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Game 17 Open Thread: April 18, 2008

San Francisco Giants @ St. Louis Cardinals


Cain Wellemeyer
0-1, 3.24 1-0, 4.00

espn.com doesn't often have a worthwhile article, but there's an amusing one up there today which asks: are the giants the worst hitting team of the last 50 years? and if they're not, who is?

they are definitely worst in the nl to date: last in scoring, last in obp, 14th in slugging, 15th in homers. they are 1st in SBs, however.

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Is a 1B of

Rich Aurilia the worst ever?

(Bob Horner as a Cardinal not withstanding.)

by Harknights on Apr 18, 2008 7:20 PM EDT   0 recs

I can't type that fast

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 18, 2008 7:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Kip Wells

Maybe I missed it elsewhere, but did you guys see Baron von Kippington pull off the W in the 22-inning marathon last night in San Diego?

His line:
4 IP, 1 H, 1 BB, 3 K, HBP, 53 pitches
http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/boxscore?gameId=280417125

I found it interesting that 4 non-starters had 3 or more IP in relief. Kipper was the only starter out of those 4. Ledezma for the Padres had 5 IP on 80 pitches. He is a former starter though: http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/players/profile?statsId=7086

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by ColinMacLeod on Apr 18, 2008 7:28 PM EDT   0 recs

No Ludwick

according to gameday. Duncan, Schu, and Ankiel.

by enoscountry on Apr 18, 2008 7:30 PM EDT   0 recs

Start Time

Does anyone know if the start time has officially been pushed back? or are they just playing it by ear?

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Apr 18, 2008 7:35 PM EDT   0 recs

Did you know? TLR no sugar

Just to point out how dubious I am of FSN’s Do You Know yesterday, LaRussa is a big fan of wine and unless I remember incorrectly,wine is very high in sugar content, no?

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 18, 2008 7:48 PM EDT   0 recs

I think it depends on the wine

Dry reds have very little or none; some of the stuff you can get from wineries around here has a lot.

by BTown Birds fan on Apr 18, 2008 7:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm just various dubious of the statement

that the man has no sugar in his diet.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 18, 2008 7:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

guess it depends

on what you define as suger? refined sugars? artificial sugars? Yes technically cards would count as sugars at some level as well. I’ll just take away from it that he tries to eat healthy.

by FunkeeC on Apr 18, 2008 7:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

carbs not cards

haha one could debate whether he eats cards or not.

by FunkeeC on Apr 18, 2008 7:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nutritionists correct me

But isn’t any starch/carbohydrate broken down into sugar anyway basically?

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Apr 18, 2008 7:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yes

which is why i made the point that it could be the type of sugars being referred to. I’m sure natural occuring sugars are in everyone’s diet. It probably is a good idea to avoid the refined ones (high fructose corn syrup anyone?)

by FunkeeC on Apr 18, 2008 8:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm with you

He’s probably talking about sucrose (table sugar) and HFCS as well, since that’s how the ingredients are listed on food labels.

All starches/sugars are turned into blood glucose.

by silent_bob on Apr 18, 2008 8:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Can one of you guys in the know give me a little info

Can someone tell me the salaries and the years left on Mulder and Carpenter’s contracts…......thanks

Westcoastbirdwatcher

by westcoastbirdwatcher on Apr 18, 2008 8:02 PM EDT   0 recs

Heres a link

http://mlbcontracts.blogspot.com/2004/12/st-louis-cardinals_111971260115041890.html

BTW this took a 2 second google search, couldn’t you of found this yourself

"If I managed the Cubs, I'd be an Alcoholic." - Whitey Herzog

by cyko42 on Apr 18, 2008 8:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If you had

left it with your link you would have been seen as helpful. The scold didn’t really add anything except to make you feel superior.

The time has come for someone to put his foot down and that foot is me

by heathen on Apr 18, 2008 8:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Your Right

I let one of my own pet peeves influence my response, and I apologize….

"If I managed the Cubs, I'd be an Alcoholic." - Whitey Herzog

by cyko42 on Apr 18, 2008 8:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

How does...

the field look at Busch? I heard that the game will probably get in, but since it’s been raining all day…

by Phizzle on Apr 18, 2008 8:04 PM EDT   0 recs

The tarp was taken off the field ...

at about 6:15 … the game should start a little after 7:15, and the weather people are saying there’s a window to get the game in …

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 18, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That's per 1380 ...

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 18, 2008 8:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That would be more amusing...

if they hadn’t split with the Cardinals. And scored the same number of runs, actually (both 21 runs in the 4 game series)

It’s silly to complain about the Cardinals record, but they should have won last night’s game (if not for Skippy) and one of the SF games they lost

Bench Skippy, start Ludwick

by DiscoJer on Apr 18, 2008 8:04 PM EDT   0 recs

C'mon now ...

you can’t hang yesterday’s loss on Skip … he made every effort to get that ball … they were playing to pull, and he blooped it on the line … it happens … he might not have got the best jump; but, when Fielder is up, who breaks IN on the first step? ... it was just bad luck … just like it was good luck when Dunc got that bloop single to win a game recently … just like when Albert just happened to catch that line drive to bail out Izzy’s arse the other day … luck is part of baseball … please get off Skip’s case …

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 18, 2008 8:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ideal situation

We get three innings into the game and then we have a one hour delay. SF goes to their pen, Cards bring in ARey!

How does that sound to ya’ll?

