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Game 13 Overflow Thread

Well, at least Lincecum is gone.  Let's get those bats going.

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Das WunderBrad's control

He's had batters where he hasn't even been close. What's the deal?

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 6:01 PM EDT reply actions  

as somebody said earlier

you gotta wonder what's going thru his mind when he comes in in the 4th to relieve the guy who took his spot in the rotation....could just be tense....

by nota bene on Apr 13, 2008 6:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

He should really be starting

Him and Reyes both. But what do I know? I've never been scrappy. Certainly never gritty.

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 6:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Is Barton officially "gritty" yet?

Or has TLR not issued an official decree?

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

here we go barton , need a double

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

BB...

good to see ya

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Apr 13, 2008 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Hmm

Lincescum? Lincebum. Anyway, good to see him gone.

In the unlikely story that is Rick Ankiel, there has never been anything false about hope.

by drewsilv on Apr 13, 2008 6:05 PM EDT reply actions  

helmet falls off on a swing! drink

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Apr 13, 2008 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

swung so hard

his helmet came off, heh get him a chinstrap

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 6:06 PM EDT reply actions  

It's those dreads

Nothing can contain them. Not even Rawlings MLB-grade plastic

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 6:07 PM EDT up reply actions  

mlbtv

Why does MLBTV have to show the other team's gamecast everyday?

I'm looking for the next Bobby Bonilla?

by showmejoe on Apr 13, 2008 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Do they always carry the home team?

gameday audio carries both feeds, and the spanish-language feeds for teams that have 'em.

by liam on Apr 13, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

So,

what do you do when BB loses his helmet during the at-bat.

by cardsgirl95 on Apr 13, 2008 6:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Speed kills.

3B throws 18 ft from the bag, and it's called a base hit.

by etp_stl on Apr 13, 2008 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Barton reaches

Kennedy, then the top of the order....

by nota bene on Apr 13, 2008 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

raise your hand

if you wish we could pinch hit for AK....

by nota bene on Apr 13, 2008 6:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

um, er,

that was, um, a reverse jinx. Yeah, that's it.

by nota bene on Apr 13, 2008 6:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

I love

Me some Brian Barton.

In the unlikely story that is Rick Ankiel, there has never been anything false about hope.

by drewsilv on Apr 13, 2008 6:08 PM EDT reply actions  

AK gets a hit?

There's something happening here, but it ain't exactly clear...

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

lost the helmet again! drink

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Apr 13, 2008 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

Here we go Birdnals!

The Giants bullpen is a circus act.

In the unlikely story that is Rick Ankiel, there has never been anything false about hope.

by drewsilv on Apr 13, 2008 6:09 PM EDT reply actions  

yay

pujols is standing up in the dugout

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

Kennedy's "soft line drive"

...according to GameCast. Never mind its density, I'll take it

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 6:10 PM EDT reply actions  

I giggled so hard

The tape on my glasses nearly split

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

agreed.

if Schu can't make it work.

In the unlikely story that is Rick Ankiel, there has never been anything false about hope.

by drewsilv on Apr 13, 2008 6:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

that was anti-climactic

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

very gritty

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Apr 13, 2008 6:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

full of

heart and hustle

In the unlikely story that is Rick Ankiel, there has never been anything false about hope.

by drewsilv on Apr 13, 2008 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

it was

very gritty.

In the unlikely story that is Rick Ankiel, there has never been anything false about hope.

by drewsilv on Apr 13, 2008 6:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wish

tlr would have not signed, i cannot stand miles anymore

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 6:13 PM EDT reply actions  

all the time, all the time

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 6:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

In my nightmares

Not only does Grit Miles come up to the bat, but he also plays SS. Thank goodness TLR recognizes his defensive limitations and doesn't play him there. Oh wait...

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Miles AKA

Aaron "Grits & Gravy" Miles

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 6:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

That must be my problem.

I'm not from far enough south, and I don't like Grits & Gravy.

by etp_stl on Apr 13, 2008 6:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

hahah

CLASSIC! I just spit my tea all down the front of my shirt...+1 for great timing!

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

i see now

look at that hair when he gets done sliding, suave

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 6:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

awesome

In the unlikely story that is Rick Ankiel, there has never been anything false about hope.

by drewsilv on Apr 13, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

DFA Miles

I wonder if Mo likes him.

by madding on Apr 13, 2008 6:14 PM EDT reply actions  

I sometimes forget

That Ron Villone is on this team.

by stl tyler on Apr 13, 2008 6:15 PM EDT reply actions  

man,

this almost makes me want to go do my taxes...

by davethebutcher on Apr 13, 2008 6:16 PM EDT reply actions  

Cardinals infield

Batting averages...

Miles .192
Izturis .219
Washington .222
Glaus .222
Kennedy .226

Thank god for el hombre.

Who else is ready for some Hoff-Power?!

