2008 Draft Preview- College Position Players
The Cardinals had an off day yesterday, and I haven't done one of these in a couple of weeks, so I think it's a pretty good day for it.
Derrick Goold, as always, delivers the goods over at Bird Land. He has a great little piece up about Bryan Anderson and Mike Matheny. As a huge Anderson backer, I love reading stuff like this.
Not a whole lot of an intro today, let's just get right into it. In this edition of the draft preview, I'll be covering a couple of collegiate position players.

5'9" 170lbs.
DOB:26th January, 1987
So, what's so great about this guy?
Jemile Weeks is the younger brother of Rickie Weeks, the Milwaukee Brewers' second baseman. Much like his older brother, Jemile is a ridiculously athletic middle infielder. Overall, though, there are just as many differences between the two brothers as there are similarities.
Jemile is a prototypical leadoff type hitter. He offers pure speed that rates a 70 or even an 80 on the scouting scale. He has the same strong wrists and quick bat as his brother, and he's a switch hitter to boot. Jemile does not, however, bring the same kind of power to the plate that Rickie does, as his overall physical strength is not as great. Jemile has excellent on base skills, with very good plate discipline to go along with the ability to make consistent, solid contact. He does have the ability to drive the ball with some power into the gaps, making him a triple waiting to happen.
In the field, Jemile uses his small, nimble frame to play a well above average second base. The same speed that makes him such a threat on the basepaths translates into excellent range in the middle of the diamond. Along with his range, Weeks has extremely quick hands, allowing him to make a fast transfer from glove to throwing hand. His arm is also above average, allowing him to make plays that very few other second baseman can. He's a polished, fundamentally sound player in all phases of the game, with good footwork and an excellent idea of what he wants to do at all times.
Weeks is a very intriguing player. He's polished enough that he could potentially move quickly through a farm system, while being athletic enough to offer a fairly high ceiling. Picking him at 13, though, might be a bit too high. I doubt he'll be available in the supplemental round. Personally, I see Weeks going sometime in the 20-28 range overall. I would love to get him in the supp., but I think he's going to fall in between the Cardinals' picks. (Come to think of it, I seem to have said that about an awful lot of players.)
Gordon Beckham, SS, University of Georgia
6'0" 185lbs.
DOB: 16th September, 1986
So, what's so great about this guy?
Beckham is, quite possibly, the hottest player in the nation right now. He was already seen as a mid to late first round pick going into this season, and he has started out like a house on fire. So far, he's leading the SEC in most categories. All you really need to know, though, is that he's hitting .507 and has 9 home runs in 15 games.
On the field, Beckham is a complete player. He doesn't offer quite the off the charts athleticism of Jemile Weeks, but performs admirably in all phases of the game. To begin with, Beckham is one of the best bats available in the draft who doesn't play first base. In 2007, his sophomore season, Beckham hit .307, with 13 round trippers, 19 doubles, and 51 RBIs. He started all 56 games last year and held up well even in the Georgia heat. He has a good approach at the plate, with a balanced, line drive stroke from the right side. He gets excellent bat speed, and has enough loft to drive mistakes out of the park. At times, his swing can get a little long, but that has happened much less often as he's matured as a player.
Beckham's physical tools are above average across the board. He's not a burner, but still offers good speed, both on the basepaths and in the field. His arm is strong and accurate, allowing him to make plays from the hole at short. He has all the tools to be a standout defensive player, but, to this point, hasn't quite put it together. He made 16 errors last season, good for only a .943 FP. Most of his errors, though, at least from what I understand, are of the ill advised throws and overzealous play type. Those sorts of errors can be eliminated with coaching. Beckham would have better luck if he learned to play a bit more under control in the field. Beckham's build is a little reminiscient of Miguel Tejada, with a more solid, muscular frame than the waterbug type you see from many middle infielders. He is a couple inches taller than Tejada, though.
