Easter Roster Thoughts
Greetings, all you hoppin' cats and boppin' kitties. Are you all staying dry out there? I certainly hope so; the waters are starting to get awfully close to an awful lot of people. Hopefully you're up on a hill.
I haven't actually been around on the site too very much lately; I've been busy during the days, and just haven't had much of a chance to float around. I was catching up on some of the recent stuff this morning, and I came across a fanpost, (still can't quite get used to that yet) that Cardinals4Ever posted a couple of days ago. He was looking for a slogan for the 2008 Cardinal team. It's a fun idea; if you hadn't checked it out yet, you should. I love this sort of thing, and I though I would offer up a few team slogans of my own.
The 2008 Cardinals: "Oh, The Humanity!"
"Oh yeah? Well, Tony thinks your ideas are stupid!"
"The St. Louis Cardinals: Fighting age discrimination Juan Gonzalez at a time."
"Today: Fans Scouting. Tomorrow: Fans Playing!"
"You guys are saying, 'Boo-urns', right?"
"The Cardinal Code: Whatever Tony Says it Takes at this Exact Moment."
"No, You Guys Suck!"
Come on, everybody. It's cathartic! Give it a shot.
I was going to rant a bit about the whole Anthony Reyes/ Brad Thompson situation, but Hardcore has it covered in a Fanpost, and I'll just end up getting pissed off. No need to do that to myself when I'm actually in a pretty good mood this morning. Needless to say, I have some problems with the way this management team judges talent and utilises the roster. And that's all that I have to say about that.
I promised minor league reviews once the season starts. Well, the games don't really count yet, so I'm not going to track the records or anything. I will, however, give you a quick rundown of who is making an impression, one way or the other.
Trending up:
Daryl Jones- All tools and no results up til now, Jones is absolutely terrorizing pitchers at the moment. I don't have exact numbers yet, but he's collected a couple of triples, several doubles, and a three run homer this past week. I wasn't at all confident that DJ would ever put it together when I got a gander at the video of his swing over at Future Redbirds, but maybe he's finally on his way. I hope so; the more I look at him, the more he reminds me of Curtis Granderson. I don't know about you, but I would love to have that kind of dynamic talent in the Cards' lineup in a couple of years.
David Kopp- One of my personal favourites for his powerful repertoire and low stress delivery, Kopp took the mound on Tuesday. He threw 3 innings of shutout ball, striking out 5 to go along with one hit and 2 walks. As I mentioned, I'm a big believer in Kopp. I really hope he doesn't prove me wrong. Full disclosure: I absolutely hated the pick of Mortensen at the time, wailing and moaning about a wasted pick, so my record on the 2007 draft has been pretty spotty so far.
Jon Jay- One of the early darlings of the 2006 draft, Jay was projected by some team officials to win multiple batting titles. He missed most of last year due to various injuries, and struggled to get on track when he did play. So far this spring, he looks far more like he did during his debut season, getting a couple of hits seemingly every day. I still don't know how well his power profiles for a corner OF spot, but I'm a believer in his bat overall.
Trending down-
Too early to ruin all the optimism. I will say, though, that the Cards did cut quite a few players just a few days ago. Among the notable names were Dennis Dove and Mike Ferris.
Dove, you will recall, was the darling of last year's camp, catching Duncan's eye with a 96mph sinker. Unfortunately, Dove ended up with shoulder problems, and had reconstructive surgery. He came back this spring, but his velocity wasn't there, and the Cards have quite a crush of relievers anyway. Thus, Dennis became a victim of a numbers crunch. Good luck catching on somewhere, Dennis. Hopefully the guy can get his health back and get his career on track again.