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Apr 13, 2008 6:17 PM EDT reply actions  

i would actually

like to see some hoff, this is disgusting

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 6:18 PM EDT reply actions  

this feels

so much like last season, its making me sick

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

yea

i remember when we were 5 games above .500 last season too!

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Apr 13, 2008 6:19 PM EDT up reply actions  

Wow, a lot of negativity

For a team who, if they win, will have the club record for hottest start.

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 6:19 PM EDT reply actions  

My guess

Skip Schumaker grounding into the DP.

by liam on Apr 13, 2008 6:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

+1

If Skippy did anything that maintained runners at 1st and 2nd, Pujols comes to the bat.

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 6:22 PM EDT up reply actions  

Glaus should've at least hit then...

Batting miles was like conceding the inning

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Apr 13, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

o

thats whats goes down, I thought thats what comes back up

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

lol....

your on a fire, butter. I wonder if those a quaker grits...

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 6:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I was just thinking of Vince McMahon's XFL

Remember how the players put nicknames on the backs of their jerseys, "He Hate Me" comes mind. Shouldn't Miles have "Grit" above his number?

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 6:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I think

you have a new fan post there....give nicknames to the team....

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

fair enough

maybe it should have been Glaus then....

by nota bene on Apr 13, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

probably

because we haven't signed Bonds....yet.

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Apr 13, 2008 6:23 PM EDT up reply actions  

too bad

kelvin jimenez was sent down, hes so clutch i'd have to use him now, villone is slackin

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

I couldn't watch yesterday's game because of FOX

and their blackout crap but thank goodness I got to see today's game.

[/bitterness,sarcasm]

by azruavatar on Apr 13, 2008 6:23 PM EDT reply actions  

Only game...

I went to the previous 3 games in SF. This is the only one I missed, and I think I made the right decision.

by davethebutcher on Apr 13, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

Can we take Bowker home with us?

I can think of a few people we could leave behind.

by six on Apr 13, 2008 6:24 PM EDT reply actions  

yea

like Rick Horton

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Apr 13, 2008 6:24 PM EDT up reply actions  

don't forget randolph!

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Apr 13, 2008 6:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah

I'm itchin for a forecast of new englands weather right about now

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 6:24 PM EDT reply actions  

Especially

When you're down by 5 runs with 6 outs left.

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 6:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

did

villone switch jerseys and teams? awesome

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 6:29 PM EDT reply actions  

The Game Cast of those two pitches is hilarious

It looks like he is drunk and trying to pitch.

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 6:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

Off topic

has anyone heard any new news on Kinney?

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Look at it this way...

if this loss means resting Albert to keep him around and healthy all summer, then ill take.....wow homer ludwck!

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:30 PM EDT reply actions  

Ludwick

Hittin' lefties all the sudden.

by liam on Apr 13, 2008 6:31 PM EDT reply actions  

Ludwick

making a case for staying in the lineup, at least.....we could sure use some more power in this lineup....

by nota bene on Apr 13, 2008 6:32 PM EDT reply actions  

We have a surplus of OF that can hit

And a craptastic middle IF. We really shoudl try Skip at 2B and see if he can at least play it as well as Miles.

by DriverZn on Apr 13, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Didnt

Skip play some infield last year?

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 6:34 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ludwick and Dunc the Yunger

now look like the second and third-best hitters on the club.

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Ankiel looks good

Don't get me wrong, but he hits for a lower AVG, but equal or higher power. I should have conditioned it better, perhaps with, "After this series."

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 6:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'd say

Pujols
Ankiel
and then either Duncan or Ludwick.....Lud seems more consistent, Duncan seems streaky....

by nota bene on Apr 13, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Duncan

Looked stupid there. I hate this guy

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:33 PM EDT reply actions  

Yes

His 2 doubles today are infuriating.

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 6:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bottom Line with Chris Duncan...

you even love him or you hate im. there is no in between with him.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:34 PM EDT reply actions  

I'm in between.

I think he's decent, but gets overplayed and overexposed sometimes.

by TheBirds on Apr 13, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

I heard a story about miles

Supposedly there is this burning building, everyone gets out but an old lady's cat. From the alley TLR and #12 come out and TLR gives the sign to miles. The building starts to fall down, and singlehandedly miles rebuilds the buidling brick by brick and still catches the cat, true story, true story

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 6:35 PM EDT reply actions  

Miles did actually survive and incedent...

where he had a gun to his head this spring. I'm not sure of the details.

by TheBirds on Apr 13, 2008 6:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ohh

and the purps got nailed.

by TheBirds on Apr 13, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

That happened years ago

when he was a minor leaguer in the Astros organization.

by liam on Apr 13, 2008 6:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hey

Said i was fuzzy on the details!

by TheBirds on Apr 13, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

now thats gritty!

