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Utility Fills

It's gonna be a quick one this morning, folks.  I'm more than a little strapped for time.  (if I listen really hard, I can hear a faint sound of cheering)  

Well, we had our first tie of the spring yesterday.  It was actually a pretty decent game; the pitching in particular was encouraging.  Todd Wellemeyer got the start and was solid, going four innings, giving up two runs, (one earned) five hits, and one walk.  I'll take some more of that, please.  Give me about two or three more innings at that performance level and all of a sudden we've got a pretty serviceable pitcher.  Really, Welley's been fairly strong this spring, with an ERA under 3.00 so far.  He's still been a little erratic with his control at times, but he hasn't completely lost it yet as he did at times last season, so I'm mildly encouraged by the early returns.  

The rest of the staff was solid as well, especially Izzy.  He threw one perfect inning, and took only six pitches to do so.  I'll take some more of those too.  

Colby Rasmus was on base three times out of five plate appearances, with two walks and an infield hit.  He stole two bases as well; everyone was angry he didn't come through at the end.  I love how everybody fixated on his strikeout in the ninth, conveniently ignoring what he did the rest of the day.  He made a bad play in the outfield and struck out in a key spot.  He also had a .600 OBP for the day, and, as Hardcore Legend pointed out in yesterday's thread, employed some sort of strange tactic that we Cardinal fans are not particularly familiar with to advance on the base paths.  I think it's becoming pretty clear that Colby is going to start the year in Triple A, and I'm pretty okay with that.  It's actually what I felt was probably the most prudent course all along.  I'm somehow still a little bothered by the whole thing, though, because as much as I agree with the move, I don't think I agree with the reasons it's being made for.  Oh well.  Maybe I'm just looking for reasons to complain.  

The outfield is starting to come a little bit clear.  Skip's in, Rasmus is out, Barton and Juan are still fighting it out, although I still think Juan has the inside track.  The bullpen is an absolute mess; I don't have anywhere near enough time to attempt to make any sense of that miasma this morning.  There is, however, one spot on the roster that I'm finding the competition to fill absolutely riveting.  

With the departure of Scott Spiezio, the utility infielder spot opened up, particularly for a player who specialised more in the corner positions, rather than up the middle.  Adam Kennedy and Cesar Izturis are going to be the starting middle infield, as least for awhile, whether you like it or not.  Aaron Miles will back both of them up, again, like it or not.  That last spot, though, that jack of all trades spot, is completely open, and we're seeing a very intriguing story line playing itself out there.  

Joe Mather and Brendan Ryan have emerged as the frontrunners for that roster spot, and by frontrunners, I mean that I don't think any of the other candidates are really in the picture anymore.  So which one of these guys would be best?  

Ryan is, at this point, more of the know quantity.  That's not saying a whole lot, as his major league experience amounts to just a few months worth of time and fairly limited exposure in that time, but that's still more than what Mather has.  Ryan's skill set offers good speed, as he has shown the ability to make things happen on the base paths.  He's not the most efficient of basestealers, but he does have the speed to get a little creative.  He has above average range in the field, and he's versatile enough to play all three infield spots outside of first.  Technically, I'm sure he could play first as well; I just don't know how well.  He looks to be able to hit for a decent average, albeit not quite at the standard he established last year.  He offers little in the way of power, and his average independent on base skills are not impressive, (although, come to think of it, he does get hit fairly often) and so he will probably be on the roster due to his skill with the glove; any offense you receive from him is purely a bonus.  

Joe Mather, on the other hand, is nearly the exact opposite of Ryan.  He's a physical specimen, offering tremendous bat speed and power.  As a bat off the bench, he would seem to offer a similar profile to what Eduardo Perez gave the Cardinals a couple of years back.  He came up as a third and first basemen, but due to organisational roadblocks at each position, was moved to the outfield.  He doesn't have the actions or range to play the middle infield at all, so he's a little less versatile.  He does offer a bit more in the outfield, having played regularly out there, whereas Ryan played all of about four or five innings in the outfield last season, if I remember correctly.  Mather has good speed as well, although it plays better once he's underway, rather than being the fast twitch, first step quickness that Brendan Ryan offers.  Mather has played only briefly at the AAA level, and didn't light the world on fire there.  However, he does offer a profile closer to what the Cardinals lost in Scott Spiezio, in that he plays the corner IF positions and the outfield, and offers extra base pop off of the bench.  

So which one will it be?  Ryan, with his speed, defensive versatility, and energy?  Or Mather, with his power and superior overall production with the bat?  The choice is yours, El Vivi Birders.   For my own part, I'm undecided, but I have to admit to being awfully intriged by Mather. I love his bat, I like the corner infield background, and I think that his offensive profile is similar to Juan Gonzalez's. If Mather's on the roster, I think Barton stands a better chance of staying in St. Louis, rather than receiving a plane ticket back to Cleveland. I really can't quite make up my mind on this one yet, though. Someone convince me one way or the other.

By the way, in case you haven't heard yet, Anthony Reyes is going to take Joel Pineiro's spot on the mound today.  Good luck, Anthony.  For his sake and ours, he needs to right the ship.  The need isn't becoming any less pressing, with the Cards' starters currently dropping like flies yet again.  We need you, Anthony.  We really, really do.  

Later, everybody.  

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"I think it's becoming pretty clear that Colby is going to start the year in Triple A, and I'm pretty okay with that.  It's actually what I felt was probably the most prudent course all along.  I'm somehow still a little bothered by the whole thing, though, because as much as I agree with the move, I don't think I agree with the reasons it's being made for.  Oh well.  Maybe I'm just looking for reasons to complain."  

It looks like you are just looking for reasons.  I say that after reading
Goold's
article today:

"Manager Tony La Russa said Colby Rasmus' batting average is only a small -- and misleading -- part of the numbers the outfielder has produced. Just like his numbers are only part of the decision whether he'll make the team."