Ferris was the Cards' supplemental round pick in the now infamous 2004 draft. They took him out of Miami (Ohio) University, after a monster junior season that was completely out of nowhere. Sadly, he turned back into a pumpkin. When the Cards picked Ferris, Hunter Pence, who went to the 'Stros, Jed Lowrie, who went to the Sawx, and Yunel Escobar, of the Braves, were still on the board. Sigh. I know I should let it go, but the 2004 draft really preys on my mind. It hurts me in a very visceral way.
As always, if you're looking for more in depth coverage of the Cards' minor leaguers, head over to Future Redbirds. It's the bee's knees.
All right, enough of that. I thought today we might play a game. Here are the rules: I'm going to give you the names of six players. All are on the roster currently; a couple probably will not be come opening day. What I want from you is to pick the player, of these six, you think is most likely to be a positive surprise. I then want you to pick the player you think most likely to be in another organisation at the end of the year. Please note that these two are not necessarily mutually exclusive; if you think one of these players will have a huge year and then be traded, you can use him for both. Obviously, you don't have to, but you can.
Okay. That's what I want. Player who breaks out and does something really positive, player who won't be here at the end of September, and your reasoning on each. Without further ado, here's the list:
Adam Kennedy
Cesar Izturis
Chris Duncan
Anthony Reyes
Ryan Ludwick
Todd Wellemeyer
Simple enough, right? I'm interested to see how everyone sees the edges of this roster moving. I know, at the moment, Duncan is seen as a 'core' player, but he has some definite qualities that serve to marginalise him a bit. I included him largely because I think his could be a very interesting story this year. Anyhow, have at it.
Have a happy Easter, everybody. Hope you all get a nice haul of chocolate eggs, or rabbits, or whatever it is that you receive on this particular holiday. I gots to scoot.
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I personally have a bad feeling about
Chris Duncan. Can't say why, I just do.
I look for Adam Kennedy to have a bit of a bounce back.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on Mar 22, 2008 8:56 AM EDT 0 recs
my picks
I think of the 6 Ludwick will have the big year, building on what he did last year with about 16 homers and 60 RBI's in limited action.
I think Duncan is the guy who wont be around. Like i've said before: there's no way the cards go with the all lefty outfield and he might be the worst hitter and fielder with the other 2 being Rasmus and Ankiel
"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Mar 22, 2008 9:00 AM EDT 0 recs
my picks
I can't pick Duncan. If he does well, I don't think it would "surprise" anybody.
Positive, I would include Ludwick. I think he was surprise last year but is still greatly underrated by the Cardinal base and even by the VEB community.
The player I think most likely to be with someone else at the end of the year is Jason Isringhausen. I know he has a no trade clause. I think he will finally be convinced to waive it when he realizes the Cardinals are not going to re-sign him.
I can't pick Wellemeyer or Izturis because I have doubts other teams would pick them up if they were DFAd....well, at least major league teams.
by RedbirdRay on Mar 22, 2008 9:07 AM EDT 0 recs
You do realize
that Izzy wasn't on red baron's list, right, Ray?
by cardsgirl95 on
Mar 22, 2008 9:22 AM EDT
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Mr. Red Baron......
I liked that you used the term "bees knees." I didn't think you yung'uns had ever even heard that term........
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on Mar 22, 2008 9:42 AM EDT 0 recs
Predictions...
I don't think that any of those players are going to have a particularly surprising year, per se; but I do hope that Adam Kennedy manages to play a respectable game. Not expecting something "really positive" but then again... if what we're working with is a line of .219/.282/.290 in 279 AB's... then respectability might just be enough improvement to qualify as "something really positive."
The player that'll be out of the organization by the end of the year is sadly Anthony Reyes. It seems obvious that he is just not going to succeed here under the current regime... and there's only one more option left with him, right? Just an ugly situation: management gives him little margin for error and A-Rey fails to make the most out of the few opportunities given.
by AndyB83 on Mar 22, 2008 9:48 AM EDT 0 recs
red baron -
Really liked your slogans, especially the age discrimination one. Juan Gonzalez at a time - Ha!
by cardsgirl95 on Mar 22, 2008 9:49 AM EDT 0 recs
Hard to pick
Would Adam Kennedy having a OPS over .650 be considered something really positive? I would like to pick Ryan Ludwick but I'm afraid he may have hit his ceiling.