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Apr 13, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

yep

people are idiots, they should have fan interaction classes, held by steve bartman on determining what balls to actually go for and not interfere with the game

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

for more info

http://www.whitesoxinteractive.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=77669

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Apr 13, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

looks like ensberg was involved too

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Apr 13, 2008 6:39 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ensberg

He's still pretty screwed up from the incident, has a lot of trouble controlling paranoia off the field.

by liam on Apr 13, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Best part. THIS is grit:

The police escorted Ensberg and the others out of their room and down to the parking lot, and dug in for a standoff. For 25 minutes, the crook had a gun to Miles' head, until the 5-foot-8 infielder, the son of a heavyweight boxer, took matters into his own hands.

He attacked the 5-foot-11, 175-pound intruder, and during the struggle, Miles bit Williams on the forearm while Williams bit Miles fiercely on the upper back. Both had their hands on the gun, and eventually, with Miles lying on top of the burglar, a SWAT policeman who'd broken through a window had no choice but to fire six close-range gunshots.

"We're downstairs in the parking lot, and you hear this, pop-pop-pop-pop-pop-pop," Ensberg says. "And we're like, 'Aaron's dead.' " But the cop hadn't missed, wounding Williams once in the face and five times in the upper torso. The burglar was still alive, but some of his teeth had literally been shot out of his mouth. Miles bolted through the broken window and down to the parking lot, straight into the arms of his teammate Rose.

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 6:41 PM EDT up reply actions  

when

he got down to the parking lot did his hair look like the above /\ ?

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Teammate Rose

That's switch-hitting catcher Mike Rose, briefly with the Cardinals, left for the Indians last I heard.

by liam on Apr 13, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

What are Bochy and the ump arguing about?

How do either of these guys NOT know EVERYTHING about what could be about to happen?

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 6:36 PM EDT reply actions  

Well, there are worse things than a 4-3 road trip

lets hope we can take 2 out of 3 atleast from the Brewers.

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 13, 2008 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

Bummer

I was hoping that Taschner would face Yadi. Maybe get on and bring in Pujols with two on.

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

why the hatin on Miles?

hes done more good for this team than frickin Chris Duncan, least he can stay healthy.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:37 PM EDT reply actions  

are you serious?

i'm not a big Duncan fan, but that statement is ridiculous.

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 13, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

sorry

i think Duncan is hands down the most overrated player in a redbird uniform for the past two years. no one even comes close.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

i don't think there

is any logical way to justify that position.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Apr 13, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok.

cant stay healthy, cant play defense, slow. hits are sparodic, dad got him the job

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

And he has an .850 career OPS

"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams

by Valatan on Apr 13, 2008 6:44 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

umm. no.

i'm not sure how you're measuring good deeds, but duncan has provided more than miles. and more than most of the team over the last couple years.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Apr 13, 2008 6:38 PM EDT up reply actions  

yadi freakin da!

nice

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:39 PM EDT reply actions  

All right guys

Keep.

Hope.

Alive.

Smart play by that Giants fan grabbing the ball. And smarter play by the ump scoring the run.

"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams

by Valatan on Apr 13, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

that Giants fan didn't know what he was doing...

i'm not sure he even knew he was at a baseball game.

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 13, 2008 6:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Cards

tryin to turn this into a game!

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

troy

would be a nice time for your first dinger man

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:40 PM EDT reply actions  

And here's Troy

Get on base, buddy

"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams

by Valatan on Apr 13, 2008 6:41 PM EDT reply actions  

yadi

so what exactly happened? all gamecast says is ground-rule double...

by soccerfreak on Apr 13, 2008 6:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah

Rico was already rounding third when the ball hit ground, so the ump ruled a double and a run

"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams

by Valatan on Apr 13, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yadi hit it deep to center

Fan reached in to grab it, not an automatic double, fan interference.

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yadi probably hit

a double of the wall...but a fan reached in and grabbed it...awared rico home plate on the play.

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 6:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thank God

They're pinch hitting for Kennedy... WITH PUJOLS!!

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 6:43 PM EDT reply actions  

rick horton

is a frickin genius. he called it. albert up as the tying run.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:43 PM EDT reply actions  

first pitch

pop up. worst nightmare.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

Bert

no matter what happens here i love you!

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 6:44 PM EDT reply actions  

now they walk albert

crap

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

WILD PITCH!

runners advance...so do you walk bert?

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

will

miles stay in an important game, way too long later in the year?

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 6:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Not only will he

He will be brought in to PH in an imporant game during a crucial situation

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Absolutely

And bring up the slappies

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 6:46 PM EDT up reply actions  

skip!!!

COME ON SKIPPY!

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:45 PM EDT reply actions  

HAHAHA

That's funny, but a bit unfortunate, the manager was about to make a pretty big mistake.

by TheBirds on Apr 13, 2008 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Skip Schumaker the games on you...

My money is on a ground out to 2nd.

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 13, 2008 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

i would

but what do i know...hope labert launches one, but a double would be nice

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Apr 13, 2008 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

So....

i guess the runners shouldnt have advanced...

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

eh, they weren't going to pitch to him regardless...

it just means they gave him an intentional walk instead of the unintentional intentional

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 13, 2008 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, that's a sort of weird thing

At least, probably, Glaus shouldn't have.

