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Letter from Springfield II

Letters from Springfield is a biweekly report from the Cardinals’ AA affiliate in Springfield. The writer, Matt Lemmon (itsalemmon1019), is the editor of GO Magazine and the web editor for 417 Magazine in Springfield. If you have suggestions for AA post topics or interview subjects, leave them in the comments.

My second installment on the AA Springfield Cardinals is, for all intents and purposes, my first actual post --- it’ll probably be another three years before the hoopla surrounding a Springfield game is as pitched as it was a couple of weeks ago when the St. Louis Cardinals came visiting. Barring, of course, an Albert Pujols rehab assignment, which none of us wants to see.

So it seems fitting to begin with an interview with Ron "Pop" Warner, Springfield’s manager, who led the team to a Texas League North Division championship last season and marvelously developed some top organizational talent like Colby Rasmus, Chris Perez, and others. Though the market for managing prospects in the minors is nowhere near as high-stakes as that for players, you’d be hard pressed to find anyone in the know who doesn’t regard Warner as a rising star in the minor-league managing ranks. As you’ll see, he’s a Cardinal through and through. Warner, only 38, has managed at both Johnson City (2002) and Palm Beach (2005-06), alternating with stints as hitting coach at (then AA) New Haven and Peoria.

Warner’s playing career began when he signed with the Cardinals as a shortstop in 1991. He slowly worked his way up through the system, but hi playing career stalled at AAA (Louisville 1997, Memphis 1998-99). In 2000, rather than spend another year as a utility player at AAA—albeit a productive one: Warner hit .290 in 1999—he opted to spend a year a bullpen catcher in St. Louis and start his coaching career.

Pop let me into his office before a recent home game and we chatted for 15 minutes or so. My impressions: Very businesslike, but pleasant. He’s got a young face, wears dark sunglasses and has one hell of a nicely done soul patch on his lower lip (Speezer would be jealous, I kid you not). Pop is tall, at least 6-3 (that’s what he’s listed at on his Baseball-Reference page); he wears number 57 and coaches third base. For all his youth and un-LaRussa-like congeniality with reporters, I think there’s a good chance you could see Warner as the next manager of the St. Louis Cardinals --- he appears to have been groomed for it, though all bets would certainly be off if Mo’s tenure is a short one (but so far, so good, eh?). Warner is what you call a "company man," and if the legacy of the Schoediensts and Kissels still means anything in DeWitt-ville, that could give Pop a leg up; though I’m admittedly unfamiliar with the career track of AAA manager Chris Maloney.

I’ve written enough. I’ll let Pop talk now.

 

So how long have you been managing, and how did that begin?
When I came to spring training in 2000, halfway through they asked if I wanted to start my coaching gig. Actually, they’d asked me after my ’99 season, and I expressed to them that I wanted to play another year, because my goal was to make the big leagues. They said "Alright, you’ll be a utility guy again at Memphis, and we’ll talk to you at the end of the season." I went to spring training [in 2000] and a couple of the big league coaches got hurt; Dave McKay had surgery, he had one of his ribs taken out, and Jose Oquendo had arm surgery, so we needed someone to throw batting practice, and they only had one bullpen catcher. So they asked me to spend the whole year in 2000 in the big leagues. Since I’d never been there, I thought it would really be a help to them and to [my career], for me to start coaching. So I retired, halfway through spring training, and spent the whole year in 2000 with St. Louis, and it was a great experience. We made it to the NLCS, and got beat by the Mets. The year after that I started my coaching career. I started as hitting coach at New Haven; from there I went to the NY-Penn League, where I was a hitting coach… then one year I managed at Johnson City. In 2005 they asked me to manage again in the Florida State League, so obviously I accepted. I managed a team in Florida State League and won a championship there [in 2005]. And then in 2006 I was back there again, we made the playoffs and got beat in first round. And then last year was my first year in AA.

So I have to ask: You were with the Cardinals in 2000, so you got to see Rick Ankiel’s well-documented battles. I know you didn’t manage him last year, but you were in the system…
I played with him.