Best pick not to be with the team is easy, Anthony Reyes. If he doesn't kill his trade value someone will give us something for him. Sorry jillsinmo I know you have a mom crush on him and don't want to see him go. I have to admit I'm starting to get a MILF crush on you.
To keep with your Forest Gump theme how about this as our slogan
Our Rotation Is Like A Box Of Chocolates, You Never Know What Your Going To Get
And that's all that I have to say about that.
"Do what you want to the women and children but leave me alone"- George Carlin
by That's a Winner on Mar 22, 2008 9:59 AM EDT 0 recs
Like a box of chocolates -
that may be the best one yet.
by cardsgirl95 on
Mar 22, 2008 10:02 AM EDT
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how bout this one
Our rotation is like a bowl full of cherries, sometimes you get the pits.
by Sea_of_Red on
Mar 22, 2008 10:40 AM EDT
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Oh, I'm blushing......but what does MILF mean. I'm old.
Absolutely Reyes is gone. I'd miss him, but at this point they shoud just do it before they break camp. SOMEONE is looking at the 11K/2BB ratio, aren't they?
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Mar 22, 2008 10:06 AM EDT
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:)
MILF = Mom I'd Like to F*ck.
:)
....my quick smells like french toast...
by mstreeter06 on
Mar 22, 2008 1:37 PM EDT
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you're embarassing yourself streeter
surf all the porn you want, but keep it off this site. if you harbor these fantasies about jill and have to declare them to her, do it off-site ----
by lboros on
Mar 23, 2008 6:11 PM EDT
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and jill, my apologies to you
for being subjected to this on my site.
by lboros on
Mar 23, 2008 6:11 PM EDT
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I want to give my full apologies
I didn't mean any disrespect to Jill or anyone on this site. I was not aware of the porn connection, I knew the term from the movie American Pie where it was used as a term of endearment for attractive mothers. A modern day equivalent to the theme of the movie The Graduate. I'm very sorry if I offended Jill, lboros or anyone reading this site. lboros feel free to delete this part of this string if you see the need.
Once again I am very very sorry. Jill you are one of the finest posters on this site and I would never want to offend you.
"Do what you want to the women and children but leave me alone"- George Carlin
by That's a Winner on
Mar 24, 2008 8:27 AM EDT
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my apologizes
my apologizes to everyone about that. i didn't mean to disrespect anyone with that comment. i was just informing people of the abbreviation. i'm sorry if it caused any offense. i love the site and love the community's thoughts on the cards.
....my quick smells like french toast...
by mstreeter06 on
Mar 24, 2008 1:49 PM EDT
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My Picks
Surprise - Kennedy
Another Org - Ludwick
I have this hunch that Ludwick will be traded this year. I think the establishment of Barton and Rasmus as integral parts to the roster by mid-season pushes Ludwick out.
Why not the others?
Given the Thompson/Reyes inanity, I suspect Duncan Sr. wields some jedi mind trick power over the current org and would never let his son get traded.
Related to that, it would be too easy for me to pick Reyes as the one to go to another org, but why would we trade him when we can keep psychologically bashing him here? Nahhhhhh, trading him would be too easy on the org and the fans....Reyes is gonna keep on working in the minors or simply retire due to the craziness he has endured. I digress.
Wellemeyer has value in the bullpen and is one of the least likely trading chips when the injured half of our bloated-when-healthy rotation returns.
We will either hang on to Izturis for dear life, which follows no logic, or he will be released and out of baseball for the rest of 2008.
Yes, I am bitter this morning. And I actually happen to believe the Cards will finish over .500 this year. Mark it, Donnie. I am simply at the end of my patience with the aged monster that is LaDunc.
by Fred Head on Mar 22, 2008 10:04 AM EDT 0 recs
Rise of Barton and Rasmus...
