watch him compete.

by bgh on Apr 22, 2008 9:27 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Plus

It gives Mo more time to see what deals can be made for the glut of pitching (and outfielders) that the Cards have.

by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Apr 22, 2008 9:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mulder, Jaime Garcia

Good pitching going on down there in Springfield.

Garcia – 10 K’s in 8 IP…wowza.

I hate the way that the Post characterized the Mulder “news.” The guy is rehabbing from a 2nd rotator cuff repair. I completely agree with Tony and LB…lay off the guy will ya? What is the damn rush?

by silent_bob on Apr 22, 2008 9:37 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

glad you mentioned jaime garcia

he’ll be at triple A before long. he now has 29 strikeouts in 23 innings this year, and 126 ks in 126 double A innings including last year. seems to me he’s mastered that level; they might want him to take another 3 or 4 starts down there, but he’s ready for the next challenge.

for what it’s worth, mike parisi got promoted to AAA after 151 innings at double A. boggs threw 152 innings at double A. wainwright threw 150 innings at that level. reyes threw just 74 innings there (it’s probably now considered a mistake that he was promoted so rapidly). once garcia hits the 150-inning threshold (another 4 or 5 starts), he’s moving up.

by lboros on Apr 22, 2008 9:52 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Watched him in Frisco

A couple starts ago and he was shaky early throwing a lot of pitches but settled down. Looks like he has some pretty good heat but their stadium gun wasn’t on.

I guess what I’m saying is I have nothing intelligent to add but he looked good.

by paposse on Apr 22, 2008 10:22 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm just happy to see

he’s back to his old self…I love to see the k’s, but I’m especially psyched to see the line of “8 IP.” Every time I see “elbow strain” or “forearm strain” I cringe and expect the worst.

He’s healthy, I’m happy.

by silent_bob on Apr 22, 2008 10:25 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pitching Probables

Why, on the official site, are the next three games, after today, listed as TBD? My wife is in Pittsburgh as is going to the game and wants to know who is starting. I told her it should be Joel…but the TBD makes me wonder. Friday’s game does list Wagonmaker. It’s just odd.

by Harknights on Apr 22, 2008 10:01 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

friday?

shouldn’t it be saturday, on 4 days rest?

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Apr 22, 2008 10:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess if today is tuesday

and add three days of TBD that would make Wagonmaker pitching on Saturday

by Harknights on Apr 22, 2008 10:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fwiw

espn has:
tonight – lohse v. parra
wednesday – wellemeyer v. snell
thursday – piniero v. gorzellany
friday – looper v. chacon
saturday – wainwright v. oswalt
sunday – lohse v. backe

makes sense, everyone is on normal rotation with the lack of off days.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Apr 22, 2008 10:11 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

my bad

day game today, 12:05 CT.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Apr 22, 2008 10:12 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wainwright vs. Oswalt is a must see…..but it’s a day game on Saturday and will be blacked out nationally because of Fox.

by ncgostl on Apr 22, 2008 12:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Im pretty sure

That last week was the only Cardinal game that will not be broadcasted in the local area.

by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 12:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Friends and I

made the trip to MIL from Chicago to see the game last night.

That at bat by Glaus was the best one of the night for either team. We were worried that Adam “6-4-3” Kennedy wasn’t going to get the job done, but he was able to lift one to the outfield.

Solid close by Izzy as well. We were placing bets on how many baserunners he would allow. None of us picked zero…..we were cursing Franklin in the eighth though.

Highlight of the night: our seats were behind home plate. When Wainwright came to the mound in the bottom of the first to throw his warm-up tosses, the stadium was pretty quiet. I shouted, “Alright Wagonmaker!” Adam looked up from the rosin bag to our direction and gave a little wave. My friend verified that Adam was actually waving and not just making some kind of ambiguous motion related to his routine.

I felt like a little kid again.

Pretty good ballgame to watch, all around. I’m now 2-0 in Cards games at Miller.

