Monday Morning Media Musings
Well, the new format is here. It's going to take some time to get used to, I suppose. So far, I'm okay with it, but not completely ecstatic. Probably just the newness of the thing. Some of the new features seem pretty great, but it doesn't seem much easier to use to me. Oh well. Doesn't really matter what I think, does it? I'll get used to it. Trust me, I'm usually like this about new things. I don't like them for awhile, then, once I'm used to it, I can see the good things about it. Just part of my nature, I suppose.
Anyway, I took over today in order to give Lb a day off since he had severe extra duties over the weekend, trying to get everything all set up. I thought I would keep it brief today, seeing as how I'm sure many are still playing around with the new site itself, and just offer up a quick topic for everyone to discuss.
First, though, I wanted to say that I've been reading quite a bit lately that Chris Perez is unlikely to make the team out of spring. After watching him pitch, particularly yesterday afternoon, I have to say, I think he belongs on this team. There's been some discussion of starting McClellan in the major league bullpen, and that sounds like an okay idea to me, but Perez just looks ready to compete at this level. He obviously still has a couple of rough edges, but I think he'll learn more in St. Louis, taking his turns in the fifth or sixth innings, than he would closing down in Memphis. I could be wrong, but he just looks to me like he should be here.
Two years ago, at the beginning of the 2006 season, the Cardinals moved from their longtime home, KMOX, to KTRS. Last year, they jumped from channel 11 locally to KSDK, channel 5. At this point, I think we've seen enough of what each move offers, coverage wise, that everyone probably has an opinion by now. Of course, I know a lot of you follow the Cardinals through primarily online means, so this doesn't really apply to you. Sorry about that. But for the rest of you, who live within the broadcast range of the Cards' radio network, and those who view the game on channel 5 locally, what do you think of the coverage of the team the last couple of years? Is it better? Worse? Neither? Has the coverage taken a hit since the team owns its own media outlet? Which personalities do you like? Which ones do you wish would just go away?
I believe I've made my own feelings on most of the media members fairly clear in the past, (ie, I despise most of the coverage, particularly on the radio side) so I'm not going to go off on a rant here. I'm just interested in what all of you think, now that we've had some time with the new outlets.
Happy Monday, everybody.
One other thing. If this is your first look at the new format, jump over and take a look at the welcome guide. It's got all the instructions you need to get yourself properly set up.
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Too long, didn't read
just kidding. You might want to reformat that to include some returns.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on Mar 17, 2008 3:17 AM EDT 0 recs
Eerie...
I was just going to say, you really need to use paragraphs, because in the new format, everything is bunched together in the middle of the screen (making it harder to read). But then they magically appeared.
by DiscoJer on Mar 17, 2008 3:19 AM EDT 0 recs
First of all...
this was my first time seeing Perez and Motte pitch. They look like they can be a dominant 1-2 punch in the bullpen for years to come. I really hope they both get a chance to spend significant time on the ML roster this year. Thoroughly impressed.
Secondly, channel 5 has the most horrible baseball broadcasts I've ever seen. Flat out pathetic. I just don't think I can take Jay Randolph calling players by the wrong name anymore. Ricky Horton is ok I guess. The pre-game includes a lot of really good interviews by Cusamano. I'm a big fan of his. The in-studio pre-game is perhaps a little bit less atrocious than it was last year with Diane Lane. If your gonna use a news anchor, why the hell wouldn't you get Mike Bush to do it?! The man was the sports director for like 15 years! There are so many sports personalities in Saint Louis who could do a much better job, its hard to believe this is what they give us. Where's John Maracek? Mike Claiborne? Bob Ramsey? Malcom Briggs? you mean to tell us that Rene Knott and Randy Jackson are the best possible options to host a Cardinals pre-game show?! Really?! I can't wait until this contract is over. I'd really like to see the games back on 11 or maybe channel 2. Channel 2 would at least give a decent pre-game with Martin Kilcoyne...we just might not see too many Albert interviews.
The radio broadcast I can live with since I don't have to be subjected to it too often. I like Rooney better than Hagin. And though he screws up a lot, I've always enjoyed Mike Shannon.
