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Welcome to the new Viva El Birdos and SB Nation

[Wow ---- 5:30 a.m. CDT and we already have 15 comments. That's good ---- feedback is key. We are the 3rd site to migrate over, and there are still 27 MLB sites to go, and then ~150 sites in the other sports, so the development team needs to hear your opinions and experiences regarding the new site and the migration. So please read the intro post by Trei, cruise around the new site, and post your opinions in the comments thread. If you find bugs or other problems, report them! We'll have a regular post in the main column tomorrow; if you want to put up a diary (no, I mean "Fan Post"], go for it. You can also e-mail me offline ---- vivaelbirdos AT yahoo DOT com. ---- LB]

Hello VEBbers,

Today is the big day. We've switched your community over to the new SB Nation sports blog platform. My name is Trei and I'm one of the guys who helped build this new home for y'all. I'm here to help you get adjusted and give you a quick tour of what is new and what has changed. Also, if you have questions or trouble with the new system, I'll be around to answer them and point you in the right direction.

Before we get started, I want to let you know that you're one of the first blogs in the SB Nation family to make this transition. We still consider this a beta platform so don't be surprised if you find a few bugs or if everything isn't exactly right yet. In fact, we hope you'll take the time to report any problems you encounter. All you need to do is email bugreport@sbnation.com.

Lets get started...

What Has Changed

SB Nation network accounts (the big change)

Many people across all of our blogs told us they wanted one account that they could use on any SB Nation blog. We agreed and have created one SB Nation network account so that you only have to login once to gain access to many blogs. We want to make it as easy as possible for you to participate on all of your blogs. However, we didn't want to encourage everyone to start visiting rival team blogs and creating flame wars. To maintain the friendly confines of your communities we ask that you explicitly join each blog you want to actively participate on. It's an easy 2-click process, but it means accepting the different community guidelines that each blog manger sets out. Just as you join each blog individually, you can be banned on each blog individually.

To make this work, we're requiring that everyone create a new SB Nation network account. Don't worry - you won't lose all of your old comments and diaries. We have created a simple process for you to claim your old blog account. In most cases you should be able to keep your old username, but a few of you may have to choose something new. The reason is that every other community in SB Nation will be going through this same transition and some of them have the same username that you do. We tried to be as fair as possible about deciding who gets to keep which name using a formula that takes into account length of membership, amount of activity and how recently you've been active. The important thing is that whatever name you have will be retroactively put on all of your old comments and diaries. Some of you already have multiple accounts on different SB Nation blogs; we've got you covered too because you can claim more than one old blog account.

Alright, now that I've explained all that - let's get you started:

Click Here to claim your old blog accounts and create a new SB Nation network account.

FanPosts (the section formerly known as Diaries)

First we changed their name. Why? Because we took this major upgrade as an opportunity to leave behind some vocabulary we inherited that never made much sense for a sports blog. SB Nation is the network of, by and for *fans* and these are the blog *posts* we make. So we called them FanPosts. Next time you're at the bar and you're telling someone to go check out your opinion about the latest trade, you don't have to suggest they read your diaries.

But the changes go deeper than the new name. FanPosts are displayed differently on the homepage - they now include your avatar so you get more credit for the time you invest in writing great posts. We also built a new editor that has a WYSIWYG view for easy formatting and auto-saving of drafts so you don't have to worry about losing your work when you write on the web. And in addition to adding basic tags, you can now associate teams, players and games with our special auto-complete tools. These will put your FanPosts on our new team, player and game pages - across the entire network.

The new system does not work like the old diary editor. For example, if you're writing in HTML mode we do not auto-detect paragraphs from line breaks. Look for the blinking help button on the right side of the FanPost editor for quick tips or take a look at our full guide to writing FanPosts on the new platform.

IMPORTANT - if you write your posts in Microsoft Word or some other off-line editor, you will get the most reliable behavior if you cut & paste your post into the HTML view of the FanPost editor. And if you do that, remember that you have to put the <p></p> tags around each paragraph you want so your text doesn't run together.

What Is New

Schedule, Scores, Stats and Roster

Viva El Birdos now has all the basic information about the Cardinals and every other team in the MLB. During games you'll see a regularly updated line score, as the season progresses we'll track team stat totals and leaders. This is just our first step so look for us to publish more detailed and archival stats in the future. The best part about all this sports data is that we've integrated it directly into the blog so now we special pages that will aggregate all the blog posts written about games, players and teams.

Auto-refreshing Comments

You no longer need to refresh the page to see new comments. If you're logged in, new comments will automatically appear on the page every few seconds. When you post a comment, the page will not refresh either. If you want to quickly cycle through all the new comments, you can press the 'c' key on your keyboard. If you're cycling through the comments you can just press the 'r' key to reply. And there are other helpful keyboard shortcuts like that listed at the top of each comments section.

Recommending Comments

Now you can reward those folks who take the time to look up stats and make smart arguments in the comments. Next to each comment there is an 'actions' link that you can click to find the recommend and flag options.

Flagging Comments

To help the moderators on a site, we've built-in tools that let you flag comments that are spam, trolling or just plain inappropriate. No one else can see those flaggings, but the moderators can.

FanShots

Many members of the community just want to post that one link, video, photo or quote and you don't need to write a full FanPost. We've got you covered and we made these quick hits really easy. Now you have a tool that is designed for sharing YouTube videos, Flickr or PhotoBucket photos, quotes from articles, portions of chat transcripts, top 5 lists and simple links. If it's a video or image we'll put a thumbnail on the homepage when you post it.

For those of you who are experienced internet hunter and gatherers of Cardinals material, install the bookmarklet to share FanShots with the community from wherever on the web you find that killer quote or photo.

Archives

It's much easier to go find that post about a certain deadline trade or a playoff game. Browse by year and month.

Avatars

When you upload an image as your avatar we'll use it on your profile, your FanPosts and all your comments.

Network profiles

Now that we have unified SB Nation network accounts, your profile will be the central hub for all of your activity on any blogs you're a member of.

Network bar

The bar up at the top will stay with you on all SB Nation blogs. It's a quick way to login and logout. When you're logged in, you'll see your avatar and screen name. Click that and you'll find your profile. There is a button next to that for jumping to your dashboard with links for editing your settings, profile, account and any FanPosts or FanShots you've published. Once we add more blogs to the new SB Nation network, the My Blogs menu will be a handy way of navigating between the blogs you're a member of.

There are plenty more small changes and additions we've made so take a careful look around and explore this new system.

We appreciate your patience as we jump into this beta together and know you'll help us get this new platform ready for all the other SB Nation blogs.

And in case you missed it, you'll want to start with this:

Click Here to claim your old blog accounts and create a new SB Nation network account.

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Comments

Display:

sleek.

testing ... testing ... 123!

wow. this will take a little getting used to, but all in all i like the new sleeker look!

my web log

by matty fred on Mar 15, 2008 3:05 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well, this is new

The straight forward approach of the old site was nice fimiliar but I guess I can get used to this.