P.S. Duncan’s catch in the first was ugly. Real ugly

"Chokes it hard down on the knob from the right side. Stands erect deep in the box."

by arch support on Apr 22, 2008 10:09 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Better a ugly out

then a ugly error. It still became a web gem for ESPN. Duncan has the worst feetwork of any outfielder I’ve ever seen, He looks so uncomfortable. That said, he’s there for his bat, not his feet.

by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Apr 22, 2008 10:27 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oops

didn’t see your comment about the web gem. They were giving him props for doing a good job at feeling for the wall and then making an adjustment to catch the ball. shrugs

by saladdays on Apr 22, 2008 10:47 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's justifiable as a web gem just for being so ugly, yet still ending up with a successful play

"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams

by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 12:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I agree. It's his herky jerky

movements BEFORE catching a ball that drives people crazy. It is my contention that for the vast majority of fans, it is not possible to objectively judge his defense by watching him. It is very very hard to ignore his jarring footwork when making a judgment. As a result he has a reputation that is worse than his actual results.

Does that mean he’s a good defender? Not necessarily. But we should try harder to weigh his function and we should put less weight on his form.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 22, 2008 11:17 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

does this mean there is some kind of weird balance between Dunc Jr. and Izturis?

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 22, 2008 1:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Duncan's catch

made the top plays part of Baseball Tonight…

by saladdays on Apr 22, 2008 10:45 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it was a really bad play

with a really good ending. He misplayed it. But made a nice catch at the end. (looked ugly, but that will happen when jumping backward and snagging a ball like that.)

by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 10:52 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so that was you...

our seats were 20 rows up, surrounded by cards fans. I heard someone yell wagonmaker last night, but i had my head down. Had to explain the significance to my wife. The fact that he heard you and acknowledged it is even better.

I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.

by _pistol_ on Apr 22, 2008 11:07 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was up in 217

With my GF and parents. My section was going to win some baseball cards if Hart stole a base. I felt the need to point out Yadi’s stats at throwing out steals and also had that article from VEB to give a little lesson on when the last time two teams batted the pitcher 8th to my family.

The most frustrating thing in the evening was when the home crowd got up on its feet and clapped and cheered as Ludwick fell to allow the tying run to score. In the end it all worked out though. I was secretly hoping they’d do a squeeze to get Barton home but a hit is just as good.

Anyone know if Glaus really tagged the guy at 3rd out when Yadi threw to him?

by dontEATnachos on Apr 22, 2008 11:22 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Based on the TV replay...

Glaus missed him, barely... It looked as if he’d brought the tag straight down, Troy woulda had the runner, but missed him with the “swipe” tag. My take is a blatant “second-guess”... most infielders use a “swipe” tag by reflex to avoid possible injury.

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Apr 22, 2008 11:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

mather

Any word on how soon he’ll be back at Memphis.

What do you think the chances are next year’s infield being: Mather, Ryan, Hoffpauir, Albert?

by paposse on Apr 22, 2008 10:27 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I thought Mather

is being groomed for the outfield? Freese seems solid for 3b.

by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Apr 22, 2008 10:29 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

glaus?

don’t we have glaus signed thru 2009? i’d hate to essentially give him away. he’s far better than his start this year indicates.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Apr 22, 2008 11:01 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My bad

For some reason I was thinking it was a one and done deal.

by paposse on Apr 22, 2008 11:50 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I believe it's a player option

that he activated as a condition of waiving his no-trade

"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams

by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 12:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was also guaranteed when he chose not

to opt out of his contract (an option he had because of the way contracts were setup when he signed it).

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 12:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You really haven't been

exposed to Tony LaRussa for very long, have you?

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 22, 2008 11:18 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

looking at the OF

your premise is poor

I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.

by _pistol_ on Apr 22, 2008 11:20 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, it isn't.

Barton is the only guy in the OF that TLR has not had a long time to get used to and to accept as a player. Now if his top 4 OFs included two rookies who weren’t with the team last year it would be different.

But to propose that TLR would put half of his infield in the hands of two rookies plus a guy he clearly would rather be without (Ryan) is a million-to-one shot.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 22, 2008 11:25 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

does this

Tony hates rookies thing ever going to stop? It’s just old and tired.

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by beanocook on Apr 22, 2008 11:35 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

You are miscategorizing my

comment, perhaps I let brevity get the better of clarity. I don’t think “Tony hates rookies,” that would be foolish and I’ve never believed it. It’s also a useless generalization because, as you know, there are rookies (Luis Ordaz) and there are rookies (Albert Pujols).

But he does hold rookies to very high standards, and I think it’s clear his tolerance for the kinds of things rookies do (make rookie mistakes, play inconsistently, struggle as they learn how to play in the ML) is pretty low when he can plug in a reliable if unexciting veteran. I do not think it’s impossible that Hoffpaur might be our 2B in 2009, for instance.