He goes on to to talk about service time and slugging/OB pct as well as his ability to steal bases.  

by silent_bob on Mar 12, 2008 8:22 AM EDT reply actions  

true, but...
LaRussa also said he didn't want to Colby to think he had a good day with the error and strikeout in the 9th.  I think he is going to have to hit .400 or so the rest of the way not to start at AAA. I'm cool with that if it means Barton makes the team.

by nmstar on Mar 12, 2008 8:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

I saw that too
but I don't see any funny business going on.  IMO, there are just too many qualified OF's vying for AB's.  Rasmus will get more PT in Memphis and we'll have more time to see how the OF situation shakes out in April/May.  It's Skippy's time.  And as much as it pains me to say it, JuanGone ain't going anywhere.  

Plus, I just can't see the Cards letting Barton go for nothing-I mean they kept Hector Luna on the roster for a whole year and that guy drove Tony nuts.  

by silent_bob on Mar 12, 2008 11:05 AM EDT up reply actions  

thanks, Bob.
That's encouraging.  I think I read yesterday that LaRussa said he didn't want Colby to think he had a good day, and I was very discouraged by that.  I don't recall where I saw it, though.  Little help, anyone?  
"Hello, Cleveland!"

by the red baron on Mar 12, 2008 8:38 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think
It was the Post. That was the comment I was referencing.

by nmstar on Mar 12, 2008 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

oops.
Sorry nms.  I was in a hurry and didn't even see you had already posted about that.  
"Hello, Cleveland!"

by the red baron on Mar 12, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

cards are looking at lohse
http://www.stltoday.com/stltoday/sports/stories.nsf/cardinals/story/466A44C88D2D55798625740A001472BE ?OpenDocument

"Four days after Cardinals general manager John Mozeliak downplayed the club's search for additional starting pitching, the club reacted Tuesday to persistent questions about Joel Pineiro's right shoulder by inquiring about free agent Kyle Lohse.

Lohse, once considered one of the top pitchers in an unexceptional free agent class, failed to command a bid approaching the four-year, $48 million deal Carlos Silva signed with the Seattle Mariners.

Lohse, a client of Scott Boras, is now expected to sign a one-year deal worth less than $5 million after going 9-12 with a 4.63 ERA in 2007 with the Cincinnati Reds and Philadelphia Phillies. Lohse carries a career 63-74 record and a 4.83 ERA."

by lboros on Mar 12, 2008 8:24 AM EDT reply actions  

My submission...
"Is the decision whether Brian Barton makes the team up to TLR? It would seem a decision that impacts whether the system loses a player shouldn't be up to the field manager.  It's certainly not as simple as who the best leadoff hitter or pinch-hitting outfielder could be in 2008."

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 8:56 AM EDT up reply actions  

Question 2
How much will MLB's recommended slotting system influence this year's draft?

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 9:19 AM EDT up reply actions  

maybe this is a good thing?
The Cards will save a lot of money compared to if they had signed him in the offseason, and have a more reliable option in the starting rotation.

Then think about what happens if (a big if) people might actually start getting healthy. You get to have Wainwright, Looper, and Lohse and then your choice from Reyes, Wellemyer, Piniero, Clement, and Mulder... plus Thompson in the bullpen and Parisi in the minors. That means two of those back-end starters become tradeable (hint: Reyes?). We wouldn't necessarily get anything great for them, but maybe they would help a team down the stretch and we'd be able to strengthen our farm system.

by kblakestl on Mar 12, 2008 10:10 AM EDT up reply actions  

A Plea to Cardinal Management ...
PLEASE sign Kyle Lohse ... so far we have done nothing (concrete) to improve the rotation from last year.  Stop putting ALL of your eggs in the Clement/Mulder/Pinero/Looper basket. Just too many questions there, which are all already pointing negative.  

Larry has already analyzed in a previous post how similar Lohse's numbers are to Suppan's at the same career point.  He is a proven innings eater with that upside.  What this rotation needs is another Supe ... Lohse is the closest (or most potential way) of getting that.  PLEASE sign him.  Spend the money, if you want to be competitive ...

Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Mar 12, 2008 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

competitive
Kyle Lohse is the difference in making this team competitive?

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 10:36 AM EDT up reply actions  

IF ...
He pitches like Suppan did when he came over, he could be ...
Culture of Winning: 10 World Championships, 17 Pennants, 6 Division Championships ...

by Cardinals4Ever on Mar 12, 2008 12:57 PM EDT up reply actions  

Even if he does what he's always done
 - which isn't spectacular -- he'd take a question mark out of a rotation filled with them.  A league averagish sure thing improves the team by making it decreasing its reliance on rehabbing and unproven pitchers, IMO.  It would also give us the option of moving Looper back to the bullpen if everything pans out (Reyes doesn't suck, Mulder comes back healthy, Piniero isn't hurt, etc.).

by Ray Lankford on Mar 12, 2008 1:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

There is a huge difference
between eating innings and taking a questionmark out of the pen...and making the team competitive.

I am not against the signing.  I do question whether it's money thrown away.

It has been noted that there aren't enough minor league starting jobs to go around.   I just wonder why we don't "trickle up" for a couple months until our starters finish rehabbing?   Does the organization really believe we might contend?  

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I've been
beating the drum to sign Lohse ever since the rumor came out he was willing to sign a one year deal, it just made so mutch sence. I almost jumped for joy reading that in the P-D this morning. He's not great but he is healthy and an innings eater. This deal MUST get done.

I was thinking about this last night and it stuck me how lucky we are. The team didn't do mutch of anything to help the rotation this off season and the need for starting pitching help has become so apparent even retreads like Ponson and David "what's wrong with wearing Babe Ruths jersey?" Wells are calling US.

Yet we can, thanks to the incompetent job Boris did this off season overvaluing his clients, in the middle of spring training sign the second best pitcher that was available this year. This kind of thing never happens, thank god it did this year. If he signs everyone on El Vivi Birdos needs to send Boris a thank you card.

"Do what you want to the women and children but leave me alone"-George Carlin

by That's a Winner on Mar 12, 2008 12:56 PM EDT up reply actions  

The bullpen
"The Bullpen is a mess"?  did something happen to it since last week when you broke it down?