My cellphone will NEVER be able to handle the new format. :D

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 3:08 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmm

It won't seem to let me put a url in my signature anymore like on the old site.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 3:18 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agree!

It'll take awhile to get through all the new features, but that's a good thing!

by Roebird on Mar 15, 2008 1:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Interesting look

A couple first impressions:
1. I find the default avatar (the guy with the mouth agape with a backwards baseball cap) really, really annoying. Just reminds me too much of the drunk, loudmouth sports jerk stereotype that I can't stand.

2. Not sure I like the massive maroon bars down the side. Too reminiscent of 1980's Phillies colors for me.

3. The Fanpost enhancements seem to be a huge improvement over the old diary system, although I suppose it will take a while to see how it all plays out.

by bailorg on Mar 15, 2008 3:22 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

colors

completely agree. i very much miss the old, bright-cardinal-red-everywhere color scheme...

by dpmay on Mar 15, 2008 5:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey

Love what you've done to the place!! Are the Cold Frosty Buds still in the same spot in the fridge? :)

by KYCards on Mar 15, 2008 3:46 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

+1

to SB Nation! Yay!

Rasmus or bust.

by Zoop on Mar 15, 2008 3:50 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hmmmm....

Is there anyway to make it use more of the screen? I've got a widescreen monitor (1440x900) and basically half the screen is being wasted. The old VB would expand automatically to the width.

by DiscoJer on Mar 15, 2008 4:11 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Even worse on a 30" dell

Just a narrow little strip down the middle

by DriverZn on Mar 15, 2008 5:31 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's exactly why...

I didn't get a bigger one. Monitor technology has far surpassed computer and internet technology. In fact, this seems to be a depressing thread - more and more fixed (tiny) size sites, instead of variable ones.

by DiscoJer on Mar 15, 2008 6:29 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Doh

trend, not thread. Still no editing of comments, I see. (I clicked on "actions" only to have that button disappear)

by DiscoJer on Mar 15, 2008 6:30 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I need the space for work

Its just funny to use some websites on it. At least it will be a good fit for my phone.

by DriverZn on Mar 15, 2008 4:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yea...

I think i'm gonna miss the old VEB. This is gonna take some getting used to. I really liked how the old VEB looked like a true fan site this is more...yuck I kinda feel dirty

"Ding-dong the wicked witch is dead!" - Wayne Hagin after the cardinals snapped a losing streak

by The Ghost of Todd Burns on Mar 15, 2008 4:56 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Change = hard

...but I'll be patient and try to appreciate all the new features.

I agree about the vertical gray bars on the sides, however...that's a LOT of wasted real estate. Any chance of tweaking that?

There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

by Mr Clean on Mar 15, 2008 5:18 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

programming team is listening

there may be a slight layout tweak forthcoming. still monitoring feedback across the network.

by lboros on Mar 15, 2008 10:03 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wow, already done

looks good, but yes any change will take some adjusting too.

by FunkeeC on Mar 15, 2008 5:39 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yeah

I'd much rather have a bigger main "center" area for the posts and shrink at least the right sidebar but whatever probably going to have to get used to it...

With no evidence to the contrary, Colby Rasmus is clutch

by joker24 on Mar 15, 2008 7:31 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Spiffy

Let's get some new T Shirts to celebrate the new VEB!

by KY BirdsonBat on Mar 15, 2008 7:37 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Larry

Did you get my email about this?

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 12:37 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Need to re-focus where my eys usually go

but am really excited about some of the new features. Also, it may be just me but the color palette looks a bit off...a bit dark.

"Slide DiMaggio, slide!" "Hey, my name isn't DiMaggio, my name is mm..mmmm...mmm....mud."

by cmat on Mar 15, 2008 8:23 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well....

....name change by addition, otherwise painless so far.

If we can't be good, can we at least be lucky?

by cardschinmusic on Mar 15, 2008 8:36 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

this is pretty good

I got a taste of this on "Athletics Nation", so it's good to see it here...I belong to a number of other blogs on SB nation, and I'm not understanding how to integrate them on my dashboard...I'll do some more experimenting...so far so good. though

by tbell61 on Mar 15, 2008 8:42 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

claiming other blog accounts

Go to your profile -> Edit Account -> Claim an old blog account

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by clockwerks on Mar 15, 2008 8:45 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Where are

all the good links to the other sites that used to sit on the right sidebar. Please bring 'em back. Now I don't know how to get to anywhere from here. Otherwise, site looks good.

by ridgesee on Mar 15, 2008 8:49 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

for links to other SB Nation blogs

go to the very top of the screen, where it says "my blogs," and click on that --- it'll give you access to all the other SBN sites.

my own blogroll (with links to other cardinal blogs, Hardball Times, Baseball Primer, etc etc) has moved from the right sidebar to the left.

by lboros on Mar 15, 2008 9:23 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

we'll also be adding a full sbnation blogroll at the bottom of the home page

the my blogs menu will only display sb nation blogs that you've joined

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by clockwerks on Mar 15, 2008 9:28 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I Love The New Features

Will take a few to get used to, but the site IMHO needed an upgrade on a number of different levels to make it as functional as is possible in their Web 2.0 world. Also like I'll be able eventually to work with all three of the SB Nations sites through one log-in/setting screen. I'll also be very interested to see how the schedule, roster, stats, and news sections work. I mean if you want to keep me here and get more page views this is a sure fire way to do this.

About the only downside I see as a few others have mentioned, is I'd like to be able to expand the width of the page. But I guess you can't have everything.

by tommyguniii on Mar 15, 2008 9:16 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm just a simple caveman

this world frightens and confuses me...

seriously, much better. now i just gotta play around with it for a while to get used to it.

Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle."

by erik on Mar 15, 2008 9:19 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Am I missing something?

I liked having the links for all the other MLB teams blogs on the right on the old site. Is that gone or am I just not finding them?

by Pujols for MVP on Mar 15, 2008 9:19 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Newness

It definitely will take a bit of getting used to, but it looks kinda spiffy. As long as we are talking Cardinals, though, it doesn't matter the bells and whistles!

C70 at the Bat

by Cardinal70 on Mar 15, 2008 9:20 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I like it.

As long as the quality of the comments stays the same. 'Cause, you know--it was the best Cards site anywhere.

by Archaeopteryx on Mar 15, 2008 9:22 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My username is gone!

Some dude from :blech: "Windy City Gridiron" stole it.

Bastards.

by silent_bob on Mar 15, 2008 9:24 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you can still claim your old diaries and comments

just go here: http://www.sbnation.com/account/migrate_accounts
choose Viva El Birdos
put in your old username and password
click add to claim list, then continue

so even though you lost your username, you don't lose everything you did on VEB

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by clockwerks on Mar 15, 2008 9:27 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Does This Only Work For SB Nation

blogs that have been migrated? I can't seem to add And The Valley Shock to my account here. Keep getting an error message that says "We're unable to find that account. You may have provided the wrong username and password or that account may have already been claimed."

by tommyguniii on Mar 15, 2008 9:40 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

should work for all blogs

not just those that have been migrated

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by clockwerks on Mar 15, 2008 9:48 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm having trouble, too.