Having said all that, however, I simply cannot imagine TLR putting all of the players in question on the field at once in 2009 (Mather-Ryan-Hoffpaur). And let’s face it, none of them are gonna hit the majors like Nomar Garciaparra or Fred Lynn. That level of uncertainty would probably make his head explode. In other words, in TLR’s world, rookies are a condiment, not a staple. I think that is a pretty uncontroversial statement.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 22, 2008 12:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And he hated the hell out of Joe McEwing and Placido Polanco

"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams

by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 12:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well that's true

But there have been a few times where he has used the young guys.

Heck it could happen this year if there is an injury. I’m not saying they would be instant greatness, would just be neat to see 4 guys playing the infield who were homegrown, with Skip, Ank and Dunc in the outfield, Yadi behind the plate…. it would really say something about the farm.

Or maybe it would just be a neat thing to point out. It’s all good.

by paposse on Apr 22, 2008 11:54 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What happened with Carpenter

yesterday. He was supposed to throw BP at Palm Beach and I haven’t been able to find anything on it yet. Anybody have any info for us?

by DJ4508 on Apr 22, 2008 11:03 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Postgame

On last night’s FSN postgame they said that Carp threw 20 pitches to hitters and that his effort was good and he reported no pain or discomfort.

by indakind on Apr 22, 2008 11:08 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What type of timetable for Carp?

Pineiro-like? Mulder-like? In between?

by bgh on Apr 22, 2008 11:09 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

see my
diary fanpost for details…

by silent_bob on Apr 22, 2008 11:33 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Your fanpost is great

Unfortunately, the Cardinal brass have shown a tendancy to rush pitchers (Mulder, Pineiro), so I was wondering how you think the organization will handle Carp.

by bgh on Apr 22, 2008 11:55 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i agree

santa glaus’s at bat in the 8th was amazing to watch. after that first swing and miss i just knew something bad was going to happen but watching him lay off that 2-2 ptich makes me think he is really seeing pitches better and starting to come around.

by Wizard24 on Apr 22, 2008 11:14 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's VERY comforting to me

that we lost Rolen and we still have good infield defense. I was worried about that (though most people pointed out the SS position should definitely improve).

So WTF is with our team OPS? Is this McRae’s doing? Is it just something similar to what I read about the White Sox camp this spring – they just stressed working the count?

by sdrone on Apr 22, 2008 11:27 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bad-Tempered RANT...

I felt this way both during and immediately after last night’s game, but decided NOT to comment… since I’m still ticked after a good night’s sleep, I decided I’d share my pique with the community…

Who the Hell designed the lights at Miller Park, and why hasn’t the problem been corrected???

At least on TV, “Near-Beer Park” looks almost as ugly as Shea Stadium… and the Mets may be able to save money next season by just letting that dump fall down when they move next door, instead of having to “demolish” it! I hope it’s warm enough this afternoon that they can open the roof; some poor outfielder’s gonna get killed out there at this rate!

The infield’s bad, the outfield’s bad… I know the Cardinals are still “tweaking” Busch III to make the field as good as possible (Lake DeWitt being another problem entirely), but “Near-Beer” was built before Busch III… you’d think the good burghers of Milwaukee would have the “playability” problems solved by now!

(Grumble, mutter, grump… we now return you to your regular baseball comments!)

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Apr 22, 2008 11:31 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

miller park

Is a joke. It was a very pleasant 60 degrees at game time but they had to have the roof closed. Memo to Brewers: People here in Milwaukee are used to rough weather. We wait what seems like 9 months for some decent weather. 60 degrees is decent. Yet we have to keep the roof closed??

Heck, it was 70 in Madison yesterday and co-eds were all over the place in bikinis—not that I noticed. Anyway, sorry about my Miller Park/Brewer rant.

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by beanocook on Apr 22, 2008 11:37 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

my best friend from college is a huge brewers fan, and complains about them keeping the roof closed all the time. i can understand it on a rainy/snowy day, but a sunny, 65 degree day? makes no sense.

that said, all domes seem to me like their lights are weird when they’re closed.

go cards, o's, and phillies.

...boiler up.

by moboiler on Apr 22, 2008 11:45 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i was talking to a brewers fan in the parking lot last night

FWIW: his explanation for keeping it closed had to do with the less-than-reliable retraction mechanisms. apparently it frequently jams and stalls. They only open the roof when they are absolutely certain there will be no need to close it.