Wow. What’s that been like for you to watch him do what he’s been doing?
It’s been great. I can’t be happier for the guy. To see him go through what he went through, I was there for it, to see the struggles that he had, it hurt me because he was my friend. You hate to see your friends struggle like that, mentally and emotionally, he was down. It was tough for him and for the people around who cared for him. He put it aside and decided that … he was going to try [the outfield] and he was convicted to trying to do it. I said "Go for it man, that’s great. If you can stay healthy and do your thing there’s no question in my mind you can do this."

Now ,I didn’t think he could do what he’s doing now; but there were some people who did. Our manager that spent to years [in Springfield, now AAA manager] Chris Maloney, told me, "Pop if this guy ever puts it together, he’s going to be something special in the big leagues." And I was, you know, kind "Okay, you know, I think he can probably make it there." But [Maloney] was dead on with Ank. He had him [at AA], and he saw what the guy was capable of, and the rest is history now.

Would fans be surprised, at this level, how well many of the pitchers can hit? Or was Rick sort of a freak with the bat and his arm?
You don’t see that too much. Every once in a while you’ll see guys you’ve got to be real careful with, but what an athlete [Ankiel] is… he’s one of a kind that’s for sure.

You’re a Cardinals lifer. Is that a rarity? There can’t be too many guys at your position who have spent their whole career with one team.
Probably not. I mean, I’m sure there are, I haven’t taken notice of anybody. One of my idols in this game was George Kissell, who was in this organization 60 some-odd years, and he really explained to me when I played the importance of being a team guy, a guy that’s involved in the organization. Plus, it’s all I know. I’ve been a cardinal my whole life and believe the philosophy we teach here, and I’m family with the people around here. It’s important to me personally to be here and try to make it to the big leagues with the team I came up with. It’s a goal of mine.

A lot of people would say you’re a rising star as far as minor league managing prospects go. What do you say to that?
I just try to get better and learn. Every day, every year is a new challenge and I try to coach it like that, regardless what people say. Some people might say you’re horseshit, some might say you’re a rising star. Whatever. I try not to think about it or listen to it, just go about my business and try to learn and prepare these guys to play in the big leagues.

If a AAA or major league call came form another club, is that soemthing you’d have to consider.
It’s absolutely something I’d consider. I have goals to get to the big leagues, and it would have to depend on whether it was something that fit for me and my family [Author’s note: The Springfield Cardinals website says Warner lives in St. Charles with his wife and son]. I think I’m in a pretty good spot, for my family and myself, in this organization. But if it was the big leagues I would definitely consider it. More than consider it.

If you’ve been with the organization since 1991, you’ve been through not just one but sort of two regime changes in St. Louis management. The new GM, John Mozeliak, coming in was kind of a big deal. How has that manifested itself at the AA level? Are there any different lines of communication?
No. Walt and Mo, they were on the same page. When Mo stepped in, it was pretty much the same thing. Walt was great and Mo was great and now Mo is in his position and Mo is great. The lines of communication have been open. It’s comfortable; they were both good communicators, and let me know how things are going. I haven’t seen any negatives.

How often do you talk with St. Louis, and what’s the back and forth? Do you have a daily dialogue?
We communicate every night from the computer. I send reports in, and that’s basically how we communicate. Our minor league operations director John Vuch, I communicate with him every other day and let him know how things are going.

There’s been a boom in baseball interest, particularly minor league baseball, on the Internet and blogs, and all that stuff. Does the increased attention on AA baseball, make your job harder? Are there situations where there’s more scrutiny?
No, I don’t think so. Whatever pressure you put on yourself you put on yourself. You’re right, the info out there is huge, but I’m just trying not to pay attention to it, try to make these guys better and trying to get better myself.

Interview continues after the jump . . . .

Did anybody really catch your eye down in Jupiter? Anyone that’s here now?
Yeah, there were quite a few guys. Our first round pick last year, Peter Kozma; he’s young kid, 18 or 19 years old and a really solid looking player. I look forward to seeing his progress. [I also like] some of the pitchers we have here. Adam Ottavino has a power arm and I’m really interested in seeing how he develops. From our position players: John Jay, Allen Craig, Mark Hamilton, Tyler Greene, Bryan Anderson… we’ve got guys that have the ability to play in the big leagues. It’ll be nice to see them develop.