I kind of goofed and signed up for a new account with my old username and now I get the same error message as tommyguniii when I try to associate the old one. It's not a huge deal as I wasn't a frequent poster, but if anyone knows how to fix that let me know.

I like the new look of the site, though. Snazzy.

by nyredbirdgirl on Mar 15, 2008 12:20 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Testing Image Upload*

*Cause I like to try and break stuff

by tommyguniii on Mar 15, 2008 9:28 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Comment Question

So I only have the option to collapse or expand. I can have it on expand and then manual collapse each individual comment?

by tommyguniii on Mar 15, 2008 9:30 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow!!!

So if someones being really stupid and you dont wanna hear their crap you can just collapse their comment?

AWESOME!!!!!!

"when we say strength we mean kettlebell,when we say kettlebell we mean strength"

by Calhoun on Mar 15, 2008 12:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Like the changes,

especially the auto update on comments. Still need to pick an avatar. The additional information access looks good.

by vinniefromjersey on Mar 15, 2008 9:32 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Awesome site!

Longtime ready... first time poster! How's my avatar?

by Gandalf on Mar 15, 2008 9:40 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Awwww...

A man after my own heart.......(im a HUGE Lord of the Rings fan)

"when we say strength we mean kettlebell,when we say kettlebell we mean strength"

by Calhoun on Mar 15, 2008 12:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

nerd alert

kidding, i too am a lotr fan

Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle."

by erik on Mar 15, 2008 5:01 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Read my profile...

And you will see I am no nerd!
Lotr is one of the best book series EVER and the best movies EVER!!!
And I highly recommend Robert E. Howard`s Conan books they are amazing.

"when we say strength we mean kettlebell,when we say kettlebell we mean strength"

by Calhoun on Mar 15, 2008 5:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

site looks great

If the extra space in the sides is really bothering you, just reduce the browser window to match the site, then use all that extra space for multi-tasking. That's why you bought the big ol' wide-screen monitor, right? ;)

I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.

by _pistol_ on Mar 15, 2008 9:49 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

my wife

she's not a regular reader, but her comment: 'They should put the spring-training games on the schedule'

I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.

by _pistol_ on Mar 15, 2008 10:00 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Lookin' Good

I like the changes. Lots of cool stuff.

by mikeonthecards on Mar 15, 2008 9:53 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

When Did The St Louis PD.....

......make the decision to start quoting Larry in thier columns as a source. I am impressed MR. Borowsky

by Schnake on Mar 15, 2008 10:01 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I noticed that too

and I agree, Schnake...especially in light of Bob Costas' recent comments about bloggers (I 've seen this several places, but the latest is SB Nation's "Niners Nation" )

I though Costas was smarter that that...his comments are disappointing, to say the least.

by tbell61 on Mar 15, 2008 10:52 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

What did

Costas say?

I'm not a big fan of his, but I am curious what he said.

by Youneverknow on Mar 15, 2008 2:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I'm an idiot

You said where his comments are to be found. I'll go look.

by Youneverknow on Mar 15, 2008 2:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Blogs such as

Deadspin and The Big Lead have posts on Costas' remarks. He was quite dismissive, much like Herd(AKA Shrutebag) has been.

"The moment we want to believe something, we suddenly see all the arguments for it, and become blind to the arguments against it."

by cardsrul on Mar 15, 2008 2:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is Awesome!

It's like driving a sprots car compared to the old site. Great Job!

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Mar 15, 2008 10:19 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

love the pic

I have it up in my basement. Looks even smaller in avatar!!

"The good Lord was good to me. He gave me a strong body, a good right arm, and a weak mind." -Dizzy Dean

by vince eating tarp on Mar 15, 2008 10:53 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

OkCardsfan you took the words right out of my head

This is the Cadillac of Sports Blogs.

Very Nice...
Great Success!

"Why does he keep saying that?"

by Red Blazer on Mar 15, 2008 10:27 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I'm really just doing this to see if it works but I echo the comments about using more of the screen. Things seem small and cramped.

by easy on Mar 15, 2008 10:29 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The avatars are nice but...

The are so very very tiny.....

"Why does he keep saying that?"

by Red Blazer on Mar 15, 2008 10:29 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also...

Can we get a big fat logo to click on for future redbirds?

Or maybe you could assimilate them in some fashion.

Build the minors for this system with first inning as the homepage and a link to toggle between the big league and the prospect league blogs.

"Why does he keep saying that?"

by Red Blazer on Mar 15, 2008 10:34 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   2 recs

you should try

clicking *actions* / *Rec* which is just like a +1 but the site keeps track of them. it's like a hi-five that gets added on to great comments.

it's me, JP

by JP on Mar 15, 2008 12:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   2 recs

Looks good to me...

I see where I can now just "click" to get my (a-hem) italics "fix"... (grin)

"In this game, don't nobody know nuthin' about nuthin'." -- attributed to Lawrence Peter "Yogi" Berra

by The Ol Goaler on Mar 15, 2008 10:50 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looks good....

but i do miss the old site. Needs more red! I think it''ll be good but gonna take some getting used to.

by moochavelli on Mar 15, 2008 10:52 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes bring back the viva elbirdos red for the sides.

It makes me feel at home....

"Why does he keep saying that?"

by Red Blazer on Mar 15, 2008 12:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looks good to me too

Gotta get used to the key strokes...

"The only thing you know about pitching is that you can't hit it." Bob Gibson to Tim McCarver

by player2bnamedl8r on Mar 15, 2008 10:56 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like it.

It's new and we have to get used to it...but I like it.

by Harknights on Mar 15, 2008 11:01 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Just wondering...

what happened to all the advertisers?

by tbell61 on Mar 15, 2008 11:12 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

2 things after driving the sportscar

1. Cupholders - Or what is that actions button by the comments? I hit mine and it disappeared. I tried to look it up in the directions to no avail.

2. Storage - Or since I am not HTML savvy, I think it would be good to have a tutorial on how to upload images and videos. Also how to make your statements bold or italics or whatnot.

"It is easy to be brave from a safe distance." - Aesop

by OKCardsfan on Mar 15, 2008 11:29 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

try the help + style guide!

Head to your user dashboard or create a New FanPost. Click on the Help or flashing question mark link to open the guide. We've assembled it to help with some of the things you mentioned.

We may need to put together more information on FanShots and how they work. Make sure to install the bookmarklet at the top of the FanShots page and try clicking it as you surf around the web.

I'm the SB Nation visual designer. We're still tidying!

by sixfoot6 on Mar 15, 2008 12:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

were you clicking 'actions' on your own comment?

you can't rec or flag your own comment, so that may be why it's empty.

what happens when you click 'actions' on the comment of another member?