Proud President of the Unofficial Skip Schumaker Fan Club!
(now accepting applications)

by stltrav09 on Apr 18, 2008 8:08 PM EDT   0 recs

I'd rather get five in

Don’t want to give the Giants another freebie.

by liam on Apr 18, 2008 8:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i would rather call it after 5

and welly still be under 75 pitches

by tnek5 on Apr 18, 2008 8:10 PM EDT   0 recs

Rasmus singles!

A good omen for the night, I hope.

Proud President of the Unofficial Skip Schumaker Fan Club!
(now accepting applications)

by stltrav09 on Apr 18, 2008 8:15 PM EDT   0 recs

On time start!

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 18, 2008 8:16 PM EDT   0 recs

Who else finds this no announcers thing oddly refreshing...

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Apr 18, 2008 8:16 PM EDT   0 recs

steady dose of fastballs from Welle

Proud President of the Unofficial Skip Schumaker Fan Club!
(now accepting applications)

by stltrav09 on Apr 18, 2008 8:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

fantastic

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Apr 18, 2008 8:17 PM EDT   0 recs

Wellemeyer ... K #1 ...

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 18, 2008 8:18 PM EDT   0 recs

is there anyone else...

whom is having audio issues with the game feed or is it just once again terrible service from my cable company in southern arkansas.

by streamman on Apr 18, 2008 8:18 PM EDT   0 recs

I've got no announcers period

Just the sounds of the game

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Apr 18, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ya

no announcers

by huts04 on Apr 18, 2008 8:20 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah

two weeks ago they were playing the games audio feed but were broadcasting mtv2 over the top of it… now I have the game and the crowd noise, but no announcers

by streamman on Apr 18, 2008 8:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I actually like this

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Apr 18, 2008 8:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wellemeyer ... K#2 ...

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 18, 2008 8:18 PM EDT   0 recs

Santana has struck out 8 Phillies

after 4 innings. That’s a free-swinging ballclub.

by effin fisk on Apr 18, 2008 8:19 PM EDT   0 recs

3 up

3 down swinging!

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by ColinMacLeod on Apr 18, 2008 8:20 PM EDT   0 recs

Err… 2 swinging, 1 looking.

I wish I could type a backwards K. >| ?

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by ColinMacLeod on Apr 18, 2008 8:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

almost…

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on Apr 18, 2008 8:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Fun with entities

Some of my favorites: Ѿ ҈

That second one might be good for a swinging strikeout. Kinda looks like a breeze comin’ atcha.

by liam on Apr 18, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wellemeyer ... K #3 ...

How bout that kid!

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 18, 2008 8:20 PM EDT   0 recs

it would figure

two weeks ago they were playing the games audio feed but were broadcasting mtv2 over the top of it… now I have the game and the crowd noise, but no announcers

by streamman on Apr 18, 2008 8:21 PM EDT   0 recs

i really do hope that welly keeps this up

so we can trade him this summer for a middle infield or pitching prospect…

by tnek5 on Apr 18, 2008 8:22 PM EDT   0 recs

'member when...

The Royals signed Gil Meche to a huge contract and then DFA’d Todd Wellemeyer.

by liam on Apr 18, 2008 8:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Lets get a Hit

in the first inning and not worry about this no hitter possibility.

"If I managed the Cubs, I'd be an Alcoholic." - Whitey Herzog

by cyko42 on Apr 18, 2008 8:23 PM EDT   0 recs

the no announcers thing is not a cable company issue

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Apr 18, 2008 8:23 PM EDT   0 recs

it has to be a problem in the truck...

if it was a cable co issue you’d hear nothing

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Apr 18, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

well earlier in the night I had audio for the commercial breaks and nothing while Al and Dan were previewing. Now I have only the background audio for the game. Which is well enough but if it is all coming across direct tv and local stl feeds then i need to have a serious conversation with my local cable company for a week that had to shut down my cable boxes each night to reset them so i could get the game i was already supposed to be getting, now the audio is screwed up.

by streamman on Apr 18, 2008 8:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice at bat, Skip ...

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 18, 2008 8:24 PM EDT   0 recs

Matt Cain

fears Skip Schumaker.

by liam on Apr 18, 2008 8:24 PM EDT   0 recs

Why wouldn't ya ...

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 18, 2008 8:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yup

Just like pitchers seem to fear Izturis this year. I guess they have last year’s scouting report where he swung at everything, so they simply don’t throw him a lot of strikes

Bench Skippy, start Ludwick

by DiscoJer on Apr 18, 2008 8:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I've been calling him

Iztaking for a while now.

by liam on Apr 18, 2008 8:28 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

duncan ripped the shit out of that

atta kid dunc

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 18, 2008 8:25 PM EDT   0 recs

Dunc!!

wanted to see Luddy tonight but that works!

by TxCardFan on Apr 18, 2008 8:26 PM EDT   0 recs

Yeah ... me too ...

But I hope Dunc makes me eat my words …

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 18, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dunc comes through ...

bad luck on the ground rule double … Skip would have scored …

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 18, 2008 8:26 PM EDT   0 recs

HR by Albert?

he’s got none at home.

by enoscountry on Apr 18, 2008 8:26 PM EDT   0 recs

i bet he gets walked

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 18, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

well

i was wrong, but he got a rbi i reckon

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 18, 2008 8:27 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

RBI for Albert !

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 18, 2008 8:27 PM EDT   0 recs

Glaus...

homerun, please.

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

by sirensofsilence on Apr 18, 2008 8:29 PM EDT   0 recs

Boo

nevermind

"I was a victim of a series of accidents, as are we all."

by sirensofsilence on Apr 18, 2008 8:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Glaus

I’m willing him to break out of his slump.

Shananananannanana.

by liam on Apr 18, 2008 8:29 PM EDT   0 recs