Milwaukee @ St. Louis GameThread, Apr 17, 2008 1:15 PM EDT

lineups

Well, we won yesterday, so I’ll have another go at the lineups…

Weeks 2B
Hardy SS
Braun LF
Fielder 1B
Hart RF
Gross CF
Rivera C
Counsell 3B
Parra P

Barton LF
Ankiel CF
Pujols 1B
Glaus 3B
Ludwick RF
Molina C
Miles 2B
Lohse P
Izturis SS

There ya go. Go Ludwick! (just so that The MooCow didn’t jinx you with his fanpost or something!)

by stlfan on Apr 17, 2008 12:48 PM EDT 0 recs

Against a Lefty too

Let’s hope he continues to play better than his career suggests against lefts.

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 17, 2008 1:18 PM EDT up 0 recs

Coincidentally...

I just picked up Ludwick for my fantasy team last night…it’s paying off well. :)

by stlfan on Apr 17, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up 0 recs

Load up with righties

against the lefthander… makes sense to me!

Let’s hope the Brew Crew continues their trend of not hitting righthanders! (Why, yes, I am greedy!)

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by The Ol Goaler on Apr 17, 2008 12:55 PM EDT 0 recs

Taking a quick look at the hard times article and of course Iz jumps out. I know he’s running small data to that effect, but I’m almost curious if he batted in the 7th spot and have Kennedy (last nights line up) in the 9th.

You still get speed, they both have similar OBP, but Iz’s numbers seem to be better in that slot. (before pitcher, since 8th means something entirely different for us)

Just a roaming thought.

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 17, 2008 1:01 PM EDT 0 recs

ironically Iz and Kendall are both in that article. And they’re both 9 slot players.

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 17, 2008 1:03 PM EDT up 0 recs

Wainwright will have more XBH than Izz2 in '08

You heard it here first.

by gocards62 on Apr 17, 2008 1:15 PM EDT up 0 recs

I like Iztaking batting 7 too

That article surprised me. I would have expected a spike in walks in front of the pitcher.

by liam on Apr 17, 2008 1:20 PM EDT up 0 recs

anyone think that if lohse somehow stays solid this year

we have a shot to keep him, you know, the whole stl is a great place to play, stl discount kinda thing?

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 17, 2008 1:16 PM EDT 0 recs

I'd like to see the Cardinals

offer an extension here shortly. If he keeps this up (not the 1.00 era but keeps pitching well) his value will rise and with his agent, he may ask for a lot.

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by stltrav09 on Apr 17, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up 0 recs

I don't know if I'd offer it too soon ...

His spike in results may be tied to pithching for a lucrative contract … let’s keep that edge working for us … but I would offer him a contract … I think he’s a keeper … and, I wouldn’t be too insistent on a home town discount … if he’s earned it, he’s earned it …

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 17, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up 0 recs

i mean i think a discount is the only way we can keep him

the way we watch our payroll sometimes, either way if he keeps it even close to this for the season i will give him a cheer where ever he goes

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 17, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

It'd be nice

if he pitched well enough to rise into the Type B category.

by liam on Apr 17, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up 0 recs

His agent

will be asking for a lot no matter what time you approach him.

by liam on Apr 17, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up 0 recs

Doubt it

If he keeps up a pretty solid year, we should let him walk. Historically, he hasn’t been that great of a pitcher. If he tears it up for us this year, or even has a above-average year, he will be looking for a 4/$40 or even more like he was this offseason. I’d say thanks for the season, good luck, and see ya.

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by Mr Redbird on Apr 17, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up 0 recs

Great start for Lohse ...

ERA is now under 1.00 again … I love this guy … only 7 pitches in the 1st inning … hoping for 7+ innings …

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 17, 2008 1:19 PM EDT 0 recs

barton leadoff walk

on 4 pitches

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 17, 2008 1:20 PM EDT 0 recs

Ank

Has begun swinging at some uglier pitches in the last few games.

by mynameistyler on Apr 17, 2008 1:23 PM EDT 0 recs

come on troy

give us a solid at bat

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 17, 2008 1:25 PM EDT 0 recs

DP Glaus

couldn’t take a strike

by gocards62 on Apr 17, 2008 1:27 PM EDT up 0 recs

Pitchers...

are going to need to pitch to contact today because this is one tight strikezone.