I hear Bryan Anderson is working with Mike Matheny some on the side. What can you tell me?
Mike came down to big league camp and worked with some of the catchers alongside our minor league catching coordinator, Dan Bilardello. He and Jeff Murphy, the bullpen coach up there who’s kind a catching coach the big leagues, and Yadi and all those guys put their heads together and worked with some of those young guys. Matheny took an interest in some of our younger catchers and basically taught them fundamentals, and was telling them what it takes to catch in the big leagues every day, and all grind he went through and all the things he had to overcome to be in a position to do what he did, which was win Gold Gloves. It was great for these guys to hear his wisdom and hear what he did to prepare every day… and how he took care of himself and the nuances of catching every day.

What’s it going to take for someone like Anderson to get to AAA… or beyond?
Experience, just playing. I talk about experience—you get experience through learning form your failures. There’s only one way you can do it, that comes with playing. If you play you’re going to make mistakes and learn form them, and you get better and you don’t make them again. [Anderson] is only 21 years old; he played here the whole year at 20. He needs to play and get familiar with his body. It’s difficult, but he knows what the certain things are he has trouble with and that he needs to get better with.

In Cody Haerther, you’ve got a guy who, for whatever reason, has spent parts of four years or so at the AA level. What do you do, as a manager, to motivate and keep them fresh.
It’s been tough for him because he had a good spring training, and he was rightfully upset he had to come back here. [Players’] goals are to move up. I just sat and talked him, let him know it’s just another obstacle in your career to the big leagues, and you can’t control anything that’s basically out of your control on the field. It’s no good worrying about it. It’s hard for some kids to buy into that. At the end of the day, you have no control of the decisions that people make for you. You’ve got to go out there and perform. On the field, if you do, you’ll get yours. It’ll come to you.

This spring there was a concerted effort to bring some of the top pitching prospects to camp early and work on "classic mechanics." What do you know and do you have any role in instituting that here?
Not personally, I don’t. I don’t know much about it; they’re trying to get people to stay injury-free. If there’s something they look at and analyze on film, that could become a problem, they try to address that. People have been doing that forever, but we’re just taking it another step with the video and trying to break down something that might be a problem area and really know what looking at.

So it’s almost as much an injury-prevention method as a performance-enhancement program?
That, but it can and lead into performance, too. The cleaner you are mechanically and the more times you can repeat a good delivery, the more consistent you’re going to be with the pitches you throw.

It’s early in the season, and you guys are sort off a slow start. [Author: At the time of the interview the team was 0-4. The slide got to 0-6 to start the season, and after last night’s 10-inning win Springfield’s record stands at 2-9.] At what point at the AA level do start to get worried and say, "Okay, we gotta get off the schnied"?
Every night. Being a competitive person and a person who loves to win, last night I was down on myself. I feel like as a manager you’re the skipper of the ship, I feel like when you lose it’s on you and rightfully so, it should be on you, you’re the manager, at the end of the day you know that’s not the case because you’re doing the best you can, but when you’re losing you ultimately take that responsibility. I keep myself grounded and my wife keeps me grounded, and keeps me upbeat. I try not to show [the players] if I’m a little down in the dumps, I try to keep it positive with them. Baseball’s a real streaky thing and you try to eliminate the losing streaks. Last year I don’t think we lost more than three in a row, this year we’ve gone four and we need to right the ship and get off this little bad streak we’re on.

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Great read

Many thanks for the interview.

I was at the Frisco-Springfield game last Thursday (where Springfield won 12-5 behind Anderson’s 4-5 day and Hamilton’s slam) and sat right by 3rd base. Got a good view of Pop and watched him encouraging and getting on guys. There was a play where Jay should have advanced from 1st to 3rd on a single but he hesitated and stopped on 2nd and Pop was giving it to him. Hopefully he can right the ship this season.

by paposse on Apr 15, 2008 9:24 AM EDT   0 recs

2010 Management

Everyone has been promoting Oquendo as a manager for so long was Warner overlooked? I doubt it, Peronally when TLR’s current contract runs out it makes me wonder what will happen, will he be back, retire, move on to another team?

