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I'll take "Loss Musings" for $126M, Alex.

The Giants did what bad teams do in order to win: capitalize on every mistake your opposition makes.  I missed the first 4 innings so I can't comment on those in particular but if they were anything like the last 5, I'm considering myself (and my blood pressure) lucky.  Adam Wainwright pitched a good not great game despite what the box score says.  Heading into the 7th he had a quality start that was ruined by a series of well hit and well placed gappers. Every pitch he left up, the Giants hit to the wall.  Even so, he only allowed 8 hits in 7 innings and struck out 6 batters.  I'm more pleased with the things I saw him do correctly last night (groundouts, getting ahead in counts, strikeouts and no walks) than the things that went wrong (hits strung together).

I only caught Chris Duncan's last at bat but what I saw really concerned me.  Take a look at the Gameday results.

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Duncan saw one fastball in the series and, while it didn't have great location, it was around the knees and inside, which he fouled off.  Kevin Correia really busted Duncan with that slider inside on his hands and Chris just couldn't lay off the pitch.  Now that's not to entirely slam Chris as the entire Cardinals lineup was struggling against the righty.  The first two at bats, from their appearance on Gameday, seem like Duncan swung at good pitches with poor results.  That's just unlucky.  He got beat in the 6th, however, and beat badly by that slider.  Expect more breaking stuff to Duncan low and inside during this series.

Ron Villone, I was just beginning to warm up to you as a concept (i.e. find lefty specialists of the scrap heap) and then you have to go and screw me over in practice.  In all seriousness though, Villone was out of his element.  Tony put him up against right handed batters because the Cardinals were down by 4 and he was reluctant to sacrifice any more arms from his oft used bullpen.  That's a perfectly reasonable, forward thinking thing to do.  Villone retired Rowand on a nice pitch but then struggled against Winn and Molina.  (Aside, how in the name of slow moving objects was Bengie Molina's hit off the base of the wall a single???  And we thought our Molina was slow.)  Throwing the ball away into the "bullpen" was ill-advised and led to that 5th run but greater tragedies have occurred in the history of man.

This last bit doesn't directly relate to last night's game but to a conversation between Dan and Al regarding Brendan Ryan.  There was talk of Brendan Ryan heading to extended Spring Training in order to get some work in before returning to the big league club; an eminently reasonable course of action in that it provides Ryan with the chance to get up to game speed, if you will.  What would not be an eminently reasonable course of action, and what Dan and Al blithely argued for, was that Brendan Ryan should have to earn his way back on to the roster.  What a pile of horses--t. 

Because Rico Washington's cup of coffee has been so successful? Because the team is so enamored of Miles being the backup SS?  Because he didn't earn his way on the team last year and this Spring Training hitting .278/.366/.389?  At what point do we stop worrying about whether these young players have a sense of entitlement and start worrying about whether we have the best 25 players on the roster?  Now I should note that Dan and Al do not speak for the club in an official capacity per se, but they tend to vocalize the inner musings of the club from time to time.  Get well soon, Brendan; I for one, would like to see what your speed and defense could do for the team on a semi-regular basis.

It's a long season and you hate to see the Cardinals drop games to teams like the Giants but it's a long season. With the Cardinals facing Barry Zito tonight, we can hope that the bats waken a bit and the scoreboard lights up in our favor.  If not, I suggest typing "$126M" at SBN's Giant's blog, McCovey Chronicles.  Not to stir trouble but simply as a cathartic, soothing release.  If that doesn't work, drink the hard stuff and curse at your TV because we better hammer the bloody ball tonight.

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"We left our bats in Texas. American Airlines must have lost em."

So the text read from my good friend and fellow Cardinal diehard. I missed the game but there isn't a whole lot in the box score to make me upset about this fact. Losing the opener to San Fran is rough, especially with Pineiro getting his first start back on Sunday in the series finale. If we hope to be a legitimate threat to the Brewers, Cubs, and (gulp) Dusy Baker-manager Red Stockings, we need to be taking three out of four from the Giants.

Hombres verdaderos slide hard.

by bgh on Apr 11, 2008 8:15 AM EDT   0 recs

Hopefully

American Airlines will have found the lost bats and returned them by tonight's game. :)

by cardsgirl95 on Apr 11, 2008 9:57 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I like your comments about Brendan Ryan ...

we need his bat immensely ... the sooner we get it the better ... Kennedy is heading towards the Mendoza line and doesn't seem to have any zip in his bat ... perhaps Roberts from the Orioles is who we should be going after with this much touted May/June trade talk we keep hearing about ... but for now, Ryan would really help ...

So far, Duncan has been a drain on the team ... His .188 slugging percentage sucks ... IMHO, if he can't hit 4th or 5th with power, I don't see how he contributes to the club ... and so far this year, he's not producing enough of anything to comfortably slip into either of those slots ... he's not doing anything for us in the two hole ... I like Duncan, and we could really use his potential 25HR and 70 RBI, but if he doesn't start showing some tendancy to begin achieving those numbers, then I hope he is part of any trade talks that happen in May ...

As far as last night ... we all need to remember how tough it is to win on the road ... They looked like they had jet lag or something ... Let's hope for better things tonight with Barton and hopefully Ludwick in the lineup ...

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 11, 2008 9:25 AM EDT   0 recs

Trading Duncan

might be a tough job for Mo even if he wanted to trade Duncan. Chris looks just awful at the plate going back to last year, injury or not. Chris is quickly becoming one of those players that has a surge of HRs when they get into the big leagues, but once pitchers figure them out, they are done. Anybody remember Kevin Mass of the Yankees from the early 90's...or how about Joe Charboneau from the Indians back in the early 80's. If Chris doesn't get to producing he will be lucky to even be in the majors this time next year. But I guess what Chris has that Kevin and Joe didn't is his father as a coach and a manager that is loyal to the father.

by KYCards on Apr 11, 2008 9:50 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That's a scary thought

I hadn't thought of that, but now that you mention it, I'm worried. I tend to see dips in production in terms of slumps. But if this is a case where Chris just can't recover his past production, that's bad news.

As an aside, though, it seems like we (and I include myself in this criticism) always think about trading players when they are at their lowest production. If Duncan doesn't increase his production by June, we aren't going to get much for him in a trade. If his numbers jump back up, we're going to be clamoring for him to be our everyday left outfielder.

by blehmann on Apr 11, 2008 9:57 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I wish they would get Mitchell Paige back

or some other hitting coach to work with Chris and hopefully get him back on track. We have a few other guys that could maybe use a different hitting coach...(cough)..Kennedy.

Hal McRae just doesn't seem to be the guy I'm afraid.

by KYCards on Apr 11, 2008 10:07 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

There has been

constant trade proposals outlined on VEB since last October of trade packages built around Chris Duncan and a good many to the Giants because of his so called good fit with them. If the Cards had any idea to showcase Duncan to the Giants in this series, so far it hasn't worked defensively or offensively. He looked terrible on several plays early in the game on throws back to the infield. The Giant announcers chewed him up pretty good on his base running also. To sum it up. Duncan's trade value is sinking fast.

by ridgesee on Apr 11, 2008 10:10 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The defense may not be a concern

as far as the Giants go. If they got him from us, they'd make him a 1B. The baserunning and poor ABs, on the other hand...

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by Mr Redbird on Apr 11, 2008 10:34 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Joe Charboneau was the real deal

FWIW, Joe Charboneau was the Indians Albert Pujols. A wild kid who bit the bottle caps off of beer bottles, and so on. One day he tried to do 1000 sit-ups on a bet, and slipped a disk in his back. Had surgery and was never the same. A real shame because he was a lot like Albert, had both power and a high average.

by O'Fallon Park on Apr 11, 2008 1:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Duncan's trade value

would seem to be very low at this point. I can't imagine anyone acquiring him as more than the lefty half of a first base platoon, and that's not the kind of player that teams shell out legit prospects for. And I think most who post these dream trade deals must know that as well, or why would Duncan always be the chip that will supposedly land us the blue chip prospect?

I'll see your Mass and Charboneau and throw out a former Card he's beginning to remind me of: Eduardo Perez.

by bgodar on Apr 11, 2008 2:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

16 ABs

16 ABs a season does not make. Plus, his OBP is .362, which would have placed him in the top 10 for No. 2 slot OBP last season and would tie him for #7 in all of MLB this very, very young season for No. 2 OBP. What's more, it's 13 points higher than the team's OBP from the No. 2 slot so far this very, very young season. In point of fact, Duncan has outperformed Ankiel in OBP, tied Ankiel in AVG, while trailing him in Slugging by a long, long ways. There's a lot left to play and things will even out.

Hombres verdaderos slide hard.

by bgh on Apr 11, 2008 9:56 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You sound like Yoda...

"16 ABs a season does not make."
LOL

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by Calhoun on Apr 11, 2008 3:44 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

$126 Million

Does everyone reading this blog know the meaning of $126 million? I don't. Could it be our payroll, or the Giants payroll, or Zito's contract? I wouldn't know unless I did some research, and I read this blog because I'm too lazy to do my own research. :)

by blehmann on Apr 11, 2008 9:46 AM EDT   0 recs

I like to think...

... most Cards fans are above that type of trolling. And at least Zito is actually pitching - we have a pretty high-priced (in terms of what it took to get him) former A who hasn't done a whole lot for us since we traded Danny Haren, Kiko Calero, and Daric Barton for him.

by birdjam on Apr 11, 2008 9:58 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't think

that Az is really recommending trolling.

by cardsgirl95 on Apr 11, 2008 10:01 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I think I can speak for most Giant's fans when I saw we'd much rather have Zito not pitch.

Make me proud again Hen

by AndYourBirdCanSing on Apr 11, 2008 10:04 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

And please, by all means, mock his contract, it's a terrible one and we do it too.

by paboperfecto on Apr 11, 2008 11:09 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I was wondering why

Az was talking to me in the title, then I remembered that damn mustachioed Canadian.

Well who the hell can see forever?

by Alxfritz on Apr 11, 2008 3:52 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

So you miss

Izturis "trying" to streatch a double into a triple and getting thrown out at third? Really. It was the second out. So I wouldn't have a beef about it. Expect that he slowed down before getting to second.

Skippy followed it up with a hit up the middle that would have scored him too.

But yeah. It happens. You hate to lose to a bad team with your ace on the mound. But the Cardinals looked a little flat. Wainwright strung a few hits together. A lot of thier balls found the gap in outfield. It's why we play 162 of these right?

by Evilfrog on Apr 11, 2008 9:56 AM EDT   0 recs

That was my feeling as well.

I don't like to waste a Wainwright start. But, it happens. So we try to get them tonight.

by cardsgirl95 on Apr 11, 2008 10:05 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i dont think he slowed down enough...

to affect the outcome of the play...he was out by 30 feet...did Oquendo wave him on?

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by nomar34 on Apr 11, 2008 10:08 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

that question was posed

and the replay shows that izturis definitely looked up at oquendo as he rounded 2nd... but i didn't see a shot of oquendo. i was half awake, so anyone see if cesar was given the 'stop' sign?

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by _pistol_ on Apr 11, 2008 10:12 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oquendo was waving him on,

but I still blame Izturis for slowing down. There's a third base coach for a reason - use him. I doubt he would have made it regardless, but at least it would have been a close play.

by outraged on Apr 11, 2008 10:17 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

This is on Oquendo

Slowed down or full speed, he would have been out. Oquendo made the mistake. That said, game over... let's move on.

by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Apr 11, 2008 10:47 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oquendo can get a little daring

Sometimes he sends people when they have no chance of advancing the extra base safely.

Hombres verdaderos slide hard.

by bgh on Apr 11, 2008 10:50 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

He did that early last year

Seems like he is more aggresive (optimistic?) in his coaching early in the year. Is he testing the players or pushing luck? Guess he'll be a very aggresive manager someday.

by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Apr 11, 2008 10:55 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I dont really care..

If it was his fault or not. It was frustrating and a sign of how bad we played yesturday. If I could sum up the game in one play. That would be it. Im not trying to rag on him.

by Evilfrog on Apr 11, 2008 12:22 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

San Francisco

worse team in NL, you throw your ace, they throw Joe Blow with a .600 ERA. He shuts you down. That rattle your ace. Go figure. Is that just baseball or is 2007 just fixin to happen?

by ridgesee on Apr 11, 2008 10:21 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

my stupid mistake

move decimal point one space right please ,,,also change "That" to "They" don't see to good for the first four hours of the day.

by ridgesee on Apr 11, 2008 10:47 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Just baseball

Strange things like this happen every day across the League. We have a stronger lineup than in 2007. Glaus is an upgrade over Rolen and Ankiel over Edmonds in terms of offensive production. Our outfield defense will also be improved (not that it would take much) from 2007. In addition, it looks like our rotation will be moving in the opposite direction of 2008: rather than attrition via injury, we may have a cavalry on the hill which will strengthen the rotation and bullpen by supplanting Das WunderBrad and Wellemeyer with Pineiro and Clement or Mulder, which will bolster the 'pen and the rotation at the same time. Plus, Rasmus is waiting in the wings and Izturis' horrendous offensive performance may force TLR's hand with Ryan.

Hombres verdaderos slide hard.

by bgh on Apr 11, 2008 10:38 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

+1 ...

Great post ...

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 11, 2008 10:41 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Correction

I meant "opposite direction of 2007"

Hombres verdaderos slide hard.

by bgh on Apr 11, 2008 10:47 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Perpetuating the misperception that Izturis isn't contributing real value

After 10 games of the regular season, Izturis has an OBP of .394, better than every other player on the team with more than 12 AB's, besides Pujols.

by CardsWin on Apr 11, 2008 11:00 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Right now

It is early at this point but Adam Kennedy looks to be really struggling. He has absolutely zero pop, can't seem to hit high pitches due to his loopy swing, and contines to roll over weakly or pop out weakly.

I would like to see Izturis at SS and Ryan at 2B.

by ICbirdfan on Apr 11, 2008 11:04 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yes

Honestly, Adam looks like toast. And I'm trying not to just go off 10 games this year. His bat has zero explosiveness. He just looks like he got old really quickly. Izturis has more excitement in his game than Kennedy and that's saying something.

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by beanocook on Apr 11, 2008 11:06 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Kennedy

His whole approach is bad. He was just hacking last night, zero effort to work the count. You can tell his is pressing because he is affraid to fall behind in the count.

It is sad when Izturis is a much better option than Kennedy. I know it's early and Izturis could regress to what he is and Kennedy could improve but from what I have seen from Adam, he will be lucky to get and extra base hit.

by ICbirdfan on Apr 11, 2008 11:10 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hoff

Could Hoffpauer be the 'impact bat' that Mo refers to? He has had an insane OBP of late, and would be great in the leadoff position, allowing skip/barton to move to the two hole, and ankiel to follow pujols against both left and right-handed pitching.

I realize, that a low SLG, high OPB second basemen isn't normally considered impact. However, when talking about finding an impact bat - who do you replace - not Molina (defense - right or wrong he isn't going anywhere), Pujols, Glaus, Ank, plenty of corner outfielders already - it almost has to be middle infield.

by cdb on Apr 11, 2008 11:10 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hoffpauir

is hitting the ball very well at Memphis right now. La Russa never gave Hoffpauir a chance in ST. I think he was sore that Hoffpauir didn't report early and waited till last day.

by ridgesee on Apr 11, 2008 11:25 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Ryan at 2B as a platoon would be an upgrade

I'd be all for Ryan in a platoon with Kennedy. Ryan hits much better than Kennedy vs. LHP. Kennedy hits better vs. RHP, if I recall correctly. Ryan would add speed and he'd be just as good defensively.

by CardsWin on Apr 11, 2008 11:17 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You're right about Izturis ...

Of course, he still flirts with Mendoza ... currently at .231 .. but of course a couple of bad games and he's there again ... but he is drawing walks too to get his OBP up ... that's good ... and his defense has been pretty solid ... I for one am off his back ... he's doing really all you can expect of someone of his abilities ... as long as he stays low in the order, preferably #9, I'm fine with him ... sure wish we could Edgar back, though ... however, as a guy who was all over Izturis during ST, I admit his defense and potential ability to hit .250 seems like a good call by Tony and rest of Mgmt ... I try not to bad-mouth him anymore ...

Adam, as I stated above in an earlier post, is soft ... I would love to see Ryan take his place ... I would also like to have Roberts (Orioles) replace him ...

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 11, 2008 12:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Cesar Izturis is an upgrade at SS compared with 2006 and 2007

Based not just on this season's first 10 games but on how Izturis performed in almost 900 AB's the last time he was healthy and playing full time, we can reasonably expect him to have an OBP and SLG close to what Eckstein had while he was with the Cards, but with much better defense. Eckstein's OPS+ in his last two years with StL was 81 (World Series MVP) and 93. Izturis' OPS+ in his last full season when he was healthy (2004) was 88. At this very early point in the season Eckstein's OPS+ in Toronto is 48. Izturis' OPS+ so far is 92.

Cesar is an upgrade in SS value added, over last year and the year before, at about two thirds the cost.

by CardsWin on Apr 11, 2008 12:30 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Great post ...

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 11, 2008 12:51 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

iz2 vs. eck

that lil nugget is scary

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by elirock83 on Apr 11, 2008 2:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I am really excited about Izturis

His defense has been great! Last year I was so sick of seeing Albert pick 10 balls out of the dirt every game. This year Izturis can throw rockets from the hole! Not to mention he can reach balls that Eckstein could only dream about...

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by Calhoun on Apr 11, 2008 3:53 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Conversely

He can't seem to cover 2nd base properly and seems confused on the basepaths. Although, in fairness, that could be because he has spent so little time on them in his career.

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by Hardcore Legend on Apr 11, 2008 4:00 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It's good that they are doing the right thing with Ryan

and getting some work in before he returns. I'm a strong believer in having a guy prove he's healthy and back in form before returning to the big league club. I understand that sometimes the circumstances won't allow for it though. Anyone else somewhat concerned that Piniero only made one start? He only pitched 3 innings in spring training. The Mulder situation concerns me a lot more though. Mo is already talking about cutting his rehab short.

by outraged on Apr 11, 2008 10:14 AM EDT   0 recs

Modus Operandi

Mulder had no business taking a Big League mound last year. The Cards should be embarassed by what they did to him. The handling of Rolen also comes to mind. And, yes, Pineiro scares me. Mo explicitly states that the goal is have Pineiro able to throw 100 pitches. He throws 76 in a rehab start and gets shipped up to the Big Club for Sunday. Why the rush?

Hombres verdaderos slide hard.

by bgh on Apr 11, 2008 10:24 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

radio

listened to the second half of the game on the radio last night. in the 7th, i flipped over to the giants broadcast on xm radio... Dave Fleming (sp?) and Jon Miller. Holy crap. Those guys are excellent. If you have access to satellite radio, or mlb radio, I highly recommend giving them listen.

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by _pistol_ on Apr 11, 2008 10:21 AM EDT   0 recs

Completely off topic ... but speaking of radio ...

I've been away from St. Louis for awhile ... I'm starting to listen to 1380 on-line a lot via there live feed ... what do you all think is the best sports radio (predominantly for Cards coverage) in STL right now? I like 1380, but wondered if something better is available ... I tried KTRS for awhile, but thought it was pretty lacking ... thanks in advance for any thoughts ...

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by Cardinals4Ever on Apr 11, 2008 10:48 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Great question

Ever since the Cards split with KMOX, it's been difficult to find a station who gives nearly the amount of committed, quality coverage. KFNS is a joke (the morning show has more in common with "The View" than an actual informative sports show), KTRS is coming around (were they the station that carries a show with Mike Claiborne? I moved from the area a year ago, so I don't know), but ouside of that the options are thin.

Don't know about you, but I blame ESPN for being the harbinger of the decline of informative sports coverage.

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 11, 2008 12:23 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I was driving

through a rain storm last night and listening to the game on XM. Flemming and Miller are very good. But around the fourth and fifth innings, Jon Miller had a couple of stories he wanted to tell and he was not about to let the game get in his way. I begged him to get back to the game, but he wouldn't listen. Other than that, it was an excellent broadcast.

by cardsgirl95 on Apr 11, 2008 10:54 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Jon Miller always has a couple of stories

to tell, I like him though. Who else could keep Joe Morgan employed.

by ridgesee on Apr 11, 2008 11:02 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

(let me finish my thought)

that Jon Miller deserves a special award for enduring Joe Morgan every Sunday night all season long.

(I have no idea why the title posted by itself.)

by cardsgirl95 on Apr 11, 2008 11:09 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

aaaaaaaaamen

i lose iq points when ever joe speaks

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by elirock83 on Apr 11, 2008 2:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Miller is terrible

I've never heard a baseball announcer who seemed to know so very little about the game of baseball. He is a joke. A line I've never forgotten is "I'd always thought it would be a good idea to change the positions of the baserunners" when a slow guy was on 2nd in front of a speedster on 1st. I prefer Morgan to him, sometimes. Blasphemy, I know, but Miller makes me sick, and Joe at least knows about how to play the game. Not the strategy, but stuff like getting the ball out of your glove before you throw it so the receiving fielder can pick it up, stuff like that.

by Midwestside on Apr 12, 2008 8:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

amen

The Giants TV/Radio guys are very, very good.

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by beanocook on Apr 11, 2008 11:05 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'm sorry, but did you say Jon Miller was excellent?

Man. That's just scary.

"and there's a high fastball." well, it was low and bounced in the dirt. "this reminds me of a Yankees story."

by sdrone on Apr 11, 2008 12:14 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Miller is smooth, I'll give him that,

but his smoothness is for some reason intensely irritating to me. I guess if he would call Morgan on some of his worst bullshit I'd cut him some slack, but he doesn't.

Another thing that drives me nuts is how he uses the word "slugger" all the time, and says it the way my aunt Ethel who knows nothing about baseball would say it. I just find him creepy somehow.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 11, 2008 12:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yeah, yeah

i'm sure there are folks who don't like him, but i'll stand by my earlier statement. i like listening to the dude on the radio.

I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.

by _pistol_ on Apr 11, 2008 12:43 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You are taking your Joe Morgan rage out on Miller

If Miller was with anyone in the non-Tim McCarver category he'd seem infinitely better.

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Apr 11, 2008 1:41 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

yes sir

Miller would be better with out morgan. For as many good personalities out there now, why do all the bad ones get the lion share of the tv time?

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by elirock83 on Apr 11, 2008 2:59 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

NO everything reminds him of...

Barry Bonds, Barry Bonds, Barry Bonds....................HE NEVER STOPS TALKING ABOUT HIM!

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by Calhoun on Apr 11, 2008 4:01 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Jon Miller

Is the most hyped up announcer in the country....and he is CRAP CRAP CRAP!!!!!!! Also Sunday Night Baseball with Miller and Morgan is the most pathetic broadcast on television.......... The only time I enjoyed it was when their mikes went out and they had the hispanic announcers doing the game THAT WAS AWESOME! there is nothing better then hispanic announcers! they ROCK!

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by Calhoun on Apr 11, 2008 3:58 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

i'm sort of neutral on miller

but i remember watching that game and it was indeed awesome.

by mattybobo on Apr 11, 2008 4:17 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I wish more analysts

understood the virtue of shutting their mouths every once in a while. Who is the most minimalistic color guy out there? Give him an Emmy.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Apr 11, 2008 4:34 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I still remember

the call on Rolen's HR and thinking it was the greatest HR call I heard in years. I think I even screamed at my television when Miller and Morgan returned.

Maldonado and Baerga > complete silence > Miller and Morgan

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by Tudor's Electric Fan on Apr 11, 2008 4:38 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Years ago

after