Gibby
http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blackhistory2008/columns/story?page=keri/080221
someone might want to help me with that hyper-link thing
excellent article on Bob Gibson and 1968
the Dal Maxvill story alone is worth the read
Bob was one of my childhood favorites. He just seemed plain old great at the time. Looking back, his numbers are hard to believe. The pitchers were so great that year, MLB stepped in and altered the mound - and baseball. the hitters of that time seemed larger than life......Aaron, Mays, McCovey, Clemente...........yet, they were frequently bested by Gibson, Marichal, Drysdale and others
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by joker24 on Feb 24, 2008 11:48 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
With all due respect
by cardsrul on Feb 24, 2008 2:24 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Clemens historical greatness
by joker24 on Feb 24, 2008 6:43 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Oh, btw...
by cardsrul on Feb 24, 2008 2:31 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
Very Interesting Article
ERA+: 291 vs. 258
K: 284 vs. 268
K/9: 11.78 for Pedro, 7.9 for Gibby
BB: 32(!)vs. 95
These are significant b/c Pedro faced better hitters, pitched roughly 1/2 of his games in Fenway, threw a tigher, juicier ball, had a smaller zone...and yet he still K'ed more in fewer innings than Gibson did. Now, Pedro loses in WHIP and opp. HR, but then again there were more homers hit in the late 90's/early 00's than in the late 60's.
What nails it for me is that Pedro pitched in an environment that set pitchers up to fail, whereas Gibby pitched in one that was so extreme that the league decided to adjust the game to neutralize things a bit. The fact that Pedro turned in the best 5 year run in pitching history in the middle of the biggest offensive bonanza ever is nothing short of astounding.
by redbirdnation8206 on Feb 24, 2008 3:46 PM EST reply actions 0 recs
It's hard to disagree
by giveml on Feb 24, 2008 5:03 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
i want gibby to be better
[I'm too lazy to figuring PA/K this time of night and have to get up arse-early, but that would obviously be a better stat to use. Why B-R doesn't have a column for PA is beyond me.]
caveat that with the fact that the 1968 AL didn't have a DH - AL DH's in 2000 struck out every 5.02 AB's while NL pitchers in 1968 struck out every 2.57 Ab's. They also didn't have lefty specialists or closers in 1968, although interestingly LHB struck out more often against LHP in '68 (4.99 AB/K LHB vs LHP in '00, 4.61 in '68), (4.84 AB/K in '00 9th inning vs 6.2 in '68).
by SleepyCA on Feb 25, 2008 2:37 AM EST up reply actions 0 recs
MISTER Gibson...
I remember going to a game in the '70s with my Dad and a buddy of his from work... Dad had been a catcher in his high-school days, while his buddy had been a pitcher; so they busted each other's chops constantly, while I sat there and kept my mouth shut (laughing on the inside all the while.)
Gibby didn't have his best "stuff" that particular night... the fastball didn't have it's usual crackle, and the slider tended to be in the dirt. But #45 pitched a complete game, stranding a boatload of baserunners, and getting the win.
My Dad's buddy turned to me after the game and said, "Son, that was pitching... Gibby didn't have anything on the ball tonight except his fingers, and he still won!" Dad agreed... great memories!
by The Ol Goaler on Feb 26, 2008 10:50 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
Gibson
I also liked the note in the article that Gibson declined to be interviewed........so like him....most guys his age would jump at a headline...but not Bob
He worked fast, he used chin music on a regular basis, he didn't believe in wasting pitches, he disdained small talk and he did not like fraternizing with the opposition. He walked the walk.
I would say the days he pitched were some of the easist days that manager Red Schoendienst ever worked.
by Hinkster on Feb 26, 2008 11:14 AM EST reply actions 0 recs
+1
by lordsummer on Feb 26, 2008 1:11 PM EST up reply actions 0 recs
Wow, that really brings back memories
by ArkansasTravs on Feb 26, 2008 3:56 PM EST reply actions 0 recs

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