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by clockwerks on Mar 15, 2008 12:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yep, Me Like...

I will miss the old place, but the new bar's drinks will stay cold longer...

by glennrwordman on Mar 15, 2008 11:31 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This is awesome!

I love the new digs...but it will take some getting used to.

by indakind on Mar 15, 2008 11:46 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

new and different

Not to wild about the yellow back ground on the posts, but it looks to me like the changes well be good over all

"Textbooks are Soviet propaganda" - Rev. Jerry Falwell

by elirock83 on Mar 15, 2008 12:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

although i do like the...

...automatic updates, no more refresh

"Textbooks are Soviet propaganda" - Rev. Jerry Falwell

by elirock83 on Mar 15, 2008 12:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Viewing All Fan Posts...

I like the idea but not the function.

It would be easier if it showe the posts by headers not the entire post. You have to scroll tthrough to much print and after about 4 or 5 of these entire posts it gets tedious.

"Why does he keep saying that?"

by Red Blazer on Mar 15, 2008 12:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

you can set this preference

in your user settings.
every page has a link to Edit Settings. the Expand/Collapse comments is on the first settings screen.
is that what you mean? you can also set this per page, at the top of the comments.

it's me, JP

by JP on Mar 15, 2008 12:22 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

wait a second, maybe you're not talking about comments showing by headers. i just re-read, and maybe you're talking about the whole page of FanPosts (née Diaries). those can't be collapsed.

it's me, JP

by JP on Mar 15, 2008 12:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Yes I meant the whole page of fan posts...

It would be nice if they were listed by headers only and you could open the ones you want to read.

"Why does he keep saying that?"

by Red Blazer on Mar 15, 2008 2:16 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Again, since they are paying attention

to our responses, I'd like to see html being added back to the signatures.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 12:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

probably won't come back

HTML in sigs was being abused with images, etc and was getting crazy on some blogs. instead of making bloggers moderate that we just strip HTML, give you the option of an avatar and let you put a link on your profile.

I'll never say never about changes, but this one is unlikely.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by clockwerks on Mar 15, 2008 12:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On many forums

they limit it to a tag that only allows links, not full blown html. That could be something to look into.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 12:25 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's crap in my opinion

bring it back for those of us who didn't abuse them. i just had a link to my small blog & no dirty pics or anything. just a blog about the Cardinals. there's got to be a way to police that like Hardcore said.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Mar 16, 2008 3:49 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

gdm426, you've sold us on allowing links

The SB Nation dev team had a discussion about this, and after we fed Trei some bacon and gave it some thought, we're down with allowing links in sigs. You should be able to link a website, for sure.

Most of the sig problems have been with images and scripts anyway. Thanks for speaking up on this! look for the changes to be deployed later tonight.

I'm the SB Nation visual designer. We're still tidying!

by sixfoot6 on Mar 16, 2008 4:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Excellent support!

I don't use a URL in my sig, but I wanted to just chime in and say you guys are doing a terrific job of taking in the feedback and trying to accommodate all of the users. The migration went VERY smoothly (grats on that, too, btw), and kudos to all of you at SB Nation for working with the feedback to further improve the site.

It is appreciated.

There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

by Mr Clean on Mar 16, 2008 9:13 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks!

also, your sig made me laugh out loud :-)

I'm the SB Nation visual designer. We're still tidying!

by sixfoot6 on Mar 16, 2008 11:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

awesome

then my work here is done. thank you for changing you minds.

and thank you for listening to everyone and for all your hard work in making VEB a great place to come talk Cardinal baseball. i really do appreciate it.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Mar 17, 2008 12:47 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like it

I was very attached to our old format but I will get used to it. Overall its good and I absolutely LOVE not having to refresh the page....that would be a real pain sometimes...

by Calhoun on Mar 15, 2008 12:16 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

So let me get this straight

just because they updated the site, you guys think you can get away without a Saturday post?

The Mex is watching!

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 12:20 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Looks good

and don't worry, Hardcore, there'll be a Sunday post. I'm sure red baron's getting something together for today as well.

by chuckb on Mar 15, 2008 12:37 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

oops, I lied

this is today's main thread. Larry's just making sure everything gets transferred over OK. I've got the Sunday post tomorrow.

by chuckb on Mar 15, 2008 12:39 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know what we do to liars, don't you?

We chop them up into a fine powder, arrange them in a line and....well, use your imagination.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 12:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Gameday Link

For those wondering Link

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 12:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You know

it would be nice if you could just catch the right side of the page with your mouse and zip it on over to cover full page, but can't have everything I guess.

by ridgesee on Mar 15, 2008 12:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It'd be nice if on Gameday

I could click on Skippy's name and drag him down to the bench, replacing him with Ankiel and it would actually happen, but I guess we can't have everything.

I'm just yanking your chain.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 12:46 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You can do that actually...

I drag Miles' name in the lineup everyday.

NOT!

by Pujols for MVP on Mar 15, 2008 12:49 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Almost vomited in my mouth....

After reading your post......lol

"when we say strength we mean kettlebell,when we say kettlebell we mean strength"

by Calhoun on Mar 15, 2008 12:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

All the televised games work today

except the Cardinals one. This will be the 2nd time this spring that they took one away that they said would be televised.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 1:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On FSM or what?

I haven't seen a spring game on TV yet here in Springfield, Mo. But I noticed FSM picked up the Blues game versus Ottawa coming up. That should be a fun watching the Blues get creamed.....yawn.

by Pujols for MVP on Mar 15, 2008 1:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

On MLB.TV

Online

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 1:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It's up now

You have to edit the url to get it, thoght

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 1:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Awesome

I love how with just one click of the keyboard you can see the new posts this is great!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

"when we say strength we mean kettlebell,when we say kettlebell we mean strength"

by Calhoun on Mar 15, 2008 1:04 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

My old account...

...someone at Windy Cities Gridiron had my name. so I chose a new name like the thing told me to do. It never once gave me an opportunity to claim my old account at VEB. D.GOOCH

by GOOCH24 on Mar 15, 2008 1:06 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

New site

Layout looks much better, however, the failure of the site to adjust to monitor size is a bit dis concerning.

The right side banner is a little wide for my taste and squeezes the main content. What's with the crimson and grey? Overall dig the new layout.

Change, its something to get used to..

by Future Birds-on-Bat on Mar 15, 2008 1:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Can I make a comment without a subject

by azruavatar on Mar 15, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Whoa......

Never thought in all my life that anyone from VEB would quote Bill & Ted omg...........lol

"when we say strength we mean kettlebell,when we say kettlebell we mean strength"

by Calhoun on Mar 15, 2008 1:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

congratulations

to SB Nation & fellow VEB'ers.
looks great !

"bury the dead, feed the survivors and rebuild the city" (marques do pombal, 1777)

by Johnny64 on Mar 15, 2008 1:24 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The New VEB

Reading this blog is like looking into the face of God and seeing Him smiling back and saying, "You are my most wondrous creation."

