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Taking a look at the upcoming Hall Of Fame elections, I wanted to get an idea of what Jim Rice’s value was, who the similar players to him were, and whether those players are deemed HOF worthy. I used WPA & Win Shares to determine his comparables. I know that there are plenty of detractors for both of these stats, but I think they do a fair evaluation, even at a career level.

Anyway, I took the career numbers for WPA & Win Shares, plus the combination of the 5 best seasons for each. I also counted the seasons that met certain thresholds (+2, +3, +4, +5 for WPA; 20+, 25+, 30+, 35+ for Win Shares). I then narrowed the list to players with similar numbers and also similar types of player (OF-1B-DH). Here is what I came up with (NOTE – because WPA values only go back to 1973 on Fangraphs.com, I included players with careers from basically that point on):

Years WPA Best 2+ 3+ 4+ 5+ 5 Best CWS Best 20+ 25+ 30+ 35+ 5 Best
Rice, Jim 74-89 22.65 6.57 6 3 1 1 18.11 282 36 7 4 1 1 142
Belle, Albert 89-00 26.04 5.36 6 6 4 1 22.16 243 37 6 4 3 1 149
Bonilla, Bobby 86-01 22.44 4.37 5 3 1 0 16.70 267 31 6 3 2 0 136
Canseco, Jose 85-01 26.70 5.76 8 2 2 2 19.15 248 39 4 3 2 1 134
Edmonds, Jim 93-08 30.89 5.85 7 7 2 2 22.25 301 36 8 5 2 1 152
Lynn, Fred 74-90 24.68 5.21 7 4 1 1 18.76 280 34 6 3 2 0 138
Mattingly, Don 82-95 22.84 4.84 5 4 3 0 19.38 263 34 8 5 2 0 148
Puckett, Kirby 84-95 25.60 3.65 9 2 0 0 15.64 281 32 9 5 2 0 145
Williams, Bernie 91-06 23.55 5.05 7 5 2 1 19.89 311 33 8 6 2 0 143
Alou, Moises 90-08 28.58 4.87 6 4 3 0 19.29 284 29 9 2 0 0 121
Beltran, Carlos 98-08 23.07 5.22 6 3 3 2 19.49 253 38 8 6 3 1 157
Burks, Ellis 87-04 23.47 4.22 7 4 2 0 18.23 246 28 6 1 0 0 118
Downing, Brian 73-92 24.98 3.36 8 3 0 0 15.52 298 25 6 2 0 0 117
Galarraga, Andres 85-04 28.74 6.14 9 5 1 1 19.13 251 27 5 3 0 0 120
Gibson, Kirk 79-95 23.45 5.00 7 3 1 1 17.32 218 31 5 2 1 0 121
Griffey, Ken Sr. 73-91 27.66 5.42 5 4 2 1 19.33 259 25 4 2 0 0 114
Joyner, Wally 86-01 23.67 5.13 6 3 1 1 17.36 253 25 6 1 0 0 112
Justice, David 89-02 25.37 4.12 8 4 1 0 17.67 233 29 5 2 0 0 120
Klesko, Ryan 92-07 28.23 5.45 6 4 2 1 19.65 234 31 4 2 1 0 122
Kruk, John 86-95 21.82 4.33 6 3 1 0 17.21 156 25 3 2 0 0 109
Lankford, Ray 90-04 21.35 4.82 4 4 2 0 17.36 227 31 5 3 1 0 129
Murphy, Dale 76-93 29.59 6.31 7 7 5 2 25.26 294 33 7 6 4 0 157
O'Neill, Paul 85-01 22.82 4.32 6 2 1 0 15.59 259 28 4 2 0 0 118
Vaughn, Mo 91-03 21.84 5.15 4 4 1 1 17.61 200 29 4 2 0 0 119
 

Looking at Rice, we can see that he isn’t perceived to have that many tremendous seasons. 1978 was amazing and

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