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I Will Ruin this Blog With my Anger!

Morning, everybody.

Here's Anthony Reyes' line from yest, erday.

6IP,0R,0ER,3H,1BB,2K

Here are a couple of comments following that performance. Per Matthew Leach:

"For me, it was a real difficult game to evaluate the performances of the pitchers," Duncan said. "Odalis Perez was doing pretty good for five innings, if I remember right, and he's not exactly a top of the rotation guy. I actually thought Anthony threw better in the last game he pitched, in comparison to this one."

And this, from Joe Strauss

"I'm still looking for Anthony to do certain things that when you face first division teams you can compete against them and have a legitimate chance to be successful," Duncan said.

Earlier in the same article, however;

"I always say the bottome line is what you look at," Duncan said. "It's not how you get it but if you get it. In Anthony's case, the line is there today."

All right. Am I the only one who sees a bit of a disconnect here? In fairness to Duncan, he did say that only results matter. However, he also basically wrote off yesterday, mostly due to the wind. (BTW, game time the wind was listed at 12mph, blowing in. The average wind speed this spring has been around 11mph. I have a hard time believing the wind was a bigger factor yesterday than the rest of the time.)

Look, I will not claim that Anthony Reyes is a great pitcher. I won't even go out on a limb and say he's a particularly good pitcher at the moment. I like the kid; I think he still has a lot of potential. However, he was very bad last year. He was fairly bad, with a couple of notable exceptions, in 2006. I could go into all kinds of reason why I think he's had so many problems, but I won't. I'll just let the record stand.

When I see these sorts of comments made about a pitcher who just threw the game that Anthony did yesterday, though, I can't just let it go. After the gushing, the praise, the heaping of laurels, on the shoulders of Brad Thompson, for lesser performances, I just cannot let it go. After Todd Wellemeyer, with his >6BB/9IP, his inability to controlhis pitch counts, and, thus, his inability to go later in a ballgame than the fifth inning, is guaranteed a spot and commended for his efficiency, I just cannot let it go. And most of all, after a talented, struggling young man has worked his tail off, dedicated himself to coming into camp in the best shape possible, and conducted himself in as professional a manner as you could ever hope for, I just cannot let those comments go.

Anthony Reyes has pitched as well as any other pitcher in competition for a starting spot this spring. He has the second most strikeouts of any pitcher, the second best ERA, (despite throwing one game while still recuperating from the flu) and has walked almost no one. However, there is some mystical thing, some magical thing, some fantastic, bamstaferous, flamtabulous thing that Anthony Reyes simply does not do. Unfortunately, whatever that single thing is, it's the only thing that can possibly make him into a major league pitcher.

I cant' tell you he's a great pitcher. I can't even tell you he's all that good of a pitcher. I can, however, tell you that he's been a better pitcher this spring than the pitchers who have beaten him out for his spot in the rotation. And it flat out drives me nuts. Brad Thompson, Braden Looper, and Todd Wellemeyer will all be in the rotation come opening day. However, Anthony Reyes, despite having pitched better, will not be. Hopefully, though, he'll have the encouraging words offered up by his pitching coach as a source of comfort as he whiles away the hours in Mem-

Oh yeah, that's right. Never mind.

On a positive note, (and I do apologise for the negativity; I try to control it, but this just really rubs me the wrong way) I am enjoying watching a baseball game at five o' clock in the morning. A lot. I don't know if I can somehow get Japanese baseball games here in the states on television, but if I can, my joy will flow like roaring river from mountain tops, bringing gentle cherry blossom breeze to the valley.

On a related note, I know that Rich Harden can't stay healthy. But good god, is he ever nasty. (Jon Lester ain't too bad either, but Harden is just wicked.)

There's another thing that's upsetting me this morning. ESPN is currently running a series of interstitials, entitled, "Remembering the House that Ruth Built". It is, obviously, a retrospective on Yankee Stadium.

Currently, there is on running about Max Schmeling and Joe Louis. It talks about Schmeling defeating the heavily favoured Louis, etc., and then talks about the rematch in Yankee Stadium. The tagling, that Louis defeated Schmeling on the 22nd of June, 1938, in front of a raucous, celebratory crowd, contains a serious problem.

