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Game 11 Open Thread: April 11, 2008

St. Louis @ San Francisco


Lohse Zito
1-0, 0.00 0-2, 6.30

the cards have lost the first game of every series this year except the nationals series. for whatever that's worth.

i'm not gonna be near the computer tonight, so i'm gonna use one of the nifty new SBN 2.0 features and program an overflow thread to open automatically at 11:15 p.m. CDT. the feature was buggy at first, but i think i trust it now; hope it works.

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does anyone know

if tomorrow's (sat) game is on mlb extra innings"

im planning my day around the gator's orange and blue game

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 11, 2008 8:26 PM EDT   0 recs

not televised at all

according to the Post-Dispatch. Fox has the rights but didn't pick it up (Yankees vs. Red Sox).

by enoscountry on Apr 11, 2008 8:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

god damn fox

they screw us everytime

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 11, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

thanks for the info

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 11, 2008 8:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It is on at 10:15

and for Extra Innings people with InDemand, it is Game Channel 9.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 11, 2008 9:36 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I noticed that as well lboros...

let's hope this series has the same result as the other 2 series where we lost the first game.

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 11, 2008 8:29 PM EDT   0 recs

tonight i will be quoting from waynes world 2 in case of

bad moments...to start...Gordon street i once knew a girl who lived on Gordon street..That one fine day on Gordon street(rip charlton heston)

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Apr 11, 2008 8:46 PM EDT   0 recs

went to a hs game today

and was reminded of a reason why I love the game. From about 5th grade up tp the bigs certain things remain. I'm not sure you can say that for all sports maybe but baseball you really can.

I knew the starting pitcher and watched him play good kid good arm, but a soph facing 8 srs one soph...no worries

Heres what i gathered...Walks and errors will kill you. any time any level. You can ovid the occasional walk, He started the game with a walk guy stole second, error on through going into center...guy goes to 3rd...sac run scores 1-0. ground ball to 3rd should be an out ole'd and missed guy on first..next batter was his only mistake(and hit), hit out of park. then walk another steal error..and he steadily started to miss the strike zone after that..not by much but did

he was pulled down 3-0 in the first of what could have been way different..

I don't care who you are how old but playing like that gets you burnt 9 out of 10.

I guess thats why i love baseball and miss it more than any other sport I played. You can know how to win the game, but you have to execute it. Theres probably more sides to it than that but just my 2 cents

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Apr 11, 2008 8:55 PM EDT   0 recs

my guess/pick for tonight's lineup

1. Barton lf
2. Ankiel cf
3. Pujols 1b
4. Glaus 3b
5. Ludwick rf
6. Molina c
7. Miles 2b
8. Lohse p
9. Izturis ss

Get well Brendan Ryan's ribs.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Apr 11, 2008 9:01 PM EDT   0 recs

Zito

I realize that this time last year, the Giants were still trying to build some veteran presence around Bonds. I also understand Zito's prior performance, relative market value and SF desire to keep fans in the seats.

With all that said - and in hindsight - and given prior discussion, including that from SF fans - has there ever been a more horrible free agent investment than Zito?

by Hinkster on Apr 11, 2008 9:08 PM EDT   0 recs

Carl Pavano?

I dont think he even had to pitch for the Yankees to earn his checks.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 11, 2008 9:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

true

but pavano's contract didn't seem to restrict yankee spending too much. zito's deal verges on crippling.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Apr 11, 2008 9:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

restrictions

has there been a contract yet (albatross or no) that really restricted the Yankees from spending too much on a FA?

I agree that Pavano's contract really wasnt that much, but he hasnt done a whole lot to earn much of it. Sound familiar?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 11, 2008 9:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that's what i mean

pavano's contract didn't hurt the yankees ability to spend. zito's is quite the burden for the giants.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Apr 11, 2008 9:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

thats kinda a no brainer

who has more cash Yanks or Giants? good point worth mentioning about the deals though

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Apr 11, 2008 9:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Pavano