Come on Skippy.

"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams

by Valatan on Apr 13, 2008 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

ha, but i dont think they would just stand there...

would be funny to see though

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Apr 13, 2008 6:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Skippy

With the Grand Slam! Skips showing a lot more power this year, he may hit 3 homeruns on the season!

by TheBirds on Apr 13, 2008 6:46 PM EDT reply actions  

I like Skip

I've been a moderate supporter of him this year. He's patient, and he makes contact. There are worse people you want up in this situation

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 6:47 PM EDT reply actions  

agreed 100%

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

iz 2,

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Apr 13, 2008 6:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

i swear...

if skip hits a slammy right here, i will go MLB.com and buy a Schumaker jersey right now!

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

i'm in

In the unlikely story that is Rick Ankiel, there has never been anything false about hope.

by drewsilv on Apr 13, 2008 6:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

alright

skip, dont freak out bub.

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

Skip

Is my boy! Lets get it done!

by TheBirds on Apr 13, 2008 6:48 PM EDT reply actions  

skip

sac bunt.

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Apr 13, 2008 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

that was a first pitch

that was a good pitch to try

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:49 PM EDT reply actions  

TV is dead

Game... where is game!!!???

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

crap

crap

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

chris duncan yes, skip no.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:50 PM EDT up reply actions  

nope

neither is garbage. both have positives and negatives. sorry, can't quit refuting this.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Apr 13, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Chris Duncan lifetime stats:

686 AB
45 HR
119 RBIs
.273 BA
.526 SLG
.824 OPS

Average that over 500 ABs and you get the following seasonal numbers: 33 HRs, 87 RBIs

He played the last half of last season hurt.

I just don't get the hate.

by mattisnotfrench on Apr 13, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

You understated his OPS

You added his BA and SLG, not OBP and SLG. It's close to .880

by DiscoJer on Apr 13, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

You are correct sir.

I made an addition error. It should be an .884 OPS, which is even more impressive. I get a pass-it's 1AM here in Montpellier, France.

by mattisnotfrench on Apr 13, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

"there’s a difference between making a critical point and pounding your fists on the floor. if all you have to offer is the latter, do not post."

are we going to go over this again?

by davethebutcher on Apr 13, 2008 6:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

since the beginning of time...

you like some players. you dont like some players. that simple. that is all.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

if you want to hate someone

go for it, but I think the rules are saying that if your posting on this board back up your hatred or don't post it. LBoros goes over it here - http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2008/4/8/390769/fists-of-fury

by davethebutcher on Apr 13, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

my mistake on the initial post

i do have a terrible tendency to knee jerk post, i'm going to start sitting on my hands during games

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 13, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

this might be quick

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Apr 13, 2008 6:50 PM EDT reply actions  

Ouch

Skip, come on man! Where is the clutch hit?

I guess I'll have to be happy with 4-3 :P. How many sweet comebacks can the cards be expected to make?

by TheBirds on Apr 13, 2008 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

I strategically

put on the radio in the other room, so I could hear Skip successfully ground out to first.

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

Pitiful

Miles and Skip. Proves that grittiness doesn't win ball games.

In the unlikely story that is Rick Ankiel, there has never been anything false about hope.

by drewsilv on Apr 13, 2008 6:51 PM EDT reply actions  

oooo

it burns

In the unlikely story that is Rick Ankiel, there has never been anything false about hope.

by drewsilv on Apr 13, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

like aaron miles' hairgel in the eye

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 6:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

Bad decision by Bochy

Albert's career HR % -- 5.94%
Skip's career XBH % -- 6.98%

Albert's scary but putting the tying run on base there was a bad decision he got away with.

by chuckb on Apr 13, 2008 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

Yeah, but...

realistically, Skippy's extra base hits are not hit very hard. What's the chance Pujols scores on one of his doubles?

And really, which would you have your pitcher face - the best hitter in baseball, or a AAAA player?

by DiscoJer on Apr 13, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

First -- there were 2 outs

it's possible I guess that one of those doubles might be a bloop double that would have held Pujols at third but, w/ 2 outs, he's running on contact and will score on a double 90% or more of the time.

As to your 2nd point, that's not the question. Of course, you'd rather face Skip Schumaker than Albert Pujols but it's not a fair comparison. You're facing Pujols w/ the tying run at the plate and Skip w/ the tying run on 1st base. There's a big difference. I'll also add that Skip is a better hitter than he was when he first came up so, if anything, I understated his likelihood of hitting an XBH. Pujols' numbers, on the other hand, are probably a very accurate measure of his likelihood to hit a homer as there's a bigger sample to work w/ and he's basically the same player he was last year or the year before.

As to The Birds' comment above about it "working out," that's results-oriented decision-making. It's not a good decision b/c it worked out. It's a bad decision regardless of what Skip did. We know he's going to fail more often than not. So will Albert. The percentages were better pitching to Albert, as scary as that may be, than in pitching to Skip.

by chuckb on Apr 13, 2008 9:55 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

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REALLY screwed the pooch there.

by liam on Apr 13, 2008 6:52 PM EDT reply actions  

To clarify

went from the pitching change to a wide shot of K-Mac warming up. Then back to more commercials.