It refers to Schmeling as "Hitler's Champ."

You got that?

"Hitler's Champ".

Here, read this.

Max Schmeling is one of the most decent human beings you will ever read about. The man is a literal hero. It was a crime the way he was demonized in the 30s in America. The times being what they were, though, our perspective now has to be taken with a grain of salt. Was it right? No. Was it understandable? A little, yes. Schmeling was a German, fighting a black man in a time when Adolph Hitler was spouting propaganda about the superiority of his Aryan Master Race. You can understand a bit how the boxer could have been made a scapegoat. Again, it wasn't fair, but we can forgive. There was a tremendous amount of fear and anger. Rational minds struggles against the tide when the times are dark.

This is not the 1930s. This is 2008. We know the full story of the man. We know that he refused to join the Nazi Party and was punished for it. We know that he hid a pair of Jewish children, sparing their lives from the scythes of the German genocide. And yet, somehow, in this supposedly enlightened age, ESPN calls Max Schmeling, a man too principled and courageous to give in to the overwhelming press of evil, "Hitler's Champ". I don't care how much you want to elevate Joe Louis. Joe Louis needs no elevation. He was one of the greatest fighters who ever lived. He maintained tremendous dignity in an era when the black man was not supposed to have any. He is a beautiful, tragic figure, to be always remembered as the dark side of our own American Dream. Joe Louis needs no elevation. To demonize his opponent, even in a quick, thrown off television spot, seventy years after the fact, when we should all know better, when we do all know better, is the lowest, most despicable form of pandering. I am sickened. To hell with you, ESPN. And I have nothing else to say about it.

Manny just hit a solo home run. Rich Harden is still ridiculous.

Again, sorry for all the negativity this morning, everybody. Hey, there's a baseball game on today! The Wagonmaker will take the mound today, facing off against Jeremy Guthrie, Baltimore's own Opening Day starter. It should be a good one, and wonder of wonders, it's on television! Fox Sports Midwest, to be more specific. I can't express how exciting it is to have real baseball on TV again.

By the way, after watching Kyle McClellan pitch in Sunday's game, I'm softening my stance on Chris Perez making the major league team. Don't get me wrong; I still think Perez is ready to work at the big league level, but if it's between Wild Thing and K-Mac, (that's right, I'm coining my own nicknames for everyone and everything this morning) I don't think we can lose. Unless Cliff Politte somehow beats out both of them for a spot, I'll be happy. Both are very exciting, very promising young players, just the sort of player I'm looking forward to watching this year. Please, somebody, tell Cliff Politte can't beat them both out. For the love of god, tell me!!!

One last note, and it's a nice one. My Spring Surprise Position Player, Travis Mitchell, has been coming on strong the last few days. I believe he's slated to start the year out at Quad Cities; I'm planning to try and make at least one trip up there this year to get a look at a couple of the players on that squad, Mitchell high among them. Mitchell's a local kid, from Chesterfield, and I'm really excited to follow him this year.

HOORAY BASEBALL!!!

Alright. I don't feel like quite such a downer now.

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YO! FRONT OFFICE!!!

I hope the front office reads this one.

I like some of the moves Mo has made. BUT, I can have ZERO respect for any manager that allows his underlings to run down the business/employees to the media.

Mo and Co. need to put a gag on both TLR and Duncan. Strauss reported 10 scouts in the stands yesterday and Duncan is still running him down.

Any other business head would yank the choker so tight on these middle managers their head would spin. For most organizations, it would be a fire-able offense.

MO! Shut these guys up!!!! Didn't you learn anything from the TLR/Rolen war!!!

by RedbirdRay on Mar 26, 2008 9:30 AM EDT   0 recs

I wonder

what the scouts thought of Reyes.
I'm also very disappointed that hes not in the rotation over the 3 bullpen-ites.

by rmtx97 on Mar 26, 2008 9:55 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Apparently, LaRussa will meet with Mo today

to finalize the rotation. I hope Mozeliak puts his foot down and refuses to send Reyes down. He won't, of course, because LaRussa is king and apparently got special concessions in his contract for him to come back.