It doesn't seem a mess to me.  Am I missing something?   I thought it was pretty much set except for one spot.

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 8:25 AM EDT reply actions  

I don't mean
A mess as in its bad; I mean trying to figure out how it's all going to shake out, with an undetermined number of starting occupied by relievers.  We don't really know how many spots are really available, so its almost impossible to try and fill them.  
"Hello, Cleveland!"

by the red baron on Mar 12, 2008 8:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Mather v Ryan
I'm leaning towards Mather on this one.  A lot depends on his ability to play third...he needs to start a few games there, and soon.  I see Ryan as the first guy up when one of the current MIF's fails or gets injured...I don't see Iz2 on the team after May.

ARey...bring the goods today!!!  Show that top of the rotation potential you were once billed to possess.

Thanks for the highlight moments 15 and 27!!!

by cardzfanbub on Mar 12, 2008 8:35 AM EDT reply actions  

I'll second that.
Yes, Anthony, please bring the stuff because we do need you to be that guy you sometimes show us glimpses of, you know, the one who can really pitch.  

by cardsgirl95 on Mar 12, 2008 8:42 AM EDT up reply actions  

I hope he does
But, I don't feel as desperate about it like I did his first start.   It seems more and more like he is a lock for the rotation to start the season due to injuries.   I think it gives him a little breathing room.  I hope he does great, but I don't think he has to be lights out to win a spot.

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 8:45 AM EDT up reply actions  

I agree...
he doesn't have to do too well to make the rotation...but I would like to someday be able to question again who is the better pitcher ARey or AW?  At one time we (or at least I) thought the answer was Reyes.  Today...it's clearly Wainwright.
Thanks for the highlight moments 15 and 27!!!

by cardzfanbub on Mar 12, 2008 8:50 AM EDT up reply actions  

I think you are right,
Reyes has most likely won his spot in the rotation.  I'm just saying that he needs to live up to his potential this season because starters are dropping like flies all around him.  

by cardsgirl95 on Mar 12, 2008 8:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

top of the rotation?
never seen a top start that uses just 3 pitches, with an occasional 2-seamer as a fourth.

but his minor league totals signal that he should do well.

Cardwash - Cardinal, Washington fan (Washington???? Yeah, I know)

by cardwash on Mar 13, 2008 1:32 AM EDT up reply actions  

Ah, have you heard of Johan?
He only has three pitches, and many games he just uses two-fastball and change up.  If you have great location and/or great stuff you most certainly can get by on two or three pitches.  That's a big if, I know, but there have been others-Randy Johnson, Sid Fernandez, and the best reliever of all time, IMHO, Mariano Rivera.  He just throws one pitch.

I am not comparing  Reyes to any of those guys.  I'm just saying it can and has been done.  Some pitchers come up with a new pitch when they have to after learning what works and what doesn't at the big league level.  

She isn't crazy, she's just not impressed.

by jillsinmo on Mar 13, 2008 7:06 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll take Ryan
I'll like to see Mather get a bit of AAA time.  He is interesting, though.  Certainly more so than Ryan.  I think what Ryan offers is versatility in the ability to play 2, 3, or SS.  I consider Duncan the backup 1st baseman and we may still get to see Mather if Pujols goes down.  

Also, I have this fantasy of Miles, Izturis, and Kennedy not all making through the season with us.  We'll see how it plays out.

by Beware the Molinas on Mar 12, 2008 8:56 AM EDT reply actions  

Re: Cutting Miles, Izturis or Kennedy
Your ideas are intriguing to me and I wish to subscribe to your newsletter.

Seriously, it should be Ryan beating out Izturis for the SS job or Miles for the backup role, and then we can keep both of the young guys around instead of another veteran reject.

by Phyrkrakr on Mar 12, 2008 9:55 AM EDT up reply actions  

You are absolutely correct ...
Unless there is a turnaround, the competition should be Izturis/Miles vs. Ryan.  IMHO, if either make the team before Ryan, then management won't be putting the best team on the field.  

Izturis is pulling a Spivey ... he just isn't getting the job done.  Someone needs to suck it up and admit make a bad decision ... it happens ... get over it.  

Put the best players on the field for crying out loud!

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by Cardinals4Ever on Mar 12, 2008 10:24 AM EDT up reply actions  

Only partially agree.
I agree with Ryan over Izturis, but I think the "best players on the field" philosophy is wrong for this year.

We are a huge long-shot for a playoff berth.   I seriously doubt we will finish anywhere near .500.  

Therefore, I don't think we necessarily put the best players on the field.  I think we should put te players in the best interest of the long-term success of the franchise on the field.   For example, Juan Gonzalez MIGHT be better than Brian Barton right now...but, I think Barton should be a no-brainer over Juan.

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 10:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

I'd come down on the side of
Mather, but -- and it's a galaxy-sized but -- in that scenario Miles is our backup SS.  And that is too horrible to contemplate.

by MdRedbirdFreak on Mar 12, 2008 9:03 AM EDT reply actions  

An ideal situation
would be if Miles was gone and Brendan served that backup middle role with Mather sticking to cover the outside corners.

by paCardsFan on Mar 12, 2008 9:16 AM EDT reply actions  

Preference
I would rather keep Miles and DFA Izturis, myself.   Ryan could start and Miles could back up the middle infield.