What I will always remember about Pavano after his great Marlin season was his "I'm a hot stud and I will take a private plane tour of various suitors around the league until someone (the Yankees) wins the beauty contest" - it was almost as if he were begging for a fall.............which he got

by Hinkster on Apr 11, 2008 9:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i always remember mike hampton

as the worst contract ever, but this could be close

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 11, 2008 9:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

nah i say hampton

was just thinking about that today what has he done since he left the mets?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Apr 11, 2008 9:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

oh yeah

without hitting the worng post button - Cards went after him hard as I recall - Hampton made a poor choice that evidently worked ultimately in Cards favor - as an Astro and Met, he was red hot - since then, a check casher

by Hinkster on Apr 11, 2008 9:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

memory

if my memory serves, i thought we offered him around $80mm. if that's right, what a relief.

by sra on Apr 11, 2008 9:33 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

memory

if my memory serves, after being a stud with Htn and then for Mets for half a season, Walt offered him more than the Rockies but he chose Colorado for "family reasons" - Hampton would have been the pre-Mulder but became the ineffective and injured Rockie turned Brave - funny how things work out

by Hinkster on Apr 11, 2008 9:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Russ Ortiz?

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on Apr 11, 2008 9:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

and if you didn't like that post

I thought I would reminesce about my earliest memories of Stl at SF baseball..........always from Candlestick Park..........Jack and Mike.....they always talked about the cold weather and wind......the Giants featured Tito Fuentes at 2b, Gaylord Perry or Juan Marichal on the mound.............McCovey at first, Mays in center and Bobby (not Barry) in right..............an indelible image is Mays in center leaping over Bonds in right (on the track) to make a classic catch........against what seemed at the time to be a chain linked fence...........have seen it a few times on greatest catches ever....in those days (1970s) - it was the Big Red Machine (Cards or Pirates in second) versus the West

by Hinkster on Apr 11, 2008 9:18 PM EDT   0 recs

okay

I'm too old for this group.........but I like posting for myself..........Good job Hinkster!.......Thanks, Hinkster!

by Hinkster on Apr 11, 2008 9:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hinkster

go to bed............please

by Hinkster on Apr 11, 2008 9:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

5 things you will hear in tonights game!

1. Heal your home with helitech.
2. Barry Bonds is not playing with the Giants anymore.
3. Someone needs to hit in front of Albert.
4. Someone needs to hit behind Albert.
5. Itzuris goes yard!!!

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 11, 2008 9:26 PM EDT   0 recs

nice

6. Al: That's 7 1/3 no hit ball for Zito.
Dan: And on 41 pitches.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Apr 11, 2008 9:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

okay, I'm red hot tonight

after Barry Bonds and Jeffrey Leonard - who are your all-time hated Giants?

by Hinkster on Apr 11, 2008 9:29 PM EDT   0 recs

mmmm

i dont hate barry bonds.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 11, 2008 9:29 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

what about lofton?

he's not really a giant but that 2002 playoff was torture.

by enoscountry on Apr 11, 2008 9:47 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Didn't he run through the door

Making a barehanded catch in LF?

Tracking the Cards' playoff chances daily: http://www.baseballprospectus.com/statistics/Cardinalspsodds.php

by ColinMacLeod on Apr 11, 2008 10:19 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I was just rooting for Brad Lidge

I'm very confused about the feelings I was just having.

by cloistermaximus on Apr 11, 2008 9:36 PM EDT   0 recs

kiss your sister!

shame on you!

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 11, 2008 9:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Lineup

Schumaker CF,
Barton LF,
Pujols 1B,
Glaus 3B,
Ludwick RF,
Molina C,
Miles 2B,
Lohse P,
Izturis SS.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 11, 2008 9:40 PM EDT   0 recs

i see the reasoning for the lineup, keeping people

active and giving ankiel a day off. but it's tough to have a lineup w/ such little pop.

by infallibleopiniongenerator on Apr 11, 2008 9:42 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

are you suggesting...

That duncan starts instead of Barton to get more pop?

by Evilfrog on Apr 11, 2008 9:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yawn....

boring.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 11, 2008 9:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe next game

I'm still waiting for Glaus to get a day off so Uncle Rico can get his first start.

by Big Phil on Apr 11, 2008 9:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Where are they now?