But this whole thing reeks. Apparently, Wellemeyer and Thompson are such polished pitchers while Reyes lacks the Quan. Perhaps LaRussa is waiting until he gets old enough to be considered a veteran reclamation project and then he will finally let him start.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 26, 2008 9:54 AM EDT   0 recs

You know what

that is probably true. Reyes just needs to suffer a major injury or have a run of bad years on some other team before he is eligible to pitch in our rotation. We will throw anyone else's mediocre trash out there on the mound, but we sure as hell won't let anyone of our homegrown pitchers aspire to be average.

Also, it seems to me that we have a pitching coach who wants guys to pitch to contact to get groundballs, and we have a weak hitting MI that specializes in hitting groundballs. I just don't have a whole lot of optimism for this club. I am looking forward to see certain players compete, but the team as a whole is not inspiring a whole lot of confidence. Part of that is the manager and coaching staff talking out of both sides of their mouth.

"I believe he’s been reincarnated, that he played before, in the twenties and thirties, and he’s back to prove something." - Former teammate Mark McGwire about Albert Pujols

by cardzfan24 on Mar 26, 2008 10:08 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Best case scenario...

Here is what I see as the best case for Reyes as a Card from this point on:

Reyes goes to Memphis, dominates, gets grounders and Ks and is very effective, their "ace" while he is there. Sometime in May we realize that Wellemeyer and Looper don't belong as starters, one is traded and one is demoted to the Pen, Mulder replaces one, Reyes the other. Doubt it will happen but it would be the best case for Reyes I think.

by StLHugo on Mar 26, 2008 10:09 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The problem is ...

that you have to include Pineiro in that group, also. So, Mulder and Pineiro will replace Wellemeyer and Thompson, when ready. Reyes will still be on the outside, looking in.

by etp_stl on Mar 26, 2008 11:20 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

The problem is ...

that noone will admit that Looper is a bigger problem than Wellenmeyer or Thompson ... he's the one Reyes should be replacing ... if not Anthony, than Brad ... Looper needs to go the bull pen ...

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Mar 26, 2008 11:23 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I don't know that I ...

agree with you on this one. Can you provide any numbers to back up this statement? After my research yesterday on the trio of Wellemeyer, Thompson, and Reyes; I will need some convincing that a guy that produced the results Looper did is significantly worse than any of these three.

by etp_stl on Mar 26, 2008 11:28 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

My reasoning is this ...

Looper seemed inconsistent last year ... yeah, he was starting for the first time in his career; and, considering the change in role, he had a very decent year, and should be commended for it ... but he would have a good outing, then a bad one ... kind of the same thing Reyes is being bash for ... his ERA this Spring is 7.98 and he's 0-2 ... he's a career reliever ... I think it is better use of talent to send him back to that role and have a 'true' starter like Reyes have that slot ... listen, I'm not a baseball wiz or anything ... but I have a strong inclination that Looper is going to be bad early this year, and I'd rather avoid it ... I get a little irritated sometimes when Reyes is always painted to be in 'competition' with Wellenmeyer and Thompson, and Looper, who is pitching like s**t, get's a free pass ... all I can say is LaRuscan likes him ... By the way, I believe the most effective starting rotation come Monday would be ... Wainwright, Lohse, Reyes, Wellenmeyer, Thompson ... with Pineiro quickly replacing Wellenmeyer and then Mulder eventually replacing Thompson ... and Carpenter finally replacing who ever is pitching the worst at the time ... I believe Clement is toast ...

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Mar 26, 2008 12:10 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Good points.

I would also add the guy had a significant jump in innings between 2006 and 2007. There is correlational evidence to back a significant drop in performance for Looper this year, based on that fact.

You are also correct that he was inconsistent last year, but it seems to me that his good performances at least balanced his bad performances. Reyes only had 5 quality starts out of 20. Looper had a .500 record (please don't go off about how bad W/L is as an evaluator). I am interested in what his IPavg was last year, but I believe it was better than what you got from the trio. Again, I haven't done the homework.

Also, he is going to get a free pass from Duncan because
1) He is a veteran pitcher
2) He is a low-ball pitcher
3) His transition was Duncan's brain-child

by etp_stl on Mar 26, 2008 12:48 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

if i remember correctly

looper actually had pretty defined splits between day and night games. i want to say in day games he was at least a run better. maybe we should just spot start looper during the day. pitching platoons, thats what we need.