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 9:17 AM EDT up reply actions  

+1
i believe the team doesnt owe the full salary if they cut a guy in spring training...its either 30 or 60 days pay depending on when he is cut.  might as well cut izturis loose now.  he was signed for his defense and he hasnt shown the glove yet.

by dmb60614 on Mar 12, 2008 9:29 AM EDT up reply actions  

Agreed...
but as long as one of the two is gone...by the end of May (preferably March) I'm happy!!!
Thanks for the highlight moments 15 and 27!!!

by cardzfanbub on Mar 12, 2008 9:31 AM EDT up reply actions  

I say fully commit to "re-build"
and let the young guys stay. Cut Iz2 at least. However from a players point of view don't you think it would hurt future F.A. signings "i had a rough spring and they cut me loose" they may have to ride it out a bit as much as we all hate it. Thats why they should have signed him to a minor league deal like Juan, cause you can cut those guys loose without heartache. He only had a chance to begin with. Iz2 on the other hand signed a major league deal..hope that makes sense
I can't believe i gave up a homerun to that punch and judy hitter-major league 2

by punchinjudy on Mar 12, 2008 12:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

ryan vs. mather
can't it be both? I was crushed, no i mean CRUSHED, when they resigned Miles because that would mean Ryan would be in AAA to start the season. I would much rather have one of the miles iz2 gone and insert ryan there. Then you could also have Mather on the bench for the right handed pop and he could play 3rd. This would also mean no juan and the keeping of barton.
"Textbooks are Soviet propaganda" - Rev. Jerry Falwell

by elirock83 on Mar 12, 2008 9:48 AM EDT reply actions  

miles or iz2
radio edit
"Textbooks are Soviet propaganda" - Rev. Jerry Falwell

by elirock83 on Mar 12, 2008 9:48 AM EDT up reply actions  

OPS middle infield projections (ZIPS version)
Jimenez   .696
Ryan      .666
Hoffpauir .650
Miles     .645
Kennedy   .644
Izturis   .614

Sigh.

by DCGreg on Mar 12, 2008 10:03 AM EDT up reply actions  

there can be no reply
I clicked on reply, but your sigh says it.

There is no good hit/no field option among those.

The best we can hope for, is good field/no hit, but I'm not sure who supplies the "good field."

by madridbend on Mar 12, 2008 4:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

We could start with...
Not leaving the top 3 at AAA and taking the bottom 3 to the MLB.

by DriverZn on Mar 12, 2008 4:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

solution
Miles, Kennedy and Iz2 are not going to be cut.  So I think the solution is to move miles to the bullpen (he does have a little experience there) and keep both mather and ryan on the opening day squad.  

by cdb on Mar 12, 2008 10:12 AM EDT reply actions  

No Juan in the lineup.
Yet another day with no Juan in the line-up or field.  

My hopes Barton will make the team grow daily.  Go get 'em kid!

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 10:39 AM EDT reply actions  

Catcher
Been following the games days when I can and I noticed the other day that Molina gave up a couple stolen bases. No big deal, and since I'm not witnessing it firsthand I don't know if the pitcher is more to blame with slow delivery and/or other factors. I had also noticed a few times that LaRue had gunned down some runners. So I looked up their early (and obvious small sample size) to compare.

Player          TEAM   POS  G  GS  INN   TC  PO  A  E  DP  PB  SB  CS  RF    FPCT    
1. Y Molina  STL    C      9  9   54.0  38  34  3  1  1   1   6   2   6.17  .974
2. J LaRue   STL    C      8  5   41.0  29  23  6  0  1   0   1   6   6.37  1.000

I know it's way early but I really like the job Jason LaRue is doing filling in. Right now it looks like a huge upgrade over Wild Turkey and  he's even out-playing Molina at the plate and behind it. Nice pick up Mo.

by paCardsFan on Mar 12, 2008 10:49 AM EDT reply actions  

Sorry
typos. games days= mlb "gamedays"

by paCardsFan on Mar 12, 2008 10:51 AM EDT up reply actions  

It's probably possible
that Yadi is being told to hold back, too.

by sdrone on Mar 12, 2008 11:47 AM EDT up reply actions  

i was really impressed by Larue
He is very athletic, was working very hard and seems to a be a real character.  He was even taking infield drills and looked pretty good at both positions, has a very smooth pivot and obviously a great arm.  His throw to gun out Hanley Ramirez was a thing of beauty.
play skip at second base.

by SleepyCA on Mar 12, 2008 12:27 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan
Izturis has been terrible, and looks like a bad signing, but I think we are overestimating Ryan.  What has he done to "win" the job?  He's hitting .227 (small sample caveat) and there is a very real probability that he will revert back to his extensive minor league numbers.  

Ryan is a better defensive SS than Izturis at this time (though many people that have seen them in Spring Training say their range is similar), so I'd rather have him than Izturis.  Saying that, we've already got a .650 OPS backup middle infielder (that we are for sure keeping), why not take the better hitter?  Is Ryan's defense worth more than what Mather could bring to the table as a better 3b/1b backup and better pinch hitter?  (With the added bonus of making it easier not to take JuanGone over Barton because we'd have our power bat on the bench.)

Right now, Mather is winning hands down IMHO.

"It takes pitching, hitting and defense. Any two can win. All three make you unbeatable". Joe Garagiola

by MRCARD on Mar 12, 2008 11:23 AM EDT reply actions  

there was an article by Goold
on one of the first days of spring training where he said they had similar range, but that's the only place I've seen that.  Imho Ryan blows Iz2 away with his range, by 3-4 feet in either direction, and he's quicker on the turn, with a better arm.

Ryan's problems are that he loses focus and makes dumb mistakes, like not covering second on a pickoff attempt against the orioles or not being in the right position to cut a ball off (nats or marlins), and he doesn't have the surest glove in the world.  Iz2 wasn't much better with the glove though, as he made more errors while I was watching (not all the balls Iz2 fumbled were called errors).

play skip at second base.

by SleepyCA on Mar 12, 2008 12:36 PM EDT up reply actions  

3-4 feet
Where are you getting that information (3-4 feet more range)?  I'm not denying it's truth, but I haven't seen it, nor have I seen anything in print saying this.  That seems like an obvious exageration, but I'd be interested to see if you actually had some sort of imperical proof to it.

P.S.  I would trust Gould's comments, even if they were the only ones.  I know LaRussa isn't popular around here, but he said the same thing.

"It takes pitching, hitting and defense. Any two can win. All three make you unbeatable". Joe Garagiola

by MRCARD on Mar 12, 2008 2:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Goold
I mean Goold
"It takes pitching, hitting and defense. Any two can win. All three make you unbeatable". Joe Garagiola

by MRCARD on Mar 12, 2008 2:45 PM EDT up reply actions  

that's my eyeball gauge
from watching them take groundballs in warmups every day for a week.  Pettini was really challenging them on occasion and ryan was by far the better defender.  He's just so quick with that first step.