by mynameistyler on Apr 17, 2008 1:26 PM EDT 0 recs

Lucky for us

it suits Lohse just fine

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 17, 2008 1:28 PM EDT up 0 recs

Miguel Tejada's True Age

Turns out that Tejada is a little older than he led on. It’s heartening to think that the ‘Stros gave away half of their farm system for a soon-to-be 34 year old SS.

by bgh on Apr 17, 2008 1:27 PM EDT 0 recs

I Guess I'm One of the Few...

who don’t feel like this is as big a deal as some may think. Miggy’s playing well and, truly, is it that surprising to hear domincan players signing outside the last decade weren’t truthful? I find it more strange that teams didn’t do any research since all of his documentation listed him as having been born in 1974 yet Major League Baseball was clueless.

by mynameistyler on Apr 17, 2008 1:31 PM EDT up 0 recs

It's a big deal

Because someone of his age, even with an alleged history of PED use, is much more likely to see a rapid, drastic drop in production and mobility on defense (not that Tejada is all that mobile now, anyway). It’s not surprising at all as lying about one’s age seems to be common when trying to break free from the cycle of poverty many aspiring Latin American ballplayers find themselves in. It is bad business for teams not to do a better job of researching this, if not initially that before making a FA signing or a trade.

by bgh on Apr 17, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up 0 recs

Got a kick

that the writer described him as “slick-fielding.” He’s looked better at short than I, for one, had expected, but he’s hardly “slick.”

by liam on Apr 17, 2008 1:39 PM EDT up 0 recs

He's improved from last year for sure

Last year, he played it about as well as a dead fish. However, he saved a game for Houston against us by flashing the leather.

by bgh on Apr 17, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'm just really surprised...

that no one knew until now given all of his documentation is correct.

by mynameistyler on Apr 17, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up 0 recs

Glaus is just struggling right now...

and you can tell it is mental. For those unable to watch, after that DP, he started banging his hands again his helmet in frustration.

if god hands you a lemon, i say put it in your underpants

by Raconteur on Apr 17, 2008 1:27 PM EDT 0 recs

I agree

I hate to be cliche but he’s really pressing right now. The last few games he’s fouled off good pitches - yanked them really hard but really foul - and he is visibly upset with himself.

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by stltrav09 on Apr 17, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'm starting to think

we have better options for a hitter behind Pujols…

zero HR from the guy makes pitchers not want to give Albert anything to hit..

by salvomania on Apr 17, 2008 1:28 PM EDT 0 recs

As it appears now...

Glaus isn’t that great of a 4 hitter. However, I think he is our best hitter to place behind Pujols by a wide margin. I’m confused though because the first month of the season is generally one of Glaus’ more productive, especially in terms of his power.

by mynameistyler on Apr 17, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up 0 recs

Yeah ... Ludwick definately should be batting cleanup ...

Glaus belongs in the 5 hole until his power comes around … which it will …

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 17, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up 0 recs

It would be 3-0 right now ...

if Ludwick was batting clean-up …

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 17, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up 0 recs

19 pitches

hes rollin

by huts04 on Apr 17, 2008 1:33 PM EDT 0 recs

Very helpful.

by mynameistyler on Apr 17, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up 0 recs

Did you all see Kyle chewing at the ump ..

as he walked off … he really wasn’t getting some strike calls … it was cool to watch …

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 17, 2008 1:34 PM EDT 0 recs

chewing at the ump in the 2nd inning is a BAD idea

if god hands you a lemon, i say put it in your underpants

by Raconteur on Apr 17, 2008 1:34 PM EDT up 0 recs

Hope that doesn't come back to bite him

Although he has a point. Two pitches on the top inside corner would called balls that were clearly strikes.

by cloistermaximus on Apr 17, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up 0 recs

looked to me like he was

more asking about the strike zone, or perhaps even talking to Yadi… not so much “chewing”

Just my opinion..

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by stltrav09 on Apr 17, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up 0 recs

Might've been ... I certainly could hear him ...