"Sorry about him, he's dealing with being an inker. " - Chasing Amy

by FutureMan on Mar 26, 2008 9:15 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wow!

Don't let Tony read that. That will become the next gift from the baseball genius that is TLR. The 7 pitcher, 5 man rotation. The 4 & 5 spots will be platooned with whichever reliever Duncan is working on converting.

by etp_stl on Mar 26, 2008 9:54 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

You're right

But even more extreme than a 1 run difference the last couple years.

Last year he was 1.82 in day games with 7-1 record, 6.75 with 5-11 record in night games. Similar splits in 06', though not quite as extreme. Not that much difference in his career before that.

So he looks like Juan Marichal when God's flashlight is showing. Looks like Juan Agosto when it's not.

Not sure if it's anything because overall it is not that many innings I suppose, but it's something to keep an eye on at least. And I'd rather he just never end up with the Cubs.

by Merry CRasmus on Mar 27, 2008 1:27 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Didn't I say Looper?

I was leaving the Piniero v someone debate till later, you can easily replace Wellemeyer with Thompson and it works depending on who P replaces first. I said Reyes would replace Looper basically.

by StLHugo on Mar 26, 2008 11:39 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

My bad.

I misread (or is that misremembered?) what you wrote. You did say Looper.

by etp_stl on Mar 26, 2008 11:47 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

agreed

It's hard to come up with a realistic scenario that has Reyes pitching with the big club before, say, August (if the team is out the race then). To me, that's what's most vexing about sending him to AAA -- it's as if the team really is giving up on him, at least for this year.

by DCGreg on Mar 26, 2008 11:24 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks

for the pointer to the Schmeling article. I knew next to nothing about him until this morning.

As for Reyes and the reaction to his gem yesterday, I thought Strauss' article did a pretty good job of contextualizing the comments the coaching staff had made. My preference for Reyes is for him to contribute for the Cardinals sometime soon, so I don't have any problem with the field management downplaying his day—I don't want to see him traded away.

I'd like to see him pitch and dominate at Memphis, add another pitch (preferably a cut or split-fingered fastball), and improve the slurvy breaking pitch he throws. I don't know what Duncan has in mind when he says that Reyes needs to learn a few more things, but if it's that he has to improve and diversify his repertoire, then I'm in agreement.

Reyes may have outperformed Wellemeyer and Thompson this Spring, but he's the only one of the three with options remaining. Wellemeyer is not long for the rotation, either, with Piñiero coming off the DL in a few weeks and Mulder following not far behind. Would we prefer Reyes be demoted after a few weeks or the worse of Wellemeyer or Thompson released?

Reyes is going to be a good pitcher. I don't see a serious problem with taking a step back and letting him develop his arsenal at AAA given the opportunity.

by liam on Mar 26, 2008 10:02 AM EDT   1 recs

Preference

I would prefer...

Reyes stay in the rotation and the worse of Wellemeyer/Thompson sent to long relief. Then the bullpen guy who makes the team (Perez or McClellen) can be sent back down. They have plenty of options.

by RedbirdRay on Mar 26, 2008 10:05 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Reyes in AAA

I'm trying to argue that there are some benefits for Reyes starting the season in AAA, where he'll be the ace of a suddenly good staff, instead of pitching for the Cardinals, where his role will be (almost certainly) temporary until the high-contract pitchers return from rehab assignments. I can buy into the idea that it's best for his development to be a front-of-the-rotation starter at Memphis over controversial cannon fodder in St. Louis.

by liam on Mar 26, 2008 10:13 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Maybe

Liam, I can kinda see that I guess.

I am skeptical he has anything more to learn at a level he has already dominated over 3 season and 42 starts. But, if it's to learn more pitches...maybe. I think that's a big assumption, that he's going there to learn more pitches. I also would be loathe to find out the additional pitch would be a 2-seamer.