I've not seen it written anywhere else, which baffles me.  But I digress.

play skip at second base.

by SleepyCA on Mar 12, 2008 2:49 PM EDT up reply actions  

Interesting...
It's interesting to hear someone who has seen it first hand.  I'd have to think Ryan has a little more incentive to be going after ground balls in fielding drills, so I'd rather see scouting from a game, but nonetheless it is interesting.  I've got a buddy (who's done some scouting) going down to ST the last 2 weeks of March and I'll see if he can get a read on it too.  

One of these days, I'm going to have to talk the wife into vacationing in Florida (in March).

"It takes pitching, hitting and defense. Any two can win. All three make you unbeatable". Joe Garagiola

by MRCARD on Mar 12, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

I have to say...
as much as I love the Strauss chat, I'm really looking forward to see what Mozeliak has to say...I give him props for being willing to face the fan base, or at least a small portion of it...hopefully he'll get a lot of intelligent questions.

Could anyone see WJ doing this is he were still here?

by tbell61 on Mar 12, 2008 12:03 PM EDT reply actions  

I would think...
...that's Ryan's ability to play 3B in addition to 2B and SS would give him a bit of an edge over Mather defensively. Mather hasn't played the infield in a good while; it's not like Duncan filling in at 1B.

I think what happens in the outfield will ultimately determine what happens in the infield. Barton's a lead-off candidate, Juan and Ludwick are righthanded power bats, and Skip is somewhere in between. They keep Barton and Skip, then Mather wins the job, but if Juan somehow makes the roster instead of one of them, then Ryan has the better chance.

by Forsch31 on Mar 12, 2008 12:06 PM EDT reply actions  

I agree with...
everything you said.  Well put.
"It takes pitching, hitting and defense. Any two can win. All three make you unbeatable". Joe Garagiola

by MRCARD on Mar 12, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ryan and Mather
I think right now, Ryan has the upside defensivily with his major league experience at 2, 3 and SS, but I think Mather has more potential all around.  I saw both Mather and Ryan at AAA last year and this spring, and it defitinitely seems that Mather has improved over the off-season.  Personally, I think we need a better 1st base back-up than Duncan, and Mather is that (he played 1st quite a bit at AA last year)...Ryan playing 1st?  I like the guy, but that makes me more than a little nervous.

My vote's for Joe.

by Rhodes Scholar on Mar 12, 2008 12:14 PM EDT reply actions  

In order:
Ryan hands down.  Unless Cesar turns it around he's the best defensive middle infielder we have and we are desperately in need of that commodity. I was also impressed with how he handled third last year.  Mather's got to hit to stay and he's far better off getting more AAA experience and maybe a shot later on.  Frankly I'm still dubious that he's a prospect but he's sure surprising me right now.

Barton over Gonzalez at this point seems like such a no brainer that only a manager who can't trust anyone under thirty could even.....oh yeah that's right.  Unless Barton fails miserably as the spring competition gets better he's just got to stay.

Lohse?  I guess why not at this point?  I've been against any interest in him from the start but geez the price seems to be ridiculously low now and our needs seem to be getting correspondingly ridiculous.  With a one year deal we could feel okay about releasing him later if he wasn't doing the job.

by easy on Mar 12, 2008 12:22 PM EDT reply actions  

The Gameday link is ...
http://mlb.mlb.com/mlb/gameday/y2007/gd.html?2008_03_12_slnmlb_flomlb_1&brand=mlb

for those who are interested.  I figured it out on my fourth attempt ...

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by Cardinals4Ever on Mar 12, 2008 1:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Gameday links
The links are here and they're posted on mlb.com when the game starts here.

by liam on Mar 12, 2008 3:08 PM EDT up reply actions  

Thanks Liam ...
For some reason, I've had trouble in the past getting your sight to come up ... kept getting errors ... seems to be working now though ... thanks again!
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by Cardinals4Ever on Mar 13, 2008 1:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

More on the Ramirez Miss
Yesterday, Hardcore Legend noted that Alexei Ramirez, 27 and a potential SS, has been having a bang up S.T. for the White Sox to the tune of .385 .520 .360.

It was also noted that Houstoncardinal, Hardcore, and Bluesdrummer85 showed the good judgment of recommending that the Cards go after this Cuban free agent while he was available.

Just to pile it on, Keith Law now offers his judgment that Ramirez is "much like Soriano."

Soriano for a million a year.  

Yeah, that probably would have helped.

So says, The Dude

by Titus Pullo on Mar 12, 2008 1:11 PM EDT reply actions  

The live chat?
I can't seem to link into the chat from anywhere?  Has it started?  does anyone else have it?  

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 1:12 PM EDT reply actions  

It started
and Mo's already spinning:

John Mozeliak: We understand the uncertianly in our middle infield, but we truly believe Izturis will make us stronger up the middle and we fully except Kennedy to have a better year.

I'm glad I used the bathroom before I read that.

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 12, 2008 1:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

well...
it'd be hard for kennedy to have a worse year.

seriously though, you kind of have to expect that from the GM.  its poor policy to call out your players publicly.  i didnt expect him to admit izturis is a waste of money.

by dmb60614 on Mar 12, 2008 5:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

it's up now
tech difficulties, they said.

hardcores question has not made it on yet ;)  So far it's all softball stuff.

play skip at second base.

by SleepyCA on Mar 12, 2008 1:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

I see it now.
started late.  mine haven't made it yet either.

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 1:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ha!
If it makes it on there, I'll buy you all some fresh Montana air.

I'm really glad they got the 'Don't Skip the Skip' question in!

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 12, 2008 1:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

kinda makes me wonder
what dues Mather, Haerther, Washington, etc haven't paid.  If I was them I'd get the checkbook out, cuz it would stink to not make the big leagues over something silly like that.