"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Mar 17, 2008 4:06 AM EDT 0 recs
It's a tradition....
Horrible TV broadcasts and Channel 5. Jay Randolph was terrible back then, too. I remember when I was growing up, a friend of my father's would watch the games and get drunk, then call up Channel 5 to raise hell about Randolph with a drunken tirade.
by DiscoJer on
Mar 17, 2008 6:01 AM EDT
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"Indeed, Indeed"...I think Jay Randolph annoys anyone with
Half a brain. There is NOTHING nostalgic about his return. Your father's drunk friend was only one of many calling to complain about him. I can remember, as a kid, my father calling to complain about him too. TV sound was banned during the games and we'd put on Shannon and Buck....O...the good ole' days.
mattnj
by mattnj on
Mar 17, 2008 10:01 AM EDT
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I love Ricky Horton!
He is one of my favorite TV personalities!
"when we say strength we mean kettlebell,when we say kettlebell we mean strength"
by Calhoun on
Mar 17, 2008 11:22 AM EDT
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I am...
strongly opposed to Rick Horton. All you need to know about his baseball knowledge is that he, a pitcher, was moved to right field to allow Oquendo to pitch. That's all anyone needs to know about Rick Horton and Baseball.
by mynameistyler on
Mar 17, 2008 2:13 PM EDT
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That is a
ridiculous statement. How does baseball knowledge and being pulled from a game correlate? How many pitchers pitched in that game? So just because he was the last one before Oquendo makes him a goat?
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
by OKCardsfan on
Mar 17, 2008 6:50 PM EDT
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Throw my name in
I hate listening to Jay Randolph. I actually muted my TV yesterday. Just awful. I don't know if it was Randolph saying "Troy Glowes" or "Mark Tehera". Maybe it was the time Kennedy flipped it to Izturis for the final out of the inning and he said "And Kennedy flips it to Pujols for the final out." I was astounded. Forgive me if I'm wrong, but Pujols has never played short stop in his major league career, is not number 3, and is not 5'9", 190 LBS.
Thank god Mike Shannon came in for a few innings and grabbed the mic from him.
Channel 5's score row on the top of the screen is horrid too. Was anyone else's cut off? I couldn't even read it, but I could see the Newschannel 5 logo! I also couldn't hear the interview with Lamping (with a huge stain on his shirt, wtf?) but I could here the fake loud guitar intro in and out of each commercial break.
If Channel 5 can't broadcast the game properly they should let CW11 take the rights to the weekend games again.
I''m a Jenius!
by gibbons on
Mar 17, 2008 1:12 PM EDT
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i too an no randolph fan
the man is a horrible butcher with names, and he doesn't say anything interesting. he'll tell you all the most generic information, like what round the player was taken or from what college....over and over and over. he doesn't seem to be very familiar with the team.
Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle."
by erik on
Mar 17, 2008 1:58 PM EDT
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"Tehera"
That really drove me up a wall. I'd give damn near anything to be in his position, making money to watch and call a ballgame. The least he could do is show the respect for the game and its players to learn their names properly.
by mynameistyler on
Mar 17, 2008 2:14 PM EDT
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Careful
You can't get too picky with announcers and names. I distinctly remember watching a Cards-Dodgers game in 2005 and getting annoyed with Vin Scully (I know!) repeatedly saying "Grass-alonic" when mentioning our second basemen.
Don't get me wrong, I love Scully. I'm just saying, older baseball announcers aren't necessarily known for their name pronunciation abilities. See Shannon: "Brad Ahs-Mas".
That said, Jay Randolph's terrible.
QED
by arch support on
Mar 17, 2008 2:45 PM EDT
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Scully used to
pronounce Eli Marrero's name "El-lee", which just rankled me to no end, for some reason. Randolph was with the Marlins before he returned to St. Louis, and was horrid then, as well. I get tired of Horton's perpetual Rebecca of Sunnybrook Farm personality, but if given the choice, I'd take him over Hrabosky any day of the week.