Infuriating.

by liam on Apr 13, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

My CW

didn't even show me Skip's groundout.

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 6:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Me neither.

But I did get to see a preview of "Farmer Needs a Wife," in which one of the "hot city girls" said, "I didn't know roosters were real!"

by liam on Apr 13, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ahh...KMac is in

seems like KMac has found osme of his control again.

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 6:53 PM EDT reply actions  

I think

you're thinking of the wrong guy

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by stltrav09 on Apr 13, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

i wonder

if they have a kenedy or izturis fathead, it would be almost like watching them field in real life

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

Seriously?

They're both above average with the leather.

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 6:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

ok, on the bench, we have.

Larue is all right?

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 13, 2008 6:55 PM EDT reply actions  

and Izturis

if we need a pinch hitter I say go with Wainer.

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by stltrav09 on Apr 13, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Izturis

is ready to pinch-walk.

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

What happened with Piniero?

Did he lose control and start leaving it up?

by RayMonD! on Apr 13, 2008 6:56 PM EDT reply actions  

terrible defense behind him + bloop hits

and he was missing his location alot

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 13, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

He started leaving it up in the 1st inning

He hung quite a few breaking balls. Then he got shelled, and, when combined with Rico's error, it was brutal 5-run inning.

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 6:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rico's error

wasnt it ruled a hit?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 13, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

How many is that this series?

He jobbed Wellemeyer into a bushel of earned runs, too.

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 7:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

Calling the skip non-grab was prety defensible--it was a very hard play he barely missed

The Rico play was kind of absurd. There is almost no wa that's not an error. The Albert Buckner play was also clearly an error

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by Valatan on Apr 13, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Was it?

It was. No error on the official box. Good catch and my mistake.

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

no kiddin

that was fun to look forward to to see if the sunday streak was going

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 6:58 PM EDT up reply actions  

Prereqs

I think having albert start on a sunday is a prereq for slug-fest sundays.

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 6:59 PM EDT up reply actions  

Rick Horton

is a terrible broadcaster, and slightly racist/ignorant. I would like to never have to listen to him again.

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 6:59 PM EDT reply actions  

whoops

meant to say: What did he say?

by davethebutcher on Apr 13, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

What pushed me over the edge

Was talking about Eugenio Velez. "Can't we just call him 'Gene'? That would be a lot easier" "It's not like he would know if we called him 'Gene'"

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 7:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't know

If I would call that racist, but it is definitely insensitive. Especially since baseball has given us some of the most fun names to yell.

by davethebutcher on Apr 13, 2008 7:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's borderline

if it's not racist, it's coming pretty close.

by chuckb on Apr 13, 2008 9:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

Racist?

I'm not quesitoning, but did I miss something?

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've always liked him

He's low-key and generally knows what he's talking about.

What'd he say that was racist? He was one of the American players who made an effort to learn Spanish in his playing days, so that'd be more than a little surprising.

by liam on Apr 13, 2008 7:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

He said something earlier

That had me in the "He might be prejudiced" mind set, so I was probably more geared to interpret that as racism instead of ignorance. Either way, I don't like him.

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 7:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

That's a stupid comment.

You don't know anything about him. Whitey used to use Ricky as an interpreter for the hispanic players when he played for him. To say that he is racist is just flat stupid. Leave that crap at home.

by etp_stl on Apr 13, 2008 7:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

He should have elaborated

on why he referred to him as a racist, but the comment was pretty darn close. See above.

by chuckb on Apr 13, 2008 9:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Actually, I'm in the wrong

The comment was insensitive, at least, but I don't know the man, and I shouldn't have let my opinion of the comment or his job skills influence me in any way to make a comment on the man personally. I should have kept it off the boards, etp was right. My apologies to Mr. Horton.

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 10:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

nice apology

and fair enough. Maybe you should've said that the comment was a racist one rather than Horton is a racist. Still, I think etp's comment was over the top considering the circumstances and the discussion of Horton's comment does have a place here.

by chuckb on Apr 13, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

I appreciate the apology.

I don't believe that it is racist to say it is easier to call him Gene. I don't know him personally, but his history is clearly not that of a racist individual. I may have reacted harshly, but that is because I think that is too damning a characterization to allow it to be applied flippantly. Sorry. If you have more than one instance that indicates that that characterization is correct, then I am willing to listen. Until then, be careful what terms you throw around.

I apologize if it seemed as though I were censoring you, but the topic is more important than most that are discussed here. It is more necessary to provide factual based evidence when you are attacking a man's character, than when you are attacking his play on the field.