His answer regarding Ryan was illuminating.  Youth means "flexability", so instead we signed iz2.  Glad we cleared that up.

play skip at second base.

by SleepyCA on Mar 12, 2008 1:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

As expected, he seems to be talking
out both sides of his mouth.  I thought he'd be alittle more straightforward but I guess with softball questions he doesn't feel he needs to be.

I liked how he said he'd 'probably spend the rest of the day working on the pitching options'.  If it's that serious, stop the chat and go do it.

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 12, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya, flexability
that must mean the ability to stash someone at AAA or on the bench or something.

A.Rey made it through the first inning unscathed!  I hope that's a good omen!  I'm wearing a flat hat today to help root him on.

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 1:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

Buk's question
about drafting seems too similar to my slotting question for mine to get in.   kinda seemed to answer it though.  i hope he's honest.

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 1:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

Alright, whose question was this?
houstoncardinals?
  • And Aaron Miles? Really? Otherwise, I think everyone respects what you have done so far and everyone wishes you the best.
  • With regard to Miles, he is well respected on this team and gives us great protection at SS/2B. He does have value!
HA!

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 12, 2008 1:44 PM EDT up reply actions  

Brian B...
Came from Brian B...maybe Barden really thought he had a shot this year?  

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 1:48 PM EDT up reply actions  

I saw that too
I think all our Miles bashing is touching a nerve.

Got to respect him for standing by his signings, no mater how crazy we think some are.

"Do what you want to the women and children but leave me alone"-George Carlin

by That's a Winner on Mar 12, 2008 1:53 PM EDT up reply actions  

His second question
covers my other question about who's decision it is regarding Barton.

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 2:00 PM EDT up reply actions  

but he didn't answer
the 'who makes the decision' part of the question.  
I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.

by _pistol_ on Mar 12, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

i would have liked to have seen
A firm, "the buck stops here", statement there.  Since we didn't get one, we have to assume "the buck stops elsewhere".  
play skip at second base.

by SleepyCA on Mar 12, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Or
The Buck stops here...but don't tell Tony.  We just have to make him think it was his idea.

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 12, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

But...
...why should he?

It's one of three answers:

  1. "Tony makes all the decisions. I'm just his little errand boy."
  2. "I make all the decisions. Tony's nuts, but we humor him, anyway. He's good for a laugh."
  3. "We'll congregate to evaluate how to eradicate and magistrate all roster decisions in one big happy brouhaha."
The first two will alternately make him look weak or tick off his manager, while the third (and most likely true) answer will be written off as a softball answer.

by Forsch31 on Mar 12, 2008 2:35 PM EDT up reply actions  

So true
It is a case of "You can't win, no matter what you say."

by cardsgirl95 on Mar 12, 2008 3:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Go kid go.
Reyes had a strong first.  

With Carroll on third, I hope he shows he can pitch outa trouble here.

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 1:41 PM EDT reply actions  

Reyes' Old Tricks
3 SO in 2 innings.
So says, The Dude

by Titus Pullo on Mar 12, 2008 1:42 PM EDT reply actions  

Addition by Subtraction
It's amazing what removing Izturis and Kennedy can do to improve your line-up.
So says, The Dude

by Titus Pullo on Mar 12, 2008 2:01 PM EDT up reply actions  

Especially...
Kennedy's .290 Spring Training AVG vs. Miles batting .200.  That probably helped...

Honestly, I think we complain just to complain sometimes.

"It takes pitching, hitting and defense. Any two can win. All three make you unbeatable". Joe Garagiola

by MRCARD on Mar 12, 2008 2:52 PM EDT up reply actions  

We complain
because we had 26 LOB yesterday and only managed to score 2 runs.
So says, The Dude

by Titus Pullo on Mar 12, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

How was that Kennedy's fault?
He was one of the better players yesterday and drove in a run.
"It takes pitching, hitting and defense. Any two can win. All three make you unbeatable". Joe Garagiola

by MRCARD on Mar 12, 2008 4:02 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ordinarily
Spring stats are worthless, but his spring has him leaping up my fantasy board near the top where he belongs...
With no evidence to the contrary: Colby Rasmus is clutch.

by joker24 on Mar 12, 2008 5:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

Mo's interview
Let's not expect too much.  It's all in the questions allowed and the staging of the interview.  And I'll give Mo a break.  The guy's in a tough position.  I should know.  I've interviewed him (sort of).  Cardinal Nation is listening but so is his boss(es) who ultimately craft the spin that Mo is paid well to verbalize.

You may be interested to know that, in the dark of night, we were recently able to inject Mo with truth serum and got a statement from him that will be released in a VEB diary very soon.

by Hinkster on Mar 12, 2008 2:04 PM EDT reply actions  

impressed
Actually I am impressed with some of the questions that he has been allowed to answer - "why do you never sign high profile pitchers" being the latest that I would not consider a softball.

by cdb on Mar 12, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

Heh
You're famous, Hink.
Bukowski: Mo,

Do you personally read Viva El Birdos? What do you think about the blogosphere and it's effect (or lack of) on the game in general - and yes, we know you're setting a trend with the program you announced...would you ever post on it? Be interviewed for it?

John Mozeliak: I have read it, loved the report card to my parents...that was funny.

by liam on Mar 12, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Think
it was red baron who sent Mo's report card to his parents.  

by cardsgirl95 on Mar 12, 2008 2:37 PM EDT up reply actions  

yes
Red Baron wrote the report card.

by Hinkster on Mar 12, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

and
btw, imho, very well written by RB

by Hinkster on Mar 12, 2008 2:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

Very well written
Agreed. Apologies to tRB for mis-remembering.

by liam on Mar 12, 2008 3:04 PM EDT up reply actions  

Huh.
Well there's something I wasn't expecting to ever see in print.  

I'm glad he liked it, at least.  A little weird to think about, though, I must admit.  

"Hello, Cleveland!"

by the red baron on Mar 12, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Your welcome
I asked that question - so we know he sees what we say.

Also, he dodged the other half.

And he didn't answer my other question:
- What was the reasoning behing Iz2 and Miles?  Not criticizing - just help us understand.