I think it's more likely to push out Schumaker than Ludwick. The fact that Ludwick's RH protects him to an extent because that's a shortage the Cards have. Too bad he can't hit lefties very well.
by AndyB83 on
Mar 22, 2008 10:26 AM EDT
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red baron
is this your site now or something?
by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 22, 2008 10:26 AM EDT 0 recs
" Fighting age discrimination Juan Gonzalez at a time."
That's my pick for the slogan.
Reyes see ya
&
Ludwick nice to see ya tearing it up this year.
"Why does he keep saying that?"
by Red Blazer on Mar 22, 2008 10:34 AM EDT 0 recs
Have to agree on all three Red....
Man, Im agreeing with Red Blazer on all three! Go figure!! ......; )
But boy would I love to see AK jump on the CPOTY award wagon.....and Ludwick still tear'em up.
Jaun Gonzalez, great slogan... but I hope its not prophetic! Watch him finally heal up enuff to get in a game and go 2-3 in the last ST game of the year and La Russa announce that he's the starting starting RF because he like's the way Jaun looks in a Cards away uniform and will DH in all the AL games and Bartons "weak arm" has him on the way to Cleveland. Naaaah...
"Son, we'd like to keep you around for the season but we're gonna try to win the pennant." Old Casey
by cardschinmusic on
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Near Official: Thompson in the Rotation
It was still up in the air during the debates here over the last few days, but looks like it's all but official: Thompson the #5, Reyes to Memphis, per Strauss:
Duncan recognized Thompson's performance that day and again Friday. Duncan has been more restrained in assessing Reyes but indicated Friday that Reyes, whom he classifies as "still a young pitcher," needs to address inconsistencies that affected him during last season's 2-14 slog.
Sounds to me like they had this decided well before Thompson's lone start, and the fact that he threw a good outing gave them the cover to say Puppy Kicker won the "competition". One more Duncan gem:
Duncan said that Reyes "should keep competing. With Anthony, we all think of him having been around a lot longer than he's been around. There is still plenty of time for Anthony to be a good major-league pitcher. I'm not saying it's not now, but there are certain things he can work on."
by k randolph on Mar 22, 2008 11:41 AM EDT 0 recs
and one more thing
I agree with whomever said it a couple of days ago (maybe Jillsinmo), if Reyes isn't the #5 when you have three starters injured and two at-best-league-average middle-relievers acting as starters, then when is his time? The short answer is they will never give it to him. Maybe when he dominates AAA again his value will rise a bit and they can get more than a bag of balls for him.
by k randolph on
Mar 22, 2008 11:46 AM EDT
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It was either me, or houstoncardinal. A bit of a dust up the other day......
I am the one who thinks they should put him in the rotation on opening day or trade him immediately. They only further diminish his value by putting Wellemeyer, Looper, and Thompson ahead of him. And they risk Mr. Reyes' hurting himself in AAA. Then you have less than nothing.
Fine. He blew his chances here, if they don't want to commit to him, just because I think they're wrong, doesn't mean I'm right.
There really is no reason I can see, no reason at all, to not just take the best deal out there. Anything else is even more risky IMO.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Mar 22, 2008 11:59 AM EDT
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And Mr. Azruvator, I hope you have noticed I'm trying to be more
rational and less emotional in my comments regarding Mr. Reyes. Because I've been really trying hard.....
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Mar 22, 2008 1:08 PM EDT
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Umm. A sinker?
Snark.....
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Mar 22, 2008 12:02 PM EDT
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Damn. That didn't end up where I wanted it. That reply was to you Mr. Randolph.....
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Mar 22, 2008 12:03 PM EDT
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Thompson
He's like a poor man's Brandon Webb, or was that Jason Marquis?