I can only think of one word for the new VEB - scrumtralescent.

by rockin the red on Mar 15, 2008 1:28 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

I'm thrilled that I don't have to use the subject line

but one thing that I'm already struggling with is how subtle the difference is between old comments and new. The faint yellow tinge and the line being yellow vs. gray took me quite a while to even notice.

It's aesthetically pleasing to look at but when I'm trying to quickly browse the new comments (with the cool new C-button browsing) it doesn't register in my brain fast enough as "new comment". I wind up a little disoriented looking for a more distinct visual indicator of which comment is actually new.

That may just be me though. . .

Huge kudos, constructive criticism aside, because the site is not only highly functional but it is visually clear and compelling. The visual component, rather than just being some nice slap on thought at the end, aids in distinguishing different parts of the blog and their function. It has a very slick feel to the whole thing and looks less blocky than the previous layout.

by azruavatar on Mar 15, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Word up

I saw that there was a new comment, so I did the old "find: [new" command, and I got nothing. That made finding new comments really, really easy.

by Alxfritz on Mar 15, 2008 1:45 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

We've tried to make finding new comments even easier

Push the C key on your keyboard to cycle through new comments.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 15, 2008 1:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

it'll just take some time

getting used to. It's like getting a new set of golf clubs, you know their better; but they're just not as comfortable. You have to tweak your muscle memory, if you will.

(God, that analogy sucks.)

by Alxfritz on Mar 15, 2008 1:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

New look

This is awesome! It will take some time to get used to.

Cubs blow

by Where is that Juan guy on Mar 15, 2008 1:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Comments

I really like the new comments system. Simply pressing c to cycle through new comments is much easier than using find:new on the old system. It's fantastic that they automatically update, that'll save a lot of clicks on the ol' refresh screen come game time.

My only real complaints are purely aesthetic. The red is too maroon--makes it looks like a Phillies blog or something. And the avatars are a nice touch, but they're so dreadfully small.

by stl tyler on Mar 15, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   3 recs

One thing that would be nice

Are there any plans for allowing one to edit their comments?

by stl tyler on Mar 15, 2008 2:00 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

not currently

that's why we have the preview

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by clockwerks on Mar 15, 2008 2:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I gave you a reccomend because I agree

The color on the sides needs to be changed to Cardinal Red.

Also the avatars are great but oh so Tiny.

"Why does he keep saying that?"

by Red Blazer on Mar 15, 2008 2:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I like it alot

anyone have a link to todays spring training gameday?

...just a bit outside....

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Mar 15, 2008 1:57 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

check the fanpost on today's game

by enoscountry on Mar 15, 2008 2:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Migration issue?

I was clicking around, because I always like see how long it takes me to break new things, and I clicked on the tag link (the original el birdos) on the left side of the main page. I went to the second linked entry (this one) and was reading through it.

Towards the end, one of the bullet points reads "this comment still cracks me up." and it should link to an old comment by a username Solanus. It was the 666th comment on that thread and it made self-reference to that fact. I don't see that comment in the thread anymore which makes me wonder if it got lost in the migration or something. All the comments are migrated over from the old platform even if the users haven't claimed their new account correct?

This could be nothing (read: isolated incident) but I thought I'd bring it up anyway. It also could have something to do with the fact that the comment entry links appear to have changed (i.e. they aren't specific to individual posts but to the blog itself).

(Note: To whoever has to figure out what I'm talking about, I hope I didn't ruin your day. Tracking possible software bugs is never fun -- I know firsthand -- so I tried to be as specific as possible.)

(Alternate Theory:One explanation.)

by azruavatar on Mar 15, 2008 2:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Also, another site suggestion

with the fanposts something that I wished would have happened with the diaries is that if a diary gets a 'new post', it gets bumped up to the top of the list. So, if the fanpost about Rasmus getting called up gets a reply, it moves to the top.

Just an idea.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 2:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

comment links

all comments were migrated, but we did not preserve their permalinks

the 666 comment mentioned is right here:

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/comments/2007/6/20/18278/9119/666#1413659

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by clockwerks on Mar 15, 2008 2:08 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yep

easiest bug to fix -- user error.

sorry.

by azruavatar on Mar 15, 2008 2:12 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Actually, we did preserve comment permalinks

But obviously we have a bug.

azruavatar, thanks for the detailed report. We'll get a fix out for this soon.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 15, 2008 2:27 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well let me amend that

I looked again and the comment is there (I was having a loading delay messing with something else and killed the page load but forgot about that) but the links to past comments aren't functional.

So the link is:
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/comments/2007/6/20/18278/9119/666#666
in the post when it should be:
http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/comments/2007/6/20/18278/9119/666#1413659

I don't have any idea if the intention was to convert old links in posts to the new permalink situation but the initial "bug" I was talking about was me trying to do multiple things at once and not paying attention to what I was doing on any one thing.

by azruavatar on Mar 15, 2008 2:35 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's correct

All of the old comments were migrated over properly, but we're not recognizing the old style comment permalinks, and we should be. I've identified the source of the problem; we'll release the fix sometime over weekend.

Thanks again for the detailed report.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 15, 2008 2:41 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's see if this works....

...life is good eating Lucky Dogs on a beautiful Saturday.

by Ignatius J Reilly on Mar 15, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

just trying to get this to work

You may send an outline of my new assignment to the mental ward at Charity Hospital. The solicitious nuns and psychiatrists there can help me decipher it between shock treatments.

by Ignatius J Reilly on Mar 15, 2008 2:17 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I guess the only thing remained to be seen

is who is going to take this Eric Davis avatar?

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 2:18 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

that's smooth

i had a hard time picking between curt flood and george hendrick. ultimately i went with flood, but this silent george pic is pretty boss, complete with powder blue uni.

Amaury translates into "Punisher of Spheroids" in the lost tongue of Atlantis. Marti means "Belgian Waffle."

by erik on Mar 15, 2008 5:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Choice

I was tempted to use this Dick Allen one from SI. Anyone that wants it can have it:

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 5:53 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hurts my eyes

I have poor eyesight to begin with, even with my progressive lenses, and due to the very small print on the sight, I always have to increase the font size two-fold at the least. Now, though, I think I'll have to revert to the 800x600 display just to read this stuff.

"The moment we want to believe something, we suddenly see all the arguments for it, and become blind to the arguments against it."

by cardsrul on Mar 15, 2008 2:22 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Is increasing the font size not working for you?

The default font size should be a bit bigger now than it was in the old design. And increasing the font size in your browser ought to work properly. What problems are you experiencing?

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 15, 2008 2:33 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Problems he is experiencing?

Sounds like old age to me. :D

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 2:34 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

It is

partly old age, HC, seriously. Plus, I can only see out of my right eye, so it's a bit more difficult for me.

@lovitt- the font size is the same on my browser as it used to be. I'll just have to increase the default myself...