Bottom line, Beckham was seen going somewhere between 12 and about 18 or 19 in the draft before the season. He has obviously increased his stock with his performance thus far. He offers an attractive package of polish and upside for the Cardinals, if he were available and they chose to pick him. The Cards have taken a shortstop in the first round two out of the last three years, though, and I wonder if they would really want to take another. Personally, I think Beckham would be a very nice pick. I generally prefer high schoolers, but Beckham fits in with my desire for the team to build up the middle first, with premium defensive position players being preferable.
Buster Posey, C, Florida St.
6'2" 200lbs.
DOB:
So, what's so great about this guy?
Buster Posey is on of the most intriguing players in the entire draft. Posey plays catcher now, but up until last year, he was a shortstop and occasional closer. As befitting a former middle infielder, Posey offers an athletic base of tools that really aren't in line with your typical catcher.
Last year, his first at the catcher position, Posey hit .382, with 94 hits overall, 21 doubles, and 65 RBIs. He's a legitimate top or middle of the lineup hitter, offering enough on base skills to bat 2nd or 3rd, with enough present power to project as possibly a 5th or 6th hitter. Posey helped his stock significantly last summer with a great performance in the Cape Cod League, showing off a swing that translates to wood very well.
Posey's offensive profile is very impressive, with polish to spare. There are some questions about his long term power potential, though. Some scouts see him as a future slugger, while others see him topping out around the 15 HR mark or so. Either way, at the catcher position, Posey is a rare commodity. His speed is just average, although good for a catcher, and his range at short was a little suspect, a big reason why he was moved.
Defensively, while he is still admittedly developing, Posey appears poised beyond his experience level. He appeared in all 62 games that Florida State played last year, and accumulated a .994 FP. His arm is strong, even for a catcher, and accurate, allowing him to throw out 41% of attempted basestealers last season. As a closer, Posey topped out around 93 mph, so his arm obviously isn't a concern. He also had solid mechanics and a good breaking ball, showcasing excellent body control, which should allow him to excel at blocking balls and setting to throw down the line. It's not all rosy for Posey, though, (see what I did there?) at least not behind the plate. He's obviously still developing and learning the position. He moves well, but his technique at blocking balls and his footwork overall is still somewhat raw. When the only real negatives on a player are related to inexperience, though, you have to believe you have a potentially special player.
I see a little bit of Russel Martin or J.R. Towles in Posey. A catcher with athletic abilities that are very unusual for the position, he has definite impact potential. Given that, though, I'm having kind of a tough time figuring out where Posey is going to go in the draft. I think he would be a really good pick for the Cards, but I don't really see them taking him. Catcher is a position of real depth in the organisation, and I'm not sure if they would want to spend such a high draft pick on a player they might see as somewhat redundant. I think Posey is such an unusual talent, though, that he would make a wonderful addition to the farm system, completely apart from any other factors.
I'm not sure if any of these three players really represent a likely choice for the Cardinals in June. All three are extremely talented players, and all three could potentially be impact players down the road. Given where the Cards' strengths, weaknesses, and recent draft history falls, though, all three of these guys could be passed over for various reasons.
All right. About two more of these, I think. 'Til next time, everybody.
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Your link to Gordon Beckham doesn't work.
If he's from Georgia, forget about him. The Braves will make sure they draft him......
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on Mar 19, 2008 10:15 AM EDT 0 recs
Also, the birdland link...
should be
http://www.stltoday.com/blogzone/bird-land/bird-land/2008/03/anderson-catches-mathenys-attention/
It's a good read. How long before Matheny is officially on the Cards' payroll as a coach/instructor?
by taiko on
Mar 19, 2008 12:48 PM EDT
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I think...
Matheny has come out and said at least 2011 or 2013 - i.e. - after his kids are out of school. (whether that is elementary school or high school or somewhere in between, I don't know.)
stlfan
by stlfan on
Mar 20, 2008 11:40 AM EDT
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13th pick
Don't they pick after we do?