I really think he might just need to "learn" his way through some major league hitters on a consistant basis.

by RedbirdRay on Mar 26, 2008 10:16 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Is there any evidence ...

this year that the AAA pitching coach and Duncan are on the same page about Reyes? (Not rhetorical). Last year there was significant disagreement between Miller and Duncan on what this kid needs to do. If that is still the case, then he won't benefit anything from going to AAA. They will tell him he's doing everything right, and Duncan will continue to tell him his approach is wrong.

by etp_stl on Mar 26, 2008 11:25 AM EDT to parent up   1 recs

No need to worry about K-Mac

Pollitte and Perez were reassigned to AAA camp this morning per Goold's blog.

by paposse on Mar 26, 2008 10:04 AM EDT   0 recs

Dude....

I was JUST NOW typing that!

by StLHugo on Mar 26, 2008 10:05 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Sorry man.

Actually I was surprised no one had mentioned it yet.

by paposse on Mar 26, 2008 10:09 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Its ok

I was trying to figure out the best title when I saw yours pop up. I like this new auto refresh for just that reason.

by StLHugo on Mar 26, 2008 10:10 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Roster Set

According to Leach:

Barton and K - Mac are on the Roster barring anything unforseen

Juan Gone will not be on the roster

A few other notes though but you can read those form him at http://yourenotagolfer.mlblogs.com/obviously_youre_not_a_gol/2008/03/roster_all_but_.html

by StLHugo on Mar 26, 2008 10:48 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Oil on the fire

In that post, Matthew also says that the last two remaining spots are to be determined by Boog's health (whether it's Ryan or D'Angelo Jimenez as the backup 3B/utility INF) and for the back of the bullpen mop-up role between Kelvin Jimenez and Anthony Reyes...

Reyes is about to get beaten out of a job by such a lowly player as Kelvin Jimenez. (Who looked pretty good when I saw him pitch last week.)

I'd been hoping they'd give Hugo Castellanos his first major league innings as a mop-up man until a starter returns. (Link goes to fluff piece on Hugo). I like watching him pitch... He throws like a submariner, only from a sorta 3/4 arm slot instead of sidearm, and occasionally throws one standing up at 3/4. So I guess you'd call his usual delivery 1/4. Pretty neat to see—in last Friday's game, I got to see both Chad Bradford and Castellanos pitch, which was quite a treat.

by liam on Mar 26, 2008 12:46 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Well I wondered about that

'cause the other day Gould or someone had said the roster was pretty much set and Pollitte was on it.

What pitches does K Mac (ok ok I'll use the abbreviation) have? Does he have some giddyap?

by sdrone on Mar 26, 2008 11:21 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

RB,I am SO very glad

that you talked about Max Schmeling...I was under the mistaken impression that Max was a Nazi sympathizer until I read a wonderful story about the man in S.I. several years ago, and about how he tried to help an impoverished Joe Louis at a time when a lot of Americans had almost forgotten about him...he was a fine a gentleman as there ever was, and I don't think his story can be talked about enough.

by tbell61 on Mar 26, 2008 10:05 AM EDT   0 recs

I remember that story, also.

Oddly, I thought ESPN Classic did a piece on Joe Louis and Max Schmelling that discussed this. I could be wrong about where I saw it. It might have been on HBO, or somewhere else. It would be quite ironic if it were ESPN.

by etp_stl on Mar 26, 2008 11:31 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Anyone else think

That if the wind had been blowing out and Reyes had given up 4-5 runs, the quotes from LaRussa and company would be along the lines of "Well, you have to adapt to conditions, and Anthony didn't do that today. He still has some learning to do." Instead of blaming the wind as they did yesterday?

C70 at the Bat

by Cardinal70 on Mar 26, 2008 10:06 AM EDT   0 recs

probably

And probably for a low-level non-prospect thanks to the trash-mouth-two.

by RedbirdRay on Mar 26, 2008 10:12 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice rant RB

Can we also add in the fact that we were sold a bill of goods on Matt Clement? When they signed him, they said he would be ready to go (or something close to that)....now they're saying Mulder (ugh) might be back before Clement? What the hell?!?!?

Personally, I think we got hosed on that call.

by cardsfanindenver on Mar 26, 2008 10:12 AM EDT   0 recs

I wonder about Matt Clement.

They said he was "game ready" at the end of last year, but Boston chose to go with what they already had. Huh? If that's true, what has happened? If it's not true, who said it?