"The moment we want to believe something, we suddenly see all the arguments for it, and become blind to the arguments against it."

by cardsrul on Mar 15, 2008 2:47 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

same here

the fading yellow is brutal on my eyes. And I paid a lot of money for them, so that makes me cranky. Same with the icons.

Is there any way to turn the new features off individually?

by SleepyCA on Mar 15, 2008 2:58 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

smooth transition

The transition was a piece of cake. I've been looking forward to the new design since it came out over at Athletics Nation. I do agree with the comments about the color. If its a sports team blog, at the very least the colors should be right, and this is not cardinal red. Its more like USC Cardinal. Which is a color I personally don't mind....but not on my Cardinals blogs.

Also...big fan of the live auto update, so you don't repeat a comment that gets made while you're typing.

If STL ownership couldn't retool the team as well as we might have liked, at least SB Nation has given us a nice shiny new blog to enjoy for the season!

dum loquimur fugerit invida aetas

by Neth on Mar 15, 2008 2:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Question:

are signatures no longer retroactive? Does the signature at the time of the comment stick with the comment forever?

Example:
Old Fritz comment: Okay, quick... Everybody back on the bandwagon... Now back off... Back on... Now dance!
New Fritz comment: [no signature]

by azruavatar on Mar 15, 2008 2:39 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

While I am being used as a guniea pig...

On the second comment az linked to, as you may notice, me grammar was not well.

I had that comment in preview and then changed my semi-colon and and "their" usage so that they would be correct, hit preview again, then "post!", but the unedited version still posted.

(And if this was just an elaborate plan to make me look like an idiot, well, I have to say your plan worked, but it really doesn't take much.)

by Alxfritz on Mar 15, 2008 2:59 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've done the same thing twice already

I just assumed it was our fantastic SIUE education.

by azruavatar on Mar 15, 2008 3:03 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Preview

I don't like the added click for the preview, but I understand it. I would like to see an edit to a preview posted without having to hit preview again though, again I understand the reason for having people preview their comments but I would like to be able to make quick one click posts.

by StLHugo on Mar 15, 2008 3:10 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The sidebar isn't updating the new comments

for this thread.

When I check the sidebar, it says there are no new posts for this thread and it is at , lets say, 138 posts. When I click on this thread, it says there are 3 New posts and a total of 141 posts.

So, unless I click on this, it doesn't tell me someone posted something new.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 2:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

There's a short delay on updates to the FanPosts list in the sidebar

We know this isn't ideal and we're working on it.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 15, 2008 3:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Claiming acounts

My only issue so far was that I was unable to claim my accounts at first but that has since been fixed for me, not sure what was wrong but the option wasn't there this morning. Also that my name was take so I had to change it. I hate having to add StL to the front of my name but it works for now at least.

by StLHugo on Mar 15, 2008 2:50 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I had a problem...

Claiming my account over at Bleed Cubbie Blue it says it cant find my account there. Could that have something to do with my username being the same over there? or what?

"when we say strength we mean kettlebell,when we say kettlebell we mean strength"

by Calhoun on Mar 15, 2008 3:03 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

You should be able to claim your BCB account here. Make sure you're entering the correct password; if you don't know the password to that old account, you can reset it by following the "Forgot your password?" link.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 15, 2008 3:23 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I got it to work just a second ago

It said it claimed it but my profile still only says I am a member of VEB and nothing else.

"when we say strength we mean kettlebell,when we say kettlebell we mean strength"

by Calhoun on Mar 15, 2008 3:24 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

BCB will appear on your profile after that blog has been moved to the new SB Nation

That move happens to be scheduled for this weekend.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 15, 2008 3:26 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ok

Thanks for the help! sorry to bug you.

"when we say strength we mean kettlebell,when we say kettlebell we mean strength"

by Calhoun on Mar 15, 2008 3:28 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Cards Roster

So far I'm loving the site. Takes a while longer to load on my old computer, but not snail like. Are you taking suggestions too? What about adding salary, or contract or when they're a free agent on the Roster page? It would be a great resource and LB wouldn't have to keep putting the matrix together? Otherwise - kudos for all the hard work!

by sdelek on Mar 15, 2008 3:05 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   1 recs

Like the new look

wish it would automatically fit to a widescreen format instead though. I am all ready for the new season to start now I guess.

by ribbij on Mar 15, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

8-2 Cards

The Cards have really been taking it to the Mets today.

by StLHugo on Mar 15, 2008 3:11 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

yup

it's only spring training, but I love it!!!

The Phinsider: SBN's Miami Dolphins blog

by Matty I on Mar 15, 2008 3:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The Cardinals have won 8 spring training games

and 4 of them have been against Pond Scum.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 3:44 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Let's hope this trend continues into the regular season!

by cardsgirl95 on Mar 15, 2008 4:02 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

The new board

I really like the new board so far, the fanpost section seemingly gives more freedom for posting without flooding out popular topics.

I''m a Jenius!

by gibbons on Mar 15, 2008 3:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

That's what gibbons comes from!?

I love TGTM! Awesome user name.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Mar 15, 2008 4:42 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks!

haha, I love TGTTM too and I already pre-ordered Tim and Eric's awesome show, great job! on amazon ;)

I''m a Jenius!

by gibbons on Mar 15, 2008 7:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Wow

Very sexy. Still trying to figure out, but I'm looking forward to getting you to it.

On with the (good) youth movement!

by aet15 on Mar 15, 2008 4:41 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Comments

Is there anyway to have the new comments on top. I hate having to scroll all the way down to the bottom of the page to see new comments.

by indakind on Mar 15, 2008 5:47 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

neat

looking forward to all the sites being migrated to this format (well, the ones i frequent anyhow) so you can easily flow from blog to blog leaving comments and generally annoying people.

my only issue is the colors, we don't root for the phillies around these parts.

by lopey986 on Mar 15, 2008 6:43 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

This color is more

AZ Cardinal Red than CARDINAL Red....

"The moment we want to believe something, we suddenly see all the arguments for it, and become blind to the arguments against it."

by cardsrul on Mar 15, 2008 7:00 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Agreed...

What is up w/ that?

Billy Crystal is a tougher out than Izturis.

by tangledbrett on Mar 15, 2008 7:29 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

By the way...

the generic SB Nation Avatar guy looks like Barak Obama.

by Alxfritz on Mar 15, 2008 8:13 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Heh

The Halos Heaven folks noticed the same thing.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 15, 2008 9:43 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I was going to say the same thing

but someone said it looked like a stereotypical loudmouth and I wasn't touching that with a 10 foot pole.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 9:57 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Test

Just trying it out

by FMF1 on Mar 15, 2008 9:08 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

the more and more see this

the better i like it.

but again, i do have a widescreen monitor and the layout only covers about half of it. i'd like to see the center strip (with the main posts) be expanded.

and a comment from hardcore just popped up without me even doing anything...SWEET!