If TLR is not back, which to me is very likely I wonder if we will see something like:
Manager: Oquendo
Bench Coach: Matheny
1st Base: Warner
3rd Base: Smith (he hates TLR but not Jose right?)
Pitching: Eldred
Hitting: Walker (it could happen)

Always fun to dream about different configurations even if it isn’t likely.

by StLHugo on Apr 15, 2008 9:33 AM EDT   0 recs

The wizard

I always have wondered whether or not he would come back and coach. I believe he and “The secret weapon” like each other. But would a guy whom had Ozzie’s life style come back to coaching?

by gonzostl on Apr 15, 2008 9:46 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

More Info on Oquendo

Why do so many folks think that Oquendo will be a great manager? I know that folks loved the secret weapon as a player in STL. I know that he gets a lot of praise for his work with the infielders. Maybe my inquiry is not necessarily specific to Oquendo, but is about knowing how to assess manager potential of coaches, e.g. third base coach. He did manage for one year in short-season single A in 1998 with NJ Cards in the NY-Penn League.

born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red

by totalloser on Apr 15, 2008 10:40 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He also managed Team Porta Rico in the WBC, for what that is worth

by Stan and Slaughter on Apr 15, 2008 10:51 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Everyone speaks of him as being a leader and of knowing the game

Whether that means he’s strategically sound is another thing but for what it’s worth he seems to be universally praised by the “insiders” as a manager candidate.

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Apr 15, 2008 11:57 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Good interview

I’ve never seen Pop in person, but in reading that, I couldn’t help but picture Wilford Brimley doing the talking.

"Chokes it hard down on the knob from the right side. Stands erect in the box."

by arch support on Apr 15, 2008 10:14 AM EDT   0 recs

Actually, that's pretty funny

since he’s about as far away as you can get from looking like Brimley.

by saladdays on Apr 15, 2008 10:36 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

"Bowker's Wild Trip to the Majors"

From Buster Olney’s blog on ESPN.com:

As John Bowker rode into his first day in the major leagues Saturday, he kept doing a mental equipment check, double-checking in his mind that he had, indeed, packed everything he would need. Rookies who show up in the big leagues without their gloves or bats or spikes are a cliché. “I can definitely see how that can happen,” Bowker said Monday afternoon, from San Francisco.

There was so much to do and so little time to do it. Bowker had been in Fresno Friday night, playing for the Giants’ Triple-A affiliate, and just after the Grizzlies completed a wild comeback victory, Fresno manager Dan Rohn summoned Bowker into his office. Bowker had seen other players make this trip before, and he knew what that had to mean: He was being called up to the big leagues.

He needed to be at the Fresno ballpark the next morning at 7:30 a.m., Rohn told him, to meet a car service that would take him to San Francisco for the Giants’ afternoon game. Bowker went to dinner, packed, got to sleep at 3 a.m. and was up at 5 a.m., throwing together his stuff before meeting the car; he got another hour of sleep during the drive.

He arrived at the ballpark at 10:30 a.m., and 10 minutes later, he took batting practice. The anxiety and nervousness that he felt was overwhelmed by the requirements of his job: He had to get his work done. Carney Lansford, the Giants’ hitting coach, pulled him aside and mentioned that he had some videotape of Todd Wellemeyer, the starting pitcher for the Cardinals that day; Bowker learned what he needed - that Wellemeyer was a fastball-slider type of guy, and that he threw a changeup as well - and before Bowker knew it, he was standing in the box against the St. Louis right-hander. “I think with everything going on, it didn’t give me any time to be really nervous,” said Bowker.

He singled in his first at-bat, later homered, and then, on Sunday, slammed another homer. In Bowker’s first six at-bats in the big leagues, he has seven RBIs and two homers among his four hits. “Now you probably think it’s pretty easy,” Aaron Rowand joked to him.

Bowker has been besieged by e-mails and text messages and phone messages - “non-stop,” he said - including one from former college teammate Troy Tulowitzki. Within this notebook, there is word that Bowker is working out at first base.

by bgh on Apr 15, 2008 10:38 AM EDT   0 recs

Aw crap
Within this notebook, there is word that Bowker is working out at first base.

What the heck are we supposed to joke about when the Giants come to town next weekend?

by liam on Apr 15, 2008 11:59 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Giants

Are they looking for a lefthanded hitting firstbaseman or something?

by bgh on Apr 15, 2008 12:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

On the day the season series begins

The Brew Crew has apparently added Dream Weaver. But, it seems that he’ll start out down in AAA Nashville.