To houston, I don't believe my comment to be over the top given the circumstances. I did not attack Midwestside personally, nor did I indicate that I felt he shouldn't post in the future. I simply felt that he made an extremely inappropriate remark, and it was made too flippantly. He wasn't discussing Horton's comments, but instead editorializing on the man in general.

by etp_stl on Apr 14, 2008 1:57 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree w/ your last statement

and that, as I said above, his comments should've been about Horton's COMMENTS and not about Horton, himself. That said, calling the comments "racist" is justifiable considering what was said.

by chuckb on Apr 14, 2008 8:22 AM EDT up reply actions  

Actually,

the comments were not "racist" in that he was not talking talking about race in the least. As Midwest said above, you could term it "insensitive," or you could define it as ethnocentric. The fact that an individual speaks a different language has nothing to do with race. No one would identify making fun of a french or german name as "racist," as their respective races are still anglo-saxon in origin. At worst you could define it as "anglocist," implying that Horton shows favoritism toward english-speaking players and persons.

I know that's semantics, but in this case semantics are what the discussion is about. The choice of wording was the issue for both Horton, Midwest, and yourself.

by etp_stl on Apr 14, 2008 9:28 AM EDT up reply actions  

An inexcusable gaff, on my part.

Obviously, I should have said "caucasian in origin," and not "anglo-saxon in origin." Inexcusable when making reference to correting semantics.

It also made me realize that the tone and tenor of my last response was unnecessary. It was condescending, and it added little to the discussion. I apologize for that. It sounds like we all agree that the statement may have been inappropriate, but that one statement should not be used to characterize a man. I absolutely agree that the validity and value of an individual statement made by a broadcaster should be up for debate and discussion.

by etp_stl on Apr 14, 2008 2:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

Flores

He has been pleasantly, surprisingly, effective this young season.

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

Alright boys!

time for some ninth inning magic!

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 7:01 PM EDT reply actions  

we need

brian jordan or some ron gant right now, some gaetti wouldn't be bad either

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

didn't pujols rake in sunday games last year??? I would of started him today if i were TLR because they have a day off tomorrow anyway and he should of rested pujols after the first game in the SF series.

Cardwash - Cardinal, Washington fan (Washington???? Yeah, I know)

by cardwash on Apr 13, 2008 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

gotta show duncan at 1st

for a possible trad with em, they want a lefty 1b

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 7:03 PM EDT up reply actions  

It'll be

a tough row to hoe in the ninth, but I still see this as winnable!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 13, 2008 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Not that they've lost yet

but I hate when days off follow a loss. I'd imagine it's even worse for the players.

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 13, 2008 7:02 PM EDT reply actions  

Wouldn't it be nice

if we coudl rough up Brian Wilson?

"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams

by Valatan on Apr 13, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

Brian Wilson?

Wasnt he one of the beach boys?

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 7:03 PM EDT reply actions  

He also

let Charles Manson live with him for a while. Introduced him to a producer who didn't like his music.

Later on, Manson sent his minions to murder everyone inside the house where the producer lived, which had by then been sold to Roman Polanski.

I swear that all of that is true, except for the part about which Brian Wilson we're talking about.

by liam on Apr 13, 2008 7:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

shoe in mouth

hopefully raggin on him has sparked him

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Grit!

Never say "die" Grit Miles starts off the rally...

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

Ole Grits and Gravy does it again!

I like how the ball stopped rolling 15-20 feet into the outfield.

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 7:04 PM EDT reply actions  

crazy

if we don't get some runs over, we're gonna look real bad

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Whew

Ludwick was swingin for the fences...

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 7:06 PM EDT reply actions  

Wow

Wilson throwin some heat...

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

OH

I dunno about that call...

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

You've

gotta be kidding me.

In the unlikely story that is Rick Ankiel, there has never been anything false about hope.

by drewsilv on Apr 13, 2008 7:07 PM EDT reply actions  

Whoa

That looked low to me.

by six on Apr 13, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

That

IS NOT A STRIKE

In the unlikely story that is Rick Ankiel, there has never been anything false about hope.

by drewsilv on Apr 13, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

WHAT THE H*#@?????

Hey, It's Enrico Pulazzo!

"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams

by Valatan on Apr 13, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Where

Is this strike zone?

In the unlikely story that is Rick Ankiel, there has never been anything false about hope.

by drewsilv on Apr 13, 2008 7:08 PM EDT reply actions  

Lol

where the giants pitcher throw the ball....

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 7:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

That was absolute BS.

That ball was shoelace high when it reached the plate.

by etp_stl on Apr 13, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

bullshit call

little home cookin

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by stltrav09 on Apr 13, 2008 7:09 PM EDT reply actions  

WHATTT

In the unlikely story that is Rick Ankiel, there has never been anything false about hope.

by drewsilv on Apr 13, 2008 7:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

This umpire is garbage

Two terrible strike 3 calls, and then he stares down Duncan as he walks away.

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 7:10 PM EDT reply actions  

LOL

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by stltrav09 on Apr 13, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

lol

wha? 1 and 0 to washington?

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Outrageous

This is a black mark on MLB. Horrible.