VEB Fantasy Baseball!

by stlcardinalsfang on Mar 15, 2008 9:59 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Noticed something

The *[code]* (change the [ to <) html tag no longer works in making comments, which makes it impossible to format a list of information. Like this:


Maris $75,000
McCarver $60,000
Gibson $85,000
Shannon $40,000
Brock $70,000
Cepeda $80,000
Flood $72,500
Javier $45,000
Maxvill $37,500
Schoendienst $42,000
________________________
$607,000

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 15, 2008 10:21 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

i'm guessing that is because

the comment editor doesn't have an html option. or at least, it doesn't seem to have one. trei, can we add that option to the comment editor?

by lboros on Mar 16, 2008 12:09 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Bah...

Who needs lists anyway?

by saladdays on Mar 16, 2008 12:58 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Oh no, we will still have lists

they will just be in disarray like the one above.

I can't wait until the first time I try to post a pitchers line and I have to figure out how many dashes to put between each number to make it work.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 16, 2008 1:02 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Ok, I've logged an issue about this

We'll return support for these kinds of formatted lists soon.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 16, 2008 3:40 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

sigh

i had high hopes for the new digs, and so far i've been let down. i almost feel bad for being the only guy to bitch about everything. i said almost. you asked for some feed back, so here you go.

the color is simply awful. i thought this was a ST LOUIS CARDINALS BLOG? where's my Cardinal Red color?

the yellow color behind comments looks horrible. and what's with all the black? i ask again, were is my Cardinal Red?

i've got a 20 inch Dell monitor, and half the screen is empty. is there any way to fix that?

there's still no damn EDIT button. WTF? i've been asking for an edit button for YEARS.

i HATE having to hit the PREVIEW button. what happens in the middle of the season when an ump blows a call & i want to say something real quick and i can't because of the damn preview button? fix that if you would please. i'm not joking. i'm dead serious. thats almost a deal breaker for me.

losing the link to my blog really pisses me off. it's not a porn pic, it's not even a blog with foul language. there's just stuff i want to say on here that i don't feel comfortable saying, so i say it there. and if the link is gone from my sig here, then my viewer ship is gone. almost all the traffic to my blog is from VEB. and now you've taken that away from me & i don't like it or appreciate it one bit.

the avatar's are too small. what's the point in having one if you can't tell what it is?

so far i do not like this change. i know it had to happen, but there's a lot of new stuff here that i really don't like. part of what made the old site so fun & enjoyable was it's pureness & it's simplicity. it's going to take a long, LONG time to get used to everything new here. and to be honest with you, i don't know if i've got that much time & energy.

why is there never a puppy around when you really need one?

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Mar 16, 2008 4:17 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

all good points.

Hey gdm426, thanks for all the feedback. Our hope is that in time y'all will get more comfortable with the new digs, as we incorporate feedback and deploy changes. Here's a couple of notes:

Colors: we worked with lboros to choose the color scheme, and recently changed the background from maroon to black, and this morning from black to the blue in the Cardinal's logo. Hopefully that's a step in the right direction. We think the cardinal color works well for the sports widgets and title bar. Also, the yellow only appears on new comments. Press Z to scroll through new comments and mark them as read.

Width / layout: you're not the first to comment on the width question, to be sure :) If you poke around, the most popular blogs (and sites like the New York Times) use a similar fixed-width page layout because they find that it's easier on their readers for scanning and reading. I use the real estate of my 24" monitor to open multiple programs or browser windows. You don't find it hard on your eyes and neck to read across the full width of the monitor?

Edit Button: Do you mean an edit button for comments?

Preview Button: give this a try for a little while. A lot of our users are finding that it helps them check how things will look, and helps avoid posting mistakes. Note that while posting a comment you can hit the TAB button to jump down to the "Preview" button. Hit ENTER once to preview and again to post. You never need to touch your mouse.

Sig HTML - as I mentioned elsewhere, you sold us on allowing links in sig files. We'll be deploying that feature later tonight.

Avatars - We used to have them more prominent, but it bothered a lot of users. Our hope is that the current position allows you to scan them while keeping them out of the way of the comment content.

Lastly, here is my puppy, Alfie. I hope he helps make everyone a little more comfortable. Thanks for your patience - VEB is only the 4th community to be migrated.

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I'm the SB Nation visual designer. We're still tidying!

by sixfoot6 on Mar 16, 2008 5:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

love the puppy,

but clearly you didn't read my sig. i was in a pretty grouchy, old fart mood last night, so i'm glad you didn't take any of my bitching personally.

thanks again for allowing links in sigs. i really appreciate it. i promise to not abuse that privilege.

i had such a problem with the yellow color on all the comments yesterday because it was the first time i read the page, and they were all in yellow. all 185. it was really brite & was a bit much. but once i made my post i saw the yellow was gone, it was no longer a problem. so i can totally live with it now. and the away blue is fine in my book as well.

which leads back to my edit button question. when i say edit button, yes i mean after you've made the comment & something has changed & you would like to go back & fix it. like the yellow colors behind the comments i made. had there been an edit button, i could have gone back & said "NEVER MIND, I'M AN IDIOT." and you would have known to ignore that part of my post.

can you at least make the avatar's a little bigger? they are so small.

i can live with half the screen being blank. it just seams like a waste of space to me. besides from my laptop, the space is much smaller. so it's a non issue for me if i'm on the site with the laptop like i am now. but like i said, it just seams like a waste of space. if some one came up with a good idea to fill that space would you all be up to listening to their ideas? i'm sure with all the brilliant minds on VEB, someone could come up with something to put there.

i want to thank you again for not taking my old farting ways of last night personally. i really appreciate all the work everyone is doing to make this the best site out there for the us Cardinals fans. i can assure you i'm only 30, not 85 like i sounded last night. and i'm not going anywhere & i'm more than willing to put up with a few growing pains. thank you again for listening to my ranting & taking the time to comment back. i really appreciate it that you are willing to take some criticism & then make some changes. now if i have any more complaints, i'll be sure to let you all know & not be afraid of offending anyone. i really do appreciate all the hard work that everyone is doing. thanks again for listening, and thanks again for putting in all the work to make VEB awesome.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson And That's A Winner!

by gdm426 on Mar 17, 2008 1:29 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   1 recs

oh noes!

Wow, apparently I really don't look at sig files. Alfie would be none too pleased that I volunteered him for an online kicking.

You're actually the first person who's requested a Edit button since we started rolling out SBNation 2.0 sites. We tried to focus on Preview to encourage folks to check their work before they post. We'll share some of our reasoning for not including Edit buttons in the near future. If it's a frequent enough request we'll definitely take another look.

It's funny, some users have requested that we make avatars smaller, or that they be removed altogether. At some point we may implement a user setting for this. Noted for sure.

As you said, there are sure to be more growing pains coming. We definitely appreciate the feedback and criticism, and we don't take your Old Farting Ways personally... but we know that stuff like this is personal. We basically came in and re-arranged what for maybe people feels like their living room or an after-work watering hole, and that's personal stuff. We're all sports fans, bloggers and longtime members (and builders) of web communities, and we're going to help VEB (and each of the other SBN communities) kick ass in its own way.