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by nomar34 on
Mar 19, 2008 1:20 PM EDT
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Baron, you mentioned Goold's post
about Anderson, but you failed to hit this interesting bit:
"Kyle Russell, OF, University of Texas: Last year, as a sophomore-eligible draftee, Russell led NCAA Division I in home runs. … (The Cardinals) were unable to sign him, not because they didn’t try, or didn’t want to; they just didn’t feel he was worth seven figures because of his loopy swing and propensity for strikeouts. Returning to college for his junior year, Russell had seen his stock drop significantly, hitting just one home run in 51 at-bats as part of a bizarre .255/.480/.373 line that includes 18 walks and 17 strikeouts. Sure, he’s getting pitched around, but at least as this point, with last year’s holdout, he cost himself hundreds of thousands of dollars."
BTW, it was great to hear that Matheny is taking it upon himself to school this youngster. I sure hope Mike is offered/accepts some sort of coaching gig in our organization.
by silent_bob on Mar 19, 2008 10:51 AM EDT 0 recs
Russell
I knew this would happen to him all along. He had one great year with Aluminum but never put it together with wood. Even if he had a great year again this season I doubted he would get more then what he was offered. Why not jump into a minor league system now and try to get to the MLB one year sooner?
by StLHugo on
Mar 19, 2008 10:54 AM EDT
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Yeah
Once again, what the team did with him made sense: they wanted him, but they weren't going to give him a huge contract beyond the value of a player that had never played in a wood bat league. For now, it looks like they made the right decision, and Russell got too excited about the dollar signs in his eye.
by Valatan on
Mar 19, 2008 1:21 PM EDT
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All college players = aluminum bats?
This is a dumb question, but should we assume that all of these players are playing with aluminum bats?
I wouldn't worry so much in the case of a guy like Beckham who is on a tremendous binge, but an all-speed/gap-power guy like Jemile Weeks might take a severe downward turn in value with a poor transition to wood bats....
"Attaway to stomp 'em. Stomp the piss out of 'em. Stomp 'em when they're down. Kick 'em and stomp 'em. Attaway to go boys. Pound that old Budweiser into you and go get them tomorrow." -- Joe Schultz
by taiko on
Mar 19, 2008 4:16 PM EDT
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thats how I understand it
From what I have gathered College and below leagues use Aluminum bats (wood bats breaking seem to be a safety concern but the faster balls I guess aren't as big of one). Some summer leagues use wood though and it is in those leagues that Russell struggled tremendously compared to his previous NCAA season.
by StLHugo on
Mar 19, 2008 4:52 PM EDT
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Matheny's
comments about Anderson also gave me a lift. I cringed a little each time Anderson's name was mentioned in trades this winter on VEB (and his name was thrown around a good bit). I don't know, I have just had a feeling about him...though I'm usually only about half-right.
I only saw him once in the Tiawan Championship series and he didn't disappoint me. I thought he looked like a hitter and I thought he looked like a catcher.
by ridgesee on Mar 19, 2008 11:22 AM EDT 0 recs
Weeks
Having seen him play last year at the Mizzou regional I'd be underwhelmed (Mizzou by the way is pitching insanity this year, they've struck out 58 batters the last 5 games, the team's K/9 is 9.85). He's more really quick than true 70/80 burner speed so he's not a true Jose Reyes/Carl Crawford turn-a-single-into-a-double type. The rest you mention, a solid player no doubt but not 13th overall at least as I saw.