My biggest question of all is, did anyone in the organization actually go see him throw before they signed him?

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on Mar 26, 2008 5:49 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Just discovered the "wide" button

Ok, so maybe I am dense or something but I just noticed a button at the top of the page that makes the blog entries take up the entire screen, not be limited to a small space in the center. Man I love this new format.

by StLHugo on Mar 26, 2008 10:12 AM EDT   0 recs

me2

I just discovered that a bit ago also. I wonder if it was just added? I had a "Site down for temporary maint." message when I first logged today.

by RedbirdRay on Mar 26, 2008 10:18 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

It was added because us regulars at Lookout Landing threatened to light ourselves on fire

if our demands were not met.

Also, you can turn of avatars which is pretty sweet too.

Signatures are for Communists.

by JI on Mar 26, 2008 2:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nice!

We here at VEB greatly appreciate your willingness to self-immolate if necessary for these cherished updates.

P.S. Thanks, SB Nation developer guys! The new features rock!

There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

by Mr Clean on Mar 26, 2008 3:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

oh sweet

that's been my biggest peeve, and now it's fixed. Thanks ;)

Well the girls would turn the color of the avocado when he'd drive down the street in his El Dorado

by SleepyCA on Mar 26, 2008 2:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Thanks,

I'm slower than you..I never noticed that wide button. Might've took years.

by ridgesee on Mar 26, 2008 5:05 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I respectfully don't agree

What Duncan asked him up to now is in line with the flaws he showed last year (no out pitch, lack of control, no good tempo, problems with people on base, no consistency). If he believes that Reyes didn't show the good things, it's not a spring training game that will change the scenario, the implosion will be just behind the corner.

I have the impression that Tony and Dave have been patient more than enough with Reyes, trusting in him to be able to learn what he obviously lacked last year. Did he show that? To what I read, not enough.

And, to be clear, nothing would make me happier than seeing Reyes as a starter with the Cards, but nothing would make me sadder than anonther 2-14 season.

GO CARDS!!!

by SuperSeve on Mar 26, 2008 10:17 AM EDT   0 recs

In order to ...

meet Duncan's requests, Reyes changed his arm slot. This resulted in lost velocity, lost bite on his curve, too little speed change between the fastball and change-up, and control issues. This off-season he worked with someone to get his arm slot back. He is producing results with his rediscovered mechanics. Duncan couldn't identify this issue last year. Marty Mason did not identify this issue last year. They allowed the kid to flounder, and then made up the idea that the kid doesn't have "an out pitch." You don't have the minor league success he has had without "an out pitch." The reasoning doesn't make sense. In addition, this discussion of "an out pitch" doesn't address why the kid gave up all of his runs basically in one bad inning of each start. How did he get out of the other innings without being touched? Majic?

I'm not sniping at you. I just don't buy what Duncan is selling.

by etp_stl on Mar 26, 2008 11:38 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Nothing personal

But simply looking to last year's games shows you that Reyes was not following Duncan's advices at all, he was pitching high, almost not using the 2 seamer, not controlling ANY pitch apart from his worst, the curveball (which was hit hard, of course).

Regarding the single inning issue, I suggest you to look at his splits with men on base Vs with bases empty, this is showing that something is not good when men are on base, he loses control of the strike zone and starts to become nervous and then makes errors.

On top of this, if he did bad last year because he followed what Duncan said, why is he out of the team with Duncan's words that he is resistant to do what they are asking?

I repeat, I would really be happy to see Reyes succesful in our rotation, but it seems to me that, for a reason or another, the guy burned his chances.

GO CARDS

by SuperSeve on Mar 26, 2008 2:25 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I'll grant you ...

that he was not good with runners on. I haven't looked up the numbers, but several have referenced that stat. The fact that he was high in the strike zone doesn't necessarily indicate that he was not following Duncan's advice. Referencing statements last year by Dyar Millar (AAA pitching coach) and Reyes this spring, his mechanics were out of whack in trying to develop a sinker. His mechanics have been better this spring (by all reports), and his curve ball has been much sharper.