And I know I'll be attacked here, but I don't care; I'm not a fan of Shannon, and I never have been. Most of the time, you don't even know what inning it is, what the count is, and sometimes who the batter is.
"The moment we want to believe something, we suddenly see all the arguments for it, and become blind to the arguments against it."
by cardsrul on
Mar 17, 2008 3:21 PM EDT
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Shannon
I find the moon man's eccentricities endearing, but I will admit that, at times, it is impossible to know what the hell is happening in the game.
Typical Shannon call with the Cards on defense:
"Swing! and a shot to the left side (pause). Hehhehhehhehhehhehheh....I tell you what, this Cardinal team...hehhehhehhehheh."
Meanwhile, you have no idea what the heck is going on. Turns out Rolen made a diving play and through out the runner....but you'll never know it from Shannon.
by arch support on
Mar 17, 2008 4:40 PM EDT
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Listen to Scully
say Juan Inncarnasione. Don't remember exactly what he says but it is different from anybody else.
by ridgesee on
Mar 17, 2008 10:00 PM EDT
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Yes
I distinctly remember Vin's "Grass-alonic." My wife and I would mimic the mispronunciation every time Grud came to the plate that year. Vin knows so much about baseball that it comes across as charming.
by bobeans on
Mar 17, 2008 3:53 PM EDT
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Misnomers
I think the stat sheets they give the commentators also has a phonetic chart on it. I agree, if you're lucky enough to get the job - then do it.
I''m a Jenius!
by gibbons on
Mar 17, 2008 8:17 PM EDT
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another complaint with Randolph
He sounds like the guy from the Liberty Medical commercial. "I check my blood sugar and I check it OFFEN."
I''m a Jenius!
by gibbons on
Mar 17, 2008 8:20 PM EDT
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KMOX
I miss the Birds on 1120. After moving from the Metro area in '93, I was still able to listen to games at night on KMOX. There is a hill between Denver and Boulder, CO., where I was able to sit and hear the games perfectly. I could drive from Denver to my folks house in S.Dakota and listen to an entire game.
The Internet has obviously changed things, and I think we are going to get XM Radio for baseball and the MLB package for the TV coverage, so I guess the impact won't be as great.
by DenverCardsFan on Mar 17, 2008 8:09 AM EDT 0 recs
I miss KMOX...
also. They had much better people on the call-in shows. I like Shannon and Rooney on play-by-play and pre-post game shows, but the others on KRTS, particularly Hadley, I could do without. I'll watch channel 5 only when there's no alternative. I usually go outside and listen to the radio on Sundays.
[Homer shows Bart "Wonderbat".]
Bart: Wow. How many home runs you gonna hit with that thing?
Homer: Let's see... We play thirty games. Ten at-bats a game. Mm...three thousand.
by boog on
Mar 17, 2008 8:38 AM EDT
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Hadley...
I can't even listen to that guy. Perhaps the absolute worst sports personality saint louis has to offer.
"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak
by The Ghost of Todd Burns on
Mar 17, 2008 9:20 AM EDT
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Hadley makes my head explode!
I'm not real fond of Mr. Rooney either. He sounds like he's yelling at me sometimes. You always know which player is in Mr. LaRussa's doghouse by the comments that start coming from all of them. Sometimes I find it easier to watch the games on WGN (Cubs/White Sox) or ESPN because I have no emotionial investment in those teams.
I have complained in the past because the Cardinals are such a stoic bunch, and my desire to see a player or two with the attitude of "pinch me, I can't believe I get to play baseball for a living" Well, Lastings Milledge hit his first home run in a game the other day, and on his way back to the dugout, all smiles, he high fived some of the fans. I personally love to see a player let the joy out like that-I'm sure that's the reason the Mets had to trade him, or felt they had to. I predict they are going to miss him big time-heck, they already are with Alou going down-and that he is going to extremely popular with the Nationals fans.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Mar 17, 2008 9:44 AM EDT
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High-Fiving
...Fans is a bit too far. There is a fine line between having fun and showing up the other team. Smiling and being excited is one thing, but I think that running around high-fiving fans is crossing that line.