Late-inning replacement for Pat Burrell, So Taguchi, was seen just moments ago dropping a catchable fly ball in the 9th inning as Lidge and the Phils sink the Cubs, 5-3.
What happens when your defensive specialist can't play defense any more? We saw some of that from him last season.

by Urban Pawnee on Apr 11, 2008 9:49 PM EDT   0 recs

if burrell keeps slugging like he's doing, so will find himself out of a job.

The phillies would rather have a defensive slouch who can hit than one who cant.

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2008 9:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

feel my wrath!

do not disgrace the good name of #99!!!

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 11, 2008 9:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

So is somebody who I feel a deep personal liking for.

I was really sad when he went to Philly, of all places, where the fans will not likely give him a chance. But he is going to be 39 this summer. Edmonds has lost more than a few steps in the outfield at that age too. This is So's last year in the bigs.

I really admire the way he plays the game. I'm more sad than critical about this. But there's no point denying it.

by tom s. on Apr 11, 2008 9:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

In tomorrow night's game

So will substitute in LF for Pat Burrell and the game-tying run will score from 2nd when So three-hops a throw to the 3B who cuts off the throw. I love So but it was time for him to go.

by houstoncardinal on Apr 11, 2008 9:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

mil, chi both lose

again, cards will remain alone in first with a loss

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Apr 11, 2008 9:52 PM EDT   0 recs

and

even further in first with a WIN!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 11, 2008 9:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

and

a half game more in first with a rain out?

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 11, 2008 10:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Per Matthew Leach

TLR has strongly hinted that it'll be Jimenez who's sent out when Piñiero's activated. It will not be K-Mac.

Click click

by liam on Apr 11, 2008 10:01 PM EDT   0 recs

Should that have even been in question?

Mac is shaky but Jiminez is awful.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Apr 11, 2008 10:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's the right move

but it's still news.

Suppose that means Rauschenberger goes back to AA.

by liam on Apr 11, 2008 10:08 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i think we are going to win tonight!

you with me? whoo!

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 11, 2008 10:04 PM EDT   0 recs

i think we are going to play a game tonight

YEAH

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 11, 2008 10:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm with ya!

I just hope Zito try's to throw his 87(?) mph fastball by the Mang. Of course, I want to see MOB when it happens. One would be okay, two would be nice, three would be stupendous!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 11, 2008 10:07 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I wasnt sure

but thats pretty close for a guess.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 11, 2008 10:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

slow night at work?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Apr 11, 2008 10:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i'm off

if you want to watch the game and need the info, send me a txt.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 11, 2008 10:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

playing xbox?

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Apr 11, 2008 10:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

game's on foo!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 11, 2008 10:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

ha

I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Apr 11, 2008 10:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

are

you playin?

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 11, 2008 10:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

xbox?

i play live alot....you play too?

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 11, 2008 10:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

DMB

i do not care about dave mathews!

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 11, 2008 10:05 PM EDT   0 recs

Hey Guys...

who wants some fresh biscuits?

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 11, 2008 10:11 PM EDT   0 recs

me too.

ive had him for the whole season so far. got him in the last round.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 11, 2008 10:12 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

god i really hate missing the first pitch

damn

i take your signatures and use them as away messages

by ihavebadknees on Apr 11, 2008 10:14 PM EDT   0 recs

c'mon boys!

lets get started!

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 11, 2008 10:15 PM EDT   0 recs

I hate it when

the opposing teams broadcast is in HD and ours isn't

by TxCardFan on Apr 11, 2008 10:16 PM EDT   0 recs

guess i shouldn't complain

I am watching the Birds on TV even though I'm 700 miles away. Sweet!!

by TxCardFan on Apr 11, 2008 10:18 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Bring him home Albert!

Lets jump on Mr. 126 early

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 11, 2008 10:19 PM EDT   0 recs

87

he touched 87 a couple pitches ago.

C'mon you Redbirds, lets prove em' wrong, again!

by yer dog first on Apr 11, 2008 10:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

here we go.

albert walks. shocker!

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 11, 2008 10:25 PM EDT   0 recs

lol

dang.

I am the only/last Anthony Reyes fan!

by dangpenguins on Apr 11, 2008 10:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs