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Izturis is quietly contributing, as predicted here....

It took awhile for Cesar Izturis to get the rust out in spring training.  By the last week of the exhibition games, Izturis executed what Rooney and Shannon called the best defensive play by any player they had seen on any team all March.  Finally, St. Louis fans and sportswriters are coming around to recognizing that Cesar Izturis is an exceptional fielding shortstop (always has been, except when he was having hamstring problems or suffering from an ailing elbow that required ligament replacement in 2005).

But the misperception continues that Izturis is "the worst hitter in baseball", as some have claimed  This despite the fact that Cesar continues to show good plate discipline, with few strikeouts, a good number of walks, and a tendency to hit solid line drives.  Cesar has never had much power at all, but, for the Cardinals so far in this budding season, he has been getting on base and not giving up AB's, which is primarily what the Cards want their #9 hitter to do batting behind the pitcher and ahead of Pujols:

After 10 games of the regular season, Izturis has an OBP of .394, better than every player on the team with more than 12 AB's, other than Pujols.

But Izturis has a SLG of only .308 (his line drives have been caught most of the time so far).  That should go up if he keeps hitting line drives.  At this early stage, Cesar's SLG is better than that of Duncan, Kennedy, and Miles.  And his OPS of .702 is better than that of Duncan, Schumaker, Kennedy, and Miles.

An earlier indication that Izturis had regained his timing as a hitter was that Izturis had a BA of .300 and OBP of .417 in the Cardinals' last nine games of spring training, when the Redbirds and other teams were playing their regulars for the final tune-up for the season (after the Cardinal brass met on a day off, March 19, to make key decisions on the final roster).

People continue to ignore the fact that the last time Izturis was healthy, in 2004 and the first third of 2005, he was a very respectable hitter.  His poor hitting in the last half of 2005 was at a time he was seriously ailing, and his poor hitting during the last half of 2006 was when he was back from major surgery and playing only part time (which may have kept him from regaining his timing).  His poor hitting during the first half of 2007 came at a time when he was again playing only occasionally because he had a prolonged hamstring problem. 

If you examine the pattern of development for Izturis over his career, it becomes evident that after his first two years, when he was pressed into duty for the Dodgers at the age of 22, before he had had time to become a big league hitter, Izturis did, at the age of 24, become a respectable hitter.  The last stretch of his career when Izturis was fully healthy and playing full time, at the age of only 24 and 25, his batting average was .301 and his OBP was a very respectable .344.

Given the persistence of the perception that Cesar can't hit at all, it's worth repeating that his .344 OBP came in 889 consecutive AB's over the season and a third in 2004 and 2005, before his physical problems began (elbow, hamstring, etc.). Izturis' AB's in this period amount to 33% of his career total of 2751 AB's before the Cardinals acquired him.  That's too large a sample size of consecutive AB's to ignore, but people continue to do so.... 

Izturis is healthy and playing full time.  Let's give this former Gold Glover and All Star a chance to show what he can do under those conditions rather than reciting over and over the notion that he can not make an important contribution to the Cardinals this year.

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The lynchpin of your argument is Izturis' relatively high obp (.394). If he keeps up the current rate, I think everyone would agree with you that he's "quietly contributing"--good enough to keep on the team, but not good enough to keep indefinitely. At some point, though, he will need to contribute by swinging the bat, and not just by keeping it on his shoulder.

However, if his obp returns to career levels,i.e. > .300, that .230 average will be more exposed.

So says, Titus Pullo (formerly The Dude)

by Titus Pullo on Apr 11, 2008 10:45 AM EDT   0 recs

well, i sorta disagree with both of you.

first of all, if cesar izturis maintains a .394 obp all year, that would not be "quietly contributing" - that would be a very solid leadoff hitter, and i would argue loudly that he be re-signed, regardless of his avg or slg or whether he ever "contribute[s] by swinging the bat, and not just by keeping it on his shoulder."

however, as others have commented, he's not going to keep up that .394 obp. it has been 10 games, and after another 100 we will be glad for brendan ryan.

e'rebuilding mang

by nycbirdo on Apr 11, 2008 12:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Yeah

if he keeps his .394 OBP, with his defense, he could have been a candidate for the all star team in the days before Hanley Ramirez and Tejada began lurking in the NL. That would make this signing Mo's steal of the off-season.

I doubt it will happen, but...

"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams

by Valatan on Apr 11, 2008 12:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Good lord

It's been 10 games. You don't judge anything in baseball on ten games. This could be the sign of an actual change in approach (seeing more pitches, working the count, etc.), or it could be a random blip caused by simply pitchers with less than stellar control on given days.

Yes, he's been good defensively. I think you'd be hard pressed to find anyone who thought he couldn't make some contribution on that side. However, if the dude puts up a .250/.300/.380 line or something then he's part of the Cardinals problem (too little offense at the bottom of the order) and not part of any solution. Oh, and did I mention that Brendan Ryan is much cheaper and much faster?

"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.

by redbirdnation8206 on Apr 11, 2008 10:57 AM EDT   0 recs

It has been ten games

and if you didn't notice, Izturis ran the bases like a middle schooler yesterday. You will be wrong, and hopefully our SS will be anyone other than Izturis by the end of the year.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Apr 11, 2008 10:58 AM EDT   0 recs

your pro-Izturis bias is shining-

There is no way you can properly asses ALREADY that Cesar is an upgrade at shorstop. If you were to make these comments in a couple months and still had numbers to back you up, then I'd probably agree. But right now is the epitome of sample size so just wait a little while and see what happens.

Miguel Cabrera is only .182 so he's clearly a big downgrade for Detroit!

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Apr 12, 2008 2:11 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I missed it

what happened?

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Apr 12, 2008 2:06 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

izturis + line drives

the point about cesar's plate discipline is well taken, but the available stats don't back up the claim about line drives. according to baseball-reference's splits page, izturis has hit 4 line drives so far this year, 3 for base hits (that includes last night's double). baseball-ref's batted-ball data come from Retrosheet. link at http://www.baseball-reference.com/pi/bsplit.cgi?n1=izturce01&year=2008#hitty-traj

fangraphs also provides batted-ball-type data, using a different source, Baseball Info Solutions. they credit cesar with 5 line drives so far. they don't track hits / outs per batted-ball type. link at http://www.fangraphs.com/statss.aspx?playerid=656&position=SS

by lboros on Apr 11, 2008 11:12 AM EDT   0 recs

Two line drives last night alone

I'm surprised the stats show so few line drives for Izturis in the first ten games. Last night alone he got two hits on line drives, as indicated by gameday (I can attest to those drives, since I was watching the game on Bay Area cable TV).

I trust the accuracy of baseball-reference.com, though. I refer to it often. The major league norm for line drives is about 20% of balls put into play, I understand. I'll check on Izturis' line drive percentage for his career and in 2004, when I get a chance - I DO have to focus on work! If you have the data handy for that analysis, I'd be interested.

Ozzie Smith turned himself from one of the worst hitters in MLB into a very solid contributor offensively by altering his swing to maximize line drives, as others described recently on VEB. Might Izturis do the same? Does Cesar's sudden flurry of walks in these first few games indicate that he is adopting an improved approach at the plate? It might be revealing to track this....

by CardsWin on Apr 11, 2008 2:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

the improved walk rate

is the most encouraging thing that i see. if he can put up a .350 on-base pct, then i can live with the .330 slugging avg. at least he'd be competent at one of the two primary offensive skills, getting on base ---- if you pair that with good defense at shortstop, then he's worth twice what they paid for him.

per fangraphs, izturis's career line-drive rate is 21.2 pct (slightly above normal); so far this year he's at 18.5 pct. the thing that jumps out so far is that he's really cut his flyball rate down, which is a very good thing --- he's not strong enough to hit flyballs into the gap or over the wall, so flyballs are nearly automatic outs for him. he needs to slap the ball ---- sharp grounders, line drives ---- and so far this year he appears to be trying to do that.

by lboros on Apr 12, 2008 10:11 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The flyball rate and the Ozzie Smith reference.