With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch
by joker24 on Mar 19, 2008 11:38 AM EDT 0 recs
Draft
I am getting really excited for the draft...I dont know why maybe I am following a little closer this year but I would be happy with either Weeks or Beckham (although i would like to get weeks in the supp round) I think there are a lot of players that could help us out in this draft...
p.s. Baron you really need an avatar, unless that is really you in the generic one...in which case, bravo
"Back in the day when I played, a pitcher had 3 pitches: a fastball, a curveball, a slider, a changeup and a good sinker pitch." - Mike Shannon
by nomar34 on Mar 19, 2008 11:53 AM EDT 0 recs
Buster Posey
I appreciate your comments on Posey and agree with them. I've followed him at FSU, and this year he has played C and 2b as well as closing games. I expect that his fundamentals at catcher will improve, and would love to see the Cards take a chance on him. A surplus of capable catchers seems to me to be an advantage, not a problem.
by madridbend on Mar 19, 2008 11:59 AM EDT 0 recs
Off Topic - Red Sox Boycott
Black eye today to MLB thanks to whomever decided NOT to pay the coaches and trainers a promised $40,000 bonus. A two week trip to Japan deserves something for these guys. Hmm.... someone is to blame.... Hey Selig! Wake up and pay the guys!
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Mar 19, 2008 12:27 PM EDT 0 recs
Saw that on ESPN
That is absolutely ridiculous. I applaud the Red Sox for the steps they're taking in this matter.
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by redbirdnation8206 on
Mar 19, 2008 12:31 PM EDT
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MLB can pay
Hmmm.... They can make up the money they promised to pay (and I think they will) by fining the players $50,000 for boycotting todays game against the Bluejays. What a joke this all is. Maybe other teams will boycott today..... we'll just have to wait and see how this plays out. Bad for Baseball is what it is. MLB made millions last year and someone thinks saving a million on this trip is worth all this?
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Mar 19, 2008 12:47 PM EDT 0 recs
Gameday link
I finally found a source for gameday links but today's isn't working. Anybody having any luck?
Start Skippy!
by stltrav09 on Mar 19, 2008 1:15 PM EDT 0 recs
Try this one ...
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/y2007/gd.html?2008_03_19_slnmlb_balmlb_1&brand=mlb
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by Cardinals4Ever on Mar 19, 2008 1:18 PM EDT 0 recs
Always glad to help ...
If for some reason you can't access Liam's site (I had trouble a couple of times), the official MLB link to Gameday is:
http://www.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/
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by Cardinals4Ever on
Mar 19, 2008 2:17 PM EDT
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Also ...
One of the blog frequenters, Liam, has a site with all the Gamedays links ... it is:
http://heylisten.blogspot.com/search/label/gameday
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by Cardinals4Ever on Mar 19, 2008 1:20 PM EDT 0 recs
It is niced to see that Albert won't be going
through a 3 month slump to start the season again this year.
Oh yeah, Cesar still sux.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on Mar 19, 2008 1:33 PM EDT 0 recs
Albert Rocks !!!
I love to watch that man bat ... he's the best hitter I've ever seen ... I hope he gets out to a fast start and stays at least as healthy as he is right now ...
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by Cardinals4Ever on
Mar 19, 2008 1:53 PM EDT
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Cesar ICKturis ...
kills another rally ... I'm going to start tracking them from now on ... taking a quick look back, that looks like the fifth time he's killed a rally this spring ...
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by Cardinals4Ever on Mar 19, 2008 1:51 PM EDT 0 recs
Thanks for playing anyway ...
Mr. Loewen ...
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by Cardinals4Ever on Mar 19, 2008 1:56 PM EDT 0 recs
Whoa!
Kennedy doubles, Isturiz singles him home. Can you believe it. What a powerful combo they make.
by ridgesee on Mar 19, 2008 2:20 PM EDT 0 recs
I'm really happy about the way ...
Adam K. has caught fire recently ... I've always like him at 2B (except for last year, of course) ... good to see him back ... I hope it carries forward to the season ... Mr. Ickturis still has a bit to prove, me thinks ...
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by Cardinals4Ever on
Mar 19, 2008 2:23 PM EDT
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We've got the hitting shoes on today ...
Even ICKturis singles, has an RBI, steals a base and scores ... keep it up ... you know they're gonna play him ...