I''m a Jenius!
by gibbons on
Mar 22, 2008 12:19 PM EDT
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Surprise/see ya...
Reyes/Reyes & Duncan
I don't think there's anyway that he can stay around now, and I still think he's got a lot of potential.
Duncan may not be gone by September as I think he'll play the last half of the season as our starting 1B, and be traded in the offseason. Iz2 will be gone as well, but I'm not so sure another team will pick him up.
Thanks for the highlight moments 15 and 27!!!
by cardzfanbub on Mar 22, 2008 12:15 PM EDT 0 recs
Just wow......
Mattthew Leach says that Mr. Mozeliak says they are not going to be dealing a pitcher before opening day.......
Come on, Mr. Mozeliak. Be a man. You said you wanted him in the rotation on opening day. He's not. Do the right thing and trade him. Do you want me to come here and remind you of that fact. Every day?
Maybe you want him. Your own field management doesn't. No one gains anything by keeping him around. His spring has been good enough that the same teams that were interested in the fall should still be interested in the spring. Just pick up the damn phone. That simple......Thank you.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Mar 22, 2008 12:23 PM EDT
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2008 Slogan Idea
Make like Lamping and get out while you still can!
I''m a Jenius!
by gibbons on Mar 22, 2008 12:18 PM EDT 0 recs
It's really Reyes vs. Looper
Is it in the best interest of the of the Cardinals to have Reyes as the #4/#5 starter when everyone knows that when Clement and Pineiro become available, the current #4 starter (Wellemeyer) and #5 (Thompson) will be moved to the bullpen. Reyes is a starter, no doubts, right? OK, for him to get into the rotation and stay there, he has to beat out Looper for the #3 spot. So let's figure out if he is better than Looper now? Looper has a better history, Reyes has a better upside. I'm glad I don't have to make that decision.... My heart want Reyes to start, my brain says Looper will be more consistent.
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Mar 22, 2008 12:24 PM EDT 0 recs
No. I think Looper is safe. No matter what.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Mar 22, 2008 12:26 PM EDT
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Me think so too
And that makes me sad.... you root for the guy (Reyes) and he just can't quite pull it together enough to beat out a Looper. Hate to trade him and then face him three years later wearing a (gulp!) Cubs or Astros uniform.....
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on
Mar 22, 2008 12:32 PM EDT
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If the the Cards didn't signed Loshe
Then that would have made Looper the #2 guy (crazy, huh?) and would have opened the door for Reyes to be the #3 starter.
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on
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Trenders
Mr. Adam Kennedy (+)
Bounce back; he'll be a useful league-average 2B
Mr. Cesar Izturis (--)
No hope. Just a matter of how long it takes Mr. LaRussa to figure that out.
Mr. Chris Duncan (=)
He is what we thought he is.
Mr. Anthony Reyes (=)
Some good, some not so good. I do think he'll have a very good second half...for what team, I'm not sure...
Mr. Ryan Ludwick (+)
A lovely surprise this year. With all the lefties in the outfield, he'll become as essential part of the mix.
Mr. Todd Wellemeyer (-)
Mediocre, or worse.
I wish all of these players well; there are none that are on my personal s**tlist, but it'll be a very mixed bag with more downside than upside, overall.
by glennrwordman on Mar 22, 2008 12:26 PM EDT 0 recs
Off Topic
I just saw this in the Palm Beach Post. The story on Mickey Rourke is kind of funny, man he's looking rough, but this is the part that made me happy.
Speaking of baseball managers, St. Louis Cardinals skipper Tony La Russa seems to have gotten the message after last March's DUI arrest while the team trained in Jupiter. I'm told La Russa is making frequent stops at the Italian eatery Grande's Bella Cucina in Palm Beach Gardens. There, a waiter tells me, he sticks strictly to San Pellegrino .
Good for Tony, stick with the San Pellegrino.