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Giants announcers:

"The Giants catch a break" (on the strike call)

"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams

by Valatan on Apr 13, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

How

Is that not a strike then?

In the unlikely story that is Rick Ankiel, there has never been anything false about hope.

by drewsilv on Apr 13, 2008 7:11 PM EDT reply actions  

Wilson

touched 100mph on that pitch...supposedly

by brindled on Apr 13, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions  

and why isn't TLR out there arguing?

Defend your players man

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 13, 2008 7:12 PM EDT reply actions   1 recs

agreed

In the unlikely story that is Rick Ankiel, there has never been anything false about hope.

by drewsilv on Apr 13, 2008 7:12 PM EDT up reply actions  

yeah good idea

let's piss off the ump for the rest of the season by doing what umps hate most - arguing balls and strikes

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by stltrav09 on Apr 13, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

i'm glad you aren't the coach

if that's how you think

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 13, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah, we'd hate for him

To get so mad he starts calling the strike zone accurately

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

Well

when they make terrible calls, they need to be held accountable.

In the unlikely story that is Rick Ankiel, there has never been anything false about hope.

by drewsilv on Apr 13, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

It is a great idea.

If this ump is going to have his head up his arse, then he should be questioned. Too soft a stance to take.

by etp_stl on Apr 13, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

We didn't play very well, but

damn we got hosed in the 9th. Absolutely crap.

by etp_stl on Apr 13, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

ROBOT UMPIRES!

The only way to avoid worthless pieces of human trash influencing things they should have no influence over

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 7:13 PM EDT reply actions  

No.

Just discipline that kind of crap. The league should have to review that.

by etp_stl on Apr 13, 2008 7:14 PM EDT up reply actions  

I agree

ROOOOBOTS!!!!! big shiny ones. painted like a baseball.

by birdsonbat on Apr 13, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

I don't care if they're just bright green cameras

But human umpires have long outlived their usefulness or necessity.

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 7:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Oh well, a 4-3 road trip isn't awful...

although it's a bit unacceptable to lose 2 games to the Giants. I'm scared about facing the Brewers lineup though, since the freakin Giants put up quite a few runs on us.

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 13, 2008 7:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Would've preferred a win

but at least the team will face the Brewers with a chip on their shoulders.

by liam on Apr 13, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

that was

a very dissapointing job by the home plate umpire, this is a perfect time when instant replay could come in handy, either way, that was a bullshit call

by from First to Third on Apr 13, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

Well...

It obviously wasn't our day. I hate losing, but we'll get 'em next time. We still finished with a winning record on the road trip and fought like hell through the bloops, bad umpiring and AAA lineup. I'm proud of 'em.

by mattisnotfrench on Apr 13, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

State of the Game

11 players LOB by the Cards

by bgh on Apr 13, 2008 7:15 PM EDT reply actions  

absolutely

In the unlikely story that is Rick Ankiel, there has never been anything false about hope.

by drewsilv on Apr 13, 2008 7:15 PM EDT up reply actions  

State of the road trip

too...

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 13, 2008 7:18 PM EDT up reply actions  

Umpiring across all of baseball has been terrible this year...

The umpires screwed the Phillies out of a win earlier today. Mark DeRosa hit a HR that was pretty obviously foul, and the umpires called it fair. The Phillies ended up losing by 1

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 13, 2008 7:16 PM EDT reply actions  

A Robot Umpire

Would have known in his robot heart the right call to make

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 7:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

these will...

and their robot feelings will be hurt when the robot managers argue with their robot calls.

by birdsonbat on Apr 13, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

thats

hilarious

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 13, 2008 10:11 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes...

robot hearts always know the right thing to do.

by birdsonbat on Apr 13, 2008 7:21 PM EDT up reply actions  

well

I had fun. I will start bitching when we are down 12 to 0 in the 4th...ah the Marquis days.

by birdsonbat on Apr 13, 2008 7:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Even though we got hosed by Dan Iossagna

It's hard to justify Pineiro's pitching and our batters' (lack of) hitting.

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 7:19 PM EDT reply actions  

Also, Uncle Rico looked pretty blatantly overmatched out there today

his bat speed isn't major league caliber, he couldn't catch up to anything. Lets hope Brendan Ryan comes back soon.

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 13, 2008 7:24 PM EDT reply actions  

At least we can feel warm inside

Knowing someone got something they didn't deserve, in this case, a major league start. That's how we know we're good people, when we give things to people who don't deserve them.

by Midwestside on Apr 13, 2008 7:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

during the Giants post game

which is still on now, they are saying the home plate ump gave the Giants the win in the 9th. how bad were his calls against the Cards batters?

well the mojo didn't work two days in a row. i left again to eat & they still lost. oh well, you can't go 162-0 the boys get a much deserved day off tomorrow.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson AND THAT'S A WINNER!

by gdm426 on Apr 13, 2008 7:50 PM EDT reply actions  

I think the issue

was that his strike zone seemed to change in the 9th...pitches that were balls earlier in the game became strikes in the 9th.