But he wasn’t taking it quietly … This ump’s strike zone is small …

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 17, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up 0 recs

I agree...

with stltrav09. I was thinking he was asking where ball 3 was when he was “mouthing” with the ump. I’m not a lip reader, though…

by stlfan on Apr 17, 2008 3:03 PM EDT up 0 recs

4 HR 4 GAMES

if god hands you a lemon, i say put it in your underpants

by Raconteur on Apr 17, 2008 1:35 PM EDT 0 recs

PS: THIS MAN SHOULD START

if god hands you a lemon, i say put it in your underpants

by Raconteur on Apr 17, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up 0 recs

I'd be inclined to agree...

The guy is one hell of a fourth outfielder, though.

by mynameistyler on Apr 17, 2008 1:36 PM EDT up 0 recs

No way

Skip would have drawn a walk or something else to manufacture that run. Ludwick is just being a selfish bastard with these selfish homeruns. How selfish.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 17, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up 0 recs

Him and Soriano

FJM is proud

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Apr 17, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up 0 recs

VEB fans make me proud

I knew more than a few of you would catch the FJM reference.

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 17, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up 0 recs

FJM

i dont know what that is, i just hate homeruns

and i love ball players who played punter in college, shows how tough and gritty they are

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 17, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up 0 recs

FJM is one of those wacko sabermetric statisticality things

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Apr 17, 2008 2:05 PM EDT up 0 recs

i hear a computer created it

to take over the world

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 17, 2008 2:06 PM EDT up 0 recs

No...

It’s a front for Fremulon Ins. INC. to drum up extra business.

by tinstl on Apr 17, 2008 2:12 PM EDT up 0 recs

Thanks, Ryan.

by mynameistyler on Apr 17, 2008 1:35 PM EDT 0 recs

ludwick again

wow, atta kid

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 17, 2008 1:35 PM EDT 0 recs

I guess Ryan Ludwick

is our cleanup hitter.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 17, 2008 1:35 PM EDT 0 recs

yep ... it's still early in the year... but ...

Ludwick is really showing signs of hitting lefties pretty well … I hope it continues …

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 17, 2008 1:56 PM EDT up 0 recs

agrees

Ankiel is Jesus!

by Cards Fan in Chitown on Apr 17, 2008 1:58 PM EDT up 0 recs

yeah Luddy!

Cubs are Scrubs

by Arambar on Apr 17, 2008 1:35 PM EDT 0 recs

LUD = THE MAN

by bosman on Apr 17, 2008 1:35 PM EDT 0 recs

I love me some Lud

by cloistermaximus on Apr 17, 2008 1:35 PM EDT 0 recs

LUDWICK CAN'T HIT LEFTIES!!!!

Crow eaten on my part. Let’s hope this is the start of a new pattern!

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by Mr Redbird on Apr 17, 2008 1:36 PM EDT 0 recs

That's his third HR

off left-handed pitching in 19 at-bats.

En. Fuego.

by liam on Apr 17, 2008 1:38 PM EDT up 0 recs

Every HR Ludwick hits against LHP

now makes Chris Duncan that much more irrelevant.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 17, 2008 1:37 PM EDT 0 recs

Thankfully so.

by mynameistyler on Apr 17, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up 0 recs

I don't wan to see Ludwick out of the lineup for a long time

He’s the hot hand

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by Mr Redbird on Apr 17, 2008 1:37 PM EDT up 0 recs

He is

But Duncan’s been hitting, too.

.313 BA / .425 OBP / .469 SLG / .894 OPS

by bgh on Apr 17, 2008 1:52 PM EDT up 0 recs

and of course

once skip got a hit, he’s hit: .424/.472/.697 (1.169 OPS)

What a great problem to have, eh?

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on Apr 17, 2008 1:55 PM EDT up 0 recs

Why are Adam and Skip not starting??

Someone please invent a stat for “ON-FIRE” so LaRussa can have a reason to keep these guys in the line-up.

by redbird2006 on Apr 17, 2008 1:38 PM EDT 0 recs

Here's one for you

4HR / 4 games = ON-FREAKING-FIRE

"Well, folks, this game began as a tiny worm and is blossoming into a large cobra." - Mike "The Moon Man" Shannon

by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 17, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up 0 recs

Exactly

Ludwick hits 3 homers in 3 games and LaRussa, in his infinite wisdom, puts him on the bench for 2 games. We need a stat for “ON-FIRE” so that doesn’t happen (imho).

Personally… current hot-ness is much more important than historical lefty/righty issues.

by redbird2006 on Apr 17, 2008 1:49 PM EDT up 0 recs