"Do what you want to the women and children but leave me alone"- George Carlin
by That's a Winner on Mar 22, 2008 12:38 PM EDT 0 recs
Well, I should hope so.
That DUI thing was embarrassing........
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Mar 22, 2008 12:49 PM EDT
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A have a good feeling about
Ludwick being the feel-good story of the Cardinal year. It might just be my raking with him on MLB The Show, though. Goddamn video game bias!!
I think A-Rey will be gone. Too bad, too, since he's hurling in MLB The Sh--GODDAMMIT!! AGAIN!?!?
Rasmus or bust.
by Zoop on Mar 22, 2008 12:44 PM EDT 0 recs
hahaha
Ludwick has some serious power in The Show.
Start Skippy!
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Mar 22, 2008 12:54 PM EDT
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Just clubbed
a two-runner off of Big Z. I think I'll have to start this guy more often.
Rasmus or bust.
by Zoop on
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FSN Indiana?
FSN Kansas City?
Where did these networks come from?
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on Mar 22, 2008 1:03 PM EDT 0 recs
Maybe I missed it and
somebody post it ..but Cards game is on mlbtv
by ridgesee on
Mar 22, 2008 1:09 PM EDT
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Yes it is
and they just showed a commercial talking about how the Reds will be on FSN Indiana and the Royals will be on FSN Kansas City.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on
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FSN MW
I was watching FSN MW and saw the commercials too. I think those networks have been around before but they are trying to advertise them more. We won't get them in this area though.
by StLHugo on
Mar 23, 2008 1:53 AM EDT
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lohse is pitching
but they are making us watch stupid trivia questions instead of the game. grumble. Lohse looks good in the one second out of five that they showed him; he just struck morneau out on a sweet pitch but didn't get the call...
by SleepyCA on
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Cesar Izturis
After a shaky first week, Cesar realizes that his spot in the lineup is well protected and in turn begins having a season that no shortstop in the history of basball ever had. Pundits will ask each other "Hey I can't see too well, is that Ozzie Smith out there?" To top it off Cesar begins to train with Albert Pujols on how to hit for power and begins to rival Derek Jeter as a power hitting shortstop. With the line of .306/.422/.645 the Cardinals, knowing that Cesar cannot possbly maintain this kind of output, quickly look for possible trading partners. The Giants in an effort to "get younger" trade Lincecum and Cain. After the trade, Cesar "regresses to the mean" or "sucks again" and by the end of the season is living in a van down by the river.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
by OKCardsfan on Mar 22, 2008 1:11 PM EDT 0 recs
Gotta be careful
with the communion wine.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on
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THat's
not till tomorrow. But obviously I kid...I kid...
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
by OKCardsfan on
Mar 22, 2008 1:46 PM EDT
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Feeling like a bright sider today
I dunno maybe its watching all this NCAA March Madness and seeing underdogs win. Anybody else watch that Drake/Western Kentucky Game? That game was an instant Classic in my opinion. I was sad as an Iowan to see Drake lose, but it was a good game anyway....
I see Reyes actually getting it together this year. (Hopefully he somehow gets a spot in the rotation at some point)
As for not being with the organization.... Most likely Chris Duncan. I agree he'll probably play a lot of first base this year and be moved in the off-season. And my family and friends all will ask me why we would ever trade Chris Duncan, constantly. I'll talk about this site and they still won't understand.....
"If I managed the Cubs, I'd be an Alcoholic." - Whitey Herzog
by cyko42 on Mar 22, 2008 1:41 PM EDT 0 recs
I got to see them win the MVC tournament. They absolutely owned Illinois State.