2007 w/ Seattle: 6.20 ERA
2006 Postseason: 2.43 ERA

by bgh on Apr 15, 2008 10:47 AM EDT   0 recs

Next they will try to trade for Belliard

and bring Preston Wilson out of retirement. They will then own us with having more 2006 Postseason heroes.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 15, 2008 3:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I was thinking...

Jason Marquis. They would attempt to re-bottle the magic of the 2006 postseason (rather than the black magic of the 2006 regular season). 60% of their rotation could be Redbird castaways.

by bgh on Apr 17, 2008 8:39 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Why Aren't We Talking about the Brewer's?

Is it just me, or has this site lost it’s edge this year?

Here we are on the cusp of a Cards/Brewer’s series in our own backyard and we’re reading about Springfield. Shouldn’t we be reading analysis about the Brewer’s starters we’ll be facing this series? Or who hit Looper well last year?

Let’s save the minor-league reports for off days. What do you say?

by Dr. Gonzo on Apr 15, 2008 11:23 AM EDT   0 recs

-1

I wouldnt mind hearing about the Cards/Brew Crew match up but they play each other 19 times this year (i think) there is plenty of time for that plus there maybe something on the game thread…i enjoy hearing about the minor leaguers and the interview was great! this site has something different 365 days a year and, in my opinion, it is all gold. If you dont like today’s then just wait ‘til tomorrow.

"Back in the day when I played, a pitcher had 3 pitches: a fastball, a curveball, a slider, a changeup and a good sinker pitch." - Mike Shannon

by nomar34 on Apr 15, 2008 11:42 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

-1

i dislike + and – 1’s but that apparently doesnt stop me from using them.

"Back in the day when I played, a pitcher had 3 pitches: a fastball, a curveball, a slider, a changeup and a good sinker pitch." - Mike Shannon

by nomar34 on Apr 15, 2008 11:44 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+1

Adding a negative makes it -2?

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Apr 15, 2008 11:58 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Perhaps instead of criticizing

you can do some research of your own and present the findings in a compelling fanpost? Its easy to rip, its a lot harder to do something positive. Try it.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Apr 15, 2008 12:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

it's also April, Dr. Gonzo

and it’s a lonnnnnng season.

by lboros on Apr 15, 2008 12:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

IMHO

Analysis about the opponents is always good reading, but part of baseball’s allure is the other stuff like this one today. Nice job and thanks.

Personally, I think we got hosed on that call.

by cardsfanindenver on Apr 15, 2008 12:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That's why I come here

Well I can make my own pizza but I prefer Papa John’s. If I went to all the work of digging up the facts and found my own compelling stats and opinions then I wouldn’t really need this site. I don’t mean to be negative. But I was surprised to find a report about the Minor-Leagues heading into an important match-up like this.

I was hoping to come here and get pumped up about the series and arm myself with facts and data to take to the bars to use to berate my fellow patrons. Now i’ll just have to eat my t-ravs in silence and watch the game like a regular. ‘I’ll be like a child who wanders in during the middle of a movie and wants to know….’

by Dr. Gonzo on Apr 15, 2008 12:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow

Stunning revelation. I am talking about liking Papa John’s of course. Maybe you could also get your daily Cardinal opinion downloaded there as well?

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Apr 15, 2008 12:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I prefer Jalepeno and Bacon. As for today’s matchup, i had to go to StlToday. I don’t recall ever having to do that last year. But you were probably being sarcastic.

by Dr. Gonzo on Apr 15, 2008 1:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Mildly

but to answer your question about Looper. I remember Fielder hitting a bomb off him last year and making alot of solid contact otherwise. It could get ugly.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Apr 15, 2008 1:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If you look at the schedule we are playing them 5 times in 8 days but the way they have their rotation set we won’t have to face Suppan or Sheets. Their remaining starters have a combined ERA of 6.03.

Getcha popcorn!

by Dr. Gonzo on Apr 15, 2008 1:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We might catch

Gallardo though, and he could cement himself as their ace by the end of this year. Manny Parra and Charlie Villaneuva are pretty good too.