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 13, 2008 7:55 PM EDT up reply actions  

Yeah..

but that 3rd strike to Ludwick in the 9th was closer to his ankles than the strike zone...

by DiscoJer on Apr 13, 2008 8:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

I didn't say it was a good strike zone...

=)

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Apr 13, 2008 8:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

I disagree

the 3rd strike to Ludwick was borderline -- could've gone either way. The one to Duncan was, at least, 4 inches outside -- probably closer to 6.

by chuckb on Apr 13, 2008 9:58 PM EDT up reply actions   1 recs

i think

he called a higher or the same pitch a ball in the same at bat though

so its terrible, terrible, terrible

stupid umps

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by ihavebadknees on Apr 13, 2008 10:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Maybe

but that pitch also might've been inside. The strike 3 pitch was right down the middle, about knee high. The other one, though higher, might've been inside. Either way, the Duncan pitch was far worse than those 2.

by chuckb on Apr 13, 2008 11:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

Silver Lining

at least we have seen that the cardinals are not giving up late in games with large defecits. down 5 and 4 run late in the games today, we still battled and won one and had a chance at winning another.

It's nice to see that we are showing resilience, no matter the score or inning.

"Them Cubbies can kiss my ass" -Dizzy Dean

by Molina4MVP on Apr 13, 2008 8:55 PM EDT reply actions  

and

hits, risp, and while P' gave up a few runs, in all fairness he could have gotten out earler/tony could have pulled him sooner.

i'd much rather lose like this than game one of the series, and a hell of a lot more than tie in the top of the 9th just to allow a home run in the bottom half.

Brew crew worries me though

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 13, 2008 10:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan Ludwick

has an OPS of around 1.100 right now. Small sample sizes, I know this, but i'm starting to think Luddy may be starting to realize that potential that he was touted as having back when he was a prospect. I think he could put up an OPS of around .900 over a full season if given the chance.

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 13, 2008 10:32 PM EDT reply actions  

Ludwick...

has performed well over the first two weeks, but he has a career .783 career OPS in MLB (233 games), and an .846 OPS in the minor leagues (736 games) . I wouldn't set my sights on .900, but if he can repeat last season's .800+ I think he provides some real value to the club.

by dj tanner on Apr 13, 2008 11:43 PM EDT up reply actions  

true, maybe .900 is a bit high...

but I do think he's capable of putting up 25-30 HR's and 80-90 RBI's in a season, if he were to hit 6th for us.

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 13, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

Obviously, that would be great...

I guess I just don't share the same optimism towards Ludwick. Like the guy. Decent player. I just think 15/65/.260 is more likely. And there is certainly value in that as well.

by dj tanner on Apr 14, 2008 12:01 AM EDT up reply actions  

15 homeruns?

Maybe in very limited platooning, otherwise, I think the guy would easily hit 25+ over a full season. He put up the numbers you listed last season, and that was over 300 at bats.

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 14, 2008 12:09 AM EDT up reply actions  

He's hit more than 15 HR in a season

...three times at any level above A ball (and zero times in the majors). Over a nine year career. I think 25+ HRs from him would be a monster season...that no one saw coming.

by dj tanner on Apr 14, 2008 12:21 AM EDT up reply actions  

he'll get playing time as well, with duncs ability to have niggling injuries, platooning, and day offs for the other out feilders there's a reasonable chance he'll have every chance to get some time in, even if he's not starting

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 13, 2008 11:46 PM EDT reply actions  

Right...but,

it still seems unrealistic to think that Ludwick can post a .900 OPS given all the opportunity in the world. OF's with .900+ OPSs have names like Holliday, Granderson, Ordonez and Vlad the Impaler.

by dj tanner on Apr 13, 2008 11:54 PM EDT up reply actions  

900+ is a bit high

But I don't think 25 homers is. Like someone said, he basically got half a season last year and hit 15...and I've liked him at the plate so far. Career stats say no. Last year's stats say yes. My eyes say yes. I guess I put more stock in the latter two in Ludwick's case.

by mojowo11 on Apr 14, 2008 1:16 AM EDT up reply actions  

the yanks

home of former once hot commodity Cubs

La troy
Kyle i broke my leg farnsworth who both got into jams tonight...melky made a great catchy bailing farnsy out of ne further damage.

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Apr 13, 2008 11:52 PM EDT reply actions  

at the game today

It was clear that MIles is not a shortstop and Washington is not a 3B.
Both missed/botched catchable balls that cost us runs.

by leftcoastfan on Apr 14, 2008 4:20 AM EDT reply actions  

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2012 1/4 Season stat check writeup
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NL teams and their AL counterparts
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Diagosing the Cause of My Albert Pujols Schadenfreude
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Poll: Best Age Bracket in Baseball? (Game 1)
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VEB day discussion thread
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STL Cardinals Watch Party and Ticket Giveaway!!
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Shane Robinson vs. Stan Musial

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