Great game and I hate tosee Drake go to. One of those times you kind of wished both teams could win.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Mar 22, 2008 2:19 PM EDT
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Lohse off to a good start
3 IP, 3 H, 1 ER, 1 BB, 3 SO
Cardinal fan in the heart of Braves country
by Mr Redbird on Mar 22, 2008 1:48 PM EDT 0 recs
I see
Bobby Knight is in a Cardinal uniform over in the dugout with La Russa. I'd like to see La Russa run him out on the field to argue a couple umpire calls. That should be good.
by ridgesee on Mar 22, 2008 1:56 PM EDT 0 recs
several positives
IMO ludwick and duncan have already broken out, though they haven't reached their peaks yet. I expect a .280/.360/.500 line out of ludwick and about a .290/.380/.550 out of duncan. I think they both have 30-40 HR power.
For the real breakout though, AK's gonna come back and have a 100 OPS+ season. I've never been more wrong about a player than i was when we signed him, and as much crap as I've given him out of frustration i still think he's a decent ballplayer.
Izturis and Schumacher will be gone by June, and either Wellemeyer or Reyes will be included in a trade in july. One of duncan/ludwick will also be traded. We won't get full value for either.
by SleepyCA on Mar 22, 2008 1:57 PM EDT 0 recs
Colby Jack
Has the nickname Colby-Jack been suggested for Rasmus? Look forward to seeing him later this season.
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Yep
Dunno if it's been suggested, but I've talked about my desire to make "Colby-JACK!" signs for the season.
Rasmus or bust.
by Zoop on
Mar 22, 2008 3:19 PM EDT
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I've never questioned his bat...
just his defense. Case in point, he probably should have caught that popup by bonser.
by SleepyCA on
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I'd rather they trade Ludwick
Or even Duncan.... I'd kind of like them to keep the Shu.
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Shannon and Rooney were just talking about ...
Ickturis ... in addition to the rest of his crappy play ... they say he has clearly missed two tags on stolen base throw-outs this spring ... I'm sure Yadi appreciates that ... is there ANYTHING about this guy's game were supposed to like !!! and this one just cost us the second run ... and oh, by the way, the last rally killer he contibuted to raises his total in that department to eight for Feb/Mar ...
Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...
by Cardinals4Ever on Mar 22, 2008 2:16 PM EDT 0 recs
In my opinion, missing a tag ...
when the throw beats the runner is as serious as a error ... so, in my opinion ... Ickturis now has nine ... and they got this guy to shore up the defense ???!!!
Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...
by Cardinals4Ever on
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the throw on Gomez didn't quite beat him
iz2 played that fine and actually made it look closer than it should have been. Gomez just had the jump because the pitch was a slow curve ball.
I hate him too, but I do believe in giving guys I hate the credit when they do well ;) Just in case they surprise you.
As I'm typing this, yadi throws out a guy at second; the runner was definitely beat and iz2 just didn't catch it. Hate on him for that one, for sure.
by SleepyCA on
Mar 22, 2008 2:56 PM EDT
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and Icturis kills a 2-out rally in the 6th ...
that's nine for month ... I hate this guy's play ...
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by Cardinals4Ever on
Mar 22, 2008 2:36 PM EDT
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And then lets Yadis throw roll into the out-field....Im not liking this guy very much.
by Evilfrog on
Mar 22, 2008 2:55 PM EDT
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the Twins have scored three times today on sac flies ...
and two of them have been because Ickturis can't make a tag or catch a ball at 2nd on a steal attempt!
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by Cardinals4Ever on
Mar 22, 2008 3:02 PM EDT
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He showed a really strong arm on all his throws today
but it wasn't particularly accurate. He almost pulled Pujols off the bag a couple times.
by azruavatar on
Mar 22, 2008 5:37 PM EDT
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izturis' "strong arm"
is going to get albert killed. He hasn't had a throw TO first base yet.
by SleepyCA on Mar 22, 2008 2:18 PM EDT 0 recs
Breakout and traded
Cesar Izturis will be much better than most expect. He will hit for a decent average and his defense will be outstanding.
Anthony Reyes is gone by the end of April. Traded to Florida for a prospect and will go on to win 13 games for the Marlins.
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