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by Cardinals4Ever on Mar 19, 2008 2:21 PM EDT 0 recs
Bad Pitching
Me thinks exceptionally poor pitching may also be playing a role. 4 BBs, 2 hbp / 3 innings = control issues.
by Titus Pullo on
Mar 19, 2008 2:25 PM EDT
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I'm gonna back off AK for awhile..
gotta give credit where credit is due. He's hitting the ball
Start Skippy!
by stltrav09 on Mar 19, 2008 2:23 PM EDT 0 recs
Spring batting AVGs
Our current lineup actually has some decent averages besides Molina and Izturis:
Schumaker: .333
Barton: .341
Pujols: .381
Glaus: .368
Ankiel: .367
Ludwick: .286
Molina: .220
Kennedy: .368
Izturis: .158
by StLHugo on Mar 19, 2008 2:24 PM EDT 0 recs
Thompson ...
is having a great start so far (knock on wood) ... I would rather see him in the rotation temporarily rather than Looper ... I think Looper needs to go back to the pen ... it looks like last year was an apparition (sp) ... move Brad back to the pen when Piniero and/or Clement become available ...
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by Cardinals4Ever on Mar 19, 2008 2:29 PM EDT 0 recs
I don't see that happening
If Thompson makes the rotation, it'll be because they've decided to send Reyes to Memphis. Looper may not end the season in the rotation, but I've seen no sign that TLR is considering bumping him to the bullpen at this stage.
by DCGreg on
Mar 19, 2008 2:35 PM EDT
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Opening day rotation
I think it could happen with Reyes staying up.
This could be our opening day rotation: Wainwright, Lohse, Looper, Reyes, Thompson/Wellemeyer
Unless Clement, Mulder or Pineiro are ready opening day then there are 2 slots to fill and Thompson is fighting for at least one of em.
by StLHugo on
Mar 19, 2008 2:38 PM EDT
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I think ...
Tony should really start considering it ... Looper seems clueless out there so far ...
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by Cardinals4Ever on
Mar 19, 2008 2:41 PM EDT
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It will be interesting to see what they do.
Does anyone remember Mr. Mozeliak saying he wanted Anthony Reyes in the rotation in the PD awhile back? Are we about to find out something here when they name the rotation? Like who is in charge here? Stay tuned..........
Actually, I bet Mr. Duncan and Mr. LaRussa would rather have Mr. Looper looking bad than Mr. Reyes or Mr. Thompson looking good. It's much less risky; they have lots of notes on cards about Mr. Looper, not so many on Mr. Reyes and Mr. Thompson.
Boy, I sound like a cynical beetch, don't I. Sorry. Good day to you all!
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Mar 19, 2008 3:15 PM EDT
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Strauss already has announced the rotation
Lohse
Wainwright
Looper
Wellemeyer
Reyes
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on
Mar 19, 2008 3:22 PM EDT
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continuing that thought
(while I continue to learn how the new platform works), Strauss' story said Wellemeyer was in but the last slot is still up in the air.
by DCGreg on
Mar 19, 2008 3:41 PM EDT
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I'm glad to see Anthony's name on there.
I have a huge Mom crush on him because of the way he handled himself last year; he behaved as a serious professional should behave, even if he didn't pitch like one, and I admired him for that. It had to be hard-he had never failed like that as a pro or in college.
But the crush intensified after he reported to camp saying he didn't think one more moment about it, went to the beach, turned off his phone, telling his agent to call him if he hears anything about being traded, and went to work. He went through a rigorous physical regiman, worked on his pitching mechanics with an old coach and his father, because they knew him best when he was going good. Took a moment to remind himself that he played baseball because he loved to, and determined to make sure it was fun for him again.
He hasn't been a world beater in spring training, but he has shown up ready, and what appears to be a determination to NOT repeat the past. I hope it works out for all involved...
If you're reading this Mr. Reyes, you can date my daughter.....heck, you can even date my son!
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Mar 19, 2008 3:52 PM EDT
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Oh, so after my long post Anthony's not there.
Never mind.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Mar 19, 2008 3:54 PM EDT
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does that mean
he can't date your son anymore?
Seriously, the spot is probably his to lose.
by DCGreg on
Mar 19, 2008 3:57 PM EDT
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Nope. He can date my son too.
You do know I'm kidding-as for as I know my son nor Mr. Reyes is gay.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Mar 19, 2008 3:59 PM EDT
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But I should stop there......that's how rumors get started. My bad.....
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Mar 19, 2008 4:00 PM EDT
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Jill
Don't worry, Anthony was locked in as #5 when I went to the link.
It was:
Lohse
Wainer
Looper
Welle
Reyes
I would like Reyes to start because he has more upside than Joel P, Matt C, Brad Thompson, Mark Mulder, Looper, Welle.......... It does not mean he will be good, but he is younger and was pretty highly touted. I see them giving him every chance to fail just like last year. He can't really be traded for much at this time so you need him to pitch well no matter if you want to keep him or trade him.
I will agree Jill, I never really heard much about Reyes complaining, but I don't remember many of the guys complaing last year.
by ICbirdfan on
Mar 19, 2008 4:26 PM EDT
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Where are you seeing that list?
Here's the paragraph I'm seeing in Strauss' story today:
Wainwright, Lohse, Looper and Wellemeyer appear set. Duncan has not yet publicly committed to the enigmatic Reyes, who threw four scoreless innings against Atlanta on Monday but remains in competition with Brad Thompson, today's scheduled starter against the Orioles.
by DCGreg on
Mar 19, 2008 4:43 PM EDT
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DCGreg
I got it from the link you posted. It went to the PD.
There is a picture with the starters. Then down the article in the
STARTERS: ENVELOPE PLEASE,. it like of said Lohse, Wainer, Looper, Welle, and Reyes would be starters and Welle and Reyes are starters since Pinero and Clement will be pushed back. Of course Carp and Mulder are out of the equation now.
I just assumed Reyes beat out Thompson.
by ICbirdfan on
Mar 19, 2008 5:15 PM EDT
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The next paragraph
If you read the next paragraph after that IC you will see the quote DCGreg posted which says that is the predicted and all but Reyes are set.
by StLHugo on
Mar 19, 2008 5:21 PM EDT
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I see
Hummm.... Well let's see what happens. I don't see Reyes as a bull pen type guy. I would just keep Thompson in the pen and use him as a spot starter, which seems to be his best role. I think Anthony should get a chance at the starting spot.
Thanks Hugo, I was just kind of skimming the article and assumed Reyes was the 5th starter.
by ICbirdfan on
Mar 19, 2008 6:22 PM EDT
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Oh, yee of little faith.
I don't assume he's going to be anything like last year.
This idea that they can't trade him is false. They probably won't get a pitcher for him, but they most certainly can trade him. There were 10 teams that inquired about him at the winter meetings, all Mr. Mozeliak has to do his start calling those teams. I'm sure one of them can find a spot for a young, cheap, promising pitcher-because where you see failure, someone else sees Oliver Perez, or Bronson Arroyo, or any number of young arms that struggled at the beginning of their career.
There is a market for him-and I got that from a friend that's a scout.........
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Mar 19, 2008 4:46 PM EDT
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Reyes
I don't think he can be as bad as last year, that would be tough to do!
I am not sure how good he can be, but he surely can't be that bad. I know he is tradeable and teams would like to see what they can do with him. I was saying he is not tradeable if you are the Cardinals and are interested in getting some talent for him. Heck they could trade him today for anybody, but it does not mean STL is getting a good player. They have no need to just unload Reyes at this point.
I don't know why people are so worried about the Cardinals having "too many pitchers" Heck with the rotation right now no one outside of Lohse or Wainwright is gauranteed to give you much. I am not saying Lohse is great but you know he will eat innings and be average. AW looks to be heading in the right direction so I say he at worst will be league average.
by ICbirdfan on
Mar 19, 2008 5:19 PM EDT
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Yowzer
I hope Reyes and Looper can go deep in some games this year. Those last three pitchers (Looper, Wellemeyer, Reyes) will be lucky if they average six innings a start, imo.