Just give us a little time :-)

I'm one of the dudes who built the new SB Nation. We're still tidying!

by sixfoot6 on Mar 17, 2008 12:09 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Hey I wouldn't actually kick Alfie,

just don't let him any where near Brad after he has a bad outing!

i've been "yelling" about the edit button mostly in my in game comments since 05, so i've never actually filed an "official" request for the EDIT option. i think it would be a great addition to the new site & a very helpful tool to use. i can see it mostly being used if you screw up a phrase or spelling of a word & don't want to go back & reply to it. i think it would be a big space saver in a lot of instances. just my two cents.

if there was a way to sit it up that each person could have avatar's on, or off, and then if they have them on decide what size they would like them, i think that might be the move. but i totally understand if that's too hard to do or simply can't be done. it just seams to me that if you are going to have them, you should have them at a size that everyone can tell what they are. right now, they are just too small.

lastly, in defense of my "old farting ways". i had just spent 5 hours on the side of the road with a broken down truck most of the night on Saturday. so i was really not in the mood to come to my old stomping grounds & not recognize the neighborhood. it's all good now & i'm really glad i didn't offend anyone. i honestly am starting to like the new look & get used to all the new bells & whistles. so thanks to you & everyone else for all their hard work getting the site redone off the ground.

thanks again for listening, and thanks again for all the hard work.

rest assured, little Alfie is safe.

I'm going to go try to find a puppy and kick it. - Brad Thompson

by gdm426 on Mar 17, 2008 3:54 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Well......

With this many people I guess you cant make everyone happy...
But I do agree about the color..

"when we say strength we mean kettlebell,when we say kettlebell we mean strength"

by Calhoun on Mar 16, 2008 11:45 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One more thing

On the front page it says

Welcome to the SB Nation blog about St. Louis Cardinals

But at least to me that sentence sounds bad.... you need to add a the before St. Louis Cardinals

"when we say strength we mean kettlebell,when we say kettlebell we mean strength"

by Calhoun on Mar 16, 2008 12:26 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I've had some posts disappear

in the 'Do you like the colors' thread, I posted something about the text needed to be changed from yellow because it looked like McDonalds and then the post disappeared when I came back later.

Also, last night in my FanPhoto thread, another post about how I updated the photo description disappeared.

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 16, 2008 5:58 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I responded in the colors thread

See here.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 16, 2008 6:36 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One small thing I noticed...

When composing a REPLY to an existing comment, when you hit the "preview" button, the new comment apparently does not preview as being aligned/indented one level further in. During the preview, it appears to be aligned at the same level as the comment you are replying to, rather than one level to the right. This behavior was specifically exhibited when I replied to the comment by sixfoot6 on Mar 16, 2008 3:03 PM CDT, above. (Also, as a "root" comment rather than an indented reply, the alignment of this post looked normal during the preview.)

Note that once I actually posted the reply, it lined up properly...but the preview alignment might confuse some posters who want to make sure they are replying to the correct comment. I don't know if it is something you can tweak, but you might give it a look.

Keep up the excellent work! (I wish all of my migrations went as smoothly as this one!)

There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

by Mr Clean on Mar 16, 2008 9:29 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Great work by the IT group on all of these issues

I know I sound like a complainer, so I wanted to tell you that you guys have done a great job of fixing what small problems exist and listening to our comments about them.

A little glitch I noticed, I don't believe the 'C' tabbing down to new posts works in threads that have polls in them. It works great in every thread but I can't seem to get it to function in the Brian Barton Fanpost.

Great work!

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 16, 2008 9:55 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I think I found the problem

When loading that page, I get an error on Internet Explorer (I know I should be using Firefox). Anyways, here is the error:

Still looking for 1985 Regular Season games on DVD/VHS

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 16, 2008 10:21 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

I have all kinds of trouble with internet exployer

including new IE PRO. I never use. only to go to microsoft for updates.

by ridgesee on Mar 16, 2008 11:06 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

how very strange

we'll take a look at this, Hardcore. thanks for taking the time to check it out and to share a screengrab!

I'm one of the dudes who built the new SB Nation. We're still tidying!

by sixfoot6 on Mar 17, 2008 2:56 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

For the record...

I can confirm that the javascript "c" function shortcut works perfectly with Firefox v2.0.0.6, even on the Brian Barton Fanpost w/ the poll, both before and after submitting a poll vote.

And, hey, nice job with the comment indent fix already! You guys are really on top of things!

There are 10 types of people in the world. Those who understand binary, and those who don't.

by Mr Clean on Mar 17, 2008 3:14 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks

now if only my wife was so appreciative of my long hours staring at this monitor :)

I'm one of the guys who built the new SB Nation. Please don't hesitate to give us feedback.

by sixfoot6 on Mar 17, 2008 2:14 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Good catch

Thanks very much for the detailed description. We'll have a fix out soon.

I'm one of the guys that built the new SB Nation

by lovitt on Mar 16, 2008 10:04 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Reply / preview indent fix on the way, Mr. Clean

look for a repair on that tonight! thanks for mentioning it.

I'm the SB Nation visual designer. We're still tidying!

by sixfoot6 on Mar 17, 2008 12:11 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Issue with the RSS reader

From my RSS reader (Sage Feeds on Firefox), clicking the "Monday Morning Media Musings" link directs me to a "The page you were looking for doesn't exist" screen. All the other links from the reader seem to work fine.

The URL that doesn't work is:

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/2008/3/17/294749/story%A0title

by Pujols Shot Ya on Mar 17, 2008 9:52 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

thanks for posting that

I thought my entire RSS reader was broken (I've had that issue before when other sites reformatted) but now I see that yes it is just the "Monday Morning ..." post that isn't working.

by nyredbirdgirl on Mar 17, 2008 11:34 AM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

new site

First time user, so I don't have anything to compare with. Very easy to join up and post. Everything has worked great. Looking forward to participating.

Lovitt, looks like your doing a great job. Keep it up.

austincardinal

by austincardinal on Mar 17, 2008 9:56 AM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

One problem with the new board

I don't think it should be mandatory to preview a post before you make it.

I'm not questioning the purpose of the preview feature itself and definately feel it should still be available to use. However, for those of us who use HTML regularly, it's not fun to go through another step before posting.

Just nit picking, I know. ;)

I''m a Jenius!

by gibbons on Mar 17, 2008 12:52 PM EDT reply reply actions actions   0 recs

Are you using keyboard controls?

You can hit TAB to jump to the Preview button, then ENTER once to Preview and again to Post. No mouse necessary.

A system designed for jeniuses!

I'm one of the guys who built the new SB Nation. Please don't hesitate to give us feedback.

by sixfoot6 on Mar 17, 2008 2:15 PM EDT to parent up reply reply actions actions   0 recs

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