That is interesting that you reference Izturis' need to cut down on flyballs in response to the Ozzie reference above. That was actually one of the key ingredients to Ozzie's turnaround. When he first came to St. Louis, Herzog actually fined him something like $1 for every ball hit in the air. This was try to enforce the idea that you are referencing. Every time I watch the movie Major League it reminds of that story. If Izturis becomes a competent singles/doubles hitter with an OBP in the neighborhood of .340+, then his defense will make him an asset. I still believe the Cards need to find a long term solution at that position, but they can survive with that level of production. His cost is relatively low.

by etp_stl on Apr 12, 2008 10:52 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

.394 OBP

If Izturis maintains anywhere near that OBP, I'll be thrilled. After watching Eckstein at SS the last few season, it's just a joy to watch Izturis in the field. My main problem with Izturis as our starting SS is Kennedy/Miles over at 2nd. A team can deal with one weak hitting middle infielder but not two. When JMo talks about finding another bat for our lineup, I sure as heck hope it's a middle infield bat. We have an OF bat that would be an upgrade sitting down at Memphis so I sure as heck hope the brain trust does not spend money on an aging vet for the OF (as had been their modus operandi during the Jock years).

by jjray on Apr 11, 2008 12:06 PM EDT   0 recs

middle infield

I have been saying that the middle infield is pretty weak offensively for months.

Brendan Ryan, Aaron Miles, Adam Kennedy, Cesar Izturis are not guys who are going to put any fear in pitchers. They just have no pop, if you combine that group you would be lucky to get 10 homeruns in a season.

by ICbirdfan on Apr 11, 2008 12:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't care about HRs ...

from the MI spots. Ankiel, Duncan, Pujols, Glaus, and Ludwick can provide HRs. I need BA, OBP, and defense out of those positions. That said, I don't think we have those kind of guys in house. I don't think Ryan has shown himself to be a significant upgrade in those categories. Hopefully, Hoffpauir will show that he can provide a serious upgrade there at 2B. That still leaves a hole at SS. If Izturis can show Gold Glove talent at SS, then I could live with below average but respectable offensive output this year. Miles only provides BA, and Kennedy just doesn't seem like even his career numbers indicate he will be above average in any of these categories.

by etp_stl on Apr 12, 2008 11:00 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Reasonable expectations for Izturis

Based not just on this season's first 10 games but on how Izturis performed in almost 900 AB's the last time he was healthy and playing full time, we can reasonably expect him to have an OBP and SLG close to what Eckstein had while he was with the Cards, but with much better defense. Eckstein's OPS+ in his last two years with StL was 81 (World Series MVP) and 93. Izturis' OPS+ in his last full season when he was healthy (2004) was 88. At this very early point in the season Eckstein's OPS+ in Toronto is 48. Izturis' OPS so far is 92.

Cesar is an upgrade in SS value added, over last year and the year before.

by CardsWin on Apr 11, 2008 12:25 PM EDT   0 recs

Why are you comparing to Eckstein?

He is irrelevant at this point. Ryan is the player you should be comparing to as he is the one who should be replacing Izturis in a few weeks.

jwilson

by taguchi on Apr 11, 2008 12:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i think you're wrong

10 games in, a year-to-year comparison is valid. and such comparisons are routine on this blog. (ie: Rolen/Glaus, Edmonds, Ankiel). CardsWin's point was that offensively we might break even, defensively Izturis looks like an improvement.
that being said, i'd ike ryan to get a chance as a starter, but i doubt it will happen.

I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.

by _pistol_ on Apr 11, 2008 1:37 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ryan

He needs to start at SS or 2B depeding on who is worse and right now it's Adam Kennedy who would be out.

Adam Kennedy hasn't even hit a ball hard this year.

by ICbirdfan on Apr 11, 2008 1:45 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

not to mention that Ryan will be getting plenty of work as a super sub, considering

that Glaus, and Albert probably need rest, and that Miles, Kennedy and Izturis will all need to be spelled in the infield.

"You say the world has lost it's love. I say embrace what it's made of" - Dar Williams

by Valatan on Apr 11, 2008 1:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ryan at 2B

I'd very much like to see Ryan in a platoon at 2B, at least. His splits vs. LHP are very good and Kennedy is especially weak vs. LHP.

by CardsWin on Apr 11, 2008 2:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

If Kennedy continues at this pace ...

that is probably what you will see. He is still recovering from injury right now, so the point is probably moot. I agree that Ryan's best chance at playing time will be at 2B and 3B. I wish LaRussa's obsession with Miles would subside, but that is just wishful thinking.

by etp_stl on Apr 12, 2008 11:05 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

10 games a career does not make

There is not much to suspect that a man who, over 2,780 career MLB at-bats, has an OBP sub-.300 will sustain a nearly .400 OBP over an entire season. If he does, I will shoot one of the crows that infests my hometown, grill it before our NLDS Game 1 vs. Arizona, and eat it. Neither Eckstein nor Izturis are sluggers; both are slappies. In St. Louis, Eckstein had an OPS of .758 in '05 over 158 games (no injuries), .694 over 128 games in '06 (injuries), and .738 over 117 games last season (injuries). Izturis has never had an OPS over .711 in his career and none over .624 in the last three seasons.

Should we have re-signed Eckstein? Probably not. Through 1/16th of the season, Izturis looks like a good signing. Through 16/16ths of the 2008 season, will he? I highly doubt it. Then again, what do I know? I secretly hoped that we would sign Adam Everett off of the ol' scrap heap.

Hombres verdaderos slide hard.

by bgh on Apr 12, 2008 12:40 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

When Mulder returns might Reyes et. al. be traded for SS?

There are some striking signs (e.g., the PD article by Joe Strauss declaring that another power hitter is needed to back up Pujols) that Mozeliak might make a trade when Mulder returns to clear space on the roster (Pineiro will probably bump Jiminez, but then Springer, Johnson, Kinney, Politte, etc., are all working their way toward the roster). Speculation has already begun that the only place for another power bat would be the middle infield. Given the lack of power hitting SS's available, Kennedy seems the likeliest to be displaced. But by whom?

Meanwhile, might the Angels be enticed to give up a good SS prospect, to give the Cards a strong option for next year?

The Angels are hurting for starting pitching. I wonder if they would make a trade of their SS prospect Sean Rodriguez for Anthony Reyes, if he keeps pitching well in his new bullpen role, (perhaps in a multiple player package from both sides).

Rodriguez last year at AA was an All-Star, with OBP .345, SLG .423, 17 HR in 508 AB.

He was selected by the Anaheim Angels in the third round (90th overall) of the 2003 First-Year Player Draft out of G. Holmes Braddock (Miami, Fla.) High School.

by CardsWin on Apr 11, 2008 2:14 PM EDT   0 recs

Why

would the Angels trade for a middling pitching prospect with any surplus of talent they have? They have a better pitching prospect than Reyes in Adenhart. If they make a trade, it will be for someone much better than Reyes as their pitching needs are now, not allowing for Reyes to develop in a tougher league for pitchers.

by FunkeeC on Apr 11, 2008 2:26 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Iz2 doesn't need a .394 OBP to be valuable...

... if his OBP is somewhere close to .350 (roughly Eck's career #s, and what he did in StL), and his defense remains strong, then he would be a amazingly great pick up. in 2004, Tony Womack's OBP was .349. it would be tremendous if Iz2 could get on base at that rate.

but his career average OBP is .297, and his best offensive year (2004) it was only .330. there is no reason to think that he's going to end up with a .350 OBP, much less a .400 OBP. i hope his new-found plate discipline holds up for awhile, but it can't forever. eventually, he's going to regress to his mean.

so far this year, Iz2 is BBing in nearly 20% of his ABs. that won't continue. it's possible -- maybe even probably -- that his BA picks up, but it's not going to pick up that much.

he can still have some value for the Cards if he could post a .325-.330 OBP with plus defense, and that's what we should be hoping for. that's a reasonable, if optimistic, goal for him. Iz2 putting up a .400 OBP isn't.

by kindred on Apr 11, 2008 6:41 PM EDT   0 recs

Let's be realistic...

Izturis's career high OBP is .330. His career average is under .300.

Yes, it might be .394 now, but at the end of the year we'll be lucky if it's over .300

by DiscoJer on Apr 11, 2008 7:58 PM EDT   0 recs

Izturis has a damn fine glove...

but his bat is just far too weak. Give the job to Ryan and shell out the necessary cash for Rafeal Furcal this offseason.

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Apr 11, 2008 8:32 PM EDT   0 recs

Why would anyone want Rafeal Furcal?

I though we had moved past acquiring high priced diminishing skills veterans. Furcal's career is on the downside. Based on his age, I suspect that Izturis has not reached his peak yet. Izturis is fine right now. And I really don't expect a lot of offense from our middle infielders as long as they play good defense.

Worked for Whitey.

by O'Fallon Park on Apr 12, 2008 8:56 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Izturis is

earning his keep. Of course when you look at 11 games played, it's not like you can't help but be subjective. Would be worth looking back in August/Sept and seeing if everything looks on track.

But if you were to quantify it, there are ways. If we would have resigned David:

Iz is almost 2 million cheaper than David is this year.
*David already has two errors on 43 chances.
*Iz has one on 41 chances.
Everything else is reasonably close. So on fielding merits, it's clear we're getting a deal.

On the hitting side most of the stats are reasonably close.
*David has three more hits, but 6 less walks.
*David has 6 RBI's to Iz's one, but consider the line up spot and who's in front of Iz.
*Iz has a Groundout/Flyout of 1.86, compared to Eck's 4+.

So if you quantify Iz based on resigning David, so far it seems we're getting better defense, and so far, better plate management.

Another way to quantify would be to look at the contenders within the division (reds, cubs, brew) and see where he stacks up against their shortstops.

Keppinger (Reds) on the batting end is quite strong. 375/.524 /.310 but Iz is ahead, or on par with Theriot and Hardy thus far. Lower strike out rate, more walks, better slugging and average.

If he takes on more aggression at the plate then his numbers may suffer, but one thing about that 9 slot is that he doesn't have to generally. Matter in fact, I'd say that it's reasonable to think he could generally keep this line down there, or close to it.

Yeah, Ryan is cheaper. But we're paying Iz regardless, so it seems like a mute issue. However, we're going to be a very large ground ball based team this year. Which is quite obvious, I'd rather have Iz there.

Now all of that being said, I'd love to have Ryan called up. But not for SS by any means.

We have 5 million this year invested in Miles and Kennedy alone. Ryan can play 2nd and should fit in well there without too much defensive let down. He's quicker and can roam across third and first if need be. Duncan can also play first, so personally I would rather drop Miles or Kennedy down or in trade and move Ryan up.

Sometimes I really miss the sheer speed of the 80's. Ironically we actually have a lot of speed in the Cards/AAA, but we're barely going to see it.

Sometimes I wish we could rent Lofton for a month kinda in the same way we did Walker last year. Teach all of this young talent how to maximize the plate and teach them how to aggressively run. Too bad it's not really Tony's forte though, so it'll never happen.

by AdjustedExpectations on Apr 12, 2008 3:09 AM EDT   0 recs

It's been a nice

11 games for Izturis. I was thinking of addressing this in tomorrow's post. Now that would be superfluous. His increased walk rate, should it remain, is something for which he should be commended. However, we've played less than 7% of the season. To anoint him an All-Star at this stage is premature.

by houstoncardinal on Apr 12, 2008 11:49 AM EDT   0 recs

Objective projections for Izturis in 2008

do not indicate he will be an All-Star (given the competition in the NL), nor that he will end up with an OBP of .390.

Projections are one thing. Assessment of performance in a specific time period, for what it is, is another thing. If we say a player had a good game, or made a good play, or had a good at-bat, we don't have to worry about sample size, because we are not making any projection from the sample peformance. We're just assessing it for what it is. But if we do make predictions about a player's performance, then, of course, we do need to have a sufficient sample size of previous performance in order to make reliable predictions.

If we assess Izturis' performance so far this season, it seems evident that so far he has made a respectable contribution on balance. It is what it is, whether for 20 AB's or 30 or whatever. What it will be over the entire season is a different question.

A bias against Izturis is to be found in many comments on VEB and elsewhere. The fact that I call into question that bias does not mean that I have a bias in favor of Izturis. In fact, in projecting Izturis' peformance over all of 2008, I have no bias for or against Izturis. Rather, I am in favor of a rational analysis and reasonable predictions based on relevant, objective data.

In the case of Izturis, we have a sample size of almost 900 consecutive AB's for predicting his hitting performance when he is healthy and playing full time. The most reasonable prediction is that Cesar will perform at the same level again under the same conditions, in 2008.

But that prediction is accepted only by a few and rejected by many, evidently because there is a widespread anti-Izturis bias, apparently based on a simplistic projection of his average performance over his career so far, with seeming disregard for the significant variations in his performance under different circumstances. To discount the dramatic impact that certain factors can have on a player's performance diminishes the predictive power of any projection or prediction. To predict a player's performance from how he performed under very different , important circumstances than he does now is very likely to lead to gross mistakes in the predictions. I believe those who repeatedly predict that Izturis will have an OBP well under .300 are making such a mistake. I think it would be equally mistaken to predict that he will have an OBP of .390 by season's end. The most likely outcome, based on past peformance when he is healthy and playing full time, is that he will have an OBP around .340 or so. That would be quite respectable for a fine fielding shortstop, even in this era.

Yet the conventional wisdom is that Izturis is one of the worst hitters in baseball. If we look more closely than just his simple career averages, we find that in actuality he has shown in actual performance on the field that when he is healthy and playing full time he is capable of making a solid offensive contribution - not great, by any measure, but very solid, as solid as the offensive contribution of David Eckstein in his last two years with the Cardinals. Given that Izturis is a significantly better fielder than Eskstein, the most reasonable prediction is that Cesar's overall contribution this year will very likely to be an upgrade over Eckstein's overall contribution the last two years.

As Casey Stengel would say, "You could look it up."

That's my story and I'm sticking with it! : )

by CardsWin on Apr 13, 2008 11:06 PM EDT   0 recs

CardsWin

I don't think you are "campaigning" for Izturis rather stating a rational well researched and thought out analysis of what happened to Mr. Izturis to make his numbers not mesh with his actual ability. You are not saying he is going to be an All-Star by anymeans but you are also saying many are wrong in stating that he is the worst hitter in baseball.

I for one like his defense and I already am glad not not have to watch Eck in the field anylonger. Eck had zero chance at making a throw from the deep hole like Iz has done.

by ICbirdfan on Apr 14, 2008 2:04 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

What you call "bias" I call "reality"

you can’t just cherry pick the best season and a half of his career and state that it is his true ability level, that is just horrible horrible projection and analysis. I’m not saying that to be a douche, but just say that’s how the game works. There are a few (cough :: Mariners :: cough) that tend to always sign an over the hill guy in hopes that he repeats his career season, and it almost never happens. Most guys career paths are shaped like a bell curve rather than like a snake. Even when Izturis was at the top of his abilities (.280/.330/.380 or so) he was still a bad a hitter, so I guess I’m not sure what you’re getting at.

Free Barry Bonds

by JI on Apr 15, 2008 12:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

There's a big difference between cherry picking and throwing out skewed data

It is a well established, proven method for maximizing the reliability of performance predictions to filter out data that is skewed by factors that are no longer in effect (such as injury or lack of regular playing time). Predicting a healthy player’s future performance based on his past performance when he was injured or recovering from injury will lead to an underestimate.

Applying exactly the same method of projection that you apply to Izturis, do you expect Chris Duncan to perform this year as poorly as he did in the second half last year when he had a hernia? If you do, if you are predicting Duncan’s performance based on a simplistic projection from his overall performance last year, disregarding the effect of his injury, then I’d love to place a bet with you – no limit – on whether Duncan’s performance will be closer to his first half last year, when he was healthy, or his second half, when he was hurting. If you’d like to take that bet, just let me know.

by CardsWin on Apr 16, 2008 3:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Appreciating Izturis for the player he is

Thank you for your comments, ICBF. It seems that an increasing number of fans are beginning to appreciate the steady contributions Izturis makes that can add up to a valuable, if not flashy, contribution to the team. I imagine the Cardinal pitchers already appreciation him a lot. I hope Cesar will feel the support of the fans. I understand that his reserved demeanor conceals a strong passion for the game and for doing everything he can to put his team in the best position to win. Maybe over time the majority of fans will appreciate that Cesar really is an asset to the team.

by CardsWin on Apr 15, 2008 3:27 AM EDT   0 recs

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