I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.

by _pistol_ on Apr 22, 2008 12:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's for the sausages

The conditions have to be optimum for the sausage race at the South African Brewery Park. Otherwise the sausages will knock themselves over. On Randall Simon bat night they don’t worry about it as much.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Apr 22, 2008 11:53 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lineup today

skip
BBarton
albert
luddy
troyg
larue
miles
lohse
cesar

no rick, no yadi, no AK

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 12:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ankiel has been sitting a lot lately

I know he hasn’t hit lately. But he has had some good ABs and has taken a good sure of walks. But that’s ok. I can’t complain about any of the outfielders they start.

by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 12:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

agreed

the only question to me is that AK is hitting hot right now.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 12:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That is true.

But he has been sitting a lot this year. I believe it has to do more with wanting to keep him healthy throughout the year than anything. Though I do not believe anyone has hinted as such.

by Evilfrog on Apr 22, 2008 12:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

was it last Friday

that he had that akward run to the fence and decided at the last moment NOT to dive for the ball? Think he might have tweaked something?

by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Apr 22, 2008 12:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

He leads the team in AB

he’s been sitting less than any other player. I believe this will be the second game he’s missed this summer. And they’ll still probably use him as a PH.

TLR’s probably just sitting him against the lety.

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by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 1:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Miles has very good numbers ..

against Parra … that’s why he’s in … plus, of course, Kennedy usually doesn’t hit LHP well …

Rick is slumping and probably needs a day … plus, Luddy’s so hot how can you justify not starting him under the circumstances …I love seeing him behind Albert … hope he has another good day … he’s got great numbers against Parra …

Good line-up … Don’t understand why LaRue is in there … Yadi’s got good numbers against Parra too … He just must need a day off …

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 12:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When's the last day Yadi's had off?

I’m sure it has more to do with that than anything else.

by saladdays on Apr 22, 2008 12:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yadi

Sat out not long ago, but with the afternoon game after a night game, he’ll probably set alot of those out.

by SoonerfanTU on Apr 22, 2008 12:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sample sizes

Miles has 3 walks in 5 career plate appearances against Parra. How does that happen? I don’t think he has more than 3 walks against any other pitcher he’s ever faced…

by jdub176 on Apr 22, 2008 12:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'd have given Puj or Glaus the day off

not likely to happen, I know but I wish TLR would stick to his guns and give these guys the days off he hinted he would.

I can’t be the only one that is screaming “please don’t get hurt” everytime Pu gets a base hit.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 12:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What is the OF positioning?

Barton LF
Ludwick CF
Schumaker RF

Or switch Lud and Schu?

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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 1:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Schumaker in CF

Ludwick in RF

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by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 1:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Skip is in center ...

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bigggg props to my boy Franklin last nite!

The man did a fine job in the face of several breaks not going his way. I’m still waiting for him to “regress to his true self.”

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by Eckstreem on Apr 22, 2008 12:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

skip

will be an all star this year.

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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 12:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For what?

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 12:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Maybe he'll play in the Taco Bell Celebrity All-Star

Softball game on the afternoon before the big game.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 1:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For making

a full beard look so great with a shaved head.

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by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 22, 2008 12:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lily is pitching for the Scubs, today ...

We have a chance to get back in 1st place …

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pujols hit the living bejesus out of that ball.

by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i hate day games during the week.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on Apr 22, 2008 1:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heh

Top o’ the morning to you, west coast!

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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 1:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well trust me

He hit it about as hard as anyone can hit a baseball.

by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Only...

two feet off the ground and directly into a piece of leather.

by mynameistyler on Apr 22, 2008 1:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i love em!

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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:17 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ATTN: Ryan Braun

Don’t leave the plate until the umpire makes his call. Umps hate that.

by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That wasn't really bad fielding

The ball just deflected off his mitt. It happens.

by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Meh

I have a hard time blaming the guy for trying to catch a ball hit right at him.

by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Call me crazy.

I like letting the guys paid to field the ball field the ball.

by mynameistyler on Apr 22, 2008 1:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

fielding

so, a pitcher who fields his position, shouldnt be?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 22, 2008 1:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, that's right.

A pitcher should never make an attempt to play any ball ever. Not just ones that are difficult to make a play on at your feet while you’re falling down. Thank you.

by mynameistyler on Apr 22, 2008 1:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Mil TV guys

already whining about the strike zone

by FunkeeC on Apr 22, 2008 1:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lohse got some low strikes

Nothing that was outrageous, I thought.

by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that pitch was a ball

no question about it

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 1:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

I thought it was close, but either way he earned it by waltzing out of the box on the 3-0 pitch. That’ll expand the ump’s strike zone real quick.

by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lohse looks miffed/upset/rattled ...

about something … don’t know if he’s just mad at himself for missing that ball (though it was hit pretty hard and it was a tough chance) or his pitches are working … hope he settles in …

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:23 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"aren't", that is ....

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

god

glaus cant buy a home run

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

400 foot flyout

That was a towering flyout.

by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:25 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That damn Aaron Miles

He produces for the simple joy of enraging me.

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"That's the only way you get off to a start like the Cardinals

have, have everyone contributing.”

Don’t we have like 2 more wins than the Brewers? And they are playing awful. I love how the Brewers announcers are basically saying that the only reason we doing as well as we are is because everyone on the 25 man roster is playing a top performance.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Batting the pitcher 8th

is pure genius.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

lohse

NICE!

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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow, lohse helps his cause

nice to see some luck fall our way

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh yeah!!!

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:30 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow, prince looked terrible and fat on that one

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, to be fair

Prince looks fat on every one…

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by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 1:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Beware the bats of the Cardinal pitchers!

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so, um, er...eh

whens brendan ryan due back?

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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:31 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I doubt we would lose much on defense, either ...

a little, but not much …

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Was Glaus' flyball against the wall?

anyone see it? how close to a HR was it? He’s hit a bunch off the wall for doubles lately and had a ton of LONG flyball outs too. Just needs to add another foot or two and the HRs will start coming.

by gossard56 on Apr 22, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It was on the warning track, about two steps in front of the wall ...

went about 403 … was in that craggy corner out there just left of dead center …

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By the way

Is Kyle Lohse the Brett Favre of MLB? In that his name looks like it’s spelled wrong given the pronunciation, like it should be “Loshe” or “Farve”?

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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

two others

Dwyane Wade
Jhonny Peralta

I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.

by _pistol_ on Apr 22, 2008 1:56 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

for crying out loud

how about chone figgins?

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Apr 22, 2008 2:31 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good ole' automatic out, Izturis ...

another rally killer … can’t we find someone who plays decent defense that can actually hit? ... it’s getting really painful to watch this guy …

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:32 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Damnit ... I want Edgar back ...

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 22, 2008 1:33 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

While we're at it

can we see what Mark Grudzielanek is up to nowadays?

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 1:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was joking

But thanks for the update. It’s helpful for the people who act like scorned ex-girlfriends of former Cardinals.

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 2:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

kendall

cant stand that 70’s porn star mustache hed got going on

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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Its dissappointing that now that the Brewers are good

that all the fans are turning on Yost, Even though he has done some stupid things. guess thats just baseball though

by Smokin Turkeys on Apr 22, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he pretty much single-handedly

cost them the pennant last year with his terrible bullpen management, poor use of player resources (hall and braun), and starting a stupid beanball war with STL, so I can’t really blame them.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on Apr 22, 2008 1:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Eephus?

51 mph, 20” break

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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 1:38 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

there were several things very strange about that ab on gameday

how could pitch 3 have been a ball and pitch 4 have been a called strike? methinks some wires got crossed somewhere in the internets.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Apr 22, 2008 1:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

answer me this.

why is everyone still hating on skip? what more does he need to do?

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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so we can't appreciate what he's done

simply because it’s a small sample size? If he was doing poorly, would it still be a small sample size?

He his 333 last year. Granted it wasn’t a full year but still. Oh and in case you didn’t catch it, him and Barton won us the game last night.

Oh but of course… small sample size.

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by stltrav09 on Apr 22, 2008 1:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, it means just cause he is doing very well so far

it does not mean this is his true talent level. Lets see what his stats say after 500 AB’s

by FunkeeC on Apr 22, 2008 2:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

who's hating on say hey skip?

i haven’t seen it. i think the issue is that ALL of our outfielders have been performing quite well at this early point in the season – actually, the consensus favorite, ankiel, has probably been the worst – so to the extent people disfavor one, it’s probably more about wishing others were in the lineup. for example, recently it seems like popular opinion here has been that ludwick needs more PT – and that’s gotta come from somewhere.

there’s also the fact that mclaughlin and tlr have been slurping his “gold glove” defense, which some of us just sort of laughed about.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Apr 22, 2008 1:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've always liked Skip

I think he’s a useful player. That said, he probably shouldn’t be starting on this team.

by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:45 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Me too

he’s provided many memorable Spring Trainings for me to share with my grandchildren one day.

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 1:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

storytime

I’d like to hear the story behind this if you don’t mind.

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by stltrav09 on Apr 22, 2008 1:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Barton=Man Crush

I love Daric so much.

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Apr 22, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

A's or STL

Are you talking about our Brian Barton, or the A’s Daric Barton?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 22, 2008 1:48 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ok, sorry

I was at work, and didnt get to see the game or thread. I was just a bit confused.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 22, 2008 1:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The announcers kept calling Brian "Daric"

But I agree. That’s one nickname that is going to get confusing fast.

by effin fisk on Apr 22, 2008 1:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no worries

mclaughlin accidentally referred to barton as “daric” not once, but twice. we’ve added it to the list of potential nicknames.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Apr 22, 2008 1:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

ok!

good, i so thought i was imagining that. i watched the game on tivo.

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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:51 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

FYI

barton’s B-R page is available… someone from VEB should snap it up and make his nicknames known to the outside world.

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by SleepyCA on Apr 22, 2008 1:50 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wouldn't it be awesome if

he turns out to have a better career than the real Daric?

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 22, 2008 2:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Poo

Come on Albert. I want to see ‘In play – Runs”

by paposse on Apr 22, 2008 1:48 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

albert

amazing. automatic

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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:49 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Pujols way out in front of a curveball

Still smashes the ball through the hole on the left side. What a monster.

by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Say Hey Skip would have driven in two

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 1:52 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

luddy

nice rbi

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

luddy

nice! whoo!

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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brewers announcers

just said, “it must be nice coming to the ball park when you’re him.” referring to El Hombre.

I love it!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 22, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Le smash

Lud with a hit against a lefty. Die, reverse split!

by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 1:51 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Parra has nightmares of Luddy.

and to top it off, Albert didn’t run into an out being overly aggressive! Hooray!

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by stltrav09 on Apr 22, 2008 1:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

whats up man

how bout skippy last night! WINNING THE GAME!

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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

come on santa glaus

i want a couple of presents

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 1:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

LOL

thats the best yet. santa glaus, man too funny.

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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how bout

3 presents?

I’ll take some too!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 22, 2008 1:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Brewers have a pretty thin pen today right?

Parra nearing in on 60 pitches already..

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by stltrav09 on Apr 22, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

They're carrying 14 pitchers right now

so I don’t think that’s much of a problem

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by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 1:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

so safe!

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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Studwick needs to play EVERYDAY!

the guy hits righties even better!! OMG, is that possible?!

by gossard56 on Apr 22, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Word is

that Say Hey Skip was hired by a top-secret government agency due to his ability to hit lefties, righties AND aliens with third arms, making him a valuable asset on the playing field, as well as a valuable asset to the human race.

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 22, 2008 1:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

dammit

dammit dammit dammit

they stole that present from us

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 1:54 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oquendo is far too aggressive

but Albert was safe

boo cubs, hooray beer

by Raconteur on Apr 22, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that umpire

IS on the naughty list now.

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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

on the flip side,

I cant remember seeing Albert run that well in a long time.

by Smokin Turkeys on Apr 22, 2008 1:55 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

foot was in

but it was one of those stupid “ball beat him so he’s out” calls

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by stltrav09 on Apr 22, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Meh if it beats you by that much you deserve to be out, catcher has to be worried about getting plowed

Kind of a “rule” in the interest of safety to a degree.

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Apr 22, 2008 1:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

never heard of that

I guess hook slides are useless then.

by enoscountry on Apr 22, 2008 1:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hook slides are designed to miss the tag entirely #1...

But I’m not even saying it’s right/wrong but that’s how it’s always called. It’s a tough, tough call live and any doubt is going to go the fielder’s way when the ball beats the runner by that much.

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by joker24 on Apr 22, 2008 2:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oh i know

just part of the game..

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by stltrav09 on Apr 22, 2008 2:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Once again, one of those things that could be trivially solved with instant replay

just put a stupid camera above the bag.

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by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 2:07 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

absolutely

and a 5th umpire in the press box to review the play in real time so there is no added delay.

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by SleepyCA on Apr 22, 2008 2:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Get him home, Lawrence...

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by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 22, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey Peter

Watch your cornhole

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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 1:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 22, 2008 1:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

larue

needs to go back to doing 70’s porn

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by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 1:56 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Shannon is ticked

“you could see he was safe up here,”

Glaus deserves credit for getting the 1b after down 0-2.

by enoscountry on Apr 22, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I started laughing

when Shannon said “he can’t call balls and strikes correctly and now he can’t get the play at home right.”

by Ray Lankford on Apr 22, 2008 1:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Not to mention that he looked jammed on gameday

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by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 1:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

woulda been

another run. no way they turn 2

by huts04 on Apr 22, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bad call

you have to actually tag the runner (as we learned last night) to get a guy out.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 22, 2008 1:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good point about last night

I’d much rather the umps call it “right” than this whole “throw beats them” crap

by saladdays on Apr 22, 2008 2:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

pujols should be on dancing with the stars

he has the footwork down

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 22, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bad call aside...

That’s NOT the way to head home when the throw is coming. Pujols should be sliding to the outside of the plate right there.

by effin fisk on Apr 22, 2008 2:01 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

I was thinking the same thing. If he slides outside and touches the plate with his hand, he’s probably safe. Or, you know, safer. If that’s possible.

by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 2:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

no way

he shoulda been tagged. the glove was there and the hand takes longer. the catcher wasnt in bad position just took too long

by huts04 on Apr 22, 2008 2:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You don't slide with your hand out

You away from the tag and reach out at the last moment to touch the back point of the plate. The throw was WAY inside the line, there’d be no way Kendall could get a tag on Pujols.

by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 2:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i know how it works

but there is no way he wouldnt have tagged him in that situation. kendall was standing next to the plate not in a bad position. he wasnt in front of the plate either. i just dont think that would’ve helped at all. pujols saw that and knew he had to sneak in quick because he had the position

by huts04 on Apr 22, 2008 2:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

DP

lets see one right here.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 22, 2008 2:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Off topic

The Miami Dolphins have taken Michigan OT Jake Long with the fist pick in the draft

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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

crap.

win some your Lohse some.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 22, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

omg

another time that unlucky stuff like the play at home might make lohse lose again

by huts04 on Apr 22, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Sorry everyone

I benched Braun in fantasy for the day. My bad.

by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 2:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Biggest Lohser

How long could we really expect Kyle Lohse to maintain this pace?

by mynameistyler on Apr 22, 2008 2:09 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i agree

this is the 2008 Cards….keep it close and we often find a way to comeback

by gossard56 on Apr 22, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is a 9-inning game

3 runs isn’t the end of the world. Nor the end of Lohse’s good pitching.

by effin fisk on Apr 22, 2008 2:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah, seriously

ater last night, we really can’t be despondent abot a one run deficit in the third

"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams

by Valatan on Apr 22, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

hes not doing terrible. hes not walking a lot or giving up homers

by huts04 on Apr 22, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

No, I'm not saying that...

I’m just saying… the guy went unsigned until the last week of Spring. Don’t you think it’s a little unlikely that he’s pitching like an Ace when no one in the world wanted him?

by mynameistyler on Apr 22, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

hes always

shown signs of s great pitcher periodically, just hasnt maintained

by huts04 on Apr 22, 2008 2:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, yes and no

Nobody wanted him because he wanted a multiyear contract at about $8-10 million per year. His track record would suggest he’s not worth that.

Also, for what it’s worth, everyone’s always known that he’s got great stuff, but he just hasn’t put it together. I wonder if throwing more fastballs and curveballs is helping him this year.

by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 2:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's what he was looking for...

but that’s not what the Cardinals offered. I have a hard time believing the Cardinals were the only team offering him a 1 year deal all off-season and Spring Training. Teams in a better position than us, I’m sure.

by mynameistyler on Apr 22, 2008 2:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Of course

We were lucky to land him. I’m sure lots of teams would’ve taken him for what we’re paying.

by mojowo11 on Apr 22, 2008 2:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

he hasnt pitcher that bad

the Braun double is the only Xtra base hit

by Smokin Turkeys on Apr 22, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

And that wasn't on a bad pitch

Low and away, or so it looked on the replay

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by Mr Redbird on Apr 22, 2008 2:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

alot of groundball singles

it will happen on once in a while

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