"Your Holiness, I'm Joseph Medwick. I, too, used to be a Cardinal."-Joe Medwick, to Pope Pius XII.
by redbirdnation8206 on
Mar 17, 2008 10:31 AM EDT
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Maybe. But I do think in the spring, when the fans are the serious ones
Who spend a lot of money to follow the team they love, it's a fun thing to do. I don't expect he'll be doing it during the regular season. Honestly, if I were a Nats fan and witnessed that in ST, I would be ecstatic to see that joy. That's just me, I guess.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
by jillsinmo on
Mar 17, 2008 3:53 PM EDT
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and I never actually understood why it was that bad when he did it in NYC last year, either. No different than a curtain call, imho.
play skip at second base
by SleepyCA on
Mar 17, 2008 4:01 PM EDT
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I'm with you
We want the players to act like human beings and interact with the fans, and then when someone does, he gets blasted. I never saw it as a showing up of anyone, just that he was sharing the moment with the fans.
C70 at the Bat
by Cardinal70 on
Mar 17, 2008 5:07 PM EDT
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If you get the MLB
package for TV, You won't need XM for radio as it includes it..unless you won't Xm for other purposes
by ridgesee on
Mar 17, 2008 9:25 AM EDT
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mlb extra innings
you'll want to check with your provider, but Charter Communications in the Metro East area right now has a special where you can get it for $159 for the season if you order before the end of March.
i would like to get it, but I already have FSN mid west, so the wife wouldn't be too happy with 60 more games a week
by mwinf12 on
Mar 17, 2008 12:33 PM EDT
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The Voice of Saint Louis
Just not right w/o Cardinal games.
by random on
Mar 17, 2008 10:09 PM EDT
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If Jay Randolph is the best that KSDK
can possibly offer, I am embarrassed for them. This was an unimaginative good ole boy network type hire. At least they haven't hired his son as yet. As far as KTRS goes, could they possibly squeeze one more commercial in the broadcast?
Nuthin'....I got nuthin'over here.
by Handsome Jimmy on Mar 17, 2008 8:57 AM EDT 0 recs
Oh, the media...
I enjoy Shannon and Rooney on the radio... but I actually think that Rick Horton and Rooney sound great together when Shannon leaves the booth to do some commentary with Jay Randolph.
Jay Randolph... now that's another story. I understand that Randolph offers a bit of nostalgia to some of the older generations, but he's almost unbearable for me to watch.
Horton's a little goofy for my taste but I can deal with him. Does a pretty decent job in my opinion.
My favorite personality that covers the Cards is Dan on FSN.
by AndyB83 on Mar 17, 2008 9:01 AM EDT 1 recs
I grew up listening to Jay Randolph in the 70's
and I can tell you there is nothing nostalgic about hearing him call a game...he was awful back then, and to tell you the truth I was astonished that Randolph is who channel 5 picked when the games went back there.
by tbell61 on
Mar 17, 2008 9:26 AM EDT
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Shannon and Rooney
are OK on radio, but I am having some trouble with Rooney,s home run call. "Its a gonner" I don't know, it just sounds childish or amateurish or something... If just one time. I could hear Harry Carey say, "It might be..It could be...It is!..a homeee run. Or.. here's the stretch...the pitch...THERE SHE GOES!
by ridgesee on
Mar 17, 2008 9:36 AM EDT
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Nothing better then Shannons home run calls!
Get up baby! get up get up! home run!
"when we say strength we mean kettlebell,when we say kettlebell we mean strength"
by Calhoun on
Mar 17, 2008 11:26 AM EDT
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Shannon
+1. Gotta love Shannon. Can't stand to hear Randolph's voice though.
....my quick smells like french toast...
by mstreeter06 on
Mar 17, 2008 1:04 PM EDT
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McLaughlin
Can't say I share your love of Dan McLaughlin.
He seems knowledgable enough, but something about his voice irritates me. When he's announcing an exciting point in the game, his voice naturally gets more intense. But it's an angry sort of intense, like he's yelling at kids who stepped on his lawn or something. It bothers me.
Also, I know everyone can't be Jack Buck, but when something dramatic happens, Dan's calls disappoint me. I'm reminded of a come from behind win, maybe in 2005, when Jim Edmonds won the game with a walk off double. The crowd goes crazy. Dan's call: "The Cards (pause) win it! Edmonds (pause) does it!"
Pretty weak. I like McLaughlin enough, but I don't think I'll ever not wish for more from his calls.
by arch support on
Mar 17, 2008 2:52 PM EDT
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I'm a fan
of Dan McLaughlin, actually. I think he's still developing his style, though. I like when he lets loose, which is becoming more and more often as the years go by.
by mynameistyler on
Mar 17, 2008 2:54 PM EDT
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I remember that game
Giants were up 4-0 going into the bottom of the 9th and the Cards scored 5 runs to win it. I believe it was Matheny's first game back in St. Louis. Great moment. I don't recall the pauses, but it was still a pretty mediocre call...
"A hot dog at the ball game beats roast beef at the Ritz."- Humphrey Bogart
by iron duke75 on
Mar 17, 2008 5:26 PM EDT
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No Cable or Satellite
So I have to rely on radio (usually have gameday on the computer also). I'm so used to Mike Shannon that this mistakes, eccentricities, etc. don't even phase me anymore.
My favorite Mike Shannon call was from the 80's when Jack the Ripper was with the team. The Cards were down, the bases were loaded and Clark was coming to the plate. Mike mentions something about how many career grand slams Jack has had in his career so far (I can't remember the #, it was 20 years ago). Of course Jack gets good wood on the next pitch and Mike gets wound up. "THERE'S A LONG ONE TO LEFT"!!! I about drive my '64 Rambler into the ditch I'm so excited. Except that Jack got a little under it and it was caught on the grass in front of the warning track. My favorite Mike Shannon call. ***sigh***
"There is one word in America that says it all, and that one word is, 'You never know.'" Joaquin Andujar
by Big Mike on Mar 17, 2008 9:14 AM EDT 0 recs
Don't get me started
First - let me say that I like Rooney and Shannon. Rooney calls a good game, and Shannon is like your drunk uncle.
BUT - the rest of KTRS is really not good. Claiborne is the best of a bad lot.
Hadley is a homer who does nothing to serve the StL sports community with weak interviews and average insight. His Sunday morning broadcasts last year were comical; no one would call in so he would argue with himself and then get so worked up you could hear the slobber slopping around in his mouth.
I can't watch the games on KSDK. It's like I'm watching my old college TV channel.
"Dude, we're running out of stadium" - said on the way to our seats in Section 428.
by bukowski on Mar 17, 2008 9:32 AM EDT 0 recs
Frank Cusumano
Who is this little pip squeak and why am I subjected to his idiocy?
by mynameistyler on Mar 17, 2008 9:44 AM EDT 0 recs
I know I am stupid for asking,
but why are all my posts white and everyone else's yellow. Make me feel like I'm wearing a black tuxedo with brown shoes.
by ridgesee on Mar 17, 2008 9:44 AM EDT 0 recs
Because...
All new posts are in yellow, if you refresh the page, everything will be white... until a new post comes up.
by mynameistyler on
Mar 17, 2008 9:45 AM EDT
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The only
thing that bothers me is when Rooney says "SWING!" It always sounds like it is leaving the park only to have it caught by the SS or something. Always bugged me. Mike Shannon is awesome because you don't know what will come out of his mouth. Keeps you engaged. As far as the TV side is concerned, they are all too nice. Though last season, they were more critical so maybe it has improved.