Losing control of the strike zone and making mistakes are signs of a guy that is unsure of himself, or is losing concentration. That doesn't get better by running him down in the media. That doesn't get easier for him by tinkering with his mechanics. Those are the issues that Duncan is supposed to be so good at resolving, the psychological problems.

I don't know if this is a Marquis-type issue, where the pitcher simply thinks he knows better than the coach. It seems to me that Reyes has tried to do the things Duncan has asked, but that his results have been sliding down hill. When he goes back to what he knows, he has success. If I'm in his shoes, I might be inclined to do it my way, also.

by etp_stl on Mar 26, 2008 2:46 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

stretch vs wind up

i was under the impression he wasn't comfortable pitching from the stretch. that's why he had trouble with men on base. i could be wrong.

"Sorry about him, he's dealing with being an inker. " - Chasing Amy

by FutureMan on Mar 26, 2008 9:24 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

That could be.

Now that you mention it, I do think I remember something about that. It could definitely be a valid concern. That would be a valid reason for him to be sent back down to the minors, or put into the bullpen. It would give him ample time to work on working from the stretch. I wonder why that discussion hasn't come up in any of Duncan's comments about the wind and his missing intangibles.

by etp_stl on Mar 26, 2008 9:50 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

stretch necessart

i was wondering if the stretch is always necessary? if he pitches from the stretch and is not very good then there is a good chance that the runner on first makes it to second anyway right? So why not just let him pitch from the wind up and hope the person on first isn't a good base stealer most of the time.

"Sorry about him, he's dealing with being an inker. " - Chasing Amy

by FutureMan on Mar 26, 2008 9:56 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

windup with runners on

ain't that a balk...unless bases loaded

by ridgesee on Mar 26, 2008 10:03 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I had to look it up.

Major League Rule Book
Chapter 8 - The Pitcher

8.01 - Legal pitching delivery. There are two legal pitching positions, the Windup Position and the Set Position, and either may be used at any time.

There is more, but it's a .pdf file and wouldn't copy. I also don't want to bore you, and I figure this answered the question.

by etp_stl on Mar 26, 2008 10:09 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Not a balk,

just dumb to do.

I remember during the '06 NLCS Reyes started pitching exclusively out of the stretch. Don't remember why, though, and am too lazy to look it up.

"Say something once, why say it again?"

by Alxfritz on Mar 26, 2008 10:13 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Tipping his pitches

So the team thought.

by liam on Mar 26, 2008 10:16 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

I would rather see

Mc Clellan over Perez at this time. Mc Clellan seems kind'a in a groove at the moment, Perez does not. I say Go with what's hot.

by ridgesee on Mar 26, 2008 10:18 AM EDT   0 recs

Thank you, Red Baron, for so articulately ...

voicing my anger and frustration over this LaRuscan's handling (mis-handling) of Anthony Reyes ... I am really bummed out about it; it seems so unfair ... but, I guess you just have to let it go ... they've made up their freak'in minds ...

I would also just add that I think Tony and Duncan's comments yesterday were preposterous... talk about adding fuel to the fire ... Brad pitches well, and Duncan almost breaks his neck jumping out of the dugout to pat him on the back for the TV cameras ... Anthony has a better outing and gets ripped by the same arse-hole and Tony too ... deplorable ... I would seriously consider starting a 'Fire Duncan' movement over his public handling of Reyes ... just what are these 'things he has to do' to get into your good graces ... What a crock ...

Oh well ... looks like Reyes, who has already dominated AAA, is headed back to Purgatory, because the all powerful and knowledgeable Duncan can't coach him worth a plug nickel ...

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Mar 26, 2008 10:25 AM EDT   1 recs

I agree

As I stated in the first comment, I can't believe the front office continues to allow them to run Anthony down in the press.

With scouts in the stands, they bash him. It's almost as if they don't want him to be traded. Maybe they are afraid they will be proven wrong by Anthony's success with another team?

In the meeting with Mo today, I hope he tells them to shut up or get out. If some floor supervisor at Pepsi, Disney or whereever were doing them same I am sure they wouldn't be allowed to keep running down the product.

by RedbirdRay on Mar 26, 2008 10:31 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

In a weird way...

It is almost good to let TLR/Duncan bash Reyes after that performance. Then the scouts can look at the results and see that the results and TLR/Duncan's assessments don't line up.