I am not convinced our pitching will hold up against that lineup.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Apr 15, 2008 1:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah. it will be tough. but they are better vs. lefties. that’s why i want to get fired up for this. this will be a good test for us.

Don’t forget we beat the Rockies 3 out of 4 games. Those boys can hit too.

THOMPSON/WELLEMEYER
Also. I would like to point out that the Cards are 4-1 in games in which Thompson or Wellemeyer started. There was a blog on here that disputed their 2007 record (22-7) as a fluke. Maybe VEB should run a redaction.

by Dr. Gonzo on Apr 15, 2008 1:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

what do you think about the Thompson/Wellemeyer duo?

by Dr. Gonzo on Apr 15, 2008 1:32 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think

they will be exposed as the season progresses. They may benefit from good offensive production, or they may not. Drawing a conclusion this early is faulty, and judging a pitcher’s performance on W/L will always lead you to attribute qualities to them that are not skill based or founded on fact.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Apr 15, 2008 1:35 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

it's not exactly

too early. they have started 34 games between the two of them since 2007 and are 26-8. i agree they aren’t very good pitchers. but they are ground-ball out pitchers that keep the game moving. this keeps the defense active and ready to hit.

i don’t know what it is exactly. maybe they have hot-wives who get drunk after games they win so everyone tries really hard. I DON’T KNOW. But the Cardinals win games that they start. Period. Exclamation Point.

by Dr. Gonzo on Apr 15, 2008 1:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Again

over the 34 starts they have won, no debating those facts, but what you have to believe is that those numbers represent an intrinsic winning skill these pitchers possess instead of them representing the run support they have been fortunate enough to enjoy and the bullpen behind them that has preserved leads for 3+ innings.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Apr 15, 2008 2:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And by the way

I don’t believe those stats point to a skill, I think they represent the luck and inherent unpredictability of the game.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Apr 15, 2008 2:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

5.8 and 5.9

those numbers represent the average run support for Wonderbrad and Welly, respectively. THAT is why the Cardinals won a lot of games they started, even when the two didn’t pitch well.

You don’t have to pitch particularly well to win a game when your offense scores close to 6 runs an outing for you. it is inconceivable to me that people do not recognize this.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Apr 15, 2008 2:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I've had to argue with Yankee fans about Wang

They say he had a “down season and still won 19 games”, “he’s a winner”...got 7 runs of support when he was in.

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Apr 15, 2008 2:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I just believe

that some pitchers do things that help get them run-support. LIKE.. getting ground-ball outs; pitching quickly; looking like your kid-brother (Thompson); not looking like a freakin’ weirdo (Reyes); not giving up 8 run innings (Reyes). Being able to bunt and move runners over (not Reyes).

Al Hrabosky agrees with me. That’s all i need.

by Dr. Gonzo on Apr 15, 2008 3:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

How does

getting ground ball outs help your team score more runs for you? You can believe that all you want, but you have absolutely no reason to. There is tons of evidence to the contrary.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Apr 15, 2008 3:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I suggest you

go to Wikipedia and look up “chain, pulling of.”

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 15, 2008 4:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm pretty sure

he’s dead serious

by jeff_abs on Apr 15, 2008 5:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Really?

I dunno.

After the “Al Hrabosky agrees with me. That’s all i need.” comment, I assumed he HAD to be joking.

There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

by Mr Clean on Apr 15, 2008 5:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

tell us more jeff abs

i had the same reaction as MdRedbird; i’ve got the guy down as a troll. any reason i should think otherwise?

by lboros on Apr 15, 2008 5:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

he's not trolling....

the hrabosky comment was certainly a joke. he just places a higher value on intangibles than most of the people here, and he believes that thompson/welly are plus players when it comes to that which can’t be measured.

by jeff_abs on Apr 15, 2008 5:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If you think looking like your kid-brother helps run scoring

You’re too far gone.

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Apr 15, 2008 4:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

While i

appreciate your Neil Young quote, don’t underestimate the mental aspects of the games. It’s not all just numbers on paper. Perhaps Well and Thomp are locker room favorites. Perhaps they wash the Mang’s car. Considering their sub-par performances a 22-7 record would indicate some intangible helping them out.