"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop
by OKCardsfan on Mar 17, 2008 9:50 AM EDT 0 recs
broadcasts
i, like most others, enjoy shannon and rooney
i can deal with dan, al, and horton
but when it comes to randolph, he is hard to listen to
i will miss joe buck, just as we miss his dad
i still feel, though, that when you hear some of these other teams announcers, you really see how good we have it
Pujols is the greatest Cardinal in my lifetime.
by bigcardsfan5 on Mar 17, 2008 9:50 AM EDT 1 recs
I agree with bigcardsfan5 in that the tv announcers outside of st. louis are usually pretty miserable. I can't stop my ears from bleeding when I have to listen to Jim Deshaies and the Houston tv crew where I live now. That's better than listening to Bob Carpenter when I was in DC though. That being said, if you would rather watch Joe Morgan on Espn than the local group you have a problem. I wish Jack was back or that I could listen to Shannon or Hrabosky more often.
by Mcgeesabeast on Mar 17, 2008 10:08 AM EDT 0 recs
Agreed on Joe Morgan
I have an ongoing argument with a friend who absolutely loves him. I can't stand him -- there's only so many times I can take hearing "when I used to play . . . " before I begin grinding my teeth.
by Ray Lankford on
Mar 17, 2008 10:48 AM EDT
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What on earth can anyone (aside from his immediate family) find
to love about Morgan? That astounds me. It's incomprehensible in the same way that quantum mechanics or the massiveness of the universe is incomprehensible to me. Maybe he likes the fact that Joe never, ever, changes his mind or admits he was ever wrong about anything?
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Mar 17, 2008 10:54 AM EDT
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I remember one time...
I almost died hearing Joe Morgan talk about closers and how any pitcher could be a closer..............I was like WHAT??????
"when we say strength we mean kettlebell,when we say kettlebell we mean strength"
by Calhoun on
Mar 17, 2008 11:29 AM EDT
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www.firejoemorgan.com
I'm assuming most of you have been here, but for those of you who haven't, it has some amusing stuff.
by bgh on
Mar 17, 2008 1:35 PM EDT
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Typical Morgan Speel
Joe: This teams SS is the best in Baseball
John: but Joe he has the worst AVG of all MLB SS
Joe: Well I'm just saying... he is really good with the glove
John,: But Joe he has the most errors of all SS
Joe: Well I'm just saying... He has been helping his team win since the break
John: But Joe the team hasn't won since the break
Joe Well I'm just saying... if you don't look at the stats you can see he is real good
John, but he just fell on his head
Joe, well I'm just sayin............
by FMF1 on
Mar 17, 2008 9:21 PM EDT
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Radio Broadcast
Im kinda a newer Cardinal fan. I started by listening to Ronney and Shannon do the radio broadcasts back in 2006. It was just to kill time at work. (it was durring thier first 7 game losing streak...) But I got hooked. Last year I more than likely listened to 120 games on the 550.
Anyway. Besides the game itself I can not stand to listen to anything else on the radio. I'll check maybe 20 games or so on the TV. I like the FSN broadcasts. The channel 5 ones annoy me. And the ESPN broadcasts just angery me.
by Evilfrog on Mar 17, 2008 10:18 AM EDT 0 recs
off topic
but has there been any mention of the new t-shirt design lately? I'm a somewhat infrequent visitor, but I remember lboros saying something a few weeks back. I only ask because I have some free time at work this week and i might try and mess around with Adobe Illustrator to see if I can come up with anything.
by mattyp on Mar 17, 2008 10:29 AM EDT 0 recs
The Old Days
I don't live in the radio zone anymore (which was just about anywhere in mainland North America if you happened to be in the right spot) but I rue the loss of that massive coverage as it brings back a lot of good memories, from Dan Kelly and the Blues to everything Cardinals and especially that trivia show on Sunday nights with Dave Strauss? and some other dude who could stomp on all trivia any weird creature from across the land had to offer up. I can imagine that absence of KMOX at least.
Since quite a few folk have referenced M. Shannon, it kicked up an old memory: I was with a buddy driving on our way to Central America, except his passport had been stolen and we had to obtain an emergency version in the Big Easy.
Summer of 95, hauling through the Mississippi pine forests at night, I picked up Voice of the Cardinals in the middle of a sleeper, but just catching those voices Buck and Shannon threw the hairs up on my arms. It was one of those hot, slow games, where things get radio dead and Shannon's mind wandered into the 'anything to talk about bin.'
He pulled out a story, that to the best of my memory went something like this:
"You know Jack, we got a letter from Elmer XXXX in XXX Illinois. Elmer's a big fan, has been his whole life. Well Elmer has these lucky marbles - had him his whole life. He really wants the Cards to do it this year, so you know what he did Jack, he sent us his lucky marbles to win this season."
Pause, sound of insects hitting ballpark lights and the echoed holler of a beer-man.
"That's love. And you know what love is - love is self -sacrifice."
So that's the kinda thing you don't get in Mississippi anymore in the middle of the night when you're driving through the dark and you're brain has gone blank and you'd give just about anything to get some action - even on a radio. Even though I don't live there anymore, I'm pretty sure about that.
Other mysteries remain. TL
by BKKCard on Mar 17, 2008 10:50 AM EDT 1 recs
Lineup
Cardinals
1. Colby Rasmus, CF
2. Cesar Izturis, SS
3. Albert Pujols, 1B
4. Troy Glaus, 3B
5. Rick Ankiel, RF
6. Ryan Ludwick, LF
7. Jason LaRue, C
8. Anthony Reyes, RHP
9. Brendan Ryan, 2B
Go get 'em, Iron Bill. Here's to Cesar getting a couple more errors and zero hits!
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on Mar 17, 2008 11:09 AM EDT 0 recs
+1
I might actually start to wish an injury on a player for the first time if this Izturus nonsense doesn't come to an abrupt end!!! He is simply not a major leaguer...let alone starter! Fortunately we aren't at risk of losing anyone if he makes the team, and we can still cut him at anytime.
He's gone by June...write it down!
Thanks for the highlight moments 15 and 27!!!
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Mar 17, 2008 11:14 AM EDT
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Injury
In a satirical way, my original post had a line about Izturis: "And Cesar, today seems as good as any for you to get that hamstring pull you've been working on all spring. You've earned it."
But some people aren't big fans of snark and I thought better of it.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on
Mar 17, 2008 11:19 AM EDT
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Personally, I like snarky comments.
I don't wish injuries on any player though. Not even players I don't like. Not even the evil Mets or the Cubs. It's just not very nice.
She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.
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Mar 17, 2008 6:31 PM EDT
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cesar
maybe we should just hope to find his brutus
Pujols is the greatest Cardinal in my lifetime.
by bigcardsfan5 on
Mar 17, 2008 6:41 PM EDT
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I'm looking for Cesar to get his
shit together. He's going to start, no matter what, so we may as well pray he figures it out. I gotta say this, b/c it may be the last time for a while, I sure like the look of a lineup w/ Rasmus' name penciled in next to the number 1. :)
by houstoncardinal on
Mar 17, 2008 11:52 AM EDT
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I'll take a shitty month of April from Izturis
if it means he's NOT back on top in June.
Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS
by Hardcore Legend on
Mar 17, 2008 11:53 AM EDT
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And why oh why does he need to back second?
Ryan should be second and Itzsuckis should be batting seventh or ninth
by OCCardsFan on
Mar 17, 2008 12:17 PM EDT
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Wow!
0 for 2, w/ a K and an error. Another stellar game for Cesar! Let's look on the bright side -- he can't get any worse.
by houstoncardinal on
Mar 17, 2008 3:58 PM EDT
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well, yeah... he could get worse
he could make the team out of ST and pull that crap on regularly when it counts! in my opinion, that would make him worse than he is now.
When cheese gets its picture taken, what does it say?
by RosevilleRedbird on
Mar 17, 2008 4:00 PM EDT
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Or
He could pull a Cintron and run into someone that actually contributes to the team, knocking them out.
C70 at the Bat
by Cardinal70 on
Mar 17, 2008 5:08 PM EDT
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Bob Carpenter
I miss him on the TV. He called a good game and would have been better had they never not stuck him with such horrible color guys (Horton, Ozzie, Al are all awful).
To be honest, most color guys, with the exception of Orel Hershiser and Bob Brenley are beyond bad, adding nothing to the game.
I generally long for the days when you can mute just announcers and still watch the game on TV.
by JMedwick on Mar 17, 2008 11:47 AM EDT 0 recs


