Knight, Parsells, LaRussa
In case anyone didn't notice... and would care to see it:
ESPN is advertising a three-way interview, featuring Bobby Knight, Bill Parsells, and our boy Tony. It's well known that these three guys are buddies (and it figures they would be).
To be seen 10:30 am today (Sunday) and repeated at 11 pm (EST)
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Yeah
I've noticed that with a lot of Knight's "march madness analysis" lately, he's been wearing a cardinals shirt.
On with the (good) youth movement!
by aet15 on Mar 30, 2008 3:01 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Too bad....
I'll have to miss it for that re-run of Gilligan where he pouts after the Skipper hurts his feelings.
"Son, we'd like to keep you around for the season but we're gonna try to win the pennant." Old Casey
by cardschinmusic on Mar 30, 2008 6:29 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
The 3 Amigos
As for these interviews, I'm torn between spending time with them to glean keen genuis insight or running in the other direction to avoid predictable answers and a wasted chunk of my life
I once was fascinated that these 3 odd-fellows would be friends but now it makes perfect sense that they find each other and cultivate their mutual styles/interests
- a very strong suspicion, if not disdain, for the media
- an Italian-like loyalty (for life) to their tight inner circle
- an "attack mentality" to protect those in inner circle
- a tall wall around their personal life and feelings
- a strong - "your either for me or against me" - mentality
- workaholics at the expense of traditional family values
Now, to be fair, there are likely a ton of positive coaching traits they share that have placed them at the pinnacle of their profession but that's not my point here. My faraway observation is the common personal traits they share. And here's my guess as to the number one trait
THEY ABSOLUTELY DO NOT CARE WHAT YOU THINK OF THEM
This may come across as stubborn or arrogant or prickly but it's pretty clear to me that they have ideas about what they want to do and they could give two hoots what anyone cares or what people think of them.
That's a pretty unique trait for a human. We all, to one degree or another, want to be "liked". So do they but the degree is so small it's almost imperceptible. They've earned the right to be that way. Their way has worked often enough to get them into some sort of HOF. They are wealthy for life. They don't have to care anymore but they didn't care much to begin with. And btw, they all love veterans who "get" their way.
It's interesting. But it's not loveable. It's not even really likeable - unless you're part of their inner circle. That's why fans generally fall into the love them or hate them category. That's why we follow them - they are interesting in an odd way. But it's also why no one will rarely care too much one way or another when they drive off into the sunset. And evidently, they won't care much about us either.
They are alot like the odd CEO of your company that always seem to drive up your stock value. You like him being in charge as long as you have a job and are making money on the stock but you don't really like him. When he leaves, there will be no tears or party. Neither side will really care that much.
by Hinkster on Mar 30, 2008 11:17 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs
Knight and TLR on ESPN
I just watched a clip of the interview with Knight and TLR on the ESPN mlb page.
http://sports-ak.espn.go.com/mlb/index
I thought the interview was great. I was never a fan of Knight's because of his outburts (chairs, choking, and curmudgeoning), but by all accounts the guy can coach. I remember there was a rumor of Knight coaching for Mizzou after Quinn Snyder's firing, and I felt really conflicted about that possibility. For me, other than the two blips (DUI and Rolen), both recent, I don't have issues with TLR outside of strict baseball stuff.
I have read many posts on this site about TLR including the responses to a fanpost I posted about TLR. I think I understand why folks dislike TLR and LaDunc. I don't need to rehash all the points, and I do believe many of those points are valid because of the state of affairs of the Cards currently. I have heard it said (many times on the radio) that STL has never accepted TLR in STL. Even after the Card's World Series, it seems like TLR is still treated as an outsider. I am not surprised that many lobby for the Secret Weapon to be the coach. Oquendo is a STL person, while TLR is a sushi eating Californian. I don't blame folks for wanting a hometown hero. Without rehashing all the arguments again, I just think we have a great HOF coach. I hope we can try to enjoy and support LaDunc for the next two years.
It seems like there has been a lot of negativity this Spring towards LaDunc, while many others have pointed out that there are so many exciting things about the Cards this season. This season has not yet started, and there are so many naysayers even within VEB. Let's give it some time before we second guess LaDunc's and Mo's decisions.
born Dodger blue, now dyed Cardinals red
by totalloser on Mar 30, 2008 4:25 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
...maybe its beyond that?
I understand your thoughts on a more personal basis re: the community, but there are other more global reasons for change and maybe more Cards fans are leaning in that direction. My feelings about La Russa and Duncan have nothing to do with anything other than the fact than I think its time for a new era in St Louis baseball (ASAP) and I don't think TLR is the guy to lead the transition. I have no negative personal feelings about his tenure in St Louis and have been generally supportive.
Baseball is visibly and obviously changing and developing the play and skill level of prospects is not TLRs strong suite. Spending money and time on PD seems counter-intuitive with Tony and Dave at the helm, Tony will be deciding who plays, when and where and his track record does'nt support developing from within. His successor needs to be someone with an eye on the future that can communicate like an adult.
VEB has me looking more forward, beyond free agents and trying to catch lightning in a bottle one more time with average or diminishing vets that are blocking younger players the organization is in the process of developing now or aquiring thru the draft and added scouting programs.
They've had onehellova run tho, have'nt they! All of these guys....its time to move on and spend that money on yacht's and country clubs. I dont care how interesting they are, I think their time has come and gone or is at the very least, close to it. Hinkster makes several good points re: the psychology of these three guys. One thing is for sure, they all came along at the right time for the approach they used.
"Son, we'd like to keep you around for the season but we're gonna try to win the pennant." Old Casey
by cardschinmusic on Mar 31, 2008 7:27 AM EDT up reply actions 0 recs
28 minutes long clip
from the interview of just Knight and La Russa can be found here.
you can't sneak the sun past the rooster
by enoscountry on Mar 30, 2008 5:27 PM EDT reply actions 0 recs
I saw Knight and Parcells
on ESPN's Outside the Lines, last Thursday, I think. It was pretty interesting.
Prospects are good. Especially when they aren't rushed.
by CraveCase on Mar 31, 2008 3:31 AM EDT reply actions 0 recs

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