If all of a sudden after that performance TLR / Duncan gushed over the kid then other teams would think they just saw one good performance but that usually he is nowhere near as good.

Maybe I'm over-analyzing, or maybe it's just wishful thinking, but here's hoping the other teams see this as an irrational evaluation of Reyes and increase their assessment of Reyes' trade value accordingly. As long as Mo can convince the other teams the Cards have no problem with keeping Reyes, then at least we can get some value when we unceremoniously deal him.

by pete0713 on Mar 26, 2008 10:35 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

"He's still a young pitcher on the come," manager Tony La Russa said about Reyes. "I see him getting better."

Stop Bashing him Tony!

http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7953642

by Evilfrog on Mar 26, 2008 10:38 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

"He made a lot of good pitches," La Russa said. "Whatever the wind was doing he made some good pitches. He was helped a little by the wind. He may have been hurt by the wind. Mostly, he helped himself."

And quit saying that he only pitch that well because of the wind.

by Evilfrog on Mar 26, 2008 10:52 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Hey, Hey.

How dare you use actual statements to argue against emotional ranting? That kind of stuff is uncalled for.

Yes, that was sarcasm. LaRussa has stated many times that all pitching decisions are left up to Duncan.

by etp_stl on Mar 26, 2008 11:42 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Tony / Duncan

After gushing about Thompson, you have to admit the reaction to Reyes' performance was more than lukewarm

"I'm still looking for Anthony to do certain things that when you face first division teams you can compete against them and have a legitimate chance to be successful," Duncan said.

I mean, what the heck else is he supposed to do? I understand Duncan gives him credit for the bottom line but anytime they give him credit it is with extreme reluctance.

by pete0713 on Mar 26, 2008 2:21 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

We've got to give up

on Anthony Reyes. The odds of his contributing here are shrinking rapidly toward zero, for a multitude of reasons, all mentioned above. In thinking back over literally years of negative comments about him from LaDunc it seems to boil down to their belief that he lacks the "killer instinct" necessary to be successful at the ML level. Right or wrong, he does not appear to have a future in StL.

by vinniefromjersey on Mar 26, 2008 10:40 AM EDT   0 recs

I have to disagree with the Reyes portion of today's entry.

Regardless of their opinions on Reyes, I don't ever want TLR and Duncan making roster decisions based on a single game. This is the cognitive trap of watching baseball: short term memory. If there are things that Reyes needs to work on, one good outing shouldn't be enough to ease Duncan's concerns; just like one bad outing shouldn't be enough to get the boot.

I didn't see anything in the quotes that was particularly derogatory in nature. I still disagree with their summation of Reyes' pitching ability but yesterday's game, in and of itself, should have had little to no impact regarding the teams plans for Reyes.

by azruavatar on Mar 26, 2008 10:53 AM EDT   0 recs

Goold and Strauss's write-ups

For today on the P-D seem to point to Reyes going to Memphis and Clemments might not ever making it into the rotation. Sounds kinda related.

Also Reyes has said that he has pin pointed flaws in his timing and delivery and has been working on that this Sping. And is a lot more sure where his pitches are going compared to last year.

by Evilfrog on Mar 26, 2008 11:00 AM EDT to parent up   0 recs

One game vs the ongoing arguement.

I agree no decisions should ever be made on a single game.

I don't see it as a decision maker. I more see it as an exclamation point at end of a statement. Reyes shouldn't have had to develop a new pitch at the major league level last year. He shouldn't have had to compete for a slot this year. And, most of all, he shoudn't have been told he in competition this year if he really wasn't.

by RedbirdRay on Mar 26, 2008 2:54 PM EDT to parent up   1 recs

Why does everyone say he wasn't in Competition? From where I am sitting it looks like he was in Competition with Thompson. They posted similuar resaults in spring training. Brad's past track record looks to have pushed him forward.

by Evilfrog on Mar 26, 2008 3:02 PM EDT to parent up   0 recs

Wellemeyer

When you are beat out of the rotation by a guy like Wellemeyer, how can you call it a competition.

Statements at the beginning of spring training by TLR indicated only Looper and Wainwright were gauranteed spots.