That's a lot of innings for the bullpen to pick up.
by arch support on
Mar 19, 2008 4:46 PM EDT
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I'm going to let him get shelled in a couple of regular season games first
For all we know, he's working on a new pitch or something, and it's not a pitche he's going to feature. Or he's just trying to improve hitting his spots and isn't throwng at his normal effort level. It's spring training, after all.
by Valatan on
Mar 19, 2008 3:24 PM EDT
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Is it just me ...
or does Gameday seem to be acting Wack-o today ...
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by Cardinals4Ever on Mar 19, 2008 2:44 PM EDT 0 recs
I could lie.....
But I cannot. It's wack-o indeed! But if the Cards can score 7 or more doing it this way, I'll bid my time.
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on
Mar 19, 2008 2:49 PM EDT
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Perhaps there offensive prowess ...
has stunned the Gameday administrators ...
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by Cardinals4Ever on
Mar 19, 2008 2:52 PM EDT
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hey ... Ickturis with another hit and run scored ...
maybe he is dumbfounding Gameday all by himself ... watch out! ... one more hit and he may break .200 ...
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by Cardinals4Ever on
Mar 19, 2008 2:59 PM EDT
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Can't tell
truth from fiction from the way gameday is all over the place today, but poor Ludwick and Molina have stranded 15 runners between them. You know that makes them happy.
by ridgesee on
Mar 19, 2008 4:09 PM EDT
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Must be a rain delay
or Steve Traschel has entered the game.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on
Mar 19, 2008 2:52 PM EDT
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HA !
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by Cardinals4Ever on
Mar 19, 2008 2:53 PM EDT
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+...out of pluses.
Hardcore took them all. DRATS!
Rasmus or bust.
by Zoop on
Mar 19, 2008 3:59 PM EDT
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Has to be the "Iz" fault GAMEDAY bites today.
Two for Three, RBI, Two Runs, Stolen Base and several put-outs. I guess the inflection of being called "Spivey-like" (present company included) has him fired up.
by OKCARDSFAN_411 on Mar 19, 2008 3:00 PM EDT 0 recs
Thompson
is always an option for #5 starter. He is not half-bad if truth be told.
by ridgesee on Mar 19, 2008 3:03 PM EDT 0 recs
I have ALWAYS like Brad ...
He comes in and gets outs, most of the time ... He's having a terrific spring ... and he sure just pitched out of 2nd and 3rd, 1 out trouble just now ... the kid's good ... I do think though he's better coming out of the pen ... I know he was a starter in the minors ... he just doesn't seem to be as consistently good as a starter ...
Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...
by Cardinals4Ever on
Mar 19, 2008 3:11 PM EDT
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Okay. This new platform is really great, but
I just lost a long screed of a post somewhere in cyberspace. ARG! I'm going home.....
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on Mar 19, 2008 3:08 PM EDT 0 recs
It happens Jills
It is called being screwed by the screen, that's all.
by ridgesee on
Mar 19, 2008 3:11 PM EDT
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when typing long posts
i've started using word/note pad and then copy/paste to post. it has saved me a fair amount of aggravation.
by dmb60614 on
Mar 19, 2008 3:25 PM EDT
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Oh, thanks.
That's too much information for me though. If I have to put any thought into anything I do at my computer, I'm done. Just ask any of your old friends-they'll tell you the same thing. We can only do what we can do, if you catch my drift.
But really, thanks for the info......
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Mar 19, 2008 3:29 PM EDT
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Jillsinmo
I think I see how you lost your string of post...Red Baron continued his post to a second page. If you leave the thread and come back and click on comments at the 1st page, you will only see the 1st 16 comments..but if you click on link to continue to 2nd page then click comment you will see them all.
Strange, ain't it.
by ridgesee on
Mar 19, 2008 3:42 PM EDT
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Nooooooo.....
Stop! I have to think to do that.....
She isn