"The Food Channel: Porn for fat people"

by bukowski on Mar 12, 2008 6:05 PM EDT up reply actions  

Too much pressure
Does Reyes know how to pitch with run support?

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 2:05 PM EDT reply actions  

Sure he does
this is usually when he starts throwing 4s up on the board and gets 30 pitch innings.

Based on gameday, though, it appears if Ryan Ludwick would merely move in, they wouldn't be getting hits.

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 12, 2008 2:09 PM EDT up reply actions  

The truth
in your comment made me laugh, even though it hurts!  The truth hurts, not laughing.  

by cardsgirl95 on Mar 12, 2008 2:10 PM EDT up reply actions  

If nothing else...
I'd guess Mo knows how the fan base feels about the pitching staff.   Some of those questions are thinly veiled jabs.

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 2:08 PM EDT reply actions  

yes, i am amazed
by what is getting through.  Softball stuff, no more.

And the red baron gets a nod from the man.  Nice!

play skip at second base.

by SleepyCA on Mar 12, 2008 2:17 PM EDT up reply actions  

Hah! Mo reads VEB
Bukowski: Mo,

Do you personally read Viva El Birdos? What do you think about the blogosphere and it's effect (or lack of) on the game in general - and yes, we know you're setting a trend with the program you announced...would you ever post on it? Be interviewed for it?

John Mozeliak: I have read it, loved the report card to my parents...that was funny.

Miller sucks.

by Ankiels Missing Curveball on Mar 12, 2008 2:16 PM EDT reply actions  

VEB in the chat
Bukowski: Mo,

Do you personally read Viva El Birdos? What do you think about the blogosphere and it's effect (or lack of) on the game in general - and yes, we know you're setting a trend with the program you announced...would you ever post on it? Be interviewed for it?

John Mozeliak: I have read it, loved the report card to my parents...that was funny.

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 12, 2008 2:17 PM EDT reply actions  

Mo reads VEB
 and I quote from the post-

ASK A QUESTION:
In the area below please write your question. Upon selecting the "Send" button your mail will be sent. The host will respond to as many questions as possible during the discussion period.

Your Name:  
Your Email Address:  

Bukowski: Mo,

Do you personally read Viva El Birdos? What do you think about the blogosphere and it's effect (or lack of) on the game in general - and yes, we know you're setting a trend with the program you announced...would you ever post on it? Be interviewed for it?

John Mozeliak: I have read it, loved the report card to my parents...that was funny.

Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. ~George F. Will, Men at Work: The Craft of Baseball, 1990

by RosevilleRedbird on Mar 12, 2008 2:20 PM EDT reply actions  

Sorry HC for being redundant
I laughed my butt off when I read that post-
Baseball, it is said, is only a game. True. And the Grand Canyon is only a hole in Arizona. ~George F. Will, Men at Work: The Craft of Baseball, 1990

by RosevilleRedbird on Mar 12, 2008 2:20 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gotta admit
I am pretty impressed with Mo from this interview.  The willingness to participate, the answering of pointed questions...

Between Sid's call for fan help and Mo's availability through chat, StL really looks progressive.  

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 2:21 PM EDT reply actions  

What's the read on the Barton answers?
He seems to be non-committal to Brian or even what they would do with him should he not make the team.

Is that the read you are getting?

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 12, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

He did
mention that Juan-Gone was signed to a minor league contract therefore he had more flexibility than RuleV Barton.

I hope thats a good sign.

by TICY on Mar 12, 2008 2:25 PM EDT up reply actions  

Ya
that's the questions I am interested in the most.  Seems he's tiptoe'd very carefully around all questions concerning him.

In the question about RH outfielders of the future, he mentioned Mather but never mentioned Barton.

In other questions regarding Juan vs. Barton he just said it's interesting and will be a tough decision.

Very careful there it seems.   I'm a little disappointed (especially in the RH hitting outfielder question), but you really can't expect Mo to say Barton over Juan in the press I guess.

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 2:26 PM EDT up reply actions  

Nope...
Considering that Mo is all about "flexibility," it sounds like Barton has a better chance to stick around because Mo likes what both have done in ST but Juan is the only one who can go to the minors.

This is the quote to which I'm referring:

Q: "Shouldn't Barton's future weigh more than Gonzalez' past?"

A: "Yes! Barton has had a good spring and continues to work hard. He was a Rule V pick so we can't take that lightly. Juan has done everything we have asked, and is signed to minor league contract, so in the end we do have more flexibility with him."

Also, I honestly don't think you can expect the GM of a MLB franchise to publicly commit to a player on a newspaper website chat in spring training.

by Forsch31 on Mar 12, 2008 2:42 PM EDT up reply actions  

That question
I was satisfied with that answer. Sounded to me like  a way of saying Barton wins all ties, while acknowledging that Gonzalez has value.

by liam on Mar 12, 2008 2:47 PM EDT up reply actions  

Gameday
The gameday staff A squad must have switched out for the low-A ball prospects at the end of the 3rd inning.  

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 2:24 PM EDT reply actions  

I'll make an excuse for my boy
and say maybe his endurance is low post flu.  He seemed to start out well.  

by RedbirdRay on Mar 12, 2008 2:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

I'll go one step further
obviously they just had a huge gust of wind that lasted 2 hitters. That weather in Florida is crazy.

by TICY on Mar 12, 2008 2:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

the question is...
will Tony let him go another inning.  according to GameDay, he's only at 35 pitches.
I say - leave him in for he 5th.
I'd rather my sister be a prostitute than my brother a Cub fan.

by _pistol_ on Mar 12, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

pitchcount
isnt right. this is still the C-Squad gameday.

by TICY on Mar 12, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

He's got a lot more than 35 pitches
gameday in spring training only gives 4 pitches for a walk, 3 pitches for a K, and 1 pitch for any ball in play.  
play skip at second base.

by SleepyCA on Mar 12, 2008 2:33 PM EDT up reply actions  

I mean, look at his line
6ks, 6 Hits (2 doubles, 2 HRs).  At times, he looks like he could be a #2 pitcher and others, he looks like Jeff Weaver.

by Hardcore Legend on Mar 12, 2008 2:30 PM EDT up reply actions  

he does still have
a 3:1 K/HR ratio, and hasn't given up a grand slam, yet...
play skip at second base.

by SleepyCA on Mar 12, 2008 2:31 PM EDT up reply actions  

OK Mo
Thanks for giving us a shout out. Here is an encore for ya.

http://www.vivaelbirdos.com/story/2008/1/16/102857/310

Well RB, I think you have a fan.

"Do what you want to the women and children but leave me alone"-George Carlin

by That's a Winner on Mar 12, 2008 2:34 PM EDT reply actions  

Trading for pitching?
In one of Mo's chat responses to the many questions about the rotation today, there was this:

"As we sit here today teams are now looking to move their access pitching and there are still a few pitchers out there of interest. I will continue to explore both markets, based on the last few days we need to add depth."

That was something I didn't really expect him to volunteer--most of the talk about adding pitching depth has surrounded the remaining FA starters (Lohse, Weaver, etc.). Of course, it could be that Mo was shoveling a standard "we're exploring all possiblities" response, but it also makes sense--signing a guy like Lohse now really won't help the rotation that much early in the season, because they still have to get him physically ready. Trading for a guy who already has gone through spring training better meets the Cardinals' immediate needs for depth.

by Forsch31 on Mar 12, 2008 3:07 PM EDT reply actions  

I wouldn't mind
giving a few starts to any of Los Angeles' three candidates for the fifth spot: Estaban Loiza, Chan Ho Park, or Jason Johnson.

Chan Ho's said to be healthy again and could pitch well for Dunc with a nice repertoire built around a heavy sinker.

by liam on Mar 12, 2008 3:51 PM EDT up reply actions  

estaban
i wouldn't mind estaban loiza (sp?) if the price was right.

by mstreeter06 on Mar 12, 2008 4:16 PM EDT up reply actions  

Uhh
Wind blowing out today? 7 jacks through 6 innings. Yikes.

Rough outing for Franklin.

by paCardsFan on Mar 12, 2008 3:14 PM EDT reply actions  

Wind
Hardly windy in Florida!  Game report said wind 9 MPH blowing out to RF.

Heck the wind is listed at 10MPH here in Iowa and it is not windy by any means.

STL pitching just sucks!

by ICbirdfan on Mar 12, 2008 4:13 PM EDT up reply actions  

Same old, same old
Marlins 8 Cards 6, Luis Gonzelez 3 run shot. Is it the wind.

by ridgesee on Mar 12, 2008 3:18 PM EDT reply actions  

There is a possibility
that we have already seen the best of Franklin

by ridgesee on Mar 12, 2008 3:28 PM EDT up reply actions  

Another ugly loss ...
We've given up 74 runs in the last eight games ... and counting ...
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by Cardinals4Ever on Mar 12, 2008 4:06 PM EDT reply actions  

There were some bright spots
Castellanos pitched well again—I'd love to have a submariner in the 'pen.

Glaus and Rasmus both had excellent days.

by liam on Mar 12, 2008 4:40 PM EDT up reply actions  

But the Cardinals
seem to be the only team that can't hit Cardinal pitching. Parsi, Thompson and springer shut out the Card's regulars in yesterday's intra-squad game.

by ridgesee on Mar 12, 2008 5:29 PM EDT up reply actions  

Barton
please, sign this guy and make him a starter. he's outhitting everyone except Pujols!
Ankiel is Jesus

by chicago cards fan on Mar 13, 2008 12:04 AM EDT reply actions  

Duncan's other son
Shelley is a punk.  I realize it was in retaliation for the home plate collision last week (which I don't see a problem with), but going in cleats first is never acceptable IMO.  

It look like Gomes just leveled him.  I have always been a Gomes fan.  I think he's underrated by everyone and most of all by his own team.  I'm an even bigger fan now.  

by RedbirdRay on Mar 13, 2008 7:58 AM EDT reply actions  

Joe Girardi
Joe Girardi is a tool!  He is the one who complained about a Rays player running over his catcher.  I don't give a shit, it's still a game that counts and guys are trying to make rosters.  Girardi should not have bitched about it, even Don Zimmer pretty much told him to shut the fuck up.  He and Zimmer were/are still buds.

Duncan just went in hard.  When you are sliding in hard your cleats tend to be up.  I don't take it as he was trying to cleat the 2B, but he was going in hard for sure.  There is just some bad blood now.  I think that Joe started the whole thing being a tool.

Besides the Yanks are probably going to dominate the Rays this year anyway.  I know the Rays are young and have talent but I don't see them doing anything this year.  Sox & Yankees are going to take the division/wild card.

by ICbirdfan on Mar 13, 2008 10:33 AM EDT up reply actions  

Duncan, etc.
speaking of Duncan, Chris shouldn't make the outfield imho. He hasn't been hitting as well as the other outfielders, and was off and on last season. Don't even get me started on his fielding. I'm not even sure if he should make the major league team this year. Schumaker has won me over, dude is hitting nicely. should be a great leadoff guy... bat Barton second, and have either Ankiel or Glaus in the 4 and 5 slots depending on how their power looks. that signing of lohse is a nice addition I think, maybe not as good as suppan but same type of pitcher.
Ankiel is Jesus

by chicago cards fan on Mar 13, 2008 8:37 PM EDT reply actions  

First base
New to blogs. A dinasaur from Kathmandu. I didn't check everything on this site, but I don't see anyone addressing the issue of who is going to spell El Hombre off at 1B. Phelps was too one dimensional. TLR says Chris should stay in LF. If that is the case, who? Mather is the obvious choice, but it should not be at the expense of Barton, who obviously looks hotter than Gonzo. Solution? Ryan can do everything that Miles can and more. Unload Aaron for a LHP, and Mather is in. Comments?
Brian

by kkkKathmandumountainview on Mar 13, 2008 11:38 PM EDT reply actions  

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