Here’s a quick update and then I’ll be done

2008 run-support:

Well = 6.33
Thomp = 4.0
Remaining Card-Starts = 4.125

I’ll be back after 2 more Well starts (if he gets them) and we can see where he is at then.

by Dr. Gonzo on Apr 15, 2008 4:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Lb I don't think this is a joke

He thinks Brad Thompson looking like a kid brother helps Albert Pujols. Thompson’s boyish face would’ve made Rick Ankiel throw straight. Wellemeyers flowing locks gives a patience to the batters box that just creates OBP. Jeff Weaver mere presence creates a calm around him…well maybe that one’s true (and sorry for the 2 year old joke).

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Apr 15, 2008 5:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Gallardo hasn't been good at all in his AAA rehab starts

if god hands you a lemon, i say put it in your underpants

by Raconteur on Apr 15, 2008 3:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

wrong sport brotha...

Charlie Villaneuva is a basketball player, you are thinking of Carlos Villaneuva.

if god hands you a lemon, i say put it in your underpants

by Raconteur on Apr 15, 2008 3:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I call him Charlie

maybe I should keep that in mind since no one knows who I am referring to!

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Apr 15, 2008 3:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Dr Gonzo

It was announced a couple of weeks ago that one of our kind friends from Springfield would be sending weekly or bi-weekly reports from Springfield, kind of a scheduled thing you know. Sorry it didn’t fit you your schedule but some of us are thankful for it. Sorry it doesn’t meet you schedule but after all you got you pizza..go eat it.

by ridgesee on Apr 15, 2008 4:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think the site still has its edge ... and I really enjoyed the Pops Warner interview ... but

The Cards face a stiff challenge today vs. the Brewers … Loopers has been pithching very well this season, posting FIGS of 61 and 65, respectively, two very good starts … but, the Brewers historically have spanked Braden … here are some numbers they have put up against him …

PA AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS SH
—-—-—---—-—----—---—-—-—-—
Jason Kendall 16 15 7 2 0 0 3 1 0 .467 .500 .600 1.100 0 0 0 0 0
Bill Hall 15 14 5 2 0 1 5 1 2 .357 .400 .714 1.114 0 0 0 0 0
Rickie Weeks 15 12 6 2 0 1 3 2 2 .500 .533 .917 1.450 0 1 0 0 0
Prince Fielder 10 6 3 2 0 1 3 4 2 .500 .700 1.333 2.033 0 0 0 0 0
J.J. Hardy 10 9 4 1 0 0 0 0 1 .444 .444 .556 1.000 1 0 0 0 0
Corey Hart 8 7 2 0 0 0 1 1 0 .286 .375 .286 .661 0 0 0 0 0

Overall, the Brewers hit .380/.451/.618 against Loop, and have a collective 1.059 OPS against him … Sounds doom and gloom, huh?

The good news is that we also have some decent numbers against Mr. Bush (not the President), who is just about to find himself relagated to the bullpen due to an 0-2 start with an 8.41 ERA … here are some of our past numbers against him …

PA AB H 2B 3B HR RBI BB SO BA OBP SLG OPS SH
—-—-—---—-—----—---—-—-—-—
Cesar Izturis 10 10 3 1 0 0 1 0 2 .300 .300 .400 .700 0 0 0 0 0
Albert Pujols 10 8 1 0 0 0 1 2 1 .125 .300 .125 .425 0 0 0 0 1
Aaron Miles 9 8 0 0 0 0 0 1 0 .000 .111 .000 .111 0 0 0 0 0
Ryan Ludwick 8 7 3 0 0 0 2 1 1 .429 .500 .429 .929 0 0 0 0 0
Yadier Molina 8 7 4 0 0 3 5 1 0 .571 .625 1.857 2.482 0 0 0 0 0
Adam Kennedy 6 6 3 0 0 0 0 0 1 .500 .500 .500 1.000 0 0 0 0 0
Troy Glaus 3 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 0 .333 .333 .333 .666 0 0 0 0 0
Skip Schumaker 3 3 1 0 0 0 0 0 1 .333 .333 .333 .666 0 0 0 0 0

As you can see, Izturis, Ludwick, Kennedy and especially Yadi have pretty good numbers agains Bush … its surprising to note that Albert doesn’t though … anyway, I think this is a hint at tonight’s lineup, with the A Team back in action against this RHP:

1. Schumaker, RF
2. Ankiel, CF
3. Pujols, 1B
4. Ludwick, RF
5. Glaus, 3B
6. Molina, C
7. Kennedy, 2B
8. Looper, P
9. Izturis, SS

That’s what I would go with, anyway … It could be a tough game, depending on how effective Loop is at getting ground ball outs … but he’s been good so far, scoring a 2-1 GB/FlyOut ratio … plus this year, the Brewers have had a lot of trouble with RHPs’ ... so, my prediction for tonight is: Cards 6-3 …

By the way … Mulder starts his official Rehab assignment tonight against Palm Beach (High A) ... go get’em, Mark …

How’s that as a start, Gonzo?

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 15, 2008 1:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That was

excellent. I got chills. A bit gloomy but if that’s what the cards say..

Do you have a magazine I can subscribe to?

by Dr. Gonzo on Apr 15, 2008 2:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

where would you put the odds

of ryan braun taking a walk this series? he’s STILL not taken one this season. If looper throws him anything over the plate, I’m going to throw things.

And I awoke in California, far far from Spancilhill...

by SleepyCA on Apr 15, 2008 3:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Good question ...

He’ll be facing Loop, then Wainwright, then Lohse … Loop’s SO to BB ratio is 7-2, very good … Adam’s is 10-1, outstanding … Lohse’s is 7-5, not quite what you want … so if someone walks Braun, odd’s say it Lohse on Wednesday afternoon … but … who knows if Looper will stay consistent? ... it will be very interesting to see if Looper stays aggressive against the Crew …

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 15, 2008 3:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ummmm

Were not putting a LF in today? Are we playing softball with a RC?

j/k

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 15, 2008 3:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry ... Ludwick should be labeled 'LF' ...

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 15, 2008 3:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Constructive

I don’t think the site has lost it’s edge, but I do think it’s changed. With the changing of guard in the contributers and Larry doing less blogging overall, it has a different tone.

There are things I really like about the changes…I love the SABR inlook from azru and HC!

And, things I miss…I don’t think there’s as much continuity anymore. It just goes with having multiple writers I guess. Everyone does thier own thing. It seems to be less community and project oriented. For example, last year, we had pitch charting (which kinda seemed to die during the season, probably due to the clustered rotation) and a lot more group projections of players. It’s probably harder to keep the group/big picture thing in mind when there’s four regular bloggers.

It’s changed, but I still love it.

The only constructive criticism I have is the amount of minor league stuff we’ve had over the last month or so. I love following the Cardinals farm system and keeping up on things. But, I kinda feel it’s redundant a lot of the time with Erik’s site. I am sure Erik doessn’t feel this way, but it almost seems like he left here to work on his own deal and then we added bloggers that cover his thunder. I guess I would rather keep them seperate. Maybe on occasional interview or piece here, but the majority of the minor league stuff over there (like college draft previews, etc.).

Or maybe just have that stuff be supplemental instead of replacing the big club content.

Just my two cents.

Whatever the subject matter, I’m sure i’ll still be glued.

by RedbirdRay on Apr 15, 2008 3:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+1 This Series is BIG

I don’t think this site has lost it’s edge, but I do think that this series is a BIG DEAL.

I’ll say it here: This series will establish whether the Cards are for real or not.

So far, we’ve had it easy. Rockies when they were flat, ‘Stros, the Nats, and the Giants. This is a real test.

The Brewers have the best line-up in the NL. tthey went toe-to-toe with the Mets and got the better of them.

If we take this series, then anything is possible this season. If we lose, but it’s close, I’ll say we just need to wait for our pitchers to return, call up Rasmus, and maybe add an impact bat.

But if we get swept, I’ll chalk our 9-4 start up to an April mirage.

So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)

by Titus Pullo on Apr 15, 2008 4:08 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

Haerther was moved up to AAA

and has been hitting well. Nice to see him get the first callup after the summer’s roster shenanigans with the Blue Jays.

re:Warner
He strikes me as a very old school manager in terms of game strategy but someone who seems very good at motivating his players.

by azruavatar on Apr 15, 2008 11:57 